User talk:FinnishPokéFan92

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User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1 (archived on November 5, 2015)
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User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 3 (archived on January 6, 2023)

Source for the kyerum

There's has been a leaker which has been correct so far during the air of "Aim to Be a Pokémon Master", wasn't sure how they'll show it so I put it as invisible until it's confirmed in the episode.(Here's the link: https://twitter.com/GryphonCool/status/1619602917815889925) (QuickJolteon (talk) 18:35, 29 January 2023 (UTC))

It's an unofficial source, so it'd probably be for the best to not add it at all until the episode has aired. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:44, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Anime Reference

Hello! Hope you're doing well. Regarding my latest edits, I wanted to clarify my point of view on the subject. I think the reference about the anime is clear in Pokémon Yellow (a game heavily inspired by the events of the anime), but unlikely in HG&SS, for as those games have had many other Pokémon added in that area (not just Pidgeotto and Pidgey). Hence, I am not sure if that would be a true reference in the remakes. Gust4vo (talk) 21:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

I understand. Thanks for the explanation. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Ash's Pidgeot

Was it explicitly stated that Pidgeot returned to Ash's ownership? Keep in mind that Ash has reunited with all of his released Pokémon at some point, but only two of them ever returned to his team, even if only for a brief amount of time (Goodra and Naganadel). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 10:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, Ash explicitly asked Pidgeot if it wanted to come with him, and it agreed. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
Whoops, I deleted the bit of it rejoining Ash's team.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 10:48, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
Whoops. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:51, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

JN136

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=JN136&action=history

MarioKero started an editwar obsessed with irrelevant and useless trivia about the latest appearances of certain characters. As you are usually the person who looks at these details, I thought it best to send you this information to the appropriate person.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 22:11, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Or at least refer the right person. I don't known. Hikaru Wazana (talk) 22:13, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
I am indifferent towards this piece of trivia. While it is true, I'm personally fine either way whether it stayed or not. Please turn to an admin to discuss this. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
User_talk:Force_Fire#JN136
I left a message for ForceFire regarding this. This kind of Trivia for me doesn't add anything at all, and for me it's just for some users to try to "show service". There are a ton of pages that are in need of attention and while we keep filling the page with useless Trivia, we will only be delaying the chance of having updated content on Bulbapedia.
Anyway, sorry for the inconvenience.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 15:48, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
No problem caused. Good luck. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Serena in JN147

Why didn't you add Serena to JN147?--PokémonBR 08:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

I know you're asking Finnish and not me but I don't think she appeared, did she?--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 12:05, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
She didn't appear in that episode, as far as I know. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:00, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Ash's Gengar

I invite you to weigh in on the talk page of Ash's Gengar regarding your recent edit warring on that page. My talk page comment went unopposed for just short of 6 months and I then made an edit that was nonetheless a compromise with anyone who might disagree. It is against the Code of Conduct for you to reject the opportunity for conversation and undo good-faith edits without consulting the person you disagree with. --INTERNETFRIEND (talk) 00:40, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Removal

Why did you remove my edit about Ash being ticklish? There is nothing wrong with adding that, it is true and i didn't ask people to remove it for nothing, you know. :-( JewelpetPrincess (talk) 14:45, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

And is totally notable, because i listed how many tickle scenes he has and it's over 25! That is very impressive, you know. JewelpetPrincess (talk) 14:47, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Being ticklish really isn't a unique trait, and with Ash being the main character for the vast majority of the anime, of course he's going to have experienced totally mundane things more than most other characters. Landfish7 15:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
I agree with Landfish. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:04, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
That doesn't mean people won't find it interesting. The Dutch Pokémon wiki does mention Squishy's ticklishness, to name an example, so if that can be added, why not this is well? :-( JewelpetPrincess (talk) 17:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
The Dutch Pokémon wiki and Bulbapedia are two different wikis, we do things differently.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 17:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
-( JewelpetPrincess (talk) 17:56, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Trivia

before the series began i put that Liko's Sprigatito was first grass type starter to be own by a female main character and it got removed but someone else does it and its fine but when I put something similar it get removed twice. both litten and Sprigatito are called the cat pokemon of their type, wouldn't that be notable? do i have to word it differently?- unsigned comment from CuteSylveon42 (talkcontribs)

