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The gallery at the top extends past the edge of smaller-sized browser windows, at least in Chrome (possibly other browsers too). Perhaps it could be put into two rows instead of just one long one? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 22:43, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

I made the art larger than it appears in Pikachu variants and List of Pokémon with form differences to match Cosplay Pikachu's page. If those displays work better with smaller windows, I will gladly change it. If not, perhaps two rows would be better. - Chosen of Mana 00:10, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

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Can this Pokemon have hidden ability? And can be Partner Cap traded to SM?--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 17:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

They all have Static and no it can not. --Spriteit (talk) 12:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I mean, does it have Lightningrod as a hidden ability even if it is not available?--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 12:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

In that case, at least in the data for HOME and SwSh, it is programmed to have LR as a HA. --Spriteit (talk) 13:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 13:14, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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Literally what is the point of this switch? It doesn't even do anything.--Rocket Grunt 13:36, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I would like to ask the same question too. You can see the code above this code, none of code which is using switch like that.-- Linja | Talk 06:11, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

I think there's a proper name, and it's not "Pikachu in a cap".

So, while I was adding some more detail to this page I decided to have a gander at some of the old articles on this topic. And it appears that the group of these has a proper name. Two press releases, one article, and the swath of cards all seem to want this article to be "Ash's Pikachu". Opposing the change stands a single description, from two sets of paired games, in a context where much of the time the name would be rejected for not being enough like a "name". Hmm. This is quite the conundrum, especially because game terms have some extra weight by virtue of being from a game. What's one to do? My vote is actually on change. Since these forms were initially introduced in this promotion, the words of that promotion should carry more weight. Salmancer (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

It's called "Pikachu in a cap" in-game, which I feel takes precedence over everything else. Landfish7 11:25, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

How about the offcial name be Cap Pikachu? as forms are called Cap Pikachu with the first word being different depending on hat?Jacob9594 (talk) 19:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Is "Cap Pikachu" used by itself officially anywhere? Landfish7 19:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Other than what is said on terminology, I am sure its else well other than offical form name.Jacob9594 (talk) 20:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Did my edits on this months ago but I thought I'd say it here. the Japanese guides specifically refer to it as "Satoshi's Pikachu" not from the game directly, but I'm certainly noticing a pattern. "Pikachu in a cap" while officially used in-game, isn't a title or name as far as I know, it's a description simply explaining that the ones to use the Z-Move can be used with a "Pikachu [wearing] a cap".TrainerSplash (talk) 02:31, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

To me, if they are collectively most consistently referred to descriptively, then the page should use a descriptive title. That being said, perhaps the lede can be altered to make it more clear that "Pikachu in a cap" is not a proper noun. Landfish7 14:01, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

I believe before the terminology section was added, the lede did say that title of the page came from the Z-Crystal, maybe it's worth adding such a notice back. However, I'd argue that the terminology is already incredibly inconsistent within itself (and I think my recent reorganization of that section kinda illustrates that). "Pikachu in a Cap" has only ever been used in context of the Pikashunium Z Z-Crystal, which by the time SV and HOME has rolled out, is actually outdated. Within the core series itself, "Pikachu in a cap" is used once between SM-PLA as an item description, while "Pikachu wearing a cap" is used twice in SM/USUM for items and NPCs and a third time for SV's updated item description, and HOME then uses "Pikachu wearing a hat" once in HOME for a sticker. This is excluding the many Pokedex descriptions that say "Pikachu wearing the hat/cap of it's partner/trainer". I WOuld personally prefer the more up to date term, but those are more inconsistent of itself, and I personally believe just titling it "Ash's Pikachu (game)" would be much easier to understand and read, especially since, you know, that's what it is.. TrainerSplash (talk) 20:15, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

(reset indent) Been a year but just gonna add my voice to this discussion, which is to say that "Pikachu in a Cap" as far as I can tell isn't actually the kind of terminology thats used anywhere in the game as far as I can tell. its always "___ Cap Pikachu". While most likely we will never get a fully official term for the grouping i think simply moving the article to "Cap Pikachu" would be best and most internally consistent with how the forms are organized in the Pokédex. 4iamking 23:33, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

I think some supporting evidence would be useful here since the article's (admittedly lengthy) terminology section seems to contradict this. Landfish7 00:13, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Boosting this again.

