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Linking to categories

You can link to Categories without putting the page into the category by putting a colon before "Category". Example: [[:Category:______]] And just so it's up there, you can also link to files by using [[:a:File:____.___]] Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:53, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I should have know that before I linked it, but did not. I will admit that I did find it on Wikicode#Linking, but at that time I had already made my second edit in a row. (I follow a rule of two so that I do not get an edit warning, unless an edit has somehow badly broken something.) In any case, thank you for letting me know about that since it will help me to remember in the future. (Off topic) Sorry if I am butting into your talk with Mikoro. I wanted to let them know that they can find articles that need to be improved instead of complaining about the loss of userspace privileges since I think that they can improve. One other thing I wanted to ask you was why is Mikoro's timestamp off by a few hours? It is listed as UTC time, but is EST instead. Could you look into it? In any case, thank you for reading this. --Super goku (talk) 03:58, 21 October 2012 (UTC)


Super goku, I have looked at the list you sent me on my talk page and I have fixed Exploud and Clear!'s synopsis. For future edits I make, I will notify you. Are you an administrator? Do you have rights to reinstate someone's userspace rights? Mikoro 9:49, 23 October 12 (UTC)

Hello, Mikoro. I would like to say that you do not need to notify me of any changes that you make since if I wanted to look I could just use Special:Contributions/Mikoro. If you would like to you can do it to me or anyone else on the wiki by placing the name of the user in the url. In addition, the recent changes page will list a link to it it between the link to the user's talk page and the edit summary of a user who makes an edit.* As for the second question, I will say that I am not an administrator or any position on the staff. If you would like to find out who is on staff, then I would suggest you head to the Staff page. Several pages on the Navigation bar to the left include a link to the staff page if you would like to find it later. To be a bit informal, I would like to point out that the only page I have on the Userspace is a personal sandbox. Otherwise, I have nothing in the userspace which is why the username in my signature is red. In my opinion, the only purpose for the userspace is for people to post some infomation on themselves and to improve articles. However, that is not the only use and other users will have differing opinions as to the Userspace. So then, let me ask you a question or two that you can choose to answer or not. What is it that you want to create on the Userspace and why do you want to do so? I am a curious person and would like to understand your reasons. --Super goku (talk) 00:47, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
I want to create my userpage plus a ton of other pages that will be linked on my userpage. I want to do this because I have just experienced all the other awesome pages that people have, and I want one. But because someone had to block my creating rights, I will not be able to do so until I prove myself "worthy of being a professional Bulbapedia contributor". And did you look at the new synopsis for Exploud and Clear!? Mikoro 9:00, 24 October 12 (UTC)
To start with I have seen the synopsis for AG066. I will say that it did look nice. Besides the two edits I would say that the only issues were minor such as links and a bit of grammar. (Note: You can edit the whole article by clicking on the edit button at the top of a page.) As for your userspace issue I would like you direct you to both the Bulbapedia {{bp|Policy} and especially the Userspace policy since those are the most important for your situtation. I would suggest reading those and editing the mainspace more than the talkspace. If you would like to I would suggest maybe looking at this page since most of the pages list there have an incomplete synopsis. Hopefully, this will help you out. --Super goku (talk) 19:04, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Flinching Debocle

Hey. I'm not really sure how editting the coloumns works, but at the moment there is false information up there regarding Gen V. I know you wanted to hold off removing it completely because a portion of it also had to do with Gen 4, which there is no research on. Could you at least remove all mention of Gen V regarding the 1 - (1-p) * 0.1 thing from that page. So that readers aren't misconstrued into believing something that isn't true. - unsigned comment from V4Victini (talkcontribs)

Oh, I understand now. I have edited the page to go along with Generation V and the previous Generations. Granted, it might end up reverted by another user. Thank you for the message.  :) --Super goku (talk) 22:01, 3 November 2012 (UTC)


The difference between Barry's Empoleon and Red's Pikachu is that Red has a Pikachu regardless of all things. Barry only has an Empoleon if you chose Chimchar. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:03, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I see. That is a very good point. Mostly, I was reverting the edit since that section seemed to be acceptable because it wasn't removed for several months and there have been similar sections on other pages. Thank you for the message.  :) --Super goku (talk) 02:23, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Pokémon Island