I removed it because second cases are not as notable as the first, and "cat starter Pokémon" sounds a bit too specific. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Punching Glove

Why did you add that Punching Glove does not stack with Iron Fist (in March)? Game mechanics researchers found that it did back in November. --SnorlaxMonster 02:31, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

My apologies. The source I used (can't remember what anymore) must've been incorrect. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:07, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Raichu

I'm sorry :( RaichuDude98 (talk) 23:10, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

It's okay. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 23:11, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

EP099

I really need to talk about this because it was something that was bothering me.

I have noticed you have been undoing my edits recently for EP099, and I feel the reasons you gave are insufficient and make no sense.

The first one in question is the Australian release unedited. My reason for editing the page is because I felt like the original sounded like the Australian versions were edited like the later Japanese releases. You undid my edit, saying it was mentioned above. I feel like the reasoning given was too vague, and no where does it say the Australian releases were unedited. It wasn't cut, yes, but it never said anything about it being edited.

And the most recent change I made a few days ago is regarding Lorelei's name being changed to Prima. My reasoning for rewording that part is because there was never a source about that, only speculation. I added that 4Kids may not realize that Lorelei already had an English name. But you also undid my edit, suggesting it was only speculation. This didn't make any sense to me because the syllable excuse is just as speculative. I am also questioning why it's wrong to mention anything speculative, but mentioning 4Kids changing her name because of lip flaps as fact without a source is okay?

I know SnorlaxMonster edited the page to match what I was trying to convey (with the same reasoning) and I am perfectly happy with the state of the page now, but I still wasn't happy that you undid my edits as if my reasoning was illegitimate. I didn't want to undo any of your edits, which is why I wanted to talk to you about it as it has bothered me for a while.JyuRaposa (talk) 07:34, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

EP225

Hello! I noticed that you undid my revision for EP225 of the Trivia I added. Are you able to recall a time that a Pokémon does an anime move error that is stated to be an error by someone in-universe? I forgot to mention that it also occurs in the The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon special but on the other hand, the Pokémon that does said error are clearly artificial Pokémon. Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 02:59, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

In addition to that special, there is also a SM episode where a Pokémon's inability to learn a certain move is acknowledged. I figured three exceptions to the rule didn't count as trivia worthy. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:55, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Which Pokémon and move was this again? The only two incidents in the SM anime I can think of is acknowledging Rowlet not being able to use Bullet Seed (which it doesn't use) and Nebby using Supersonic (I'm not sure if anyone mentions that Nebby cannot use Supersonic). I personally believe that Mirage Pokémon special can be not counted considering that the Pokémon in question were artificial and were designed to exactly use those moves. Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 09:13, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I was referring to Rowlet. And the special still counts, as it acknowledges a Pokémon's inability to learn a certain move, regardless of the Pokémon being artificial or not. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:01, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I wouldn't really count the Rowlet one considering that it wasn't like he really used the move but for the Mirage Pokémon special, I'll quickly ask some of the moderators to see what they think. On another note, would it be better to reword the Trivia for AG170? I can see where you are coming from but at the same time, I think AG170 was really the only time Ash's Tauros was part of his active party for anything that isn't battling or tournaments. I count the Orange League as a Championship battle but I do agree that it isn't a tournament and could have been worded better. Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 10:07, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure if there is a wording that wouldn't include too many "excepts". --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:09, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Given that Tauros was used in battle that episode, I find it hard to count it as being part of his active party for anything that isn't battling or tournaments, we briefly saw Kingler in Fire and Ice when it was eating, not being part of a battle.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 10:10, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Recent undoing

