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Offering Wanted
TM26 (Earthquake) TM71 (Stone Edge)
Electirizers Magmarizers
Evolutionary stones Razor Claws or Razor Fangs
DeepSeaScales and DeepSeaTeeth Protectors or Reaper Cloths
King's Rocks and Metal Coats Up-Grades or Dubious Discs
Offers end September 30! Contact TTE on his talk page!

Okay everybody. ONE! If there's a vandal, don't talkpage it! IM it! You should know who the admins are. Get their AIM, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo!, whatever! TWO! Try to bring up discussions on template and other talk pages, don't come to me immediately. THREE! I'd like this to last at least three months... You notice the ever-growing list of archives up there, don't you? Let's make it grow slower. Please? Thanks. TTEchidna

HEY EVERYONE! I'm looking for anyone who can do a good Ash or Dawn voice. Details? AIM me. It's at the bottom of my userpage. Don't have AIM? Get it. Don't wanna? Too bad.

And yes, it may have something to do with what I put on YouTube recently... TTEchidna

About the Misty article...

Due to recent events (I.e. SteelBastille's vandalization) I think we may need to put it in protect mode for the time being. I mean, if you haven't noticed, he has been editing messages and implementing them with extremely inappropriate, leud pornographic sentences. And believe me, that's far more serious than the previous two times that we had to initiate protection mode for this article. ~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

this kid is litterally asking to get banned (seriously, he wants his account banned), and untill he does, he will probibly continue vandalizing the page. a protection will do no good as he will just move onto May probibly, he hit that one earlier. MAGNEDETH 20:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh boy... And with rumors of Dustox's release brewing with DP073... TTEchidna 22:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

A favor...?

Would you mind editing Template:Spr so it links directly to the games instead of the redirects? It's really bugging me... -ニョロトノ666 17:02, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, I recently reverted several edits that were based on speculation surrounding the titles of several upcoming episodes. One suggested that Ash's Pikachu may even evolve in DP074. I'm confident that it won't, and I believe such blatant fan speculation has no place here, but some users insist that it be kept. Your opinion? -ニョロトノ666 17:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
HEY HEY!!! I am ALSO CONFIDENT that it will not evolve. But I'm only saying the truth that the title SUGGESTS that it will evolvePokeManiac102 17:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
There! I didn't remove it but I fixed it up a bitPokeManiac102 17:33, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Never mind, TTE. Fabu-Vinny took care of it. I'll ask him about Template:Spr, too. Thanks anyway! -ニョロトノ666 17:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Oyy. This is why I wanna protect the pages on new episodes that have titles that hint at an event that may transpire in the episode. TTEchidna 19:34, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I dunno what they tried to do to take care of the problem with Template:Spr, but it didn't work. -ニョロトノ666 20:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of link templates, is it possible to get Template:V to link as "Pokémon {{{1}}} Version" instead of just "Pokémon {{{1}}}"? I created its variant templates based on such an assumtpion.
And as for fixing up Template:Spr, I'm thinking we replace the instances of Template:pkmn in it with Template:v2 for singulars and Template:2v2 for plurals. --Shiningpikablu252 22:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Make sure the v template's not linked anywhere where it'd screw something up (like, say, make it Pokémon breeding version or something)... after that, I'll get right on it. TTEchidna 08:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I did. And it's fixed. I just hope they remake Gold and Silver Versions. TTEchidna 09:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Template:Spr still links to all the game redirects. Do you have any idea how to fix it? --ニョロトノ666 02:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Done. TTEchidna 05:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Brawl Code

how do i find my Brawl code? MAGNEDETH 21:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Connect to the WFC. TTEchidna 04:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
guess it would help to hook up the Wi-Fi. i just dove right in. want to fight somwhere down the line? MAGNEDETH 06:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Sometime. I've currently got ten days until I can get back to my Wii... stuck at college until break. TTEchidna 08:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
well, as i said, i dont have Wi-Fi set up yet, so, there is by means no rush, but i would enjoy a match if yur up to it. MAGNEDETH 21:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay. TTEchidna 21:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


