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Contents 1 Polish desc 2 Glitches 3 Houston, we have a sockpuppet... 4 Top Contibutors of The Month for September 5 Ph34r, 6 PKMN PmNp 7 .... 8 Oh... 9 Project TCGDex Reprint Issue Ideas 10 Political Templates 11 Ugh... 12 Bulbapedia:Project User Entertainment? 13 User:Cerberus 14 Smoseph 15 Pokémon Party 16 Grawp 17 Redirects Categorized? 18 Okay... 19 Project Decks 20 Top Contributors of the Month for September 21 Voting 22 Diglettdude911 23 Minor Edits 24 Umumum. 25 feebas 26 Rowan 27 Diglettdude911 28 Mew 29 Migration 30 new fansite 31 RSS Atom 32 Tyranitar (Pokémon) 33 Ph34rshallriseagain! 34 Page Deletion 35 Imagelink 36 Pika! 37 User:Niermak 38 User:Lukas Stone 39 About the newest update. 40 Champion Fight 41 Templates 42 Party 43 Top Contributors of the Month...again 44 Super smash bros. brawl/melee 45 Pokémon.com article 46 Team template? 47 Alternate Coloration 48 MiniDex 49 Missions 50 Bulbapedia:CraterDex???? 51 AnimeDéx Project? 52 Server 53 JohnnyRebel 54 HarukaUzumaki! 55 HELP! 56 Spammers

Polish desc

"Czas podróżować kolczatka australijska (Time Traveling Echidna) od Bulbapedia."
Means: "Time to travel australian echidna (Time Traveling Echidna) from Bulbapedia."
What the f___ is that supposed to mean? You were using electronic translators, weren't you? Bad idea - Polish is a language that you cannot use with translators and do this correct. That sign is a complete nonsense. - Etamitlu 12:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You bet. But I feel like I gotta put something, even if it's badly-translated. TTEchidna 19:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It would be better if it had even bad-translated sense, don't you think? ;) Contact with me. AIM Jerzy232, MSN etamitlu@gazeta.pl. I will translate what you wanted to write. - Etamitlu 19:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

True. I'll do so ASAP. TTEchidna 21:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Glitches

As you may already know, I have been having a SOMEWHAT heated discussion with several other members over the notability of glitches and whether or not they should be such a significant part of Bulbapedia. At first, I found that many glitch articles required cleanup, but then I decided that they were just too useless and irrelevant to bother with. So I marked several for deletion. Yes, I know it was a mistake and you don't need to give me all the reasons why. However, I still believe that articles like Glitchy Charizard and Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur do not deserve their own pages. Fabu-Vinny told me to appeal to a member of the editorial board, and here I am. My suggestion is to move any glitch Pokémon based off a real Pokémon into that Pokémon's trivia section. Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur goes under Bulbasaur's trivia. Then, whatever is left over, like MissingNo., can be merged into one fairly big article, List of Glitch Pokémon. On that list, we can have a short description of each. See what you think.

Important enough to put on your talk page? -Politoed666

Oh yes, very important enough to put on my talk page. Anyway, glitchy Charizard, sure, that should possibly be merged into the Charizard article, or at least mentioned. What'd be better is if glitchy Charizard were on the list of glitch Pokémon. Same with invisible shiny Bulbasaur: it should be mentioned in Bulbasaur's article that its call is used for ISB because ISB is apparently index #000 while Bulbasaur's index #001. Likewise, ?????????? should be mentioned on Slowpoke's page, and ? should be mentioned on Unown's page, because they use the same calls.

I do, however, think that MissingNo. should be kept separate, or merged into an article with 'M. They're by far the most famous glitch Pokémon, and just being a section of a greater list is like saying Caterpie doesn't deserve its own article because it sucks and has no use until it's a Butterfree.