Hi Finnish! I noticed you've been quite active with editing some of my recent edits which I appreciate a lot and you're doing a good job! However, I've noticed you have been undoing some very minor edits of mine recently which are mostly just removing the overuse of "then". Are you able to tell me why you are undoing some of my more minor edits? Also, do NOT undo the TCG edits I am doing as I talked to MaverickNate about their structure and I need to fix those ones myself due to an error I made. Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 13:43, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

I've simply felt that the sentence structure is better in those cases when the word "then" is used. For example, here the removal of the word implies that the chamber was already filled with cold air, when it was only filled with cold air afterwards. I can try to replaces those "thens" with other words, though, if you want. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:52, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
That would be quite good if possible! I'm mostly removing "then" in some cases as some pages had as much as 39 instances of "then" being used a lot. The most notable pet peeve is when sentences start with something like "Ash then" or sentences go "Pikachu then uses Thunderbolt only for Raichu to then dodge before then using Iron Tail". I have noticed that your undos haven't been too constructive and that your editing is a lot better when you attempt to reword it yourself, so I would definitely recommend trying to reword things as you have been doing quite well so far today. There are obvious exceptions to when you shouldn't undo but based on your editing, I definitely encourage you to use other words! Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 13:58, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Believe me, I've left many of your edits alone because removing the excessive use of that word is something I wholeheartedly support. It's just that sometimes, I feel the tense of the sentence suffers from the removal of the word. I'll try to work around it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:02, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I had a look at your new revisions and they're looking pretty good! I'm giving you a heads-up that I'm going to edit some of the pages you undid and try to word them better on my end myself. By the time I'm done, hopefully the page is looking a lot better! I definitely feel that you're making a lot better progress when you edit it yourself rather than undo pages, so I wholeheartedly encourage you to try and reword things from here onwards and only use the undo button as a last resort. Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 14:24, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I hope you can understand that I'm not against your edits in general, just that I feel some sentences do work better with "then" being used. PS. You missed some of my edits because my internet thought it was disconnected for a minute for some reason. PPS. You've been editing an impressive amount of pages today, way more than I've edited per day in many years. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:37, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I definitely understand where you are coming from with your edits as some of them have helped with wording and fact-checking. I do agree some sentences do work better but I'm mostly looking out for the sentences that don't work with it being used and so far, your recent edits are coming along quite well! Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 15:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
IMO, some of your "then" removals are unnecessary. The word itself can be useful in many sentences that can be difficult if not impossible to structure in the intended way with other words. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:09, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I've been noting the unnecessary removals and have been more careful with what to remove and what not to remove recently. So far, your edits have been going fine so far but I definitely encourage you to edit out the mistakes rather than undoing as sometimes, it also reverts edits that were correct. I did see your message on your talkpage prior to when you left a new message on mine which is why I have been more careful recently. Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 12:33, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
"Correct" is subjective, and I feel we don't always see eye to eye which "thens" are okay to stay and which aren't. For example, "<character> then <verb>" makes it clear the action they're taking happens after the action from the previous sentence, not simultaneously. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:41, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Misworded what I meant as the use of "then" had nothing to do with what I was trying to say. When I meant correct, I was talking about using the undo button rather than editing a mistake manually. An example would be if someone made two edits being "Pikachu is Yellow" and "Raichu is Blue". The undo button would definitely be an issue as it removes the edit that is correct (Pikachu is Yellow) in the process of removing the wrong edit (Raichu is Blue). As for my edits, I'll be more careful in the future but feel free to message me if there is any frequent incorrect edits. Nikuriku, Bulbapedia and Archives Junior Administrator (talk) 14:44, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Metronome in gen 9

How do you know that moves like double iron bash and sketch can be called by metronome in gen 9? sumwun (talk, contribs) 16:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

