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Shipping Pages Notice
The Shipping section of Bulbapedia underwent a large overhaul as discussed by the Editorial Board, primarily due to the largely speculative nature of the entire section. For future, content regarding Shipping we are encouraging people to head to the Shippers' Paradise subforum to discuss and share with others.

The eligibility criteria for getting a section on the major ships pages was determined by a three point system, with the occasional EB exception:

1) A main character must be involved
2) All characters involved must be at least recurring characters
3) There must be a clear display of affection (kiss or equivalent between them), OR the notion of one or both characters being attracted to the other must be explicitly shown or discussed, OR the notion of the two characters being a couple must be explicitly brought up (including as a joke/tease and as a disguise) in at least one version of the Pokémon franchise (including dubs).


How do you get the Project Shipping banner on your profile? I'm a member, but I want people who look onto my profile to know that I am. sincerely, evan, a fan of aaml -EVAN AAML

Hmm, Project Shipping huh?...sounds like fun! I'll help anyway I can! sincerely, evan, a fan of aaml -EVAN AAML

Since this has a few members could I join? --Jemar 10:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Of course you can! Just sign in in the Project Page.--うずまき ハルカ 22:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Where's that? Paul'sDialga (John 14:44, 2 November 2008 (UTC))

HI! I'd like to help the Project, how can I?--うずまきハルカ01:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Just stick your name in... Agent 448Talk | DP 01:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to help. The shipping section is the part of this site I read the most! :) Hikari

I like to read about couples. How more do I like to help out on articles about couples! How do I join? Big-Time Crush On Ash 02:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Just add your name to the list of participants. You don't need to ask permission. --FabuVinny T-C-S 02:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I would like to join but I know I can't help. Is that OK?Cerberus 02:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Can I join too?--Dawnfan47 02:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Of course you can join! Just need to sign in! -うずまき ハルカ 21:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Cerberus 22:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Umm... May I join too? And can anyone explain how to sign in? I'm sort of new to this --AmberFire 284 (Erm, I think I did it... am I right?)

I would like to join--Paul'sDialga

I've been wanting to join this for awhile. And how do I make the link to my user page blue instead of red? It says I don't have permission to edit. But I'm not trying to edit, just linking to the page. -- Dani

Add your name to the member list on this page. You won't be able to do anything to your own user page just yet, though. The link is red because the page doesn't exist; to create the page, you have to edit the page; and nobody can edit their pages right now because the Admins have put a ban on userspace edits in place. --Martonimos((Talk)) 16:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I would also like to join--Buneary_Piplup

This sounds great, so I'd like to join, too.-- ottomaniac123

Culd i join 2? I kno tons of ships and evidence =)--emovampire1

I have joined and wondered if project members could like have tags showing what major ships they follow on their user page Desukaan563, with a pokedex of over 380! 12:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, is it too late to join? If not I can still get some evidence.--PkmnTrainerWhite


How can I do the Tag to the Project Shipping? I don't konw how to do Tags.--うずまきハルカ02:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, they had no time to make a tag for Project Shipping... Agent 448Talk | DP 02:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

It's because of this that I want to do the Tag, but I don't know how.--うずまきハルカ02:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I think I might know how.. but I'm not a member ^^; TinaTheKirlia ♥ 02:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

That's OK, I just need some help to do the Tag, you don't need to be a member of this Project to help me.-- うずまきハルカ 02:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Here's the tag BASE - go ahead and edit it and such.. like change the image, rewrite the sentence.. that's the base. User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox/Tag. TinaTheKirlia ♥ 03:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Spr DP Young Couple.png This article is part of Project Shipping, a Bulbapedia project that aims to write comprehensive articles on each couple in Pokémon.

Well, here is the best thing that I can think, so, how is it?--うずまきハルカ03:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Spr DP Young Couple.png This user is a member of the Shipping Bulbapedia Project.

And, how about this? Is that good?-- うずまきハルカ 03:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Good enough for now... Agent 448Talk | DP 04:21, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


Shou we point out which ships are homsexuel in the redrets? Cerberus 16:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't think need this. Why do you think so?-- うずまきハルカ17:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

You'd know if it was or not, because the shippings say the names. If it's two guys or girls... well, you know the deal. Don't think we need this, but it was a sorta good idea. TinaTheKirlia 17:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Just in case people can't tell from the title like 3rd weal shiping I thought is was Brock and May. for exmple. Cerberus 21:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

We could name the characters in the redirects. That way viewers could know if it is a pairing they want to avoid without us implying anything negative about homosexuality. --FabuVinny T-C-S 02:16, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats a good idea. Cerberus 17:45, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I didn't even think there were any homoshipping articles... There isn't is there? GuyNamedSean 07:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there is.

