Talk:Twerp

Latin American dub

Just if you deem it necessary, here you have some of the translations:

• Twerp (Ash): Bobo
• Twerps: Bobos
• Twerpette: Boba
• (Ash & Ritchie): Bobos gemelos (twin twerps)

--Johans 05:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Also Bobete(s) (a instead of e) (es) (as) are used sometimes :P YukitoOoO 02:19, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Brazilian dub

Here is the Brazilian translation:

• Twerp (Ash): Pirralho
• Twerps: Pirralhos
• Twerpette: Pirralha

Haruka uzumaki 18:46, 4 October 2007

Literal Translation of Jari-boy?

I know Dogasu has one kicking around. It could be added, but I don't know where it is, or what the literal trans was...

Anyway, the pronunciation is similar to Charlie boy, which means stupid also.-Billy4b2004 11:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Italian dub

Twerp in Italian:

• Twerp (Ash): Moccioso
• Twerps: Mocciosi
• Twerpette: Mocciosa, and sometimes Mocciosetta

--Firempoleon 12:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Hindi Dub

Here is the Hindi translation :

• Twerp (Ash Ketchum): Shaytaan.
• Twerp (Brock): Bada Shaytaan
• Twerp (Max): Chotta Shaytaan.
• Twerps: Shaytaanon ki tolee.
• Twerpette: Shaytaan Ladki.

--♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 04:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Lemme guess Shaytaan is a pun on Satan? it just sound alike... if you read it to yourself.--FF(edits•talk) 04:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. It's in hindi.

• Garyplusash 01:24, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

In hindi, satan is called as shaytaan (similar pronounciation ). --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 06:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

In other languages

As we have its translation available in 4 different languages, shouldn't there be a In other languages section in the article? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 07:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, I am adding it. If you feel something fishy in it then feel free to edit it. Thank you. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 13:55, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction no?

"Fans sometimes use the term as "anyone who isn't a member of Team Rocket". But in the anime, Ash is the one true twerp, and all other twerps exist in relation to him. Attila and Hun refer to Jimmy and Marina as twerps (Japanese: hero-boy). Apparently, it seems that any and all young enemies of Team Rocket are referred to as twerps."

Uhh saying that twerps are in relation to Ash and then calling Marina and Jimmy twerps contradict each other right? --+ Joeshie + (is Mæ!) 00:44, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Prof. Oak?

In AG071 (A Six Pack Attack!) one of them (I think it was Jessie) referred to Prof. Oak as "Professor Twerpy". Should this be mentioned? Nikki 12:41, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

Should it be mentioned that the term twerp is also used in The Fairly Oddparents? Wildgoose-The friendly goose in town! 23:32, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Filipino dub

Not sure if needed, but anyway:

twerp: bubwit

twerps: mga bubwit

I am sure of the first but the latter is some educated guess. I never heard of the Filipino dub for twerpette, so it means its a blank for now. Harv13 (talk page) 07:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

XY series

I heard that Team Rocket calls Serena and Bonnie "twerp thieves" in Mega-Mega Meowth Madness!, can someone add this or not? --Cinday123 (Talk) 04:46, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

The Pokémon

I hear that Team Rocket call Pikachu and the heroes' Pokémon twerps as well. Or referring them as "Twerp Pokémon". Doesn't this have to be added?--Jay 21 (Talk) 13:45, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Deletion/Notability?

Is this really notable? I just don't think the concept of a "twerp" is special enough in the Pokemon world/anime to deserve a whole page here.

"Twerp" really doesn't need any sort of explaining to be understood. This whole page is really just a very basic concept that can easily be conveyed on the Team Rocket trio page if it needs saying anywhere. And the painstaking detailing of everyone who's been called a "twerp" seems much more like trivia than really worthwhile material to me, but if need be, it could probably also be squeezed onto the Team Rocket trio page or else added as trivia to character pages (such as, "Meowth referred to Zoey as the red-haired twerp").