If they exist in the game's code, which they do, they can be used via Metronome. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
All unused moves can be called by metronome? None of them are set to be unselectable, like switcheroo or wide guard? sumwun (talk, contribs) 19:06, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
I assumed that if the move has a specific description that it'd be callable by Metronome. My apologies in case that's a false assumption. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
I asked because there's a data dump on Smogon that claims most (if not all) of the unused moves also cannot be called by metronome. sumwun (talk, contribs) 19:14, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Wasn't aware of that. My bad. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:18, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

UK air dates

Hi, I notice you've been rolling back my edits. I have brought this up with staff on Bulbapedia's Discord server and they suggested I log English air dates as available in each episode page. Here's some screenshots: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x6_cqFvGQx2XURW9F5RUCnN8CcAgAnUS?usp=drive_link --Iz Powestri (talk) 10:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

This is something that Finnish probably hasn't seen, in future might I suggest posting something in the edit summary to let people know why you are making this edit.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 10:26, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
I indeed wasn't aware of this, and I still question the notability of this info, but if admins agree on it, go ahead. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Stop it

There is no need to undo stuff for no reason just because you have some vendetta against me. We list who narrates the previews. NoName's edit was properly undone, so don't undo my correction for no reason. Playerking95 (talk) 10:48, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

I didn't undo the edit because it was done by you. I removed it because on HZ001's trivia section, it's mentioned that Nidothing and Quaxly narrate episode previews from this point on. Sure, there was an exception, where more people joined in, but the trivia can be changed to say "in most episodes from this episode onward". In short, I feel it's repetitive to say Nidothing narrates the preview in every episode when the preview narrator is much more consistent than it was with Journeys. Similarly, we do not list Ash as the preview narrator when he did it with every episode up to a certain point. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:16, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Image Resolution

Hey there. I saw you edited the image of Murdock's Alcremie. Well, only the resolution. I thought the site's rule was that images had to be a 1280 x 720 resolution. Has the rule changed? HygorBH (talk) 17:36, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

I can confirm that the rule has indeed changed and the minimum size limit of 1280x720 no longer applies. This was changed a few weeks ago.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 17:43, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Noland's Articuno

I'm sensing a possible edit war on Noland's Articuno regarding images that are being added or removed. To avoid an edit war taking place, could you use the discussion page to suggest which image should be used.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 11:55, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Iris Haxorus

I think that both instances of Iris's Haxorus's gender should be IN the infobox, that's why it is there. Why would only anime be displayed?--Rocket Grunt 16:16, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Because, in this case, anime is the article's primary's subject. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Character is a male like Beauty from pokemon x and y Shes Transgender

She really is a male due to looking like beauty from pokemon x and y not talking about beauty girl were talking about beauty from X and y the character i edited recently has arms like a 22 year old man Riley65655 (talk) 18:50, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

That one random NPC was confirmed to be transgender, yes, but not Rosa. That is pure speculation with no solid evidence. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 18:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
I have posted on your talk page about this and passed it on to more senior admin, I advice you to leave this or you face being blocked Riley.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 18:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Reverted edit

I saw that you reverted my edit about Kitakami. I played more of the game today and saw the dialogue you were referring too. Sorry about that! Thanks for fixing it.- unsigned comment from Lofiguy (talkcontribs)

No problem. :-) --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:41, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Message from the Aurora

Think you can upload images for Emma and maybe find a decent image of Team Rocket's Glalie? Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 06:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

I have tried doing so in the past, but that short is far from easy to find. I don't think I'm the correct person to try to find it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:44, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
I have also tried getting a video for the short but sadly I haven't had much luck either.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 08:51, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Removing info and reverting

Hi, just a general reminder that if you're going to remove content or revert an edit, it's ideal that you leave an explanation in the edit summary. Thanks. Landfish7 11:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I usually do that. I guess I forgot to do so last time because I also edited the page in other ways at the same time. My bad. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:43, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Regarding the trivia on JN147

