Talk:Pokkén Tournament

New Screenshots

While searching through GameXplain's YouTube channel, I found this. Thought this would be of good use here. Still waiting on their analysis, though... Aidanzapunk (talk) 15:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Offical Japanese website

Which is the official Japanese website of Pokkén Tournament? This one or this one? --Yen01 (talk) 09:19, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Considering how I don't read Japanese, it's hard for me to tell, because they both could be official (emphasis on could). Let me see if I can get someone to tell me which one it is. Aidan the Aura Master 12:03, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

...actually, going off of the URL names, I'd say the first one. Aidan the Aura Master 12:05, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

They're both official. Note that the blue box after the video on the first site links to the second site. --Abcboy (talk) 18:16, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks! So which link we put into the article doesn't matter, right? --Yen01 (talk) 11:13, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

In all honesty, I say put both. Aidan the Aura Master 15:37, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I didn't check Abcboy's edit when I said that. --Yen01 (talk) 16:06, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

So

Y'all need to catch up on this stuff. Aidan the Aura Master 03:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

And you need to watch the attitude. If you want to inform us about it, don't be so condescending, please. Ataro (talk) 05:33, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm just saying, at the time I put that up, it was HOURS after a huge Pokken Tournament stream (which is when Gengar was announced), and I would've assumed this page would be updated by then. Guys over here tend to take care of this stuff almost immediately, so I don't see why you guys can't either. Aidan the Aura Master 15:13, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

That's what BulbaNewsNOW is for, and also what you are for. Since you noticed it so quickly, you should help and update the article too. Bulbapedia is a collaborative effort. --Abcboy (talk) 16:27, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Background Pokemon

When the actual game comes out, all the background Pokemon should be divided into sections depending on what stage they're in the background of. Sir Jolteon (talk) 23:51, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Individual Playable Character pages

• Now since the game isn't out for the Wii U just yet, I'm not saying this has to be done now, but anyone think it is a good idea to start making pages for the playable characters (kinda like the ones done for the Pokémon playable in Super Smash Bros. series)? At least starting as a userspace page before moving it to the mainspace? Hey, I'm willing to start one or more myself if need be. I just didn't want to start something I wasn't suppose to at the moment or anything. Or will the playable character information be added to the Pokkén Tournament page instead? I guess in other words, any plans and what are they? ^_^' ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 18:23, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

• Ehh, I got something started with Lucario, hope that doesn't hurt anything.----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 18:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Type?

Actually, does it really have a Type for the character in the games? It doesn't meaningful to add a secondary Type IMO. Raymond 02:41, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

• Not so much a type as it is a style. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 03:31, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Jigglypuff?

I haven't seen her yet as a background character, if she really is one, mind providing proof please? Nintenzilla (talk) 13:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Is the "Gallery" necessary?

Now that the game is out- at least in Japan; should we remove the Gallery section since it doesn't give much information and is based on pre-release material? Superjustinbros. (talk) 02:02, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Pretty sure we have a gallery on most game pages... Me, Hurray! (talk) 21:50, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Shadow Mewtwo Artwork

So someone posted supposedly official artwork of Shadow Mewtwo on Tumblr. Should that be used to replace the generic Sugimori artwork? Or is it too low-res? Does anyone even know where it came from? 'Cuz I can't find it anywhere other than one un-sourced Tumblr post. Me, Hurray! (talk) 21:54, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Looks like it's from Famitsu, but flipped Vienna Waltz (talk) 23:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Character list

I have a few questions about the character list.

1. Is there any way to make it larger? As it stands, the pictures are pretty tiny.
2. Should we put their battling style and/or special moves on their? Serebii has them listed - obviously we aren't Serebii, but it seems like something we'd want to mention. This would also help with point 1.
3. Is there another font color we could use for Chandelure's name that still means "fire-type"? Right now it's impossible to read.