An article with a list of glitch moves and what they do wouldn't hurt, either... but certainly not separate articles. I dunno, Argy and Pie are the style editors, so I'll bring it up to them. We'll see what we can do. TTEchidna 00:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Very good. It's nice to see someone who thinks that's a good idea. Have you brought it up with the style editors yet? -Politoed666

Had class all week, and I've not been very able to talk to Pie or Argy as they haven't been on AIM. I'll get to it right away. TTEchidna 01:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

...cough... -Politoed666

Yeah, I talked to Pie, she thinks that it's a good idea. TTEchidna 04:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Great. So, what are we gonna do with all the glitch articles? Tons of 'em need improvement and it's going to take a lot to do this. Should we make a project for it or start ourselves? What's our course of action? -Politoed666

A project would be a good idea. Perhaps use that for the articles now, and then later we'll determine their merge status. TTEchidna 02:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but do you think you could make the project? ...I have no idea how. I'll start then. -Politoed666

Houston, we have a sockpuppet...

Yep, Samrulz123 has created a sockpuppet, Samrulz1234, to evade the last two days of his one-week block. I trust you know what to do...--Shiningpikablu252 01:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Samrulz123 just spammed my talk page... Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 02:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I've warned him. TTEchidna 03:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 03:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Top Contibutors of The Month for September

Sorry to bother you with a stupid question, but when will the Top Contributors of the Month thing be updated? --Theryguy512 23:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Zhen's the one in charge of doing that. TTEchidna 00:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. I was the one who put in the information about how the calculation is actually made and corrected it, if you check the history on that page. It's still not clear how that claim actually arose. Reuvens 12:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. TTEchidna 02:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ph34r,

Looks like a new Ph34r wannabe has joined Bulbadia. Ph34r,. He recentely edited Template:Harley's Pokémon and wrote in "This page has been taken over by Ph34r, Down with Bulbapedia!" But he quickly reverted his edits and said "Sorry bout that, I guess I've overeacted..."

I don't know if he's serious or he's just being a smart ass. Anyway, I thought you might like to know. --☆ケンジガール 07:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it affect all of Harley's Pokémon, even Harley himself! Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 10:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, as always, I'm ready to stop him! --Theryguy512 11:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I can just imagine on this talk page: "The page has been taken over by Pichu Lover, Up With TTE!"... But seriously, we need to stop them if they start again. Gazco !!!! ^{my page|Talk} 17:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hrm... TTEchidna 18:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I can't believe that I'm announcing this to the world, but can you ban those sockpuppets I made (just please, don't ban me!) Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 01:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

If you never do it again, we won't have to. TTEchidna 01:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay... (My sis created an acc, but she never used it. I think it was Torchic something something something...) Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 01:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. TTEchidna 01:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I was wondering what the name was so that she could log in again... Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 01:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Check out the User creation log. TTEchidna 01:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

PKMN PmNp

Which of these looks better?

I support
^Pm_NpVersions!

^P_K^M_NPmNp

--Shiny Noctowl^{Talk|Contribs} 22:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ummm... the second's more manageable. TTEchidna 00:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I would count the first one as spamming if I was an admin, but the second one looks fine. Gazco !!!! ^{my page|Talk} 19:22 7 October 2007

....

What the heck did I do?

You kept putting the same message over and over on Optimus35's talk page. If it was a browser error, I can understand, but you'd better apologize to him if that was the case. TTEchidna 04:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I wonder how he did that... Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 06:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh...

Oh yeah, my laptop was going really slow today so when I tried to put a message in it wouldn't work(i thought). I don't know how many I must have put in, but I gave up after a few tries...

Maybe your internet tubes were clogged. Either way, wait for the page to load. TTEchidna 04:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I waited long enough!

How long is long enough? Was the bar still loading? TTEchidna 04:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the bar only had one little square in it after like three minutes. I tried to press on the save page again and the bar dissapeard. It seems to be ok now though...

Letting it load is a good thing. Switch to another tab and let it load. TTEchidna 06:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Project TCGDex Reprint Issue Ideas

I've come up with something that just might solve the reprint issue plauging Project TCGDex. I've put the format up on two Trainer card articles up already, here they are:

• Here Comes Team Rocket!
• Rare Candy

Simply put, that "thick line" (actually an empty row) separates release info for individual prints of the cards that appear in multiple sets. Of course, there are a few cards where this wouldn't be practical (Potion for instance), but that's nothing a table under "Release Information" won't fix. What do you think of it?