This dude's vandalizin'...KPF 17:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Oy... Saturday please come. TTEchidna 18:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
if i may hazard a that a /b/ refence? MAGNEDETH 18:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Chanology. TTEchidna 18:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
i see, while im not a part of it, im in the know. keep fighting the good fight. MAGNEDETH 18:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
You should join us. TTEchidna 18:47, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
i dont live in or around Chicago.. MAGNEDETH 18:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Chanology's a worldwide thing. Check out TTEchidna 18:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

TCG Set Infobox (Updated)

Hi again, I've updated the infobox to include Energy symbols, see what you think. If you like those, I'd suggest a Template:ES for small versions of Energy symbols (otherwise I can add more code to the infobox, but that'd be more clutter than usefulness). Double Dash 19:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I've seen the infobox and want to ask a question: How does the {{#if}} thing work? OptimatumTalk|02:55 12 Mar 2008
I don't really know either. I just mess around with it until I get it working... TTEchidna 02:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Nag, nag, nag...

  • Veekun has footprint sprites, but I've haven't asked for permission yet, but I'd thought I'd let you know
  • Can we get somehow the names of the playable trainer classes for Pokémon Battrio? I thought I'd add them to the article
  • And finally, has someone talked to Safari about using their trainer mugshots for XD and Colosseum yet? --Manga-in-a-bottle 02:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I do believe we're affiliated with Veekun. After all, we use Filb's MSes and animated MSes; we're affiliated with them. Plus, as quoted from the page: "The sprites are not mine in any way; Nintendo created them, not me. If you want to credit me for collecting or ripping them, that's cool; if not, that's cool too, since you can find these all over the Internet anyway."
  • Don't have any clue how we'd go about that.
  • No idea. Wanna?
That's all. TTEchidna 03:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Yippie!!
  • Well, Pokésho has some fan-made icons here (at the bottom). I just need someone to translate them.
  • Uh... I don't speak Spanish... ^^; --Manga-in-a-bottle 10:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


Uh, I think there are too many TCG articles and many are stubs. Do you think we can have one article each about one Pokémon's TCG cards?PokeManiac102 03:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Good Nite. I expect feedback tomorrow. You never answer my questions nowadays. Btw, what is your Aim anyway?PokeManiac102 03:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
One article for each individual card is necessary. We don't combine the articles for Caterpie and Metapod into Butterfree even if the first two are essentially useless. The only card articles that get combined are reprints or near-reprints. A wiki is constantly expanding. Why contract it? That'd be like saying "Screw Jupiter's moons, all can go under Jupiter". There are only so many TCG articles because there are so many cards. One could say the same about there being too many articles on Ash's Pokémon, too many articles on anime episodes. How often did we see Primeape, and how much is it seen anymore? Four episodes, ten years ago. Notable? You bet your ass it is. Individual cards get individual articles, just like individual Pokémon do. Especially since a card named Pikachu has been printed in nearly every set.
I'm not an instant answerer, you know. I make edits other than my talk page, otherwise I'd never beat BulbaBot. And my AIM is on my page. Scroll it down, you'll find it. TTEchidna 03:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandal Alert

Halturner26 Porygon-Z 18:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

There are three, Halturner26, Themudkipmaster, and TheBlaziken-Master. The last one has the same name as TheBlazikenMaster. ~Kenn 18:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


There seems to be something very disturbing on the main page..... When I visited at about 2:50 pm PST... Choconeko 18:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Fucking bitches! Porygon-Z 18:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
It's not just you, it is apparently everyone, sadly. MoldyOrange 18:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
We need more mods dammit! Porygon-Z 19:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Is it gone yet? T.T why does this happen? I totally agree with Porygon-Z. Why can't the vandals get a fucking life and leave the site alone. Choconeko 19:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

