Template talk:Animecharacters

Kenny

Shouldn't Kenny be placed onder rivals? (AS Dawn's Rival) --Ryguy

NO! He has only one appearance so far. Why are people treating him as Dawn's main rival. Even Nando is way better than this random-looking teen. --Maxim 11:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

He's not her main rival but there's evidence pointing towards him being her secondary rival. You're wrong on J so don't act you know what the writers are thinking. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 17:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Saturn?

Is it okay to put Saturn under 'Antagonists'? Or is it to soon? --'ケンジ'ガール 08:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Third appearance, for sure. I'm wondering, though, if we should put the four teams on the template... TTEchidna^G_SDS! 10:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

It would be less crowded that way. Of course, Jessie and James should still be seperate from TR. --'ケンジ'ガール 10:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Come to think of it, we saw the Aqua/Magma Admins more than the leaders.

As for Team Rocket, on the other hand, there's probably a case for leaving Butch, Cassidy and Giovanni on there. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 18:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Wait... Saturn appeared in DP036, DP060 and when else? --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 18:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we should add him and the other Team Galactic members like Mars, Jupiter and Cyrus. User:Impoleon xy

Moved Nando

I moved Nando up to rivals. If we're includeing Solidad (Who only appeared during the Kanto grand festival) Nando deserves to be up there. He's been in various episodes and both ash and dawn, as well as zoey to some extent seem to veiw him as a freindly rival. Lego3400 18:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Your edit put Nando out of order compared with the others in that category. You put Nando, who debuted in DP004, after Zoey, who debuted seven episodes later. I've went ahead and adjusted it so that Nando comes before Zoey but after Paul, who debuted two episodes earlier. --Shiningpikablu252 18:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, my bad. I couldn't remember who game first. Lego3400 18:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Should he?

Should Reiji be a supporting character?^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 03:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

He's not quite up to this template's standards yet. If we see him after Veilstone, he can be in it. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 03:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I see. Okay.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 03:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Getting a bit big?

I only say this since we get more and more characters every twenty or so episodes. Should it split, or should it stay intact as-is until the end of DP, where we'd reevaluate? TTEchidna 05:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Well I think that it's fine for now, but if we split it, split them into the current 4 sections on the template. --Theryguy512 13:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Tabitha and Shelly

Since we mention Saturn, Jupiter, and Mars, why don't we add Tabitha and Shelly to the template? --ケンジのガール 22:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Go for it!--KukiTalk 22:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I just don't know how it should look. --ケンジのガール 22:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Probably right after Archie--KukiTalk 22:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Professor Ivy

Could someone remove her from the template? She didn't do anything notable to get a place there. Jmath 14:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

*cough*Aoi/Angie*cough*. Jmath 10:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Magikarp Salesman?

Why not? Aura-Knight 02:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

He's more of a gag than anything. He always appears unannounced and for a very short period, and always tries to con someone (usually James). For all we know, he could next appear in DP109, but he could instead next appear in DP209 or even the equivalent of what would be DP309. --Shiningpikablu252 02:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

New version

Category:Navigation templates

Ta-da. - espeonA 03:46, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Remember to take the colon off of the category link when changing the template itself. - espeonA 00:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Category:Navigation templates

Seeing as no one's bothered to update, allow me to submit an alternative, more in line with other bottom-of-the-page templates. — THE TROM — 07:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Category:Navigation templates

My new alternative. - espeonA 03:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

The only problem I have there, EspeonA is that when you have section headers along the left hand side, it seems kind of, well, odd, to have a big white space between that and the text. Just my opinion there. — THE TROM — 03:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, well... I fixed it so that it's aligned to the left, but it isn't too close to the section headers. - espeonA 04:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Cool. Just wondering, what was the reason you broke up the Rivals and Antagonists columns? — THE TROM — 04:17, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It's just because I like things to be balanced, and the other version was a little top-heavy... :P - espeonA 04:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, right. You must have a smaller screen than me; it fits perfectly on mine, and your version leaves a heck of a lot of whitespace on the RHS. — THE TROM — 04:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

The round corners on "protagonists"/"antagonists" etc. seem to be a little...much to me. Anyone else agree? -- evkl _{(need to talk?)} 05:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Karashina

Shouldn't she be in the template now? She had a major role in a episode not including her debut arc. Jmath 14:05, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Which one where? We can add her in a few weeks when her episodes air in the US and she gets a dub name so as not to edit multiple times. TTEchidna 05:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Actually, I just want the template unprotected just to add her name. There isn't anything else to change there. Jmath 05:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Main reason this is protected is because of Flint. TTEchidna 07:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but know we can add her or not? --♪Impoleon xy♪ 14:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 15:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Could someone add it already? J-J-M 11:23, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Piplup and Wobbuffet?

It's on Piplup's page, but not Wobbuffet's. Undoubtedly those two are mascots like Pikachu and Meowth. TTEchidna 00:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Protagonists, Antagonists, Rivals

I think these headers should be linked to various articles,

eg:

Protagonists

Antagonists

Rivals

- Flex__S 18:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Roark a supporting character?