I'm not sure if you noticed, but Rahl recently changed the numbering for Ash's Pokémon (adding Larvitar and Nebby) and added them to the "Released" section under "Officially owned". As I haven't been as active on Bulbapedia as before, I wasn't sure on whether I missed a new discussion about it or not (since I'm pretty sure the last time it was brought up, it was agreed to leave the numbering alone), so that's why I went with that wording on the trivia for the time being. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 10:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw you talking about it with Rahl. I figured that the wording I used was the least controversial one. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:24, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Creating templates

Would it be ridiculous for you to teach me how to make templates? I would love to learn this from someone as experienced as you! Solemn Mac (talk) 07:24, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Depends on what kind of template you want to make. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
This is going to look ambitious. I wish to make templates that show attributes of moves or sync moves featured in PMEX—just like the blocks in that game's section for Aeroblast! Will there be any issues in creating such templates? One block even takes inspiration from your's about Gladion's Pokémon, so that will facilitate fulfilling this request! Solemn Mac (talk) 18:29, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Sounds too complicated for me. I suggest you ask someone else for help. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Admin are aware of this, two of our admin have been asked to look into helping--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 19:29, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
You're also free to reach out in the Bulbapedia category's #templates-css-tech text channel in the Bulbagarden Discord server, where people familiar with these things can walk you through it. Landfish7 19:38, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
If you'd prefer to keep the discussion on the wiki, feel free to leave a message on my talk page (so we don't clutter up Finnish's talk page, lol). I'm always happy to help improve our Masters content! Storm Aurora (talk) 20:03, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, everyone, for helping out this user on my behalf. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:03, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Wow! FinnishPokéFan92, BigDocFan, Landfish7, and Storm Aurora, I thank ALL of you for your replies! I will come over to Storm Aurora's talk page for now, but I will keep the Bulbapedia category's #templates-css-tech text channel in mind! Solemn Mac (talk) 23:48, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Poke Ball (item) UNITE edit

I went and took a screenshot as proof of standard Poke Balls appearing in UNITE.

File:Unite Poke Ball.png

May I restore my edit to the Poke Ball (item) page? Salmancer (talk) 12:14, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Your text requires some cleanup, but I can add it back. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:46, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Discord

Discord appears to be down, can you access PM's on the forums, we have a video so I can send you images, the forums will have to do for now hopefully--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 00:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Ignore, Discord seems to be back up and running.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 00:22, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Drayton

Just to let you know, Drayton is the only member of the BB Elite Four who has a different team (besides levels) between his first battle and League Club rematch. The only difference is that his Archaludon has Dragon Pulse in the first match, and Draco Meteor in the rematch. I didn't know how to indicate this difference so I just left the page alone. -Minibug (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Ah, my bad. Must've missed that detail, though I did suspect something because you hadn't edited that template. Should this difference be noted above the party instead of usinf the otherwise mostly identical template twice? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Sure, I think that would be fine -Minibug (talk) 17:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Pledging Tree

Why do you think what I submitted was reaching it? The Pledging Tree and the presents are clearly a reference to Christmas. I know some may argue that the episode was going for a Valentine Day/ White Day route with Ash and Serena but the festival itself is in my eyes very Christmas-like and if that passage of text about Pikachu in Christmas lights in JN 94 qualifies as a Christmas mention, why this episode I cited don't? - unsigned comment from Linooario64 (talkcontribs)

Restored. Also, please remember to sign your talk page posts. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 03:13, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. I thought I was already signed, but whatever, I will remember. - unsigned comment from Linooario64 (talkcontribs)

Drayton

Which character does he have a conversation with where he's directly referred to as a former Champion? PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 17:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

I must sadly admit that I don't remember. I suspect it could be one of the Elite Four, but don't quote me on that. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:47, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
It's a conversation the player has with Geeta, if you recommend Drayton to her:
"Ah, yes, Drayton! One of the BB League’s Elite Four, if I am not mistaken. I hear his grandfather is a Gym Leader in the Unova region... And Drayton was the reigning Champion of the BB League until Kieran dethroned him... A Trainer of uncommon talent indeed."
-Minibug (talk) 20:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Yup, that's the one. Thanks, Minibug! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:33, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I didn't select Drayton during that conversation, so that explains it. Thanks guys. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 22:37, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'm glad we could settle this easily. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Iono Edit War