I think that maybe some ships such as PikaShipping (AshXPikachu), PreciousMetalShipping (GoldXSilver) from Pokemon Adventures Magna, and KrazyShipping (MeothXPikachu)should should be more like "Having an Affinity for" because I know Ash isn't going to marry Pikachu, though they are more than friends. Or Meowth and Pikachu, it's more like they're friends despite being enemies. Same with Gold and Silver. Just wondering (then I would follow those ships), Desukaan563, with a pokedex of over 380! 12:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Why? It's not about "marriage". People can love each other without that. It's about the idea that people like two (or more) characters together romantically. To what extent is at each's own discretion. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 13:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

This is a BIG project

I'm glad there is interest in improving the shipping articles. Just bear in mind that they need a lot of work.
My input is this: Lose the evidence lists. If we replace them with prose from the perspective of why fans believe in the particular pairings then the articles will become far more encyclopediac. That way, we can describe them in a more truthful manner and acknowledge the few ships that are actually canon. Does this sound agreeable? --FabuVinny T-C-S 02:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, to me it's good in this way. -うずまき ハルカ 19:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

It's perfect. Pokemaniac102


Are we running out of names for ships? Cerberus 02:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't think so. Tina δ 02:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
No way, man, no way. TTEchidnaGSDS! 03:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm just saying some ships have dumb names. Cerberus 17:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

It's because half of the ships (no offense to anyone!) are rather crazy anyway. I mean... I always considered one of the rules for making a new ship, number one being 'It HAS to be something rather twisted.' But that's just me. XD; Tina δ 18:15, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Once all the sensible ships are covered, it's inevitable to go crazy from there. Which ships have dumb names anyway? --FabuVinny T-C-S 18:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

"HandymanShipping",...-うずまき ハルカ 18:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Tracey does lots of odd jobs around the Gym just because Daisy asks him to. --FabuVinny T-C-S 20:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

All of Brocks Ships have bad names. Cerberus 21:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Really? BoulderShipping, FatherShipping, GymShipping... I dunno, those are good names.. Tina δ 21:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

There are just 5 Shippings with good names: PalletShipping, PokéShipping, ContestShipping, GymShipping and AdvanceShipping. -うずまき ハルカ 21:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I agre with her, but I will add Rocketshiping to that. Cerberus 01:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm beginning to get really confused by all the ship names. Why do we favor one ship title over another? Just because it's more "popular"? Shipping is just a weird part of the site in general, but why do we need to reference some list (incomplete list of shippers)? A lot of it is so arbitrary and almost embarrassing to list on the site as an article title. Could I make a suggestion that maybe we change the naming convention so it simply lists the characters involved in the title? i.e. "Shipping:Ash/Misty". That way there's less explanation needed and we avoid awkward situations like the guy who stumbled upon ThirdWheelShipping and didn't expect it to be a homosexual ship. --Greengiant 21:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

That might work, by the way I was that guy. Cerberus

I'm thinking maybe add the names of the characters to the shipping redirect. TTEchidnaGSDS! 01:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I aprove. Cerberus

These are the titles the fandom uses so of course we have to use them. If you want to check what a ship is called, go check the list. --FabuVinny T-C-S 01:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


If for example Dawn sates that she is a lesbian, will that slam the lid on PearlShipping? Cerberus 16:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)☆

I really think that'd never happen. No other character (Except maybe Harley. Just in a different way.) have screamed 'I'M GAY' or 'I'M STRAIGHT'. Tina δ 17:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

We are talking hypificaly here. And I agre Harly's gay. Cerberus 17:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Why would Dawn ever state that she is or is not a lesbian? Romance is a minor part of this show. There is no reason for the sexuality of the characters to ever come up.
Plus, why single out PearlShipping anyway? The only thing that will slam it down is if another ship involving Dawn is confirmed as canon and that will count against all the others as well. --FabuVinny T-C-S 20:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Forget it. Cerberus 21:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Overall Goals?

Can I get an example of a really good shipping article? Something to work toward and emulate for other pages?

Also, someone mentioned ways to get the pages more encyclopedic? Are there any other suggestions?