"Pikachu in a Cap" is only used in the description for the Z-Crystal, both as a bag and held item description. Scarlet and Violet changed it to "Pikachu wearing a cap", so it's not even the most up to date term anymore.

I personally think we shouldn't be making up terms, but there's clearly (while inconsistent) several names for it. I'm still personally under the opinion that "Ash's Pikachu (game)" should be used, as it is the most consistent, even when it's mentioning that it's wearing something. The Ash's Pikachu page actually has nearly the same information that I'm wondering if it should even be split. I know the anime page is already huge, but if they're base don the same topic maybe they should be combined? if not, the fact that the anime page has nearly the same info and this is primarily just for the game alternative, I think that just leads more into belief of calling this "Ash's Pikachu (game)".

"Cap Pikachu" is used on the page, but there's is no implication at all that this is a fan term and as far as I am aware it's not used in-game. TrainerSplash (talk) 21:24, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm honestly amiable to deleting/redirecting this page if it's fully superseded by Ash's Pikachu, though this page could also be useful as a space to split out the game data from Ash's Pikachu, which is becoming increasingly large.

Either way, we'll still need to decide how to describe the forms collectively. I'm still leaning toward a generic descriptor, since "Ash's Pikachu" seems to describe the event Pikachu itself rather than the forms as a group.

My main hesitation with moving this page is that the in-game Ash's Pikachu doesn't seem meaningfully distinct as a character, making a split feel somewhat silly, for lack of a better way of putting it. Landfish7 03:08, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I suppose a descriptive title like "Pikachu wearing Ash's hat" would fit all cases on this page. The animation section is about instances where Ash's Pikachu happens to be wearing Ash's hat. According to the notice at the top, the article has no official name anyway.

I think the current name "Pikachu in a cap" is a bit misleading... Technically it could be about Pikachu wearing any kind of cap, including Pikachu Ph.D., Captain Pikachu, Mario Pikachu, and so on. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 04:00, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I think that's a good explanation for the current scope, yeah. Landfish7 04:09, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I'd like to defend the possibility of making the title "Cap Pikachu". According to the Pokédex, the form names are [adjective] Cap. There's precedent in the games, even if not used for these Pikachu forms specifically, of referring to a Pokémon by its form name and then its species, like "Origin Forme Palkia". Therefore, [adjective] Cap Pikachu is an acceptable way to refer to one of these Pikachu. It then makes logical sense that you can refer to all of them by dropping the adjective and simply saying Cap Pikachu. Storm Aurora (talk) 05:21, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't mind the title of the page being "Pikachu wearing Ash's hat" since I don't think there's any consistent usage of the group at all. A term maybe necessary to be used on Pikachu's infobox, I don't think we should have "wearing Ash's hat" in every mention of the group in smaller spaces haha. I'd also like to mention, Ash's hat is a page too, making me question how much pages we have related to this topic. I'm almost tempted to call the group "Pikashu" after the actual Z-Crystal name, since the Japanese name is "Satopika" and that *is* a Japanese fan term for Ash's Pikachu last I checked, but the English equivalent is really silly sounding and I don't think I've seen anyone actually ever call his Pikachu that.

I'm not the biggest fan of "Cap Pikachu" either, because there's inconsistency between Cap and Hat, even in-game. But also I'm just not really the biggest fan of the word, think most people call it "Ash's hat" not "Ash's cap". It's not necessarily a deal breaker for me though, if that's just what's most descriptive to people. TrainerSplash (talk) 07:01, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

In my opinion, one problem with "Cap Pikachu" is that it sounds like an official form name when that's not the case. It's more likely to require some explanation in the intro text, except for people who already know Bulbapedia conventions. Like the current title, "Cap Pikachu" could also be a page about all instances of Pikachu wearing any cap, such as Mario Pikachu. It may also sound like short for Captain Pikachu (who is also called Cap).

