User talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive 5

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I did it again, I still forget about my grammar problems... Sorry. Luigitehplumber (talk) 23:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


While you were inactive for several days recently, I wrote a synopsis for SS010 and completed the incomplete manga description of Pokémon Village. Feel free to check those if you haven't already. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Have you checked either of those yet? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:24, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Not yet. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:26, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
XY133 and XY134's synopsises contain unnecessary and excessive repeated links. I tried to edit the former, but due to a misclick, I accidentally undid all of my unsaved edits there, and really don't feel like doing it again. Could you help? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:32, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Good to have you back after several days of absence. Are you willing to help me in my aforementioned request? Also, may I ask for the reason behind your absence? Real life taking priority, I assume? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Too much happening right now. Won't be able to do what you ask me to do. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Okay. Let's wait until things settle down. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:53, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Removing signatures

Please do not just remove other users' signatures for no reason and replace them with the unsigned template. If the user signed when the comment was submitted (or a trivially short time afterwards), it should remain. --SnorlaxMonster 12:15, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have reason to believe [[::User:DarkDan|DarkDan]] ([[::User talk:DarkDan|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/DarkDan|contribs]]) is manually creating those new signatures, hence why I removed them and replaced them with the unsigned template. Compare the signatures in the last two talk page sections here. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:13, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Even if you suspect that a user might be manually creating signatures, as long as the timestamps are correct they're valid signatures, so you shouldn't remove them. Of course, you seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the user was manually creating signatures because they changed their signature once, rather than the more obvious conclusion that between the two comments they changed their signature.
But again, even if you had suspected that the user was manually creating their signature, replacing every instance of their signature with {{unsigned}} was grossly inappropriate, especially since doing so is not even against the rules (whereas removing their signatures was). The user could easily have interpreted your edits are targeted harassment.
Furthermore, per the talk page policy, please keep discussions on a single page, rather than replying on my talk page. --SnorlaxMonster 11:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


Hey there. I get you're only trying to help, but you should leave issues regarding possible sockpuppetry to staff members. There's no need for you to interrogate the user.--ForceFire 12:25, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Warning etiquette

Hey GrammarFreak. While it is completely fine to warn users for minor offenses in an attempt to get them back on the right track, I please urge you to refresh yourself with our warning policy. Please note per the policy that users shouldn't give out warnings for major offenses, such as sockpuppeting, especially if a staff member has already addressed them. There have been several instances where you have interjected yourself into disciplinary discussions between a user and staff members, which can be deemed inappropriate and overstepping one's authority. It is also unfair and confusing to the user on the receiving end, because there have been instances where you have not been completely correct while trying to enforce rules/policies. Please do not continue to jump in to reprimand users while staff are already addressing a situation. Continuing this behavior could lead to blocks for insubordination. If you have any questions about this, please reach out to myself or another Editorial Board member. Thank you. --Pokemaster97 15:52, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

This is the second instance that I am having to leave a message regarding interjecting yourself into disciplinary discussions between a user and staff member. Force Fire's message was more than adequate, you do not have to step in and attempt to further instruct users on their conduct, as it can come across as rude. This is your last warning on this subject. Thank you. --Pokemaster97 16:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


Lance was still mentioned as the Indigo league champion in the preview of SS012. The trivia mentions he lost his championship somewhere in the middle of the anime, is it right? Please answer quickly!! --Dhiwakar (talk) 14:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about that, Lance was mentioned as the member of the Kanto Elite four by Go in the preview of SS012. Thank you Dhiwakar (talk) 14:21, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Not notable

Why do you say Ash losing his winning streak is not notable? Dhiwakar (talk) 12:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Because you guys didn't make it clear we were talking about a winning streak. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, GrammarFreak01 Dhiwakar (talk) 02:57, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Next time, make it clearer. Context is just as important. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 11:46, 26 February 2020 (UTC)


Permission to make my user page please - unsigned comment from Starfan13 (talkcontribs)

You don't have to ask for permission... GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:09, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Nanny and Pop-pop