Look at what I've changed. Not only have I removed the now redundant roundy code, I have removed a useless colspan="1" and readded the "| colspan="7" style="background:#E62829; border-bottom-left-radius: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px; -webkit-border-bottom-left-radius: 10px; -khtml-border-bottom-left-radius: 10px; -icab-border-bottom-left-radius: 10px; -o-border-bottom-left-radius: 10px; border-bottom-right-radius: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px; -webkit-border-bottom-right-radius: 10px; -khtml-border-bottom-right-radius: 10px; -icab-border-bottom-right-radius: 10px; -o-border-bottom-right-radius: 10px;" |" at the bottom because it was broken. Please try and fix these too. --Abcboy (talk) 05:15, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I think I was planning on mentioning how the tables seem different on one of the edit summaries, but I ended up having to do something else offline and never mentioned it. If any tables are left I will see if I can get them. In any case, thank you for sending me the message.  :) --Super goku (talk) 06:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
I looked over your edits a bit and I noticed at least one thing that I feel should be different. At the bottom you have the code call for a new row to contain the roundy bottom line among other things. ( |- | colspan="7" style="background:#{{Fire color}}; {{roundybottom}}" | |} ) That extra row causes an line to be drawn with nothing in it between the border of the table and the other rows. To clarify, please look at this to see my modifications and compare them to yours. In addition, I did edit a few of the roundy tags to reduce the white space between the border of the table and the content. --Super goku (talk) 07:19, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
That code's only job is to draw a blank line. If you remove the coding "|- | colspan="7" style="background:#{{Fire color}}; {{roundybottom}}" | |}" then I wouldn't worry about it. But instead, you left it as row formatting with no cells. Entirely removing it would have been the best option. --Abcboy (talk) 12:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, I cannot remove the "|}" since that is where the table cuts off at.  :) Joking aside, why would the table need to draw that blank line. There is none above the contents of the table and it makes rounding the bottom of the contents a bit pointless, in my opinion. --Super goku (talk) 21:19, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
What I'm saying is that the coding was left behind, while the cell start was removed. It's sort of like making a blank table. Seemingly, you've fixed all of them already. --Abcboy (talk) 21:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I think I understand now. Sorry about that. ^.^' I think that the only thing left to do is to look over a few of the tables like the Pokémon Island Cave since a few seem to have issues in the columns. I might look at that in the next few days, but I thought that I would mention it to you right now. --Super goku (talk) 22:00, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Event table incomplete template

Please stop adding the incomplete template to the Pokémon pages, because of the broken event tables. They are being fixed slowly, but there is hundreds that need fixed since the template was updated causing them to break. Lady Ariel 22:40, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I see. The reason I was tagging them was so that someone with enough time and knowledge could fix them with ease. I had known that the template had been updated, but I felt that those Pokémon were important enough to be tag due to being actively included in the Event Pokémon template. Sorry for any issues that were caused by my edits. --Super goku (talk) 22:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

S vs Z shape

I seemed to hit the character limit for my edit summary on Route 204 and felt it might be a bit confusing. An S shape is something that has two distinct reversals of direction; that is, whatever it is will travel in a direction, then come to a point where it turns to go in the opposite direction, then turns again to continue on in the original direction. A Z shape is something that turns away from its direction, then returns to its original direction but doesn't go in the complete opposite direction in the process. Glik (talk) 19:37, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I would like to note that the reason I made that change is because a:File:Sinnoh Route 204 Pt.png shows a path that is not shaped like an S, but more like a Z. Would it be alright with you if I called is a backward or flipped S shaped path? --Super goku (talk) 20:12, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Even backwards it's still an S shape. There's really no difference if you say reverse, so go ahead. And now that I look at it, "signature" isn't quite right there. The Route's not especially known for it, more for the cave that requires Rock Smash. Glik (talk) 23:11, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

File links

Files need to be linked by means of linking straight to the archives or else they appear on the wanted pages. This means [[a:File:name.png]] instead of [[:File:name.png]]. Just so you know. MaverickNate 18:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Sushi High Roller

Unless I'm missing something here, $250,000 from the Big Nuggets + $4,680*4 from the Furisode Girls + $10,400 from the Owner is never going to be more than the $500,000 entry cost. -- EnosShayremtalk 00:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

This was discussed on the talk page for Lumiose City, but I can explain it again since more discussion is always better. Basically you will need, Prize Money Power Level 3, either the Luck Incense or the Amulet Coin, and the move Happy Hour. Also, you should have enough style in the city to reduce the entry fee to $450,000 for better results. -$450,000 (entrance cost) + $56,160 ($9,360 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour) + $56,160 + $56,160 + $56,160 + $124,800 ($20,800 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour) + $250,000 ($250,000 is the normal sell value of 25 Big Nuggets.) That means the balance should become a net gain of $149,440. Let me know if you spot any mistakes. --Super goku (talk) 00:56, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