As far as evidence lists go, I do think that the pages are focused a bit too much on them. It makes them all seem like little fan pages, and some of them are beyond a stretch of the imagination. I also think an important thing to note is that Japanese fansites focus far less of "evidence." Their fanart and fanfiction deals with an idealized situation of what it would be like for the characters to be together. Although the coupling would never work in canon--something that American sites seem to be out to "prove" could work--the Japanese seem to ignore all that.

What would the articles be if you took out the evidence? I think that's a big question we need to ask ourselves. Not to say that should happen, but there should be a bigger reason for them, I think. --Greengiant 21:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I have no Idea. Cerberus 01:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
We'd still have the evidence, just not in full lists. Articles on canon ships would discuss the actual events that show the nature of the ship. Articles on fanon ships would simply state why some fans are convinced that the writers are going that way. --FabuVinny T-C-S 01:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes fan Ships, I have a great Fan Ship in my Sandbox. Cerberus


I think Pikachu should have a Ships with category. Cerberus 18:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

It's good. うずまき ハルカ 19:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

i mean Thee should be "Ships with pikachu" Cerberus

Got it Paul and J! it's perfit. Cerberus

Rules on new page

I was wondering, what is the rule on creating a new shipping page? Can anyone create one? I want to create a shipping page for Dawn's Piplup x Ash's Pikachu (which I have named BubbleSparkShipping). I saw nothing in the article, and figured this was the best place to ask... The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 19:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

You just need to have some good hints. Not too stupid, and please, more than 3 lines in an article would be good, altough some shipping articles have less than this...うずまきハルカ 01:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Ash's Pikachu/Dawn's Piplup is actually called LightningPearlshipping, for the record. ArcToraphim 20:39, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
(Is tempted to ignore that) Thanks for the info... The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 20:41, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
You can ignore it...but if you did create the page under BubbleSpark, then I'd be forced to change it, to keep to standard as ordained by the List. And then you won't like that, and will attempt to revert it. It'll turn into an edit war, and if no one catches us right away, you'll come to my talk page to bitch, you'll realize this isn't the first time I had to fight for the Standard 'shipping name, and I've won each time because the List is what's considered "correct" by officialdom. So you can try. I'm just warning you if you do ignore it. ...We keep things standard for a reason, I hope you can understand. ArcToraphim 12:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Who the heck decides on these names? Just this one person that makes this "list"? --ケンジガール 07:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Priority of time decides. Submit a name first, or show you named such and such before a submission is made, that name becomes it. ...It's a process. All names are made by the people and the controller of the list is the one responsible for officiating the names. It's just a matter of common use and "who named it first" that makes a name "official". Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 17:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I was wondering. If I were to write an article on HeartSoulshipping (EthanXLyra), would the Lyra/Ethan's hesitation to reply to the "infamous" Day care lady line (in HG & SS) count as evidence? I think that all player characters and their childhood friends should have ships. And we need an article for Soulsilvershipping (SilverXLyra). Desukaan563, with a pokedex of over 380! 12:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


Neoshipping is a popular shipping, especially among Rocketshippers, yet there is no page. I couldn't make this, as I do not know of any hints (seeing of my lack of watching episodes with Cassidy And Butch)

Could someone make this? SD13 Simpsondude13>SD13 Talk 22:07, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


Can I join? When it comes to shipping, I can really help out and i really like a lot of ships. Well, I think I know a shippy scene when I see one, like when I saw DP 106 on YouTube, I saw the scene with Ash saving Dawn and I went to the Pearl Shipping page to put it there......only to see that somebody had already done that. So?--DRAGONBEASTX 01:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Anyway, since it seems like all I have to do is sign on the project page, okay, I'll sign and try my best on helping the project.--DRAGONBEASTX 05:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

New Shipping

I've anilized Pikachu and Ash and my "reserch" has come up with many theories, the best one being that there is a new shipping there! I mean think about it, Pikachu not staying in the Poké Ball, Ash's lack of crushes on females and males, the fact that they can't be apart... and when you add evidence from The Electric Tale of Pikachu, one episode details, and the movies this has the potential to become one of the longest shippings on Bulbipedia!--Spriting-princess 02:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Then I suggest you look into this. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 03:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
ShockHopShipping (Buneary and Pikachu) and something for Ash and Angie. I am |\/| | Z Z | |\| G Y 3 Z 00:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
LagomorphShipping and MorpheusShipping The Dark Fiddler - 10% Satisfaction Guaranteed! 00:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Seriously, do your research. "ShockHopShipping" doesn't even exist on Google, and that's rare. ~ sol 00:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