(Oh, and if you think synchronizing the names for the Project TCGDex articles for the first three sets with the later-released sets is absolutely necessary, say the word and I'm on it.) --Shiningpikablu252 20:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

That's the way I was thinking of handling it originally, actually, just mentioning all sets where the card with the same text and function is released, even with alternate art, but have the main article be the first release of the card.

And the first three sets... eh. We're dealing with it. We won't move them just yet, because there's still some disagreement, but don't worry. Once we get all of it resolved, you'll know. ...and I hope that's soon... TTEchidna 21:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Can I become a member of projet Decks- I've seen a lot of deck archytypes on Pokébeach plus, I can help with world championship decks. A cople of days ago, I made the Dark Tyranitar page.-Groudon465 2:50 p.m., 13 October 2007 (CT)

Anyone can be a member of any project. Also, you need to CATEGORIZE NEW PAGES. TTEchidna 22:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Political Templates

I come to you knowing you'll be fairly level-headed about this...I hope. What do you think about political user tags (I mean, we've already got religions)? Not many, just

	This user is a Republican.

and

	This user is a Democrat.

. If you have a better picture for the democrat one, let me know.

-Politoed666

Hmmm... well, it can get kinda complicated there. Remember, the Republican/Democrat duality is only in the US, unlike religions, which are worldwide things... TTEchidna 00:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Why not "liberal" and "conservative"? Look at these:

	This user is a Liberal.

	This user is a Republican.

Hmm... perhaps. We'll need it to have customizable colors, of course, and absolutely must have one for people who stand in the middle. TTEchidna 02:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Look at these better templates:

	This user is liberal.

	This user is conservative.

--Shiny Noctowl^{Talk | Contribs} 02:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Pretty good, but the colors could be better, and it certainly shows a bit of bias on the part of the chosen Pokémon. TTEchidna 02:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

• cough* white template *cough* :) I think the bright red is hard on the eyes though - especially on the bug-green ones :( TinaTheKirlia ♥ 02:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

You know, Tina, I wouldn't really mind if you moved your white color subpage to the template namespace, so long as you made it fit with {{Dark color}} and the others. TTEchidna 02:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Huh, really? Hmmm.. I think I'll do that! (I didn't make it an official template, because it wasn't a type or anything but I'll just stick it in the colors. :P) TinaTheKirlia ♥ 02:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Works for me! TTEchidna 02:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, then. First off, I suggest that we use liberal and conservative as opposed to Democrat and Republican. Secondly, although I tend to lean toward liberal standpoints, I think we need to pick a fair Pokémon for each side. {[p|Togekiss}} seems like a fairly good idea for liberals, although it's hard to say why. I'll stick with Phanpy for conservatives. Also, I'll make other templates for User Communist, User Green Party, User Fedaralist, etc. TTE, Tina, and Shiny Noctowl, do I have your approval for

	This user is a Liberal.

and

	This user is a Republican.

? -Politoed666

Hmmm.. sounds good to me! TinaTheKirlia ♥ 21:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be

	This user is liberal.

and

	This user is conservative.

? --Shiny Noctowl^{Talk | Contribs} 21:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Shoot, you're right. -Politoed666

Shouldn't there be a tag for people who can't vote yet?--Vladek 22:15, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

It's for what you would vote if you could. I can't vote either (I'm only 13). --Shiny Noctowl^{Talk | Contribs} 22:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, just because someone can't vote doesn't mean that they don't have poitical viewpoints. Think about it. -Politoed666

There. I've made the templates, at {{User Liberal}} and {{User Conservative}}. I also made a category for all political tags, Political tags. --Shiny Noctowl^{Talk | Contribs} 22:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Ugh...