I've noticed that you and Lewtwo seem to be involved in an edit war over Masters images on Iono's page, whilst you are correct in saying these images would belong on Iono's Masters page, rather than reverting their edits. Going forward, could you use the talk pages rather than keep reverting edits or consult with an experienced admin about who is right--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 13:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Indigo vs Blue

The translations for the japanese names of Indigo Disk and Indigo Style Card were discussed in the discord, it was decided to use Indigo rather than Blue. → PikaTepig999 19:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

If that's the case, the Key Items list was not edited accordingly, and the translation I got for the word was "blue". --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi there!

Hi! I have a few things I wanted to discuss regarding your recent edits.

First, I wanted to convey that relatively new kinds of information that we don't normally include in articles, like what was removed in your recent edits, can have value and don't always need to be removed. Yes, info like this can be improved in many ways, but that doesn't diminish its potential value. If possible, it's better to improve the content instead of removing it outright. If you're just not sure you think it has value, you can always talk it out with whoever added it, or on the talk page of the article in question, just to get that other perspective.

Second, regarding your general editing habits, including edits like these ones as well, that it may be important to consider that if you need to make the same edit twice to a page (or even if you just feel the urge to do so), that this may signal the need to discuss the content on the relevant talk page or with the other user(s) involved.

Overall, using the tools the wiki gives us to discuss changes (edit summaries, talk pages, etc.) to best reach resolutions that are most agreeable to everyone, while possibly slowing down the pace of things, generally results in an experience more pleasurable for everyone. I hope you can take these things into consideration in your future editing. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or another staff member. Otherwise, happy editing (and happy new year!) Landfish7 06:10, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Oh and one more thing I'd like to suggest is adding cleanup tags and other notice templates to pages/sections that you feel could use improvement, but may not have the time, energy, or know-how to resolve in the moment, rather than removing the content entirely or reverting it outright. Hope this helps! Landfish7 07:13, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
1) Okay. I'll try to get used to it.
2) I had completely forgotten about that reversion already. Didn't feel it was notable. I consider the situation a problem if a third reversion would be required, at which point I start resorting to talk pages.
3) I am aware of the tools I can use, and I tend to use them whenever I feel it is necessary.
Happy New Year. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Pokemon World Tournament Junior Cup/Gym Leaders

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_World_Tournament&action=edit&undoafter=3897245&undo=3897313

I had forgotten how inconvenient this is.

Two separate competitions.

Yes, my dear, that's exactly why one is called the Junior Cup and the other isn't. Let me explain, "Junior Cup" is a term used for smaller competitions of larger competitions that are generally mostly for children or teenagers (exactly the audience that participated in the Pokémon World Tournament Junior Cup). You can search the term on Google if you prefer.

Furthermore, all the other information I included came from the episodes themselves, Cynthia and Alder participated in the event as part of the team, one in the preparation and dismantling of the event and the other as a commentator. This was said and shown in the episodes themselves.

Cynthia said that the event is open to everyone in the same episode where she met Ash in Unova. I check the information directly from the Japanese episodes. So what exactly is the point of undoing absolutely everything from that edit?

Now I would ask you where it was said that the Tournament that Ash and company participated in Unova is not related to the PWT, but I think that would be too much, right?

Regarding the edit of the Gym Leader page, I have already expressly spoken to an admin that if I can increase a page instead of creating another, I am free. So it would be nice for you to use something other than your personal opinion to undo an almost 2-hour edit of something that was used to try to put more content on the page.