Last year you noted that Blizzard had different accuracy between games and regions in Generation I. I know that the chance of freeze differs, and have seen it discussed plenty of times, but I cannot find any other source discussing the accuracy changing. Do you have evidence of this? Your claim that Blizzard has only 70% accuracy in international RB contradicts iiMarckus's dump. --SnorlaxMonster 16:27, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the lack of a reply, SnorlaxMonster. I dropped back into inactivity since my 3DS is in repairs. To get to the problem, I can recall the edit, but not the full reason I did it. Looking back on my contributions, I did do an edit to the Blizzard page around the same time. You did note that chance of freezing does differ. Looking in that line, the Blizzard page both at the time and in the present does note that "[...] the Japanese versions of the Generation I main series games, Blizzard had a 30% chance of freezing. The chance was lowered to 10% for Pokémon Yellow's Colosseum 2, the Pokémon Stadium games, and all international Generation I games." It looks like I took two different meanings, the accuracy and the chance of freezing, and somehow jumbled them up, especially with the TT template on the article noting that Yellow varies in a similar way to the chance of freezing issue.
With that being noted, should the chance of a Status ailment be included on the article? I think that with the chance being modified, it is also modifying the attack at the same time. --Super goku (talk) 01:03, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I suppose strict things like the chance of inflicting a status condition could be included. --SnorlaxMonster 08:06, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Miiverse Screenshots

(No need to give G50 message alerts for an unrelated sub-topic) So I followed your instructions with the screenshot method, but I ran into an issue. Where you said there should be a "picture with a icon of a plus sign in the corner", I am instead seeing an X, and when clicking on that button, I am getting a message saying "This screenshot cannot be attached." Apparently there are some games that can't have screenshots posted to the Miiverse, but I'm not sure if this is one of them. Have you by chance ever done this with GTI, or other games? I don't even give a Schif (TalkContribs) 18:37, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Huh, I have not seen that before. I have done this with 1001 Spikes, but not with PMD. As a question, can you post a screenshot while in a Dungeon by chance? --Super goku (talk) 04:11, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Tried in a dungeon, and in Paradise while in and out of dialogue. Even tried in a Magnagate dungeon. No dice. Even looking on the GTI boards on the miiverse site I don't see any screenshots, so I really don't know how some people got them. I don't even give a Schif (TalkContribs) 15:47, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
I guess a capture card would be required, but that would cost money. Still, thank you for trying. It does seem that Miiverse screenshots are locked down in GTI for some reason. --Super goku (talk) 08:04, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


You just created like, 10 pages that were redirected to 2009 World Championships Weavile. Are so many redirects really necessary? →SuperPikaPool13 04:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

They were Double Redirects. I just left the Summary empty since I did not think that anyone would be confused. --Super goku (talk) 08:00, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I see. My bad, then. Sorry for bothering you. →SuperPikaPool13 09:12, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Gift Pokémon (Rumble World)

Maybe we should both start using the same code over and over (only after saying goodbye to one) and see if:

  • The moves are the same
  • Get an idea of the actual range

The 700+ could be a fluke that randomly accompanies any of them for all we know. CycloneGU (talk) 05:04, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

I think that there is a small range of variation, but that most of the results will be within the same area. (The moves seem to be preprogrammed into each Pokémon.) --Super goku (talk) 14:29, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I think it'd be good to find out. I can tack that onto my things to do now that I'm at Lv.50 and finally got the Legend Balloon. Possible way to use my downtime. CycloneGU (talk) 15:55, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Slowking Gen IV

Hiya. Maybe you've noticed Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub#Change "Start" and "--" for level up move levels by now. Let me just say up front: I totally get where you're coming from.

But. I didn't only mean Power Gem. In fact, I actually deleted all but Slowpoke's Curse before I traded it, and then Slowking learned all of those "Start" moves (or tried to; except Curse of course).