This just isn't a thing that deserves its own page IMO. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:03, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

I agree with deleting this page. A quarter of the article is an explanation of a not-too-difficult word, and the other three quarters could easily be put onto the associated characters' trivia sections. Litwick96 (talk) 16:24, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't think this page should be deleted. It is only a small page but I have used it several times. - unsigned comment from Critic (talk • contribs)

For what? We may well be able to fulfill the same sort of uses you found in this page on a different page, if you can explain better. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:24, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

The article does not meet the notability requirements. And Tiddlywinks, why did you sign a comment that's not yours? サトミュウ (SatoMew) 21:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Oh, woops. =P Mistype or whatever. I totally meant to add the unsigned template... Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

I think this page should not be deleted. It may seem minor, but I do think it's rather important. "I'm a gaming duck with a very low attenti- OH LOOK A PENNY!" -OdieboyDuck (talk) 14:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't think it should deleted, too. Maybe it's a far-fetched idea, but look at this situation: What if someone was watching pokemon anime, and he has the level of Basic English, and he want to know about the word Twerp and he thinks: hmm, maybe its another name of Ash or something, and he looks on bulbapedia in search, he'll find this, and otherwise not. P.S.And then, where do we have to put all the textboxes, it was such a great work? Lokki (talk) 10 November 2015 14:06:05 (UTC)

Bulbapedia's purpose is not an ESL site... That cannot be the only reason to keep it.

As I mentioned above, if this does need coverage, the Team Rocket trio page is probably the best place for it; and then this page could redirect to that page/section if you want. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:31, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Woah Woah, guys! this isn't the way to settle deletions! let's give it a good, fair vote. PearlSilver (talk) 01:40, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

What's not, exactly? Discussion? Because...it is. (For that matter, your new "Comments" section below is every bit equivalent to this discussion.)

At any rate, discussion is functionally equivalent to a vote anyway if you just read and pick out people's opinions. An explicit "vote" like you set up below isn't really a bad thing, but it's not at all necessary either.

And in the end, all the votes and discussion in the world won't necessarily "settle" anything either; ultimately, the final say is up to staff/the Editorial Board. And that being the case, discussion/"comment" is going to be a bit more valuable as input than wordless votes. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:02, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

uh... what? i'm sorry, you've lost me there. do you mean... remove that vote section? because i Can do that, if you want. but um... i don't see why. i mean, just comments can sometimes make it hard to tell what they're equivilant of voting is for in my experience... did i make sense? because it sounds a bit confusing as i read it again. PearlSilver (talk) 02:10, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

You said this isn't the way to settle deletions, implying there was something wrong about this thus far. And since you added an explicit vote tally, it looked like you meant that this sort of issue must have something like that; and I just wanted to say, no, that's not "required". (And no, I'm not saying you have to remove it.) But now you've clearly explained that your problem was that you consider a discussion alone hard to equate to votes. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:29, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Why did you delete my vote? Or wasn't it where I must have placed it? Lokki (talk) 08:44, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

What are you talking about? i don't remember anything like that! PearlSilver (talk)

It was Glik, he deleted my vote of 'keep'. In history sais (Reverted edits by Lokki (talk) to last revision by Tiddlywinks), so I wanted to know why. - unsigned comment from Lokki (talk • contribs)

I didn't know what a twerp was until I got here. There are many other pages that should probably get deleted before this one does, So I want to keep it. --PipProductionCo (talk) 07:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, "twerp" can always be defined elsewhere still. It's not required that *this page* exist to explain that—it's not that complicated or special. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:32, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Elsewhere where? I clicked twerp, got the definition- isn't that what a wiki is for? I'm all for keeping at least the first paragraph, having only seen the dub. I didn't know about the phrase 'jari' or its meanings and variations. It's a cultural note that isn't obvious to non-Japanese; I've been wondering for years why two adults are calling a group of kids by such an immature name. LeilaDaegil (talk) 22:06, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

The easiest answer is somewhere on the Team Rocket trio page. Something to the effect of "Team Rocket almost always refer to Ash [and/or his friends] as a twerp". And I don't see how 'jari' is particularly useful, or any special "cultural note" or anything...

Most of the places on this wiki that link to Twerp seem to be using it like an alternate to {{Ashfr}} anyway, which is kind of...pointless to put it nicely I guess. And it's just a bit ridiculous that Twerp manages never to be linked on the TRT page and is only linked in a Yellow quote on Jessie/James' pages. All of this doesn't really scream "notable" if you ask me. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

I believe that if this gets deleted, at least the In other languages section should stay somewhere, maybe hidden beneath a description of the word "twerp" on the TRio's page or something (and only the "twerps" translation, the "twerp" and "twerpette" sections seem pointless). That said, I think we really need a page for anime running gags so we could accomodate all these kind of things. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

I wouldn't delete it, but if it is deleted I really agree with the idea to have a running gags page and of course include it there. - unsigned comment from Sc190191 (talk • contribs)

When is decision going to be made? I think keepHorton Hears a murder (talk) 18:35, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Please be patient. The staff will decide when they decide. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