I was thinking of starting a CheekyShipping article (MiraXMax/MiruXMasato, whichever). This would be acceptable, yes? シンジShinjiLover,Edits 00:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

You can, but it's going to fall very short as an appropriate article, considering its nevermet status; it wouldn't be any larger than the OutcryShipping article. I prefer focus on the 'ships that need articles rather than everyone's small pet 'ships, but there's not much stopping you from doing it anyway. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 18:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


It's the shipping of AshXShaymin. This is a popular shipping that no one has made an article about. Tsukaiz

It's semi-popular, yes. But so are many pairings; May/Manaphy was popular around the time of the ninth movie, yet there's not article about it. The fact that there is no article simply means no one's bothered to make one. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 15:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


Well, there were a lot of hints through DP110 and DP111, for RileyXDawn or RileyXAsh. I believe RileyXAsh would be a good shipping. What would it be named? IronShipping? Tandra88 01:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)tandra88

It's called AuraProtectShipping. Riley and Dawn is called IronWillShipping. --ケンジガール 02:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok..thank you. Tandra88 12:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)tandra88

Reggie and Maylene

Is their an article for the ship between Reggie and Maylene? It is pretty popular especailly for the supporters of Ikarishipping. Is it called Curtainshipping? Mudkipluvr4ever 23:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

It is and there /was/ an article, but it was removed due to not enough content to support it, leaving it eternally a stub. Support alone isn't enough to base a article off. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 23:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Okay thanks, just wanted to know. Also i started a Johtofestashipping article on my userpage at User:Mudkipluvr4ever/johtofestashipping, please check it out. Mudkipluvr4ever 00:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Ah, good. Would you allow me permission to edit it some? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 00:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Totally, go for it. Also I couldn't find a picture so maybe you could? Mudkipluvr4ever 01:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey I started a Nekoshipping page at User:Mudkipluvr4ever/Nekoshipping, please check it out. Mudkipluvr4ever 19:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


Has anyone ever heard of Dewshipping? LatiosxBianca (Pokemon Heros)? it's a semi-popular ship. Culd i make a page for Dewshipping? And what do u all think about the ship? - unsigned comment from emovampire1 (talkcontribs)

Sigs are timestamped to the entry; going back to add it after a considerable amount of time only puts an off-time timestamp (if you don't within the first minute, you might as well not sign it at all). Anyway, the popularity of a 'ship isn't important; without evidence, it's just a stub and unfounded what-have-yous. It's also a movie 'ship, which we're removing and making one article for the 'ships that do not involve main characters. If you /wish/ to contribute anything for it that's sound, post it here: User_talk:ArcToraphim/List_of_movie_shippings more less in the formatting found on the article itself. If the info is good, it can be included. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 00:12, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

kk - unsigned comment from emovampire1 (talkcontribs)


What about againstshipping (paulxzoey)? I didn't know we didn't have an article on that. Could i make it? What's going 4 it:

Lotsa fandom they r almost always in the same ep. w/ each other. and more.- unsigned comment from emovampire1 (talkcontribs)

When signing, just use the four tilde (~~~~), okay? Starting from now, I mean. Don't go changing your unsigned comments. Just...from now on, use the tilde.
As for Againstshipping, there's no point in an article. They met in two episodes at most, and she talked to him once. No amount of hints you could pull from the Snowpoint episode would give you an article that's worth it. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 22:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


could i start that article? Thanx - unsigned comment from emovampire1 (talkcontribs)

Only if you're sure you're able to handle it. That, and you should take a page from Mudkipluvr4ever and start the article here: User:emovampire1/PokéSilverShipping And once it's good enough, it can be moved to the 'Shipping space. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 22:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Sarushipping & Kuroshipping

I and my friends Kate & Wiebke inveted two new shippings Sarushipping ambipom and Boappu & Kuroshipping Paul and Shooti - unsigned comment from TeamMirage (talkcontribs)

Kuroshipping is Touya/Cheren, Vorpalshipping is Paul/Shuuti, and Sarushipping is Chimchar/Monferno/Infernape. Meaning you need a new name for Ambipom/Baoppu. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 19:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