As a descriptive title, "Pikachu wearing Ash's hat" should be self-explanatory and work well for bringing together several different Pikachu forms like "Hoenn Cap", TCG cards named "Ash's Pikachu", and informal instances of Pikachu wearing Ash's hat. I think it would be more likely to match the wording used by people unfamiliar with Bulbapedia terminology. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 09:41, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I would just like to point out the many comments about not being able to use "Cap Pikachu (or other iterations)" because there are other Pikachu in caps in not an actual issue. Things are allowed to be denoted by a potentially nebulous, officially supported, phrase as long as we frame the content correctly and have the appropriate hatnotes and see alsos. Pokémon card can technically describe any possible card related to Pokémon at all (Pokémon playing cards for example), but that doesn't change the standard denotation of the thing. Let's move on from that specific non-argument. ^Maverick_Nate 11:21, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

This makes sense. "Cap Pikachu" is a very identifiable way to concisely describe the forms, and is still based on the official language used, even if it hasn't been used by itself.

Also, just want to note that both Cap and Hat being used equally isn't a problem. Since Cap is used in the form names itself, it's perfectly defensible to use it even if hat is also a valid term to use when explaining the topic. Landfish7 13:25, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Tbh one thing is since this page is really about a set of forms and not really about any specific character; it might be worth formatting the title in the same way the game would, i.e. Pikachu (Cap) 4iamking 14:06, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't think we need to label these topics the same way the Pokédex labels them. Understandability is much more important here. Landfish7 14:21, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

My personal support goes to "Cap Pikachu": simple and follows the in-game sources. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:55, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I formed this opinion after following this discussion throughout today, not noticing what the move suggestion had been changed into before leaving the above message. Sorry for being a bit late to the "party", but better late than never. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:58, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

It's really primarily a formatting change to align with how forms are communicated officially; I wouldn't say it affects understandability because the words wouldn't change + "Cap Pikachu" could still be a redirect. 4iamking 15:01, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

The page title should best reflect the topic as it would be explained naturally in prose, not just mirroring the formatting of a Pokédex form label. Landfish7 15:17, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I think the way the form names tend to be labeled officially is worth documenting, but they're not really useful in explaining the topic on a broader level, which is moreso what the page and its title should be trying to achieve. Landfish7 15:29, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand why "Cap Pikachu" would be a more desirable name than the current title, which has actually been used officially as a collective term to refer to the group of forms. I don't feel that strongly about which of the official terms to use but I do think "Cap Pikachu" shouldn't be a contender, as it is unofficial. Hewer (talk) 17:41, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

"Pikachu in a cap", the current title, feels like too much of a sentence and not a title or name to me, nor is it very descriptive to me (in other words, I think it should be more specific or more simplified), it once again comes from something defunct, and if they were willing to change it it's probably not something they want to keep. My issue with "Cap Pikachu", other than my previous reasons is that I agree it sounds too much like an unofficial pokedex term that we should avoid. It hasn't even been used in any official capacity for even promotion, let alone games. I know "Ash's Pikachu" is describing the events and not the forms, but I do think we should take into consideration that that is what the form actually is. It may be argued that something like Pokemon GO has them and they aren't Ash's in the slightest, but GO doesn't consider them forms, just costumes. The page is already describing something it probably shouldn't (this isn't a page for when any Pikachu has worn Ash's hats, but group of forms who are known to wear Ash's hats, similar to Cosplay Pikachu as a collective). The Pokemon Tretta section just mentions all cases where it's specifically Ash's Pikachu (one of them is not wearing the hat at all), and that was before the concept of the form was even introduced. If it's just going to stay as a page for whenever Ash's Pikachu has appeared in the games in any capacity, the name of the page probably should be "Ash's Pikachu (game)", which would actually help a lot with linking. TrainerSplash (talk) 20:16, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

In defense of "Cap Pikachu", I suppose it's at least official-adjacent since there are official forms with "Cap" in the name. It could be just me, but I think this term would be more acceptable as plural: "The Cap Pikachu are the following Pikachu forms: Original Cap, Hoenn Cap, Sinnoh Cap..."