I couldn't help but notice your edit history on this page. While it's completely fine to disagree with an edit and question its validity, you undid ii kanji's edit despite her leaving a solid amount of evidence on the talk page and without addressing anything of her points. There's nothing wrong with having your doubts about the evidence of course, but undoing an edit with "I'd beg to disagree" without addressing any of ii kanji's points and not stating why you disagree and/or offering any counterpoints to her evidence is a bit strange. Especially since you were the one requesting evidence from ii kanji in the first place. Without doing so, you're essentially edit warring, something you've been told not to do multiple times in the past. Thank you and I hope you consider this. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 13:56, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Deleted appearances


Noticed your latest edits on Abe, Harper and Sarah's pages. The deleted appearances was because they are main characters and had no major role in the plots of the said episodes including SM145. These should be removed yet again. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

That applies to main characters, though, not recurring ones. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
It did for Anela, Officer Jenny, Professor Oak, Nurse Joy amongst others. The Poke Problem sections are also contentious, they were all omitted from the episode plots as they are a Japanese exclusive section, while this is an English wiki. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
That's because Professor Oak, Nurse Joy, etc., are clearly going to be on the show as long as Ash. Recurring characters who appear in one or two series are exempt. As for Anela, I'll be restoring that content. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Leave it for now, I'll address it with an admin as you've been the only one to restore this since its deletion. The re-added appearance info is hardly important to the characters' development. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, though, I'm not sure what was removed on the Anela article. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:11, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
And characters' development is not what's at stake here. It's a complete record of all their appearances in the anime. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
For Anela the page was listing the many times she was seen in the Hau'oli marketplace, which was quiet a few times. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not seeing any recent diffs that reflect such changes. Unless those removals were made way far back. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
So were the others, plus other users and admins haven't said anything and no one has tried re-adding any of it. Though only now it has been brought into question? PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Because those articles were saved in my inbox, and not Anela's article. My account's apparently very selective in which emails are allowed to come through, otherwise my inbox would be filled with probably tens of thousands of notifications. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:23, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Is it also a coincidence that your order of editing coincides exactly with my past edits?PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:25, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
No. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:26, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
I've asked you to stop this habit many a time as it is deliberate and I don't like it. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Not exactly. At this point, I'm just trying to clear out my inbox. I know you've been editing a lot more articles than what's in my inbox right now, but I'm not going to bother with those. I've also been ignoring all the edits you make to episode articles, because at this point, it's too much of a chore to edit the plot sections. I've only bade my time because I knew you'd freak out like this. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

So you know what would happen, but you went ahead anyway?
All of our edit conflicts have been because you overstepped the mark deliberately, especially tracing my edit pattern immediately after an addition or months later, it makes no difference as it is still calculated and irritating to me and others, who've spoken up. You don't need to have the latest edit on the page, I'm not after that myself, I simply don't want work to be completely re-written and in many cases a synonym change being added. Strive for quality edits, which you have been making like on Ash's Pikachu page which looks great not quantity. My editing quality, which is seemingly part of your issue with me on this site, hasn't been questioned by anyone else. Do not continue this behavior with me anymore PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Leave my edits alone, stop waiting for months to tick by it is still plainly obvious what you are doing. I've told you before, many a time. You keep deleting too much for no good reason. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
You've been told to make quality edits, so stop changing a single word on pages. It isn't required. [[Giban Island], and a heap of other location pages that you've been doing lately. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 10:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

See the answer Hikaru Wazana (talk15:15, 01 April 2020 (UTC)

Misty's outfit

Why is it not notable to be in the trivia? I thought if it was based on her appearance in the anime, it might as well be mentioned on her anime pageTheGreenBeetle (talk) 04:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Could you please respond?!TheGreenBeetle (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about the delay in response. I just feel that trivia belongs somewhere else in another article. Can't recall the name right now, though... GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)


Hey, can you add a trivia about Zangoose's purple claws?--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 11:59, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Short block

After some consideration, I've decided to go with a one day block. While I don't think you've did too much edit warring, and did come to my talk page to discuss an issue, I suggest that you report a user that you feel isn't listening (i.e. continually reverts multiple edits) rather than having to revert their edits again.--ForceFire 16:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