I'm not sure if it's under a different name or just doesn't exist, but don't you think there should be a page for Brock and Nurse Joy and/or Officer Jenny? --BeeBwakka 00:24, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Considering his primary reaction to them does warrant something, as a lone article, it may not be enough to be longer than a stub. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 00:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Then maybe there should be a combined article for shippings that are notable but not worthy of an article on their own. --Bee § Bwakka♂ (meh talk) 22:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
There is going to be a Brock-centric shipping page, given the women he's been in contact with. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 23:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

An Idea

Hey, I thought that maybe on Anime Characters (and maybe game ones, too) pages could have, in the related articles, some links to major ships concerning them? I think that would be really useful, but agian, only maybe less than 10 major ships, otherwise Ash's page might have more than 750 links! What do u think? The only problem would be deciding which ships, but we could have a redirect to other ships not mentioned. I think ships of the being in question with current anime characters (if in the anime) should come first, plus major ships E.G. Pokéshipping, PalletShipping. Just wondering. ----Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth (talk) 07:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

That would be up to Kenji. While there are certain 'ships that are already linked to, such as Admiration, Lagomorph, and Backshipping, they're linked to only because they're in-depth to a character's, well, character. Meaning there's no point to linking to any 'ships on Ash's page, unless the reason is to explain that several girls (Angie, Anabel, Macy) and pokémon have canon crushes on him. This may or may not include Pokéshipping, and likely, it won't (the rest are out of the question). Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 00:09, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Would NegaiShipping (Ash <3 Iris) be linked to Iris's page, cause it does show some of her personality? ----Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth (talk) 06:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
It's not apart of her overall character. If Iris had an active crush on Ash, yes, it would be linked to her page (Brianna, Angie, Jackson, Georgio) but it's not. She doesn't. And it shouldn't be linked to her page. Advance and Pearl shouldn't be linked to May and Dawn's pages either. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 21:45, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Another idea

Hey, on the main page, I think it would be useful for shippers to have a "Shipping" Section, like we have a Anime,Magna, Games, etc. It can take forever to find the ships u r looking for, so I think we need better organization of ships. This would be so helpful, and I think would enhance Bulbapedia greatly. Just another Idea by ----Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth (talk) 12:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

While that would be useful, Shipping itself isn't as encyclopedic as people seem to imagine (while it certainly is by fandom alone, it's speculative nature in 9 out of 10 cases isn't). We're the back room project. People who find their way here are people who specifically search shipping out, and it's better that way. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 14:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

It seems to me...

That Domino and Giovanni should have a shipping article. Does anyone else see this, and if so, what would it be called and can I write an article for it?Bulbamelia 00:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC) Also, Jun and Mitsumi from DP AdventuresBulbamelia 01:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Giovanni/Domino (CommandShipping) doesn't generate enough hints for its own article. As an entry on a bigger article, that would most likely be its fate. As for Jun/Mitsumi, I don't know, because I know nothing about DPA. If you want to start your own article on Jun and Mitsumi, I suggest creating a page called User:Bulbamelia/LakeAcuityShipping and then go from there. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 02:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've only read like one volume of DPA, so I'm probably not the best person, also, I don't even know how to create a page.Bulbamelia 11:41, 19 April 2011 (UTC) If Commandshipping were an entry on a larger article, what article would that be? Is there an article called "list of movie ships?"

The best evidence for Commandshipping I've found so far (apart from obvious stuff like that she is on a first name basis with him, can get away with talking back, etc.) is this: There is a girl named Domino in the James Bond novel Thunderball. She is an italian actress who works for and is the mistress of (ie. sleeps with) Emilio Largo, the villain of the novel. Giovanni's Persian is already a sly James Bond reference to Blofeld's cat, so this more or less seems as good evidence for the ship as any. But I agree, it is hardly anything to go on. It would be nice if the ship had a description listing these hints somewhere on the wiki, though, I agree.. --Worsian 16:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

No article for CrystalShipping yet?

Sorry, but I couldn't find the forum topic for this. The link on the Project Shipping page only leads to the General Forum, not a specific topic. I clicked around there and used the search bar, but I still couldn't find this topic.

Anyways, I was looking through the list of shipping articles, and I'm shocked that there isn't even a stub or a suggestion for a CrystalShipping (EusinexKris/Crystal/Lyra) article. Can I write an article for it? I'm already putting together a list of evidence from the games and Pokemon Adventures (I would separate the evidence for the games and the evidence for Pokemon Adventures of course), and the list is actually pretty large, certainly enough to warrant CrystalShipping having its own article as I've seen other shippings that have far less evidence than what I have gathered.

