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::::::True, but the same area/region is given the name of Orange Islands in the subtitle of the second season - [[Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands]]. It can potentially be said that the name was changed when the subtitle was added to the season. (The GS Ball plot began in EP081 according to the same article.) | ::::::True, but the same area/region is given the name of Orange Islands in the subtitle of the second season - [[Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands]]. It can potentially be said that the name was changed when the subtitle was added to the season. (The GS Ball plot began in EP081 according to the same article.) | ||
:::::::Jo the Marten, I don't think that your personal speculations should have any impact on this decision. It has, as far as I know, never been said that the region is bigger than the islands and there will probably never be any confirmation to that since Orange Islands was a filler season that will probably never be visited again. --[[User:PokeAwesome94|PokeAwesome94]] ([[User talk:PokeAwesome94|talk]]) 10:04, 20 October 2012 (UTC) | :::::::Jo the Marten, I don't think that your personal speculations should have any impact on this decision. It has, as far as I know, never been said that the region is bigger than the islands and there will probably never be any confirmation to that since Orange Islands was a filler season that will probably never be visited again. --[[User:PokeAwesome94|PokeAwesome94]] ([[User talk:PokeAwesome94|talk]]) 10:04, 20 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
::::::::Regardless, it is still called the Orange Archipelago, and I see no reason why it needs to be changed. Not to mention our anime head, {{u|Kenji-girl}} has [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Orange_Archipelago&diff=830521&oldid=830518 already moved this article from Orange Islands before in the past]. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 11:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Official Orange Islands, Sevii Islands and New Island map == | == Official Orange Islands, Sevii Islands and New Island map == |
Revision as of 11:35, 20 October 2012
Image
The current image for this page is non-canon as it does not include the Sevii islands. is there a piture out there suitable? - unsigned comment from AlphApe (talk • contribs)
- Your suggestion that the Sevii Islands are part of the Orange Archipelago is non-canon as the Orange Islands are never even alluded to in any game.
- Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). 梅子❄❅ 22:14, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
But the Sevii Islands are in the anime, however --Constantine 22:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- While that may be true, the Orange Islands are not part of the game and the Sevii Islands are not part of the Orange Islands. That map is actually from a pre-Sevii book. —darklordtrom 05:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Island sorting
Islands
All the islands, in order of episode:
- Valencia Island (EP083)
- Tangelo Island (EP084)
- Mikan Island (EP085)
- Mandarin Island North (EP086)
- Sunburst Island (EP087)
- Pinkan Island (EP088)
- Unnamed Island (EP089)
- Kinnow Island (EP091)
- Unnamed Island (EP092)
- Navel Island (EP093)
- Grapefruit Islands (EP094)
- Moro Island (EP095)
- Golden Island (EP096)
- Murcott Island (EP097)
- Unnamed Island (EP098)
- Mandarin Island South (EP099 - EP102)
- Trovita Island (EP103)
- Fairchild Island (EP104)
- Shamouti Island (M02)
- Fire Island (M02)
- Lightning Island (M02)
- Ice Island (M02)
- Unnamed Island (PK04)
- Cleopatra Island (EP105)
- Ascorbia Island (EP106)
- Butwal Island (EP107)
- Kumquat Island (EP108)
- Rind Island (EP109)
- Unnamed Island (EP110)
- Pummelo Island (EP111, EP112)
- Tarroco Island (EP113)
- Hamlin Island (EP114)
I think the order would work better this way. You can see Ash and co.'s route here! -Abcboy (talk) 00:58, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Why Archipelago?