It very detailed, it sham to get ridHorton Hears a murder (talk) 18:42, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

It's a highly notable insult used by Team Rocket all the time to refer to their enemies in general and to Ash and his friends in particular. It should stay.--Arisboch (talk) 05:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

• Delete: Absolutely pointless and serves no real purpose; "twerp" only deserves a subsection in Team Rocket Trio at most. If insults and nicknames deserve their own articles, then let's make an article for Deedee (a running joke name among Dawn's childhood friends) too. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 11:40, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Delete

PearlSilver (talk)

• Embarrassing and unencyclopedic article at best. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 11:40, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
• Sperg (talk) - This article is just a stub with a ton of trivia. Should be moved over to the team rocket page. Please. Sperg (talk) 23:16, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Keep

• PipProductionCo (talk) 07:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
• Lokki (talk) 14:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
• Twerp is not a bad page but it is a very good page. - unsigned comment from Erica124 (talk • contribs)
• I want page to sta it goodHorton Hears a murder (talk) 17:24, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
• PannenkoekenNL (talk) 11:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
• --Arisboch (talk) 05:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
• Unowninator (talk) 06:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC) I see no reason to delete it.
• GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:49, 19 May 2017 (UTC) Very prevalent in the anime series.
• Alexboii2 (talk) 09:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC) It's nicknames! Why delete it?
• Of course it should stay. It's a fun collection of all the different variations of the word they've given Ash, his friends and his rivals. It's not doing any harm. - unsigned comment from ShadowZone1996 (talk • contribs)
• This article can serve an educational purpose.Mega Linoone (talk) 20:22, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
• Given the more recent SM ending Twerp, Twerpette; this page is fine to keep here. Frozen Fennec 12:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
• I think it should remain, the term is used a great deal in the anime. This encyclopedia should cover this.MeItan (talk) 14:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
• As I mentioned before, the term "twerp" has been around since the days of the Indigo League anime; I think this should stay. IM-T-MAN2 (talk) 17:27, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Comments

How long is this going to last, exactly? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

The staff will make a decision whenever they get around to it. In the meantime, this whole vote debacle is just a bunch of users misunderstanding protocol. Decisions like this aren't made by democracy; they're decided by the staff. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:31, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Danish Dub

I know there is no Danish Pokémon wiki united with Encyclopædiæ, but but i do live in Denmark and watch Pokémon in danish dub, and they call Ash "Rolling" and they call the group "Rollinger." So is it okay to edit/add it? Nicelai23 (talk) 11:35, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes of course you may. If you happen to know what they call the female companion, please add that as well. --Raltseye prata med mej 17:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

100% should be removed

I find this page pretty useless, because "Twerp" has nothing to do with pokemon, Jessie, James, and Meowth just happen to call Red (Ash in the anime) and his friends "Twerps". Any admins who see this, please remove this page.. This is just my opinion, though. Itsanicesunnyday (talk) 21:59, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Considering the new ending song Twerp, Twerpette of the SM anime I think it is actually worth having a page on this. --CiaobyDany (talk) 21:40, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. It's become a pretty prevalent terminology in the anime, way too prevalent to ignore. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 23:30, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with these guys. Twerp has stuck around for a very long time, as far back as the days of the Season 1 (Indigo League) anime.IM-T-MAN2 (talk) 09:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I believe the page should stay. The term is a big part of Team Rocket's overall persona. TheFatPanda (talk) 17:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Keep, agree with above. Qzekrom (talk) 04:34, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

I agree with the rest above. there are multiple variations of twerp that are used, not ot mention it has been used not just as an insult towards Ash and the others, such as when Team Rocket and Ash, Iris and Cilan were together in the Litwick episode.

If this was just a one-off term or else very occasional term then I could see your point, but through my binging of the anime series to catch up I have noticed it as an extremely frequent term that is almost as much a staple for the rocket trio as the mottos are.

African Vulture (talk) 03:05, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Indeed, this is a very prevalent term and therefore it is notable. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 04:35, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

not always an insult

In the later episodes of the 14th season Pokemon Black & White, when Meowth temporarily joins Ash and his Unova companions, he still refers to Ash and the crew as twerps. Could this mean that the term is not always meant as an insult? I can't remember the exact episode number but it is near the end of the 14th season where Meowth is with Ash, Iris and Cilan to lead them on right before the subway arc. African Vulture (talk) 04:56, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I guess the article can briefly mention Team Rocket occasionally uses it as an endearing term for Ash and his friends, inadvertently or otherwise. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 04:58, 30 December 2019 (UTC)