Magenta Fantasies (talk) 05:07, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Magenta Fantasies (talk) 05:05, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, that's actually tricky and somewhat problematic. For the record, Eusine/Lyra is not Crystalshipping (it's Ginsuishoushipping; it's fact they aren't the same person) and I'll tell you why, in this instance, that you're better off only writing for the manga, with a footnote for Eusine/Kris sharing the same name. Game!Crystalshipping, Ginsuishoushipping, and GoldenCrystal (Ethan/Eusine) all share the same hints. Any ship including one player character (barring with the other PC) has to include all analogous characters, which means you aren't just writing for game!Crystal, but GoldenCrystal and Ginsuishou, too. Now, if you still want to write for the game version, it would go on this page, under something like "List of side character ships," and it would be accepted if the hint percentage is adequate (because the PC/PC and PC/rival 'ships are there as a courtesy).
Why this is is because you can't just write something for one player character and only have it apply to that player character, maybe except with Yancy and Curtis, who might treat the PCs differently. Eusine is the same whether the character is Kris, Lyra, or Ethan, thus any hints he and the player have is universal, which is bigger than just Eusine/one of them...and this wouldn't be much of a problem, except EusinexCrystal/Kris share the same name. So both cases would need to be split between two pages, or simply mentioned on only one.
So if you want to start a manga!Crystal article, start it at User:Magenta Fantasies/CrystalShipping and show me when you think you got a good chunk. =) And if you still want to do Eusine/PC, mention so and we'll see what you got for it before throwing it up on the page. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 13:28, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

I would be willing to work on articles for Game!CrystalShipping/GinsuishouShipping/GoldenCrystalShipping as well as Manga!CrystalShipping.

As far as the game shippings go, the set-up could be something like this: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shipping:SoulSilverShipping#HunterShipping_.2F_RedemptionShipping_.2F_SoulSilverShipping with a "See also: CrystalShipping (manga)" (which would be on its own page, in the same way that PreciousMetalShipping and SpecialJewelShipping have their own pages separate from RedemptionShipping/HunterShipping/SoulSilverShipping). Magenta Fantasies (talk) 18:32, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

That would be the thing, though. Since the protag 'ships can't have their own article (just a subsection of the page you and I linked to), CrystalShipping would not be tagged (manga). CrystalShipping and Shipping:CrystalShipping would be the manga article by default, and at the top, there would be the {{samename}} template, linking to the game version subsection on the game ships page, since you can't have a full article page named "GoldCrystalShipping/CrystalShipping/GinsuishouShipping;" that's impossible. But again, a section for the game!ship would only be acceptable if the hints to go with it are sound. Otherwise, the knowledge that Eusine/Kris is also called Crystalshipping would just go into the trivia section, and that'll be that. So when you think you got hints for the game!version, post them on my talk page and we'll sort them out. Okay? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 22:34, 8 February 2013 (UTC)


Can I write an article for AbsurdistShipping (Diamond/Pearl) (Pokémon Adventures), or at least create a user page for it? I'm quite surprised there isn't one already, given the number of hints in both chapters they've appeared in. And please... don't start complaining that yaoi shouldn't exist. I've seen some people do that on other talk pages, and frankly, it's annoying. YOLO~ (talk) 17:23, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

You should probably ask a project leader on their talk page like it says in the project page. Musicjax (talk) 12:10, 12 April 2015 (UTC)


I'm going to get a head start on one of my favorite ships: SnowpointShipping. If anybody has any evidence/pictures, please tell me! ♪♥AbsolSnow6 (talk) 22:54, 26 February 2013 (UTC)♥♪


Shouldn't someonXsomeone be a redirect to a ship? (Someone means the person/Pokèmon that is being shipped) Musicjax (talk) 12:58, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


So, while the two characters were on screen together for all of about 10 seconds, myself and several of my friends strongly ship Hunter J and Saturn- so much so that we even coined the name of the ship ourselves! I know there is literally no 'proof' of this anywhere in the anime but it would be nice for others, besides us, to discuss it and maybe even strike up more of an interest in it? Or perhaps the little scene that the two shared on screen could be considered MILD proof as Saturn congratulated J on a job well done and showed genuine shock and concern when her ship was blasted out of the sky (RIP J). The only fanart that exists of the ship is my own and the odd doodle that my friends have exchanged through Twitter but it's an interesting ship, nonetheless, and I hope to draw more attention to it. If anyone wants to make a page thingy for this ship then please do and know that you will have my eternal gratitude! LetitiaLemon (talk) 00:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

How is this appropriate?