So people. Anyone here think Roark should be added in supporting characters? His trivia does say that he's appeared in more episodes than any other Gym Leader, save for Misty, Brock, and Giovanni. What do you think? Six episodes enough? --ケンジのガール 13:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Even though he appeared in more episodes, he really didn't do much. I think Clair deserves it more since she helped Ash find his badges. J-J-M 16:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Charon and Looker

Now that Charon is established as an active member of Team Galactic, shouldn't he be added on to the template? Looker too - he's played a big part in two episodes already and obviously will appear in more. --The Great Butler 00:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, why not. —darklordtrom 02:36, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Kotone and Kazunari

They should go in "Supporting characters" but I don't know how they will fit. Another row may be needed. --ケンジのガール 18:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

2 supporting characters sections?

IMO, Oak is more important than Jupiter, appearing in far more episodes. Should supporting characters be split into main supporting and lesser supporting? (tentative titles)--immewnitythemew 23:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps, "Recurring characters" and "Supporting characters"? Given that within the individual episodes they all have roughly equivalent status its just that some turn up way more often. One could also make it "Frequently recurring characters". My 2 cents, refunds available.--Beligaronia (talk) 23:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Definitely split, however the "Supporting characters" thingy would be kept, and split into "Recurring" and "minor". My 2 cents. CuboneKing 23:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think a split is required. The table groups everyone into protagonists (Ash's friends), antagonists (people trying to steal from or kill Ash's friends), rivals (people that Ash and his friends fight on a recurring basis), and everyone else. The antagonists and rivals often have arcs dedicated to them. Now, the reason Oak has appeared in more episodes is because he's been around since the very beginning, like Nurse Joy. She appears quite often (or did when I watched the anime), yet is at the same level as Rhonda because they aren't as important to the plot as a whole (important to small aspects, but not the overarching plot). tl;dr? Oak goes with everyone else because even though he's been around since the beginning, he's really only as important as Rhonda, Scott, and Looker. —darklordtrom 01:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Split this mess?

Okay, I think we should break this apart into the four series. Anyone disagree? TTEchidna 05:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

If it's ok I agree.... looks a little bit jumbled Ataro 05:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Good idea; I agree--でんのう ☢ Zえんし 19:45, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit

Again, {{an|Iris}} ----> [[Iris]]--でんのう ☢ Zえんし 19:45, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Paul

Should we move Paul to supporting cast because he's not much of a rival anymore--KayKay|Chat to me! 10:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

It's not much as being a rival now, but being a rival once. Notice Ritchie, who hasn't made an appearance for quite a while, on there. He's still listed as a rival because he was Ash's rival in the Indigo League. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 12:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

As well as Gary, who's retired from being a Pokémon Trainer, and instead decided to pursue a career like his grandpa. ^ht14 13:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Takuto

Please can we add Takuto under rivals? It's only fair to add him, as Tyson appears as well. Kidburla 15:37, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

edit request

Can someone edit the link for Iris to link up to the Iris(anime) page.Just because other important main characters that are also gym leaders in the game has it linking to their anime characters page.LucarioWolf 22:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Shooti --> Shooty

Per the page move I just made (based on the discussion on the talk page), can "Shooti" be changed to "Shooty"?--Ryulong 01:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't we add...

Prof Aragri, she has not made many appearences but like the others, we can pretty much expect her to I think Corn and Pod might end up appearing a few times like all the other familys of main characters Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 22:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Line wrapping

There shouldn't be • when it line wraps. It is currently line wrapping with • for Max, Charon, Solidad, and Shooti. --SnorlaxMonster 06:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Magikarp Salesman

Should he be in Supporting cast? I'm not sure, but I do think Proffesor Seger should be there Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 12:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Palmer

Should we add him? He did appear in two episodes and made cameos in two movies. And after all, he is Barry's father. --神智の超龍「對話」 03:24, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd say he's covered by Frontier Brains. Even so, it is only two episodes, and cameos don't really count. --SnorlaxMonster 10:41, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Improvement?

This template is in wide use, so I'll suggest an upgrade here rather than implement it straight away - just in case you all hate it:

Anime characters

Protagonists Ash Ketchum • Pikachu • Misty • Brock • Tracey Sketchit • May • Max • Dawn • Iris • Cilan Antagonists Jessie • James • Meowth • Giovanni • Butch • Cassidy • Dr. Namba • Professor Sebastian • Giovanni's secretary • Pierce • Dr. Zager • Archie • Shelly • Maxie • Tabitha • J • Cyrus • Saturn • Mars • Jupiter • Charon Rivals Gary • Ritchie • Harrison • Drew • Harley • Morrison • Tyson • Solidad • Paul • Zoey • Nando • Kenny • Barry • Ursula • Conway • Trip • Bianca • Burgundy • Kenyan • Langley Supporting cast Delia • Norman • Caroline • Johanna • Flint • Lola • Forrest • Brock's siblings • Daisy • Violet • Lily • Chili • Cress • Todd Snap • Casey • Liza • Sakura • Macy • Vincent • Reggie • Angie • Lyra • Khoury • Tobias • Luke • Professor Oak • Professor Ivy • Professor Elm • Professor Birch • Professor Rowan • Professor Juniper • Nurse Joy • Officer Jenny • Don George • Lance • Cynthia • Looker • Rhonda • Professor Carolina • Dr. Fennel • Charles Goodshow • Scott • Vivian Meridian • Lilian Meridian • Marian • Raoul Contesta • Mr. Sukizo • Gym Leaders • Elite Four • Frontier Brains • Many temporary characters