Since nobody else is going to take the initiative on this, and since I hope for eventual administratorship, I'll take care of the TCG "List" problems. It'll take awhile, though. Should I start out with the Supporter Card one or the Stadium one? -Politoed666

Also, someone should update the supporter cards. Mysterious Treasures is out and the list only goes up to EX Crystal Guardians?! -Politoed666

You do the Supporter one, I'll do the Stadium one after I've patrolled Recent Changes. TTEchidna 22:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Here I go. -Politoed666

Finished. TTEchidna 00:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm done, too. There isn't a "list of all Pokémon cards" article, is there...? Oh, and if you have anything else for me to do, just ask. -Politoed666

Not that I know. TTEchidna 01:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Bulbapedia:Project User Entertainment?

Can you please tell User:Shiny Noctowl and User:Optimus35 that Bulbapedia:Project User Entertainment is a really bad idea? --Theryguy512 13:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I know, for God's sake! I told Shiny that we should keep it to ourselves!

Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 13:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I moved it to User:Shiny Noctowl/User Entertainment Project. --Shiny Noctowl^{Talk | Contribs} 13:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

We're extremely sorry for the inconvinience caused, TTE...

Agent 448^{Talk | DP} 14:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Cerberus

Can you please ban Cerberus? He keeps on spamming Super Smash Bros. Brawl. --Theryguy512 00:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

He's seemingly been warned on his talk page... if he does any more, I'll be sure to. TTEchidna 00:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you --Theryguy512 00:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Smoseph

Got another edition of "Bulbapedia's Most Unfunny Vandals" for you. I caught Smoseph removing content from Shipping:AppealShipping for no reason. I've reverted the vandalism, but fear he might strike again. Can something be done? --Shiningpikablu252 01:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

If he strikes again, something shall. TTEchidna 04:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Ooo ooo I want to nut him PichuLover

Pokémon Party

Hey TTE, if you're not too busy can you please convert this information into table things that people have as i have tried to but failed miserably. (I am rubbish with all the computer stuff)

Gible Lv100 ♂ Tackle - Dragon Claw - Slash - Dragon Rush

Alakazam Lv80 ♂ Psychic - Recover Flash - Psybeam

Dialga Lv 70 ♂ Heal Block - Ancient Power - Dragon Claw - Roar of Time

Pikachu Lv 50 ♀ Charge Beam - Thunder Wave - Thunderbolt - Thunder

Gastriodon Lv 50 ♀ Hidden Power - Surf - Body Slam - Muddy Water

Infernape Lv 50 ♂ Flame Wheel - Flamethrower - Ember - Close Combat

Many thanks, Your number one fan, PichuLover

Pokémon		Level	Gender	Moves
	Gible	100	♂	Tackle	Dragon Claw	Slash	Dragon Rush
	Alakazam	80	♂	Psychic	Recover	Flash	Psybeam
	Dialga	70	None	Heal Block	AncientPower	Dragon Claw	Roar of Time
	Pikachu	50	♀	Charge Beam	Thunder Wave	Thunderbolt	Thunder
	Gastrodon	50	♀	Hidden Power	Surf	Body Slam	Muddy Water
	Infernape	50	♂	Flame Wheel	Flamethrower	Ember	Close Combat

Have a blast with it. TTEchidna 23:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks dude you rock PichuLover

Grawp

Can you block him, please? I asked Pak Man to, but I can't tell if he did or not. -Politoed666

Okay, he says he did. Thanks anyway. -Politoed666

Good, good... TTEchidna 00:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirects Categorized?

Should I categorize redirects? I haven't so far, and no one else has done it, but, just to be safe... -Politoed666

Actually, I've categorized a few redirects corresponding to VS cards. I categorized those redirects so that the VS versions are the ones reflected in the unreleased cards category as opposed to a version that saw English release.

Of course, if TTEchidna doesn't think it's a good idea, I can always go back and decategorize those redirects...--Shiningpikablu252 23:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

...how exactly do you mean, anyway? TTEchidna 00:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. That's a damn good idea. Please do it. TTEchidna 00:13, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay...