Personally I still prefer "Pikachu wearing Ash's hat", but I understand if maybe we don't want descriptive names like that for one reason or another. "Ash's Pikachu wearing its Trainer's hat" is used officially, is that too long for a title?

About "Ash's Pikachu (game)", the current page "Pikachu in a cap" also has manga and animation sections so I'm not sure why we would single out (game) as the dabtag. Also, as seen on the article "Ash's Pikachu", it has several appearances in the games (including spin-offs) regardless of it wearing the hat or not. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 00:47, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

For me, personally, either the current title of "Cap Pikachu" would sound good. It's probably for the best to leave Ash's name out of the article name, I think. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 01:26, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Cap Pikachu is the perfect solution and avoids other issues and simple name. Jacob9594 (talk) 01:55, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Except for the one biggest issue, which is that it's a made-up fan name. Hewer (talk) 10:47, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

The Manga and anime sections is about any time Ash's Pikachu wears Ash's hat at all, regardless if it is tied to the form or not. Which is what I've been trying to say. The page describes a series of topics unrelated to what the form is. If this is about the form, why is Pikachu wearing Ash's hat in an episode 20 years prior to it's debut as mechanic or function in any media listed? it's not the same thing. If it must be kept, the title of the page should reflect that, or we need to remove the unnecessary information.

Also we have other pages that talk about anime material that has a game label. Should we rename Dawn (game) too? of course not, it's just indicating the main medium while including the others. Ash's Pikachu imo IS the most consistent name, and either (game), (event) or (form) should be the proper labels. I'd rather we not continue a habit of making fan terms the article title like we've done with so many other group pages. TrainerSplash (talk) 03:59, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

The main topic can be about the forms while also including the related information of Pikachu wearing Ash's hat in the animated series and other media. I imagine we'd similarly include such information on a page for any other Pokémon form if that form basically happened to already appear in some capacity before it appeared in the games.

"Ash's Pikachu (game)" would imply the article is about a game counterpart to Ash's Pikachu, which we would only split out from the main Ash's Pikachu page if the character was meaningfully distinct and notable in its own right. In this case, this is implied (and sometimes directly stated) to literally be the same Pikachu, so that title does not work. Instead, this article would be a subtopic of Ash's Pikachu, covering these specific forms of Ash's Pikachu, which "Cap Pikachu" would be a good descriptive title for. Landfish7 04:57, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Re TrainerSplash "Should we rename Dawn (game) too?" -- I understand that is our current convention, but there was also a 2024 discussion with the suggestion of removing (game) from all article names. Personally, my preference is still that Dawn (game) should be called just Dawn as the main topic, but I understand that we are not reassessing all the article names at this time, much less on the talk page for a Pikachu form. I'm just answering your question.

I agree that "Ash's Pikachu (game)" does not work in this case. "Cap Pikachu" may not be perfect, but is arguably one of the best options we have so far. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 08:20, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Why are we making up a fan term to be a "good descriptive title" when we already have a number of officially used descriptive terms for the group of forms, such as the currently used title? Hewer (talk) 10:47, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

We're allowed to use the official descriptive language to inform how we concisely describe a topic. There's also precedent for us using an appropriate conjectural name that differs from official language, such as with Convergent species. Landfish7 11:04, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

This is a non-answer. We are using the official descriptive language currently. The suggestion to use "Cap Pikachu" is saying we should stop using official language in favour of a fan term loosely based on it. The obvious difference with "Convergent species" is that there is no official term for that subject, whereas there are multiple here. Hewer (talk) 11:12, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