I think that's all. Nutter Butter (talk) 22:12, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Once the game comes out, I expect that each character will eventually have their own page, including their fighting style, movelist, and BURST ability. - Chosen of Mana 01:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

• And if you really want to add information about Pokémon's battle style and/or special moves, I suppose you can search for and see if anyone made a user namespace page for individual Pokémon and see about helping them out or organize the information or something like that. But it will probably be all taken care of once the game actually comes out, I suppose. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 00:22, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Split

Listing 122 Pokémon on the page for a game seems excessive. The Pokémon featured in each arena would fit better on articles for each arena. --Abcboy (talk) 23:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

• I'm guessing that would be done when we have the pages for each arena, when the game comes out. I'm probably stating the obvious, but who knows. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 22:22, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

We're up to 214 now, not counting duplicates (playable and background). There's also Caterpie and Bunnelby on the rides in Diggersby Land, which I think should be included. --KingStarscream (talk) 20:18, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree. I haven't analyzed each area, but it's better split by area. So now we need area pages. CycloneGU (talk) 21:06, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I also agree. It also needs to be cleared up if depictions of the pokemon count, or just the actual pokemon themselves. For example, the Regi trio and Regigigas only show up as statues. Should they be listed? What about pokemon in paintings? etc. Jabberwockxeno (talk) 01:42, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, this should probably happen. The Kami Trio appears in a mural (in their Incarnate Forms) plus there are Caterpie and Bunnelby rides off the top of my head from Diggersby Land. EDIT: Also, there is Marshtomp and a Mega Swampert snowman in Old Ferrum Town Winter. EDIT2: I also just discovered a Mantine Kite flying over Old Ferrum Town AutumnSwiftgallade46 (talk) 01:41, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I think "real" background Pokemon should be primarily noted. It may be okay to note appearances in paintings and stuff, but only separately (perhaps purely as text), and probably only if the background Pokemon are split off somewhere.

As a suggestion, Swiftgallade46, you seem to be finding a lot of background Pokemon. Perhaps you could also devote some time to trying to create a user page for one of the arenas, so that we can develop that and perhaps split the background Pokemon off sooner rather than later. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:48, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to, but I'm not sure how to create a page or how to format it really. Once they go up I'll be happy to continue contributing more background Pokemon, though! (I have 6 more to add already). If you want me to hold off on adding any more until the pages are created, let me know! =] Swiftgallade46 (talk) 04:57, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm just wishing that those who obviously like a game can do everything the game needs doing. =P I'd like to just try and drop off some advice on your talk page (in a while) so maybe you could have a go at making an arena page (and maybe more). (Better there than here, so it can freely develop on its own.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:34, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

More work

This absolutely needs more work due several amounts of details as i have played it myself yesterday, also sub pages of the playable pokemon are needed like Smash versions because these have also details in their abilities and moves. --WikiAldo (talk) 17:27, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

• I've played it too and I even started some pages in the userspace for the Pokémon as mentioned above. You might have to check other user namespace pages if anyone else started any others. Also what we might need is a template of some sort to arrange the moveset and their inputs. I'm not sure how much I can do right away, as I've been a bit busy recently and I still have to figure out a few things on using the code in specific ways. So if someone else figures this out before me, perfect! ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 00:51, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
• Actually, the table issue has sort of been sorted out. And I already started pages on a good majority of the current roster under my namespace. What I got are so far is Blaziken, Charizard, Garchomp, Lucario, Pikachu, Pikachu Libre, Sceptile, Mewtwo, and Shadow Mewtwo. So yeah, feel free to discuss any changes that should be made in the talk pages. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 02:17, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
• And I have the rest of the current roster now: Chandelure, Gengar, Machamp, Weavile, Suicune, Braixen, and Gardevoir. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 21:42, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Dogasu's Backpack

I don't think we should use only Dogasu's Backpack for a scource because it only has Japanese names of characters, not full lists of moves Pokemon can use AND no moves for Sceptile and Chandelure. Because of this, we need another scoure to be used with Dogasu's Backpack. CoolMan6001 (talk) 22:38, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

No one's suggesting it should be our only source, our bible. But if anyone interested in editing the page doesn't have a primary source themselves, then Dogasu's Backpack is an acceptable option/middleground. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

No better source than the game's Pause menu. That beats any Web site. CycloneGU (talk) 02:28, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

And the game's Practice Mode helps go into a lot of detail. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 02:32, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

So each character is getting their own Pokken page, right?

