Talk:Leon (anime)

Twilight Wings section

Hi, BigDocFan. I was looking at the page, and I wanted to ask, is it relevant to keep the Twilight Wings section on it? I mean, they are two distant interpretations of the character. And the anime one has already shown that it will have content to keep on its own in the future. I thought about taking it out, but since the page is yours, I thought it would be a very drastic change on the page of others. Another thing I wanted to ask, don't you think it is interesting to put in the section of achievements, the scene where Lance and Leon join hands in winning the World Championship?--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 12:00, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Leon as a Rival

Shouldn't we add Leon in the Rivals section of the Anime Characters template? His rivalry with Ash has been established since the early episodes of Journeys. (Rioxイブイ 17:16, 8 May 2022 (UTC))

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For me, he is the main rival of the Journeys series as well. At least for me he has all the requirements of a rival. Hikaru Wazana (talk) 17:23, 06 May 2022 (UTC)

I think the general idea was for Ash to at least reach the Master Class before adding him. Now that Ash is there, I feel like it's pretty safe to add him (and he's been hidden on the template since February without being removed). PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 18:15, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Why does Leon's Charizard not have its own article?

Just been thinking about this - we have them for Cynthia's Garchomp, Lance's Dragonite, Steven's Metagross, Alain's Charizard and Diantha's Gardevoir - it seems we should. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 13:18, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

It's a long long story...Hikaru Wazana (talk) 13:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Long story short, one admin decided against the community and it’s guidelines that Charizard wasn’t deserving of it, so it’s locked out of a page until that admin changes their mind.--Pikablu (talk) 14:07, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

We are looking to mainspace Leon's Charizard, the problem we have at present is we currently have two userpages for Leon's Charizard so are trying to work out how to handle mainspacing one of them.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 16:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

If it was an article about his Charizard from another iteration, then that'd be fine. Its anime iteration is not notable, which is why I've rebuffed it multiple times. In short, have the article not focus on its anime iteration should be fine.--ForceFire 17:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Here we go again...--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 18:36, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

(resetting indent)I believe a prominent reason for mainspacing it is the character's notability overall, so I agree that it shouldn't necessarily be an anime-focused article. Landfish7 20:19, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

The current page at User:BigDocFan/Leon's Charizard covers Charizard across multiple media and iterations, including the games, (multiple) anime, manga. It should be notable enough for the mainspace now. The other page at User:HygorBH/Leon's Charizard (in addition to being created later than the other draft) has not been updated since long ago and does not contain much of the information on the other page. So it should be pretty easy to choose which page to mainspace. The admins may look into if merging the histories of both the pages is feasible. → PikaTepig999 20:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

I also always treated the Bigdocfan page as the main one for Leon's Charizard. I understand wanting to take advantage of the work that HygorBH did, but the page wasn't updated even by him after a while. The BigdocFan page is ready...--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 23:04, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

So what's blocking implementation? Notability can't seriously be the issue when its a staple of the game and anime. For heaven's sake, Trevor's Charizard exists, as does Charla. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 12:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Just time. Staff discussion seems to indicate that Leon's Charizard is notable. We're still working on getting it mainspaced. We appreciate your patience and understanding while we get things prepared for it. Landfish7 23:35, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

This is likely the final draft, and we will probably be mainspacing it soon. We just need to sort out merging page histories and such. Landfish7 23:38, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Since Storm Aurora's page is just a moving around of BigDocFan's page with no conflicting histories, it should be pretty easy to merge the histories. I'd hope that it is done soon, so that there aren't any edits on the inidvidual pages in the meantime that might make it harder to merge histories. I'd like to request any editors reading this to wait on making edits till the pages are merged and mainspaced so that it's easier that way. Thanks and here's hoping this gets sorted soon. → PikaTepig999 00:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)