I know I've told you this several times before... I'm gonna keep it simple. Realize when things are "above your paygrade". When staff gives someone a warning, it is not your place to butt in. Leave staff business to staff. If you really have some great worry, you would probably be best advised to go directly to the staff member instead. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


No human character is separated by Kanto / Johto / Hoenn, only for the sagas in which they appear if you doubt ask ForceFire. u_u Hikaru Wazana (talk) 23:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

If you're talking about this discussion, nowhere does Force Fire mention human characters there. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Again: "No HUMAN character is separated by Kanto / Johto / Hoenn, only for the sagas in which they appear if you doubt ask ForceFire".Hikaru Wazana (talk) 23:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
So I'm asking where exactly he said this. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
That's why I said, for you to ask him, but this is already a standard on all pages of characters with more than one saga.Hikaru Wazana (talk) 23:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh, wait. Never mind. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:07, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Enter Pikachu!

Do you consider the Pikachu origin story of the episode to be flashback? I don’t, It doesn’t make sense to call it such. It would be like calling A Family That Battles Together and Cerulean Blues “flashbacks” because they aired after Get the Show on the Road! but partially take place before. I was hoping for at least some concurrence before going to remove it.--KnightGalarie (talk) 03:36, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

The big difference is that you're talking about the airing order for the latter example. That doesn't have any impact on how this wiki presents the anime chronology. If the plot of an individual episode like JN001 is clearly set before the main plot of the overall anime (Ash's journey), then I'd say it's a flashback. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
But where is the flashback? The present time in the narrative is the past. The story starts in the past--KnightGalarie (talk) 03:49, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Then the story returns us to the present (EP001). GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, I would ask Playerking95 about it. They're the one who introduced the whole flashback idea in the first place, and everyone just went with it. But I'm inclined to say the episode's a flashback based on its placement in the anime chronology. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:55, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

JN022 synopsis

I wrote a synopsis for JN022 a few days ago. Have you taken a look at it yet? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:44, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Did you notice the above post? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, been busy. Will check it out when I have the time. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:42, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Understandable. Take your time. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. :) GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Got time now? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
It looks fine. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Just wanted to make sure what you thought of it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome. :) GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

When will i get a user page?

I've been on the wiki for about a month and I just would like to knoow when I get one. Bulbagami (talk) 10:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

When you have contributed enough to the mainspace. You don't gain a userpage from just having account, you need to be a contributing member of the wiki as well. After editing for awhile, you will be able to make your own userpage. Frozen Fennec 12:02, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Not sure why I was asked this. I'm not an admin. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 20:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

"Unexplained coding"

The codes added to "Stomping Tantrum" on various movesets was done to keep the move's name from spilling out into two separate rows, which would kind stretch the template. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh, okay. My bad; I don't know much about coding like that. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:24, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Removing species links

Out of curiosity, why are you going around and removing the Pokémon species links from pages such as here? Surely they'd be useful to the reader?--Spriteit (talk) 13:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I thought it would be redundant given the "Related articles" section below. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
A link at the top of the page being repeated again at the bottom of the page doesn't hurt. It's only redundant if it's repeated in every paragraph, for example.--ForceFire 05:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Oh, okay. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 05:10, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The Meowzie edit summary

I wasn’t actually addressing anything you did directly, I was just using the edit summary to lob the suggestion in the general direction of any other contributor, see if anyone would agree and such--KnightGalarie (talk) 06:39, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh, alright. Your edit came minutes after mine, though, which made me think it was feedback meant for me. I probably wouldn't have thought that had it come hours or a couple of days after. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
I completely understand. That’s why I came to clarify. Waiting wouldn’t have been as effective though. I was looking at the page right then and there because of the edit, and while the edit summary was a general inquiry, the metaphorical beacon would still be in range to reach you first, and we’d look at it, discuss together. Know what I mean?--KnightGalarie (talk) 06:53, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Yep. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:54, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
I was thinking something along the lines of (ie without formatting) “Meowzie was Meowth’s romantic interest/object of affection when he was still living on the streets.”--KnightGalarie (talk) 06:58, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Porygon's Anime Appearances