Even the main map uses Islands, and so does practically everything else. Why do we call it "Orange Archipelago" instead of "Orange Islands"? --Abcboy (talk) 02:08, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- Taking a quick search around the internet seems to show that it was just to be formal. The template for locations does use "Orange Islands" at the moment. I would say that unless the anime or the manga, The Electric Tale of Pikachu call it the Orange Archipelago it would be alright to change it. Super goku (talk) 07:33, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- I support the name change since "Orange Islands" is more common. Sorry for butting in. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 13:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- I would not say that it is butting in since this is a public discussion. In any case, should we tag the article for potential moving or should we wait a bit more time for some more comments? --Super goku (talk) 06:14, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- Either way is fine with me, if you feel like waiting for more comments you could maybe wait until October 27th. That way a month will have passed and most people who want to have a say in this will have gotten a fair chance. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 09:53, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- Except Orange Archipelago is the name given to the "region" in the actual anime canon. I don't recall which episode exactly, but likely when Oak assigns Ash to travel there to get the GS Ball. The area could be bigger than just the islands. (Think of it like Oceania and the Pacific Islands.) That's just my theory any way. This isn't a name we just made up, it was a name used in the show. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 10:08, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- True, but the same area/region is given the name of Orange Islands in the subtitle of the second season - Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands. It can potentially be said that the name was changed when the subtitle was added to the season. (The GS Ball plot began in EP081 according to the same article.)
- Jo the Marten, I don't think that your personal speculations should have any impact on this decision. It has, as far as I know, never been said that the region is bigger than the islands and there will probably never be any confirmation to that since Orange Islands was a filler season that will probably never be visited again. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 10:04, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Regardless, it is still called the Orange Archipelago, and I see no reason why it needs to be changed. Not to mention our anime head, Kenji-girl has already moved this article from Orange Islands before in the past. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 11:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Jo the Marten, I don't think that your personal speculations should have any impact on this decision. It has, as far as I know, never been said that the region is bigger than the islands and there will probably never be any confirmation to that since Orange Islands was a filler season that will probably never be visited again. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 10:04, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- True, but the same area/region is given the name of Orange Islands in the subtitle of the second season - Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands. It can potentially be said that the name was changed when the subtitle was added to the season. (The GS Ball plot began in EP081 according to the same article.)
- Except Orange Archipelago is the name given to the "region" in the actual anime canon. I don't recall which episode exactly, but likely when Oak assigns Ash to travel there to get the GS Ball. The area could be bigger than just the islands. (Think of it like Oceania and the Pacific Islands.) That's just my theory any way. This isn't a name we just made up, it was a name used in the show. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 10:08, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- Either way is fine with me, if you feel like waiting for more comments you could maybe wait until October 27th. That way a month will have passed and most people who want to have a say in this will have gotten a fair chance. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 09:53, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- I would not say that it is butting in since this is a public discussion. In any case, should we tag the article for potential moving or should we wait a bit more time for some more comments? --Super goku (talk) 06:14, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- I support the name change since "Orange Islands" is more common. Sorry for butting in. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 13:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Official Orange Islands, Sevii Islands and New Island map
I found this official map with the Sevii Islands, New Island and the Orange Islands. It's part of File:RegionsMoviesMap.jpg, which is an anime map of all the movie locations up to the 10th movie.
I don't have the access to it to Bulbagarden Archives and I also lack the knowledge to add it to the Orange Archipelago article and I wonder if someone who reads this could do it for me.
Here's the map: [1] --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- If needed I can crop it so that it only shows The Orange Islands. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 21:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Crop it out, save it on an online image hosting website, and ask an admin to upload. How are you going to remove the labels? --Abcboy (talk) 21:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think it's possible to remove the labels and make it look good. If the labels would just have overlaped the ocean I could have tried cloning nearby pixels, but I can't foresee and redraw the design of the islands behind the labels. Here's the cropped version. If anyone uploads this, please tell me afterwards, so that I can remove it from Google Drive. If anyone thinks that they can fix the map better than I did, feel free to try. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 13:07, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Can't see it... gives 403. Is it public? --Abcboy (talk) 20:33, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's public, but it seems that the links that only display images expire after a while on Google Drive. I'll have to link to the directory page. I've made two versions of the image use whichever you find more fitting: 1 & 2 --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 18:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Can't see it... gives 403. Is it public? --Abcboy (talk) 20:33, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think it's possible to remove the labels and make it look good. If the labels would just have overlaped the ocean I could have tried cloning nearby pixels, but I can't foresee and redraw the design of the islands behind the labels. Here's the cropped version. If anyone uploads this, please tell me afterwards, so that I can remove it from Google Drive. If anyone thinks that they can fix the map better than I did, feel free to try. --PokeAwesome94 (talk) 13:07, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Crop it out, save it on an online image hosting website, and ask an admin to upload. How are you going to remove the labels? --Abcboy (talk) 21:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)