THEY MADE HO-OH A FUCKIN SWASTIKA! :@ Porygon-Z 19:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Dammit, even the archives. ~Kenn 19:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah i know! :@ and Palkia was porn! Porygon-Z 19:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Well TTE's takin' care of it! Porygon-Z 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to bring this up here, but the guy came into my talk page and made some comments on it. I'm afraid that, if I delete them, he won't stop bugging me. What can I do? Commanderraf 19:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Delete, he's banned now. Porygon-Z 19:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
All fixed. TTEchidna 19:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Many, many thanks. I've been working in some pages for about two hours. Will this raid affect them (meaning I'll lose all my work)?? Commanderraf 19:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Were they the vandalized pages? If so, just copy all the text in the editbox, hit cancel, go in to edit the whole page, and hit paste. TTEchidna 19:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Main Space

this may be a long shot, but, is there any way to make a rule about some users abusing the site? and by abusing, i mean little to no main space edits. im not really picking on anyone in particular, ive seen more than one user doing this, and with people getting rid of user pages and the like to help the server load, it sort of seems like a waste not to do somthing about users who take advantage of the site. im not against personal pages and stuff, but, some people seem to join the site for that sole purpose, and i think thats wrong. MAGNEDETH 15:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

A rule, sure we could make one... I'd take it to the Bulbapedia forum, though, see what people think. TTEchidna 21:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
hmm, im not a forum member. MAGNEDETH 21:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Then make an account... TTEchidna 21:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
yea, i knew that was comming. no offence to the forums, but i have no intrest, though, i should probibly make an account so no one takes my name.. MAGNEDETH 21:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Go for it. TTEchidna 21:43, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
well, now that thats done, i guess theres nothing i can do about the problem at hand? MAGNEDETH 22:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
If you posted the query already, all you can do is wait. TTEchidna 22:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
no i didnt. how will posting on the forum solve the problem? MAGNEDETH 22:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Because then more people than just me can decide on it. TTEchidna 23:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
but the forums and the pedia are not equals, as in, this is not a/the forum. i figured it would be an admin/Zhen Lin sort of thing. and it is to say that the majority of people to understand the problem would be pedians. granted, both of these ideas are hindered by the offenders waltzing in and making their arguments and vote the idea down. MAGNEDETH 00:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but bringing up there can tell you if others share the opinion. Just don't name names. TTEchidna 01:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, Crap...

There's a problem with the Main Page. Under the "Current Events" section. We look like idiots. -ニョロトノ666 00:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I've informed Archaic. I assume it has something to do with the italics. TTEchidna 03:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh no, what happened. IT'S EMBARASING! HURRY UP QUICK!PokeManiac102 03:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
One more thing, Click current events. Look at the link that lets you Read morePokeManiac102 03:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed! It's the italiiiics. We'll fix it ASAP. TTEchidna 04:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Um, it's still not fixed...--Theryguy512 10:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
As I've noticed. I wish I could. TTEchidna 20:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Zhen Lin just took care of it. We look professional again. Yea! -ニョロトノ666 01:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Moves Used

I was starting to go around to make the "moves used" by trainer's Pokemon alphabetical (So far I only did Gligar and Piplup). For example:

  • X-Scissor→Sand-Attack
  • Steel Wing→Steel Wing
  • Sand-Attack→X-Scissor

But I think I noticed something...are they in order of first move used to last move used? Porygon-Z 00:33, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

No idea. No idea at all. Unless Bubble went before Bide which is before anything else... TTEchidna 04:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Yea, they're in chronological order and should probably stay that way, so don't change them. --Theryguy512 14:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Got it. Porygon-Z 14:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Conflicting Statements?

Here says that Arceus created Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. But here, it says that Arceus did not create Giratina. I have no idea what to do.PokeManiac102 18:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

It's been implied that Giratina's the third member of the dragon trio and was therefore created by Arceus, however it does not state this in the game. I'm fixing it up. TTEchidna 20:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Reverse World Images From Movie 11

I got images from the trailers of the Reverse world.

a:Image:Reverseworldfloor.png~View of the Reverse world Floor.

a:Image:Reverseworldceiling.png~View of the Reverse world Ceiling.

a:Image:Reverseworldclouds.png~View of the two along with the poisonous dark clouds that appeared after Movie 10.