...what the hell? Did I screw up by deleting the category "F.E.A.R. Compatible Pokémon" from Smeargle and Kangaskhan? I thought you deleted the category on purpose. Is there anything I can do to help? I'm sorry I'm going so fast, but I'm somewhat confused... -Politoed666

No, no, I deleted it because it was spelled wrong. Missingno. Master made it at "F.E.A.R.-compatable Pokemon", so I had to delete it and then readd it as the correct spelling. TTEchidna 01:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Shoot. My bad. I'll revert my edits and change the categories to the correct spelling. -Politoed666

Actually, it seems as thought you've already done that. In any case, sorry. -Politoed666

Don't worry about it. TTEchidna 01:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Project Decks

I'd like to make guidelines for Project Decks articles. I have them here. They're what I've been using for the most part, and I'm getting irritated with finding that people have created archetype articles that are horribly unspecific and brief. I'd like to make this the template for any future articles that are a part of Project Decks. -Politoed666

Actually, that'd be good to just put into the project guidelines (like Project Pokédex has for the Pokémon articles). There'd be no need for a template that'd be used, just a guideline. TTEchidna 01:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Fine by me. I'll add it. -Politoed666

Good. TTEchidna 01:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Top Contributors of the Month for September

Why aren't I on that list? I know for a fact I made considerably more than 96 edits in that month. -Politoed666

Were they to the main namespace, though? TTEchidna 22:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I would assume talk pages aren't on the main namespace. In fact, I'm sure they're not. I need to shut my mouth. -Politoed666

Yeah. Anything with a prefix isn't. Templates, userpages, anything in the Bulbapedia namespace, and any pages that are not currently baleeted or a redirect aren't counted. TTEchidna 00:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I feel ignorant. What does "baleeted" mean? -Politoed666

Baleeted! TTEchidna 00:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Ooooo sounds cool. Where is this alleged "Top Contributors of the Month for September"? PichuLover

Top contributors of the month. :3 TinaTheKirlia ^♪☆ 19:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

awww i thought i made more than 96 edits but what do I know?? PichuLover

Actually, it counts your edits in the main namespace - so that means Userpages and Talk pages don't count. ;) TinaTheKirlia ^♪☆ 19:53, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Well thats one cheat method crossed off the list. :D PichuLover

Voting

Sorry for annoying you, but I think that we should have admin voting, and people who have been on Bulbapedia for a long time (and have made many good edits) could run for admin rights. I know you probally hate this idea, but it's a thought. --Theryguy512 01:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it'd likely be a better suited question for Zhen than I. TTEchidna 01:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Diglettdude911

You sure you want me to leave Diglett"dude"911? I can woop this guy's ass. PichuLover

It's all right. Don't worry about him, he's just insane. TTEchidna 20:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok sorry I can get real hotheaded. I wish i could stay calm like you... PichuLover

I don't always, but I try my best. The point is to focus on other things or just laugh. I know I am. TTEchidna 01:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Minor Edits

I seem to be fresh out of things to do. There are enough TCG archetypes that don't have articles, but I need something fairly minor to do. If there's anything at all that you're working on that needs helped along, tell me. -Politoed666

Well, I have been trying to change all of the big headings into smaller ones. You know how on some pages there's single-equals headings, below them double, and then so on? Well, it's kinda distracting to have a subheading the same size as the page title, so I wanna make it so it starts from heading 2.

Luckily we have no pages that use the sixth (or even fifth) heading, so we'll be fine.

You know... TTEchidna 03:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Um... Is it necessary to do this to all the pages? They are basically all OK on the navigation front. Gazco !!!! ^{my page|Talk}

Hehe...like Gazco's signature? I did it for him. Quite proud of it actually, im a good brother. PichuLover

Personally, I think it would look better, but it's not necessary. TTEchidna 03:04, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Umumum.

Shiningpikablu and Theryguy have made 1000 edits in one month. :B Better update your userpage! TinaTheKirlia ^♪☆ 03:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Got it! TTEchidna 05:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

feebas

Hi, do you catch Feebas's from any fishing spot in Mt. Coronet? PichuLover

Four in the basement. I transferred mine forward. TTEchidna 05:03, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Rowan

Do you believe my theor