How is this allowed on Bulbapedia, it's speculation at best. If someone says something like "it is part of fandom and is regularly discussed" well so is the Ash's Coma theory but there isn't an article on that so if this is allowed why isn't that?Ratchet and Clank 1995 (talk) 10:43, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

It's a very significant part of the fandom, which is part of what Bulbapedia is supposed to cover. Ash's coma's importance to the fandom is nowhere near comparable to shipping's (though a case might be possible for having that article...). There's (a LOT of!) room for improvement, but shipping is staying.--Evil Figment (talk) 13:51, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Links to fanfiction sites

Should I add links to fanfiction sites in the external links section of the pairings (e.g. here's a link listing RocketShipping fanfiction stories on fanfiction.net)?--Arisboch (talk) 18:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)


Hello, I created a page for the shipping between Ruby and Courtney in Pokémon Adventure on my sandbox.

I have not an hight level of English, so I must have made some languages mistakes, but I think that this ship deserved is own page. LIEM (Talk with me) 09:23, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

How do I start

Hello, I've used Bulbapedia a lot over the years, but I've only just now made an account. I'm not sure how to do much on this site, but I would like to contribute like adding on to pages and creating new pages. For example, I would like to add a page about the relationship between Professor Oak and Agatha since there's a fair bit of evidence in the games. When I tried to make a page though, it said that I do not have permission to create this page. Does anyone have advice for a newcomer? - unsigned comment from Kraken626 (talkcontribs)

We're actually considering pairing down our Shipping section, so a better idea may be attempting to flesh out sections of Agatha and Professor Oak's pages, with supporting information that illustrates their relationship over the years. --Spriteit (talk) 11:05, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Bulbapedia and Shipping

Since this has been on the table for a while I thought I'd give people an update on the current plan regarding Shipping pages. The overall plan is a lot of them are getting axed, we had a list of criteria about what pages get to stay and which ones are getting merged. Basically, everything will be getting moved out of the Shipping namespace and in the end, only three pages will remain as standalone pages. PokéShipping, RocketShipping, and AmourShipping. All of these have had effects on the fandom that transcend the base anime. Most other pages will be merged into a catch-all list for anime, and another for manga. Pages like canon ships and nevermetships will be deleted entirely, canon ships aren't shipping, it's lore, and as such should be represented on the character pages. Nevermetships are entirely speculation and belong on the forums, which is where we are recommending anyone who has particularly strong ties to the community to go and engage with other community members.

Mainspacing - List of major animes ships, PokéShipping, RocketShipping, Shipping
Moving - All Shipping namespaces will be moved to their mainspace names, from there they will be redirected to the relevant list, this way the page history is preserved.
Deleting - Any Ships deemed non-notable will be deleted.
Talk pages - All pages that remain will have a message pointing future Shippers to the forums for discussion and be open to suggestings still from users.
Categories - All but the top-level Shipping category will be deleted.
To improve - Amourshipping will need to be updated to the new style and a list combining the manga ships will be created.

I am aware this may upset some of our users who are passionate about the shipping scene, I'm sorry. I recommend migrating to the Shippers' Paradise subforum. I wanted to post here to let any interested parties know before I started the process. Feel free to post comments and questions and I'll try to address them. --Spriteit (talk) 04:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

As a small addendum, since the Shipping namespace and most ships have now been removed, this project will be deprecated. It now fits easily within Project Fandom. Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:09, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Journey Shippings

I'm no expert on making articles but I was wondering if an article can be made for Chloe and Goh and Ash and Chloe.--BigDocFan (talk) 09:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Noticed a few pages using the old "Shipping:" namespace

Shipping:CrystalShipping, for instance. Are those supposed to be there? It doesn't seem like they were created/recreated recently, and it conflicts with the decision to delete all but three of the ship pages.

They also have a lot of redlinks to ship pages that no longer exist, so it looks like they might have been overlooked somehow during the mass deletion. Andre1070 (talk) 17:26, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

They weren't overlooked, it was more I was the sole person running the project and life had happened. --Spriteit (talk) 11:59, 15 March 2022 (UTC)