I recently rewatched the Indigo League episodes (although I may have missed some stuff since then) but I don't believe Porygon was seen at all in either Clefairy Tales or Lights, Camera, Quaction. Is there a screenshot of those episodes that shows the transition? Because on the Bulbapedia page of A Chansey Operation it notes the presence of Porygon but not on the other pages. Therefore I think those appearances of Porygon should be removed. I just thought I'd discuss with you in case you had something to add and also to not start an edit war PokeWizardCali (talk) 05:27, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Your uncertainty indicates no action should be taken--KnightGalarie (talk) 16:47, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Fair enough, so I went back and checked the episodes in question and the Anime Dex. As I suspected, nothing to indicate any appearance of Porygon in these episodes.
Clefairy Tales:
Lights Camera Quaction
Serebii AnimeDex Entry
PokeWizardCali (talk) 17:09, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Please don't post stream links as they violate copyright laws and could land us in trouble. Thank you.--ForceFire 17:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm not really sure who added those in the first place. You may have to consult with an admin, because I wouldn't know anything about it. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:06, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Emma's English VA - unsigned comment from Abbean (talkcontribs)

Not good enough. You need confirmation from the VA herself. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Korrina Mienshao

What did you mean by "not confirmed"?In Korrina's last appearance, she was with Mienfoo, now years later she appears with Mienshao. What is the doubt? I mean, in all situations like this it is already clear to the viewer that it is the same Pokémon. And recurring characters have this rule of marking the changes in the teams in the section, they did it with several, from Casey to Paul.Hikaru Wazana (talk) 21:05, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Did they ever say Mienfoo evolved into Mienshao? For all we know, she caught a different Mienshao and then left Mienfoo at the Gym. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:09, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Based on what?Does she say that in the episode?--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 21:15, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Does she or anyone else also say Mienshao is the same Mienfoo? If it's ambiguous, we should assume they're different Pokémon until we're told otherwise. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:15, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Thats the exact opposite of what should be done. It goes against common sense. It’s more speculative to say that extra things happened than the simple answer.--KnightGalarie (talk) 21:20, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
It's also speculation to say Mienfoo evolved into Mienshao when no one in the episode says that's actually what happened. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:22, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
If we are going to ask this question, we will have to change the page of practically all the recurring characters in the anime.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 21:21, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
...Example...? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:24, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Literally everyone. You can’t say Ash’s Pokémon are definitely the same if there’s the possibility they are killed off and clones between episodes--KnightGalarie (talk) 21:26, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Common sense is not speculation. Not everything has to be spoonfed--KnightGalarie (talk) 21:26, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
We know those are Ash's Pokémon because the anime follows every last step of his journey. We would definitely know if one of his Pokémon was killed off and then replaced by a clone. They would never show that off-screen. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:28, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
You can’t show things off-screen because then they’d be onscreen--KnightGalarie (talk) 21:32, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Gary's Dodrio, Alain's Metagross, Trip's Timburr, Paul's Aggron(I believe that Paul himself has more examples), are some of those that came to mind, but the list is huge. If you start from this principle, you will reach practically all the recurring characters in the anime.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 21:32, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