—darklordtrom 09:54, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Looking good but kind of too much yellowish (supporting characters, title bar and background, all are yellow which is kind of... you know.) ♫♪エイディニズ♪♫ 09:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I think it's perfect. Ataro 10:00, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't like letting stuff just line wrap where it wants to because you end up with raw • on the ends of the lines. Otherwise, it's great. Thing is, the text in other templates in that style is usually centered rather than left aligned. I previewed it with centered text, and I think it would look a bit better than its current design if you regulated the line wrapping. --SnorlaxMonster 10:41, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I like this but agree with SM. Couldn't we just use line breaks so that wouldn't happen? Or would that not work very well? The centered text is also a good idea. --ケンジのガール 22:13, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, the yellow is a variable setting so we can change the color of the template depending on the theme of the page. I left it unwrapped so that it would all appear the same on smaller screens and bigger screens alike, but I guess we can center and wrap it. —darklordtrom 04:00, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Rivals

I don't think Harrison, Tyson, or Solidad belong in the rivals section. They seem more like supporting characters to me, as unlike actual rivals like Gary ect, they only appeared in an arc of episodes (excluding minor cameos). Vuvuzela2010 Δ 18:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Placing of TRT

Being the characteristics between antagonist and rival, should Team Rocket Trio being placed as a single Team Rocket Trio list? KyleRGiggs 16:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

They're individual characters, I think they should be separate. --Spriteit (talk) 05:49, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Montgomery

Shouldn't Montgomery be in the rivals section? His article does state he is a rival of Stephan. And what about Kotetsu? (The only reason I'm asking this here is to avoid getting reverted.) サトシ101 (talk) 20:21, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Clemont's Dedenne

Can we add Clemont's Dedenne into the protagonist section of the template since it's a walking Pokémon and Bonnie takes care of it. Cinday123 (Talk) 02:47, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Re-evaluating Goh's Cinderace

As of JN082, Goh's Grookey has still not failed to appear in a single episode since its debut and has appeared in 24 episodes straight (the exact same amount of episodes that Scorbunny/Raboot had appeared in prior to it being added as a main character). I don't think that Grookey should be added as a main character right now, but I do think it's worth reconsidering Cinderace's position.

While it did appear in every episode since its debut while it was still a Scorbunny/Raboot, its appearances have gone down by a noticeable amount after evolving into Cinderace.

Excluding flashback/fantasy/image-only appearances and only counting episodes starting with its debut back in JN004, Cinderace has appeared in roughly 80% of episodes, which is significantly below all other Pokémon that were considered main characters (the lowest is Piplup at roughly 92% for DP). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 17:04, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

new template

With the arrival of the new anime, wouldn't it be more productive to create a new one to add the new characters?Hikaru Wazana (talk) 14:51, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Chloe

Please add her as a main character. She deserved it more than Grookey, and the video below proves that she's seen as aan equal to Ash's previous companions.

https://youtu.be/ZccKUMgLRE8 --Marshiyanmisuta (talk) 21:41, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Chloe being grouped up with Ash's friends is nothing new, and Grookey has literally appeared more than she has.

She was absent from over 50% of the Pocket Monsters arc of Journeys, not even counting ATBAPM. Additionally, she was never listed on the site as a main character either. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 22:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Desperately needs a cleanup

This template is the messiest thing on this site. The Horizons characters shouldn't be on here, they have nothing to do with the original series (as of now) and they're thrown into a cluttered list of characters that have nothing to do with them. Imo, make a new template for Horizons. It might even be worth to make new templates for each series, but the Horizons one should definitely be a priority. Here's a quick mock-up for a Horizons characters template, if it helps:

Pokémon Horizons characters
Protagonists Liko • Roy Rising Volt Tacklers Friede • Orla • Murdock • Mollie • Ludlow Explorers Amethio • Zir • Conia Supporting cast Nidothing • Ann

Meanscreen (talk) 20:55, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm all for a completely separate animecharacters template for Horizon characters. The current template could also do with a more organized layout or a template for each series.--ForceFire 10:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

One thing in particular that always bothered me was the antagonists section, especially with how the Team Rocket trio (and Wobbuffet) were grouped together with the other antagonists. Even if they were antagonists, they were also main characters as well, so I feel like the template should reflect this in some manner and not just lump them together with everyone else. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 10:43, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

As for that, Jamal, I think it shouldn't change much in the new season of the anime. The new Trio (Amethio, Zir and Cona) must be main characters of this season too, and I start to think that Friede must also have this role in Horizons.

There's probably a lot that will have to be worked on in the next few days, especially when the plot of the new anime unfolds.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 17:43, 16 April 2023 (UTC)