I'm not even going to undo the edits, since the last thing I want is to get into an edit war, but I'm leaving my opinion here.--- unsigned comment from Hikaru Wazana (talkcontribs)

No need to be rude or sarcastic, please. Regarding the PWT, I do not recall anyone during that arc stating out loud that the Junior Cup is directly related to the main tournament in anything but name. As for the Gym Leader edit, I was not aware that you had admin permission for expanding the page to such a degree. At that moment, I just felt that listing all the current Gym Leaders in the anime like that would be excessive. And as far as I'm concerned, edit war does not start until one side makes multiple, repeated reversions. So in case you want to return those edits, go ahead, and I'll edit them in ways that don't involve total reversion. PS. This is just a personal preference, but the page is easier to read for the editor if you leave an empty row between a paragraph and the next section header. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:35, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
The PWT edit has been re-added by an admin, and it looks good. Pardon me for deleting it in the first place. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 23:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

BDSP Waiter VS Sprite

Hello, I think you forgot BDSP Waiter vs sprite. There's only the chibi overworld sprite. I think you battle a Waiter named Gerard at the Battle Tower in BDSP.

I just wanted to say. Andreaette (talk) 07:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Believe me, I've wanted to upload that one too. I didn't forget, I've simply failed to get my hands on the desired sprite. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
...Well, what do you know? Turns out I was finally able to find it. Thank you for the reminder! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello again, I was just curious about why the vs sprite for Waiter hadn't been uploaded. Now I know. I am glad you found it!! Andreaette (talk) 16:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm really happy I found it at last! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Images

Please do not add "official artwork from" to gallery tables when the when the gallery section header is already "artwork".
Please do not change "model" to "VS Model". They aren't a thing that exists, it's just their pose when they begin a battle, using their existing model used throughout every instance in the game. --Lewtwo (talk) 20:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

"Official artwork from" is a thing that's always been present in galleries. It specifies what kind of artwork it is. And "VS model" is a thing that's used to specify the 3D models we see what a Trainer in a 3D Pokémon game is challenged to a battle, to differentiate them from overworld and in-battle models. I feel you're making this a much bigger problem than it actually is. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:20, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- The overworld and in-battle models have been the same since LGPE, therefore, there is no distinction. Currently, the way it reads is as if the model within the battle, when you're "VS" them, is different to how it usually is, which is not true. Calling it "model" simply avoids confusion, and is clear, direct, and to the point. "VS Model" is also a fan-made term that does not actually exist within the context of the series.
- "Official artwork from" is not needed, because the gallery sections have changed since the site began. They now have their own artwork sub-heading, which means we do not need to specify that it is artwork in a table exclusively for artwork. We only do not upload unofficial or fan-made images on anything that isn't a Project Fandom page, which means that we do not need to specify that the artwork is official. --Lewtwo (talk) 20:31, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Additionally, how am I making it a bigger problem than it actually is? I'm just changing your edit, and leaving a message on your talk page. This is standard site practice. --Lewtwo (talk) 20:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Looking at Crispin, I'd say that I don't know how "official" does anything very useful (and at that point, "artwork" also becomes redundant). As far as the model, I think it would be entirely fair to specify that it's the model in their VS pose or battle or something. Y'all can work out something you like, but I don't think it fundamentally has to be just "model". Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:37, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Gambling

Lottery is indeed a form of gambling. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery#:~:text=A%20lottery%20(or%20lotto)%20is,regulation%20of%20lottery%20by%20governments and https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/page/definition-of-a-lottery. Removing the Pokémon Lottery was unnecessary. Just a lurker (talk) 13:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

League Club Room rematches

I explained it in the previous edit summary before you made your edit on the Rematch page, but only Blueberry Academy students are limited to one rematch per day. There's no limit to how many times you can rematch special coaches per day; the only thing is that after battling them, you'll have to spend 600 BP (400 to invite two different coaches, and 200 to invite the initial coach again) to rematch them again. I rematched Nemona/Arven/Penny multiple times yesterday, for example. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 17:22, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Didn't see that one. My bad. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:12, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Edits

Hey, sorry you keep having to fix my edits haha. I'm just still learning what is the best practice and trying to get better as I go. Thanks for your help and hope I'm not creating too much of a hassle for you! (Bananalab (talk) 12:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC))