I've gone to Pokemaster97 about this. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:38, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
If you get an answer from an administrator could you give me a touch? I mean, please.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 21:46, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
You could also join in on the discussion. It's pretty clear at this point there's a disagreement among the community about how to approach this. The more users come forward about these disagreements, the more the staff will talk about what kind of standard the site should use. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:47, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
I guess I should also point out that even Lance's shiny Gyarados in Flash of the Titans! falls under this by the announcer claiming a different backstory means the omission of its actual backstory, breaking it from any confirmation that it’s the same Red Gyarados we saw him catch. This is what makes the required spoonfeeding so ludicrous. The next time Leon’s Charizard appears the argument can be made “It’s not the same, it was just identically trained”--KnightGalarie (talk) 21:51, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Is it the dub that does this or does the different backstory appear in the original Japanese version too? Dubs tend to change up the dialogue and should not be taken with as much face-value, IMO. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
I assumed it was dub-only, but it already existed as a trivia item on the May 29 Bulbabot edit that changed the epicodes, and thus, before the dub release--KnightGalarie (talk) 21:57, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
It appears so. Regarding your example about Leon's Charizard, it all depends on what kind of backstory is given and whether a later backstory given will contradict it. Either way, Pokemaster97 has been made aware of what's happening, and I hope the staff will discuss what to do with these kinds of situations. It's clear that even staff members have differing opinions on how to handle the style for these kinds of occasions, which I think calls for a serious discussion on new rules that would prevent future disputes like this. I do urge you to join the call, since you're the one who brought this issue up in the first place. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 22:07, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Just to add my 2c, those examples of past anime Pokemon were done at a time where we were pretty lax on these things. Nowadays, we're pretty strict and do not allow users to just assume things. The writers could easily think otherwise. Yes, it is speculation to say that they may be different Pokemon, but that's just the safer assumption. And just because I say these things, doesn't give you the right to just remove those examples, those still need some discussion about what to do with those. But for now, because it wasn't stated, Mienshao is not the same Mienfoo from before.--ForceFire 07:25, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

It’s like the concept of inferences is completely lost on people. You can’t dismiss consensus as “speculation”, claim you’re just putting in your “two cents” and then directly swing the outcome in your preferred direction, dismissing inference as “speculation” just because you feel like it. It’s also really weird that the examples from just 4 months ago, and a week and a half in the dub, are considered “laxer times”. It’s almost as if there’s no proper justification for your actions--KnightGalarie (talk) 10:17, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Just gonna repeat some points I made on my talk page. Just because it makes sense, don't make it automatically true. By logic, there would've been Gym Leaders in Gen VII. By logic, there would've been a "Gray Version" in Generation V. By logic, Ash would be travelling around Galar and have a few badges by now. We cannot assume that the writer will do what we think they'll do. They could easily do the exact opposite.
Not sure what examples you're talking about, KnightGalarie. I'm talking about the example Hikaru Wazana gave above. Pages like Gary's Dodrio or Paul's Aggron (and to an extant, May's Venusaur) were done nearly/over a decade ago. That was when things were more lax.
As for Mieshao itself. Lenora has a Lillipup that she used in Ash's battle, then a Herdier in their rematch. The original Japanese version did not state whether they are the same individual, and thus they are treated separately. Basically the same thing here.--ForceFire 12:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
”By that logic, there would’ve been Gym Leaders in Generation VII” Holy false equivalency Batman. You’re once again incorrectly conflating assumption and inference--KnightGalarie (talk) 12:26, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, because everyone (myself included) inferred that because the previous six generations had Gym Leaders, then Generation VII would have Gym Leaders as well. It's why we don't allow users to use common sense, the powers that be might do the exact opposite of what we think they will do (Gym Leaders in every gen, a solitary third version, an Elite Four in every gen, Ash travelling around the region of a specific generation). We'd be the one looking like fools for assuming they'll do what we expect.--ForceFire 12:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
You’re conflating inference and assumption again. These are two different situations.--KnightGalarie (talk) 12:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
In those two examples, people inferred (concluded) that Mienfoo evolved/there'd be gym leaders in Gen VII. It's people concluding that the powers that be will do what they think they'll do. We can't have people making edits thinking they'll know what Game Freak/the anime writers will do based off precedence.--ForceFire 13:09, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Again with the false equivalences. Context matters and you think you’re making a great point by equating a preconception where there is no information with one after the fact where there is information--KnightGalarie (talk) 19:24, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Could you help me with something?

I would like to take advantage and ask you a favor. I wrote the following text to increase the section of Korrina's participation in Journeys...