We actually absolutely should rename "Dawn (game)" and should have done so long ago already, but that's a separate matter. Hewer (talk) 10:47, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

(resetting indent) This page is most useful as a dedicated page to the game forms. Which, notably, is some Pikachu no longer under the care of their previous Trainer, who happens to be Ash (in places where Ash doesn't even exist). The other sections that talk about Ash's Pikachu sometimes wearing the hat in the anime, manga, cards, etc are really just trivial distractions to the main point. I would recommend culling a lot of that information back to the base Ash's Pikachu page to remove all the content creep this page experienced. It's essentially just a ==See also== blown out of proportion.

If/when we were to accomplish the above, it would be most in line with our content policies to follow the wording from the most recent game appearance Pikachu wearing a cap (also used before SV, in the Gen 7 descriptions of 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt). It's the collective term to talk about these specific Pikachu as a group. Theoretically, Ash's Pikachu in all of its different caps is the only one we currently know about, with the game descriptions choosing to be non-committal (presumably on purpose). ^Maverick_Nate 12:50, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

"Pikachu wearing a cap" sounds fitting to me. I wouldn't mind if that was used as the article title. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:49, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

The fact they unified the descriptor between the Z-Crystal and Z-Move descriptions does convince me towards "Pikachu wearing a cap" more, yeah. Landfish7 13:56, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

This is the type of answer I was looking for, thanks Nate! A big question that would probably come from this is "how do we know if one of these Pikachu is based on the form?" and I think the simple answer to that is, outside the one Pokemon Adventures shot with the boxes, the form has really only ever been used when performing a Z-Move and Ash throws the hat onto Pikachu, at least that's a good indicator in my opinion.

I think "Pikachu wearing a cap" or similar would be the most viably consistent here. Daniel also proposed "Pikachu wearing it's Trainer's hat", which I do think is also consistent, but as they said, may be a bit too long. We have multiple official descriptors, and I think it'd be best to use one of them. I agree with "Pikachu wearing a cap". TrainerSplash (talk) 16:44, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps we should double check the source materials, but to me it seems everything except for Tretta and the early anime mentions seem to directly refer to these forms? Unless the page is presenting things inaccurately. Is there anything else that seems off that I'm missing? Landfish7 17:37, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I agree that it certainly seems things could be presented or formatted better, for sure. Landfish7 17:41, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

The anime section needs clean up, tretta should probably be removed entirely, Ga-ole has two pucks that are just generic Ash's Pikachu concepts, and then GO has a section about Them too. Which I don't even know where to begin with those. I'm kind of okay with those being there, but at the same time, they function differently than they would in the main series; They can be shiny, have both genders, can be on both Pichu and Raichu, and cannot be transferred to another game. They do call them Original and World Cap though, but the original announcement kind of just skirted around calling them anything. TrainerSplash (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

I wanted to do a bit more digging as well, the video announcement for the Sun and Moon event, as well as the press announcement for the entire collection (movie, game tcg, etc) strictly calls them "Ash's Pikachu", even to the point of labeling each individual on in both the event schedule and images. No clue if this changes minds even more (it's all really confusing and I don't even know anymore myself). TrainerSplash (talk) 18:35, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

This is useful info - thanks for digging! This Pikachu is definitely often intended to be Ash's Pikachu, but then sometimes they're vague about it, so I do like that "Pikachu wearing a cap" sidesteps that a bit and clearly draws from core game dialogue to describe the topic in a way that doesn't come across as a quasi-official identifier (an issue we've admittedly bumped into before with other recent discussions, but I'll let the decision for this topic stand on its own merits). Landfish7 19:15, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Regarding the Ga-Olé pucks, this one doesn't even have 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt, so it's definitely the most irrelevant. Landfish7 19:45, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

"Pikachu wearing a cap" works for me. Hewer (talk) 19:10, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Okay, "Pikachu wearing a cap" works per the reasons above. I had the impression before that this article was going to be about any instances of Pikachu wearing the hat, even in random anime scenes from early generations. If this article is specifically about the Pikachu forms like "Hoenn Cap", which were introduced in Gen 7, it would make sense to remove all the anime content from Generations 1-6 and all the Tretta (Gen 6) content.