No problem, I'm happy to help! I'm sure you'll learn everything eventually. I recommend you familiarize yourself with the various link templates the site uses, so you know when to use which. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Masters appearances ordering

Hey, about the Masters appearances sections: it seems like you've got the general hang of it, but I wanted to talk about the ordering of main story areas. When I was originally doing my big reorganization of Masters quotes pages a year ago, I ordered them as PML Arc → Villain Arc → Legendary Adventures, since that was the order that those sections were added to the main story. However, later on, I realized that this organization doesn't entirely make sense, since all Legendary Adventures stories take place before the Villain Arc chronologically, and with the exception of Lurking Shadow, they were all added to Legendary Adventures before the corresponding villain arc chapter. So, I decided to start moving Legendary Adventures quotes above Villain Arc quotes, and I've been ordering the story appearances sections with Legendary Adventures areas above Villain Arc areas.

The reason I mention all this is because I noticed you've made a couple edits where you move Villain Arc areas above Legendary Adventures areas in the story appearances list, and I wanted to make sure we're both on the same page with the intended order instead of just flat reverting your edits. So, with all that said, do you have any reasons why Villain Arc areas should be listed first, or are you okay with leaving legendary event/Legendary Adventures areas above them? Storm Aurora (talk) 22:06, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

I have absolutely no problem with your suggested method of ordering the events. In fact, when I moved a couple Legendary Adventures areas below the Villain Arc areas, I eventually realized they didn't chronologically fit there and moved them back soon after. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Gotcha, gotcha. I saw you hadn't moved it back on Ethan's page, so I was worried it might still be there on others.
As an aside, the __TOC__ line only needs to be included above an anchor if the anchor is above the first section on the page. It's a macro(?) that sets the position of the table of contents, which is automatically put above the first section if the page has four or more sections. The issue I discovered was that if there are anchors above the first section, those anchors brought me to the table of contents instead of the first section. So, by forcing the table of contents to appear above the anchors, the anchors brought me to the first section, as I intended. So that's why it's there, and it doesn't need to be above every section. Storm Aurora (talk) 23:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, Ethan's page was the one page I had forgotten to revert. Thanks for doing it for me.
And thanks. I wasn't sure what the purpose of TOC was. Thank you for clarifying that. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 00:06, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Sorry about the log-in dialogue. I got a hunch it may not count as a story area after adding it, but wasn't sure. Thanks for the confirmation. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 02:43, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

LaRoussean Gallery

Hello! Is there any way you could find pictures of the LaRousse City Pokémon Center and Laboratory? I'd like to have them in the gallery but I have no way of getting high quality images. Thanks! :D --DHP613 22:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't personally have access to means to get those screenshots at the moment. You could try asking BigDocFan if he can help. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:07, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
He says he doesn't have a high quality copy, could you recommend anyone else? --DHP613 22:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
I don't really know. You could try asking help from Bulbagarden Forums or Bulbagarden Discord. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
I don't use Discord but I can try and ask the archives, where would I go for that? --DHP613 23:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Try asking BDF if he knows someone who could help. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 00:00, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Masters EX Summaries

Hi. I asked the opinion of some others after you removed content from an article twice. It is not only acceptable to include a short summary of the page you are directing readers to, but it actually preferred! By removing this content, the section not only became virtually uninformative, but also provided a worse reader experience for those learning about Jessie's Arbok but not knowledgeable about Master EX. The lead-in provided a quick gist of the content that can be found on the hatnote link, far beyond just saying "this exists". It's a pretty bold stance to remove content about Jessie's Arbok from the Jessie's Arbok page, so I will be adding the information back in. If you find that you still wish the content to be removed, feel free to bring the topic up on Bulbapedia:Project Sidegames' talk page, as removing it again would be your third time removing the content, and I don't think starting an edit war would be an effective use of anyone's time. MaverickNate 13:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)