Korrina attends the Battle Festival in JN025, and reveals she is competing in the World Coronation Series. She takes advantage and introduces herself to Ash's Pokémon, especially Ash's Riolu, who upon seeing Lucario ends up seeing a role model in him. Both decide to have a rematch, Korrina starts using her Mienshao that battles against Ash's Gengar, however exchanges for Lucario during the battle, which ends up getting the better of him. When Dragonite defeats Mienshao, the battle is concentrated between Lucario and Dragonite, where she uses the power of Mega Evolution. After a fierce battle, Dragonite wins. In the end, she apologizes to Riolu for not winning, but the Baby Pokémon is still admired for the power of Korrina's Pokémon. This victory ends up guaranteeing Ash the entry into Super Class. At the end of the Festival, Korrina says goodbye to Ash and Goh promising that they would meet again.

Can you, or can you better help me with formatting and some typos that the text has?I would really appreciate it if you could help me. I was going to do the traditional method, but it was generating some friction, and since you are more "professional" in the written part, I thought you could help me.As I was the one who set up that page, I kind of have a certain jealousy about it, and I wanted to do it the right way. If not, I will understand ... --Hikaru Wazana (talk) 00:35, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

I would've been able to help had the article not been completely edit-locked. Sorry. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:54, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
The page is unlocked for now. If you can, just take a look and tell me if everything is ok, that's enough. Any mistake I modify, myself.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 13:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Okay. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Re: JN027

Hey there. I appreciate that you were trying to focus more on quality of the writing, but it would be better if we are to use the cleanup template than to remove a big chunk of useful, albeit somewhat poorly written, information. It seems like a discouraging approach and besides, we have so many users here. So, if not the user themselves, someone who has a better grasp at it are always welcome to fix the poor writing and formatting. AdilTalk page 13:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Dex Origin

"This card's Pokédex entry comes from Pokémon Y" becomes "This card's Pokédex entry comes from Y". Is this on purpose? Pipefan (talk) 23:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Well, I was just trying to fix the links because there are redirect links. I didn't realize that was also happening. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


According to the manual of style, the only mention of alphabetical order is in the section discussing volume pages--KnightGalarie (talk) 23:43, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Well, I found so many of these articles organizing their manga sections this way. You should ask an admin about that and what the standard should be from here on out. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:45, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex/Structure: This section should be broken down by manga series, divided and listed in alphabetical order.--ForceFire 06:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Welp, there you have it. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Uncalled for behavior

This is unacceptable. I'm telling you that right now. Once a user is permanently banned, you move on. You don't stop to crow. Do not do something like that again. Kai * the Arc Toraph 09:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Gloating to another user that they have been blocked is a violation of the Code of Conduct. You have been blocked for a week due to this unacceptable behaviour. --SnorlaxMonster 12:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Debuts in anime sections

Hello. If you plan on continuing to reword the anime sections of Pokemon articles when you return, could you please leave the sentence mentioning when a Pokemon makes their debut appearance intact or at least mention it if you reword it. Noting which episode a Pokemon makes their debut is rather important.--ForceFire 07:36, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I wasn't sure how extensive our friendly neighborhood sockpuppet KnightGalarie wanted the rewording to be, so I just went for broke and removed everything, including many of the sentences mentioning the debuts. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:33, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


thanks i know for fact Ash is champion of Aloha well we all know it. Be so stupid to say he not. I was curious will he ever mention himself as Champion so silly he hasn't to Goh. Though Lance is champion of kanto but how isn't he elite four and the fifth is champion member - unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)

...Huh...? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:47, 30 July 2020 (UTC)


If a user leaves something that successfully functions as a signature, please don't just replace it with an unsigned template. If the user placed something that could reasonably be a signature after their comment, then it is not unsigned, and it is incorrect to replace their signature with that template. --SnorlaxMonster 09:27, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Seriously, I've warned you about this enough times already. Stop removing perfectly valid signatures and replacing them with {{unsigned}}. It only serves to confuse a user who's already quite confused about how to use signatures. Do not replace a signature with {{unsigned}} again. --SnorlaxMonster 05:00, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Generation link templates on TCG pages

HI there! I wanted to reach out about some of your edits to the TCG pages, where you're moving the template away from the {{g| link template to your own approach with a different template. Because you're doing that to a significant number of changes, please check in with the staff before moving forward. Mass-modifying templates has the effect of establishing a style for Bulbapedia, and we don't make unilateral style decisions like that without discussion.