I'm asking because [[1]]

I was debating whether to post character trivia on the article (even if it's temporary), or just wait. Unowninator (talk) 04:16, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, I do have a separate page for Charizard that is being worked on. Technically, the idea of separate pages for each of the Pokémon has been brought up probably about three times now. :P But looking at Charizard's main page, I'm surprised they say that Pokkén trivia should be moved elsewhere when there is currently at least one Super Smash Bros trivia on his main page even though Charizard has a specific page for him in Smash Bros. :/ IDK. But I'd say just wait. I'm not even sure if the Pokkén pages for will have trivia or not. Not yet, anyway. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 20:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Cinnabar Island Trivia

There was previously a Trivia point that was listed about Nia mentioning that she read the Cinnabar Island documents on Mewtwo. I personally agreed that this was an interesting bit of trivia and that it deserved to be listed. The reason given for removing it was...not the best. I'd like to avoid contributing to the edit war that was going on, so it would be cool if a Staff member could give a final say about this. Thanks! =) Swiftgallade46 (talk) 23:24, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

It's "interesting", but it's not actually ideal for this page anyway. The trivia is really about Shadow Mewtwo and/or Cinnabar Island (documents), not so much "the game overall"; it fits much better on pages for those narrower subjects than it does here. It's already on Cinnabar Island. When there's a Shadow Mewtwo page it could also be added there. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:48, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I did not know it was listed elsewhere. Thanks for clearing that up! Swiftgallade46 (talk) 03:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, my Cinnabar Island fact is still gone? I thought I put it back after that guy kept taunting me.

Also, I probably should've mentioned that it happens when fighting him as a boss after advancing to the next league, but I couldn't avoid making it too wordy. Unowninator (talk) 03:11, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Well the reason that was originally given was rude, which is why I brought it up here. But I think Tiddlywinks gave a good reason to leave it out of this specific page for now. I was Just curious as to why it hadn't been put back is all. Swiftgallade46 (talk) 03:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Hasn't it already been said that this specific piece of trivia is not suitable for this particular article? Why is it being put back again, no matter how uncivil the original removal/taunting was? Chenzw (talk) 04:01, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

So Tiddlywinks, this trivia should go on Shadow Mewtwo's page? Because even though it isn't finished, me (or anyone else if necessary) can just add it to the page on my userspace for now. At least then it will be there whenever the page is ready for mainspacing. I feel like any trivia about an individual character on the roster might as well be moved to their own page, even if it still is on my userspace, it will just have to be discussed on their talk page first, at least. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 17:27, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Mewtwo vs Shadow Mewtwo opposites.

I noticed that Mewtwo & Shadow Mewtwo, despite being the same Pokemon, have a lot of opposite characteristics. Here's what I noticed.

Mewtwo	Shadow Mewtwo
Moves consume Synergy Gauge	Moves consume HP
Can only teleport into the air	Teleports onto the ground
Synergy Gauge charges the slowest	Synergy Gauge charges the fastest
Non-damaging counter attack (Barrier) works on the ground, and links into 3 other moves	Non-damaging counter attack (Reflect) works in the air and links into 3 other moves
Burst attack has the lowest reach	Burst attack has the highest reach

Not the best table, but it'll do for now. They also share some of the same attacks, but I have to leave soon, so I'll probably add those later. But anyway, is this worth mentioning? Unowninator (talk) 21:05, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

They also share some of the same, if not similar attacks (But I forgot the names for most of them).

Field phase:

• (Y)
• →(Y)
• (X)
• Grab attack

Duel Phase

• ↑(A) Psystrike
• (Y) + (Y)
• Grab attack
• Midair (Y)
• ↑(X)

Well? Unowninator (talk) 17:26, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Even though they are basically the same species of Pokémon, they are technically two different characters on the roster. Otherwise you might as well do the same for Pikachu and Pikachu Libre. That's what I think, anyway. Plus a lot of this trivia probably would be better for their actual pages when they are done. I've already linked the ones that are on my namespace multiple times on this talk page, so I don't really need to re-post them again. :P ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 22:49, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Did I say "different"? I meant to say "two separate characters", my bad. ;P ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 23:14, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Spoiler warning: this article may contain major plot or ending details.

They're the same Mewtwo. After you beat the final boss, the yellow crystal on its shoulder shatters, and then its black coloring reverts back to normal. But it's clearly 2 different Pikachu thanks to the gender-tail thing.

	Spoilers end here.

Unowninator (talk) 23:24, 9 May 2016 (UTC)