I'm not sure what your opinion might be here. Like, if you thought I only meant Power Gem and that was okay, maybe that now means you'll accept everything (except maybe Curse). Again, I totally get that "Start" is standard; but I also think it shouldn't be: that it's wrong. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:50, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Noticed it after the manual revert since I can also understand a bit (which is why I did the revert manually instead of taking away the edit), but I am not fully sure how the game always handles these situations. For the moment, I do plan to respond to the issue on the Editor's Hub since that will be a better location for this. Personally, I do want to note Project Pokédex. Specifically, How they have handled learnsets. Starting in BW, there is a notice that appears that says the following: 'A level of "Start" indicates a move that will be known by a Bulbasaur obtained at level 1 in Generation V.' Oddly, using start seems to go back to Generation IV with the original standard using "--" in place of Start. Ultimately, I believe that User:Jo The Marten will need to be involved or the Editors as a whole will have to decided if it should be changed. --Super goku (talk) 02:03, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I was kind of looking for something like that standard. I looked for usage directions on the template talk pages first, and then I tried using Search to look for anything that might be about it on any talk page. I tend to forget the Project pages, though. =P
I'll save any substantive response to whatever you or someone else brings up on the Editor's Hub discussion. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:16, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I have currently been searching for anything related to why learnsets are the way they are and keep hitting roadblocks, so I am not sure how my response will be at this time. (I even checked Serebii in case it might have to do with Pokédex books and guides.) I will do my best, though. --Super goku (talk)
That's an interesting thought. I've got a few guidebooks myself. Prima's Red/Blue guide uses "—"; but their Yellow guide uses "STND" (Standard); Nintendo Power's Crystal guide uses "-"; so does their Colosseum guide; but then their FRLG guide uses 1. That's about the best I can tell you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:43, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I see. While none of those are from Generation IV, the FRLG guide is interesting as it points toward the term "Start" being a fan term. I will check Stadium 2 and see if it lines up with one of the examples above or uses another form, if possible. --Super goku (talk) 02:56, 16 December 2015 (UTC)


Please see Force Fire's talk page. I have created a copy to review linked under your reply there; let me know if something seems wrong or needs changing. I've already requested approval for the changes so they can be implemented site-wide for anyone affected by the abilities. CycloneGU (talk) 19:56, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Personally, I do not know where to reply to, so I will do so here until I know for sure. The first thing I want to point out is that there are no immunities to Fire- and Water-type moves. Thus, all Pokémon would take at least ¼ damage from any attack of those two types. The problem comes with that requiring all Pokémon article to support two addition notes based on Desolate Land and Primordial Sea, while Flying-type Pokémon would receive a third note due to Delta Stream. To give an example, here is Skarmory. Skarmory has five notes already and would gain three more; two for not being immune to Fire- and Water-type moves and a third for being a Flying-type with a weakness to Electric-type moves. That would result in eight total notes just for Skarmory.
That being said, it is not a good policy to be incorrect, so the notes might be required for all articles. It would depend on how closely tied the ability is to the weather, since it is the ability that causes the weather, not the effects. So, to bring myself to a different topic, your note for Delta Stream is slightly off. Delta Stream instead causes Electric-, Ice-, and Rock-type moves to deal neutral damage to Flying-type Pokémon instead of Super Effective damage. Thus, the text could read: 'If Delta Stream is in effect, the effectiveness of Electric-, Ice-, and Rock-type moves above 1x is reduced to 1x or below.' Additionally, Primal Groudon is 4x to Water-type moves without Desolate Land, so that might need to be adjusted on the table. Still, the code is better than what I typed a few days ago, so thank you for building this. --Super goku (talk) 07:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
CycloneGU, have you seen this yet? I would rather not have to start a new discussion on your talkpage, considering your warning. --Super goku (talk) 01:32, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
What warning? I haven't looked at this for a few days myself, I just have stuff in my sandbox for this. If you wish to tinker with that in my sandbox, be my guest. CycloneGU (talk) 02:09, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
"If you are coming here to reply to a message I left on your talk page, PLEASE GO BACK AND REPLY THERE." Anyways, I was referring to your template needing a few adjustments, not your sandbox. --Super goku (talk) 02:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Not really a "warning" per se. It's more for conversations where I've already been to your talk page and you want to reply to me on your talk page. In this case, I didn't know this message was here and never would have known this message was here, so perhaps getting my attention there would have been better. CycloneGU (talk) 03:23, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, you did start the conversation on my talk page and I did want to reply to you on your talk page in the end. ;P Anyways, what I have said is practically the only input that I feel is needed right now since everything else is good. Mostly concerns with Skarmory having eight notes and Delta Stream negating the weaknesses of the Flying-type. --Super goku (talk) 06:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Oh. For future reference, if it's been a week or more, I probably will think the conversation is ended and it's safe to start a new one. =) CycloneGU (talk) 06:43, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