For your awareness, the staff have been discussing these changes and are planning to move in a different direction (avoiding templates and just using direct links). But we can leverage BulbaBot or other tools to make these changes, and having pages use different templates makes it much more challenging for the bot to do its work. I appreciate what you're trying to do -- and I know that you want your edits to be constructive -- but when you're making large-scale style changes of this nature, please check in with the staff before doing so, so that you avoid stepping on people's toes. Please refrain from making further changes like this in the future. -- evkl (need to talk?) 13:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Adding - this page is a good example of what we're looking to do with the style going forward. I realize that it's a good practice to show an affirmative example of what we're looking for, and sorry that it's taken me a double-edit to do so. -- evkl (need to talk?) 13:41, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

"Were" vs. "Were seen"

Why do you insist on using "was" or "were" over "was seen" or "were seen"? To me personally, it makes the sentence feel clunky. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:53, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Just force of habit following KnightGalarie's radical reforms. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:04, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Should we try to break that force of habit or not? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:31, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure. I personally don't see a problem either way. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:34, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Trivia notability

I noticed that you reverted edits I made to the Trivia sections of a few pages, and I wanted to understand how to think about notability for Trivia points. I had figured that the (seemingly intentional) progression of toe count on the Grookey line was interesting enough to count as trivia. The Bulbapedia:Notability requirements page only mentions the Trivia section in relation to the In other languages section that goes beneath it. What's the right way to think about notability for Trivia? Thanks! –Butterfreeism (talk) 20:31, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

I honestly don't know. I just felt that focusing on toe numbers was too meaningless for it to be considered trivia. You might have to ask Force Fire or another admin about that. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 22:05, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you! Notability is one of the things that is still hard for me to wrap my head around, so I appreciate your sharing your POV with me & cleaning up those meaningless edits. I'll check with the admins to get a better sense of what to think about, too. Thanks again! –Butterfreeism (talk) 18:12, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome. :) GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:48, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Heracross Gender difference

Can you tell me why did you delete the image of female Heracross on its species page? Even if admins have their discussion about how to define gender acknowledgment that doesn't mean this is definitely a female variant and should be presented like on other pages.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 09:36, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

It seems like the discussion is still ongoing, so... GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:17, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Direct links

Thanks for fixing the links. An oversight on my part and I should have been more careful. Much appreciated! AdilTalk page 07:55, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks from me too! Was going to fix them myself, but you did it even without asking! Thanks! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:23, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome as well. :D GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


Hi, can you help me? Can you help me with the formatting and writing of this page?I mean, if there's no problem for you.--Hikaru WazanaUser talk:Hikaru Wazana 21:56, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:08, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

JN034 synopsis

I'm not sure if you were already planning on doing so, but could you check the synopsis I wrote for JN034 a couple days ago? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:41, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Sure, when I have the time. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:42, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
That is all I ask. Thanks! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome. :) GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:51, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Correction to the timeline

It seems I found a continuity error in the timeline. I wanted to fix it myself, but I didn't want to mess it up like I do almost everything.

The error is: the placement of the events of Mewtwo Strikes Back. The trivia section of Make Room for Gloom says the movie takes place before this episode, but the official timeline says that the events of the movie take place before The Evolution Solution.

Think you can clarify which of these is true?


--Baldwin17 (talk) 22:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

This from the trivia section of the first movie itself:
So, it appears the EP068 trivia point is untrue. I've looked at it and it doesn't clarify why, nor does it provide an external source for the information. I will edit the EP068 article now. Thank you for letting me know of the situation. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:14, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Gardevoir is "female"

I noticed on Gallades page that you undid an edit to put female back in to describe Gardevoir. They can be male too, its not a Mothim/Wormadam situation. If you meant it to describe Gardevoirs feminine appearance, that only A) encourages the myth that they are all female, and B) enables stereotypes of feminine = female (and vis versa). I will change it back to remove that word. Pallukun (talk) 19:29, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Official pronunciation of Kyogre

I pronounced it as Key-ogre. I am unsure about the official pronunciation (whether it would be Kai-ogre or Key-ogre) - unsigned comment from AwesomeNuzleaf43 (talkcontribs)

May 2019 reply

re special:diff/2974976

I assume this was a reply to something like special:diff/2974950 from the preceding day?