Are the Pichu and Raichu forms like "Original Cap Pichu" from Pokémon GO going to stay on the article? --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:33, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Seems we'll be moving forward with the title Pikachu wearing a cap. I've started a draft article so we can work on what this page should look like post-move. Landfish7 04:18, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

I like how this is looking, While I enjoy the similarities being put into trivia, it feels a little congested with the other gallery tags and the puck table, which makes me feel like it's just best to leave it off. I don't really like trivia sections in general, so I wonder if just side mentions of Ash's Pikachu in the spin-off sections would be good, that way people can still be directed to a page with more relevant information. Additionally, it might be worth making an actual gallery section so the artwork is more collected, and the HOME artwork has a place instead of trivia. Not to mention the Menu and Pokedex sprites as well. TrainerSplash (talk) 08:13, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

I like the draft, and I think it's a good idea to list the previous similar instances in the trivia, similar to how the Honey article lists the appearances of regular honey in its trivia section before the item itself debuted in the games. I feel they are important things to include. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:30, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

If something doesn't belong in the main body, it probably doesn't belong at all. That honey example looks like it's was written 20 years ago and only had content added to it, the information there can definitely be moved. But this is about Pikachu, having so many images and tables in such a small trivia section just makes it look really bloated., to me it's just really unnecessary if Ash's hat and Ash's Pikachu both exist and there's ways to link people to those articles in a much easier way than creating trivia bloat. TrainerSplash (talk) 20:01, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

I think moving that info to Ash's hat seems appropriate. We can briefly mention these references somewhere and just link there. Landfish7 20:03, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Trivia sections are specifically about stuff that doesn't fit into the main body of an article. I don't feel mentioning the earlier instances of Ash's Pikachu wearing the hat in earlier generations would be out of place in the trivia section. Same for the game stuff. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Though if the galleries are what would make the trivia section feel bloated, maybe the images could be left out and only the text mentions be left in? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:35, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

I have a whole range of reasons why I think we should limit trivia sections on every page, but that's not something to really discuss on the Pikachu page. My opinion is that if something isn't considered important, we shouldn't make a trash a pit to put it in, because at some point it wouldn't be considered trivial or would bloat the page. If it's important enough to mention, it should go in a section that's appropriate. I don't think there's any issue with saying "Ash's Pikachu has also worn his hat on numerous occasions without relation to this form" in the animation section of the page. It's simple and leads people to TWO proper articles, and doesn't cloud up the rest of the pages with unnecessary image galleries.

I'd actually like to fill in the core series section a bit more, but I'm unsure what that would look like other than making it similar to the partner Pikachu/Eevee page. Although maybe a list of differences to regular Pikachu wouldn't be bad, it's already headed in that direction. TrainerSplash (talk) 21:38, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

One thing I've tried here is moving the anime images to the gallery with a note similar to the one you suggested, and removed the table for Tretta, while keeping the prose for now. Does this seem amiable? Landfish7 01:02, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

That looks good to me, at least. -- FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 07:57, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

I was under the impression that the gallery would be removed and the worded reference to Pikachu wearing Ash's hat would be at the top of the section (not a hat note, just a passive mention). I'm fine with everything else though. If this is the compromise though I won't push further. TrainerSplash (talk) 19:52, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

I think readers would find the images nice but I do agree that some sort of qualifier in the section intro would be appropriate. Landfish7 21:06, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Made an update to that effect. Landfish7 11:44, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Looks good to me. I'd be ready to go with that. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:47, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Works for me, I think this is a good compromise. the dare da for SM054 also apparently has it, I wonder if this should be mentioned in the article at all. TrainerSplash (talk) 22:36, 19 June 2026 (UTC)