This is how Magnezone shows before National upgrade in HGSS. No idea about Sinnoh games on these. Eridanus (talk) 08:19, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Huh, interesting. I had looked at the 000 article prior and thought that this was true, "Additionally, any Pokémon not in the regional Pokédex that are either caught from the wild by hacking or traded from another game before getting the National Pokédex will have #000 when their Pokédex entry is added to the Pokédex in Generation IV." Sadly, I do not have any Sinnoh games myself to confirm or deny. --Super goku (talk) 20:37, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Is this a bug? Clearly, it's supposed to be #180. CycloneGU (talk) 02:05, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Wrong subject. More, it has to do with Pokémon obtained prior to the National Pokédex. The 000 article says that Gen IV shows 000 as the Dex number until it is unlocked and I ended up adding to the ??? article that Gen V and VI shows ??? as the Dex number. Eridanus has reason to believe that what is written on the 000 article might not be the full truth, but I do not have a Sinnoh game myself. --Super goku (talk) 02:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I have the Sinnoh games, and none have been played by me yet (two being used, Platinum coming from a store). I could pull up Platinum and transfer Pokémon from Soul Silver, perhaps, but I'd have to know what needs to be checked. Might be able to try this week. I can clone the subjects in Soul Silver. CycloneGU (talk) 02:50, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Ah, well that will work then. According to the current version of the 000 article, if the Pokémon is not in the (Sinnoh) regional Pokédex, then their Pokédex number will be #000. In Gen V and VI, this would be ???. The test would require a Pokémon from Soul Silver that would not exist in the Sinnoh dex, like a Johto starter. --Super goku (talk) 03:03, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
A Johto starter? That seems simple enough, I'll just have to find my Platinum and see if I ever took it to the point where I can trade, then trade something for a Chikorita. I'll let you know if I figure that out. I do know for sure ??? appears in X/Y/OR/AS as I have seen it myself and even have video of it, and I suspect that will be the case here too. CycloneGU (talk) 03:21, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. If it is the case here, then the 000 article needs that line removed and the ??? article just needs Gen IV added. --Super goku (talk) 03:25, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

This might be harder than I thought. Apparently, to trade in Pokémon not in the Sinnoh Dex, you need the National Dex first. This will be experimented with, and also whether I can trade from a NDex game (I presume my used Diamond/Pearl are complete) can trade to a non-NDex (my Platinum for sure). I might also be able to hack a Pokémon in using an Action Replay code if I can find one to use that fits the purpose. CycloneGU (talk) 03:30, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

UPDATE: I am mistaken on this. Apparently that's a Pal Park limitation. Trading normally can be done with any of the 493 Pokémon. I'll get back to you both on this subject. CycloneGU (talk) 03:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, I ended up getting a Sinnoh game since my edit and did remember to check. Eridanus is correct on the matter. However, I did reread what the 000 article mentions and realized it focuses on the Pokédex entry. Yet, without the National Dex, it seems that the entry does not exist for those Pokémon. So, the 000 article does not make sense to me. --Super goku (talk) 23:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Silver (game) vs Goldenrod Tunnel

Hey there! So I noticed FinnishPokéFan92 undo your request for cleanup without addressing it, so I took a closer look. I noticed the discrepancy in levels between the two pages, so I searched YouTube for Let's Plays and found this one: which seems to indicate that Goldenrod Tunnel was correct, at least for the if-the-player-picked-Cyndaquil team. Therefore, I changed the levels on Silver (game) to match the ones on Goldenrod Tunnel. Was the level discrepancy the only contradiction you found in the articles, or was there anything else? Thanks! Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:41, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for taking a closer look. The current remaining discrepancy, besides the team order which is barely an issue, would be on the payout between the two pages. I believe that the Goldenrod Tunnel article is the more accurate article, but that would need to be looked into to confirm. Thanks again for the help, --Super goku (talk) 04:29, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Glik/Pokémon GO data

I wanna check about this edit you made on glik's GO page, about the XS/XL numbers.

Did you only see an XL-height Bulbasaur that was 0.88 m, or did you happen to see a regular-sized Bulbasaur that was 0.87 m?

Similarly, can you tell me exactly what XS/XL Weedles you saw, since you also edited that?

Currently, when Carmenstar97 and (I believe) glik are adding numbers there, those numbers are confirmed XS/XL. So 0.88 would have been "correct", not 0.87, if you saw a 0.88 m XL Bulbasaur. Sorry if the notation is confusing.

Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:56, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Likely it is notation confusion, so sorry for the trouble. With the app down, I only have what pictures that I took. I believe Bulbasaur had the XL Bulbasaur at 0.88 m, while I 'apparently' have a Weedle with the XL tag at 4.25 kg, 4.39 kg, 4.46 kg, and 5.14 kg and at 0.38 m. Additionally, I have the XS tag at 2.02 kg, 1.87 kg, 1.44 kg, and 0.81 kg and at 0.22 m and 0.20 m.
When I can log into the app, I will confirm the data. I just was confused how to write it in the table. Still, thank you for helping to reduce the confusion on the matter
--Super goku (talk) 15:07, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
We've been identifying an apparent pattern, where it looks like XL/XS is +/-25% of the Pokedex's standard height/weight. You also edited 3.99 for XL Weedle's weight, so if that was actually a 4.00 kg Weedle, that works out perfectly as expected. That's the only remaining thing I'm wondering about. Thanks! Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:45, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Huh, the 25% idea makes sense. As for the Weedle, I apparently caught it sometime after I took the images, so I will try to get GO running again to confirm. Btw, I was wondering what to do if we encounter a situtation like this in relation to the stardust. It looks like it might cause a few issues. --Super goku (talk) 16:00, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
The really complicated thing from that is, XS/normal/XL can also change when a Pokemon evolves. =P
Honestly, the most ideal thing would be to take 3 different Pidgey (or something, just all one species...and no evolution), record their height/weight (and initial CP/HP), and then record their CP/HP each time you Power them Up and the costs required each time...for each Pidgey, for a good ways (maybe up to 300-400 CP or something). Then you could start trying to compare what's happening to each Pidgey and why (and eventually try to generalize out to other Pokemon). 3 Pidgey might not be enough to be sure we could identify a pattern, but it's the minimum to start drawing a truly informed guess.
If anyone would do anything like that, I would be overjoyed. (Data is awesome. ^_^ ) It doesn't have to all be the same person, either. But until then, I fear that scattered half-reports can only be a poor substitute. =/ Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:21, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
It is true that only partial reports will cause some confusion. I am just worried that the sizes do factor into stardust consumption for powering up. Anyways, I was able to get GO running and the Weedle that is 4(.00) kg is listed with the XL tag. If you do want screenshots, I do have them for the specific Weedle and Bulbasaur.
Weedle Data for Weight: 0.81 to 2.23 kg is XS; 2.51 to 3.98 kg is neither; 4.00 to 5.79 kg is XL
Weedle Data for Height: 0.20 to 0.22 m is XS; 0.26 to 0.36 m is neither; 0.38 m is XL
Anyways, hopefully more data will help to get a better picture over what is going on.  :) --Super goku (talk) 17:55, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
I think you're right, there's something else in the stardust consumption. Maybe size; or it could be just how many times the Pokemon has been powered-up (if it had a high starting CP in the first place). Or who knows what. We need data!
Thanks for checking those sizes! Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:11, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Granted, I was not the one who discovered it, just the one who gave you a heads up on something odd. :P
Not a problem. Just happy that everything has worked out in the end.  :) --Super goku (talk) 18:24, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Er, actually I do have a question on the notation. After your edit, it says that the XL threshold is ">0.88 m" for Bulbasaur. So, If I have a Bulbasaur with 0.88 m and attempt to compare it to what is said, then I would see 0.88 m > 0.88 m, which is false to me. Is that how it is intended to be read? --Super goku (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
I meant to change it before and forgot. It should be better now. Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:33, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Ah, that works so much better. Thank you for changing it since I did not think about using the greater/lesser or equal signs. --Super goku (talk) 23:25, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Underleveled Pokémon

Hello Super Goku.

I know you are compiling a list of underleveled Pokémon. I have discovered that during the battle in Mt. Chimney with Maxie/Archie in Pokémon Ruby, Emerald and Omega Ruby/Sapphire and Alpha Sapphire respectively, they both have an underleveled Pokémon in their party. In Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, Maxie uses a Camerupt that is at level 25, but it doesn't evolve from Numel until level 33. Similarly, Archie uses a Sharpedo that is at level 25, but it doesn't evolve from Carvanha until level 30. In Omega Ruby/AlphaSapphire, these Pokémon are at level 27, but still underleveled. I suggest adding these to your list. Thank you!

Gotashketchumall (talk) 04:40, 17 September 2017 (UTC)