In that case, I am not actually adding my personal speculation as to the surname, but instead just noting that there are published books from 2000/2003 which made assertions.

The context might've been that JamesCW+JohnW made up the information on their own, or relied on an unofficial source they should not have.

However unofficial / unreliable either book is, I think the only point I make in bringing them up is that it's still HISTORICAL and has some level of notoriety. ty (talk) 05:32, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Manga chapter release dates

Hi. Do we not want release dates for manga chapters? ET03, etc. I couldn't find anything about it in the style guide. Thanks. --Pengi (talk) 08:51, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Not really sure. You didn't do them with some of them, so I thought that was your style. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:02, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I included release dates only for issues/chapters where I knew the release date. (Each issue of Bessatsu CoroCoro Comic Special says when the next issue's on sale date is.) For issues where I didn't include a release date, that's because I didn't know the exact release date. I figured we'd want release dates, the same way we have first broadcast dates for TV episodes. --Pengi (talk) 09:27, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
If there are no objections, I'll revert the edits in a day or two to include the release dates again. Thanks. --Pengi (talk) 15:26, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Okay. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 10:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Why are you deleting my edits?

Ok. You just reverted an edit I did today. And it is not the first time. You also reverted one I made months ago. And you are leaving no summaries. If you are doing it in good faith, can you explain why? Or do I have to take this to the admins? I would normally assume good faith but if you keep this up, I will have to report you to an admin. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 20:31, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and told an admin about this. If you did the reverts in good faith, leave summaries. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 20:40, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I've gone and restored some of the episode entries for Iris, since I didn't read the diff too thoroughly. But I left others out on the basis that they weren't well-developed enough to convince me they would count as major roles, and therefore meet the criteria for inclusion. We have to be very careful on the episode entries that we choose to include on the histories of anime main characters, because if we are indiscriminate, it's only inevitable that they will become lengthy, and unnecessarily so. Episode entries that would count for inclusion are those in which the character in question played an extremely integral role from beginning to end of the episode/arc.
Also, it wouldn't have killed you to at least wait for a response from me first before going to an admin? Smh. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:37, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Why did you delete my edits on the Calyrex page? I added quotes about Calyrex that can be found in the video games, and I think it would be interesting content. Perhaps it could be moved to another section, maybe Trivia, instead of Game Data. In any case could you explain why that content should be deleted? Motwell (talk) 9 November 2020


Why did you undo my edit of Brock's Marshtomp being the first water starter to evolve of a main character? --Feelitstill23 (talk) 18:32, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

I fail to see the notability in that. It's something to be expected from any starter Pokémon owned by a main character. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:05, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


I've been a bit out of the loop, but telling someone Please don't edit until... is not appropriate. Again, you are a peer user; you are not a mod, you don't get to act like you have any sort of power to make other users do anything. I get that you may get frustrated, but you really need to learn your boundaries. Staff is here for a reason. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:51, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Re: Annice Moriarty

I didn't ask you. --Smartorama (talk) 06:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, excuse me. I believe I have a right to participate in talk page discussions if I have something to offer, even if I am not directly involved in the topic at hand. I remembered the permaban notice for African Vulture and what was mentioned in it, so I thought I'd provide the diff to clear any confusion. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Region's names

Before you undo my edit again, talk about it first.--Rocket Grunt 07:59, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Those articles are about the regions themselves, not the resident populations. Denonyms should therefore go into the "Trivia" section. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
There are no articles about "residends of a region", that would be silly. Everything related to the region Kalos can be called Kalosian. Denonym is a part of the name of the region, which is one of the most important, basic fact.--Rocket Grunt 08:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)