Now, Many times in the video of the reverse world appeared bubbles. I think that these are like portals between the Pokémon and Reverse worlds. Do you know?

a:Image:Reverseworldbubble.png Why I think that they are portals


PokeManiac102 21:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

We'll have to see when Movie 11 comes out. TTEchidna 00:16, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

The Glatra Breeder

A question, could you check Darkrai breeder's and Glatra's IP addresses? DB accused Politoed666 of hacking his account just to vandalise my page. O.o;;; OptimatumTalk|08:51 22 Mar 2008

I have to say this. I was on BULBABREAK to find my game and get a better pic. And TTE is a sockpuppeter and politoed is a dispicable hacker. he gmailed me and said he hacked me. dont try my IP because it is just articles and glatra fights... dont belive me..... then let me strangle you... AND I DONT LIKE HANDLEING THINGS WITH VIOLECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Darkraibreeder 18:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Peace out. He accused you of being a sockpuppeter while the only sockpuppeter is me -bad joke-. The little asshole thinks that 'IPs' are his contribs. O.o;;; Good luck handling him. He's in your hands now. OptimatumTalk|02:27 23 Mar 2008
Oy vey. Only Darkrai Breeder and Glatra believe in the Glatra Glitch. I told both of you! Show me on youtube!PokeManiac102 02:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
That was a quote.OptimatumTalk|02:32 23 Mar 2008
One in the same. But they haven't done anything to increase any votes yet as far as I see, so they may just be like, brothers or something, using the same computer/network. TTEchidna 02:57, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I do the same thing with Link6491 and Charizard, so just because they have the same IP doesn't mean sock puppet C Isfor Cookie
As for the reason of my dynamic IP address, it's because a single IP would cost a bomb. OptimatumTalk|03:03 23 Mar 2008
Wait what? TTEchidna 03:07, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
My IP. It's dynamic because it's too expensive to have one single IP. OptimatumTalk|03:09 23 Mar 2008
Too expensive...? TTEchidna 03:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
In Singpaore, it is. American are god damned rich so you guys can have a static IP. =( OptimatumTalk|03:19 23 Mar 2008

Not all of us are made of money you know.....C Is for Cookie 03:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Wait, it costs more to have a static IP? Damn. Why the hell do I then? Fricking Comcast. I wish I didn't have a static IP so the scienos couldn't find me. TTEchidna 03:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
That's just according to my dad. OptimatumTalk|03:28 23 Mar 2008
Huh. TTEchidna 03:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Dynamic addresses cost 50% fo static addresses in Singapore. Not sure if it applies in America, thoughs. OptimatumTalk|07:53 23 Mar 2008
That's stupid. I'd expect them to cost more... TTEchidna 08:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Just take IPs as telephone numbers you can't call (you can punch the numbers in but that won't work, no?) Optimatum♏Talk|10:46 28 Mar 2008


We have a problem with this user's userpage. No one can edit it (it has not been blocked) and we have no idea what to doPokeManiac102 04:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Temporary measure. We're testing the server to see how much load userpage edits put on it. TTEchidna 04:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)]
im very interested in the results. how will i be able to find out such? MAGNEDETH 04:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Ask us when we're finished? TTEchidna 04:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
As to i as well. And no one can edit anyone's userpagesPokeManiac102 04:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
guess ill find out tomorrow.. MAGNEDETH 05:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
No one can edit anyone's userpages. And tomorrow, the recent changes will only be cluttered with User talk:TTEchidna 500 times. TTEchidna 05:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
THE TTE 500!! sounds like a race! MAGNEDETH 05:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I need Help

TTEchidna, I can't edit my Userpage. PM2 says that it could be a bug or I had my rights taken away by editing it too much. Should I start editing to the main space? AKgirl04:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Nononononononono. You didn't have any user rights taken away. It's a test we're conducting on the server... Should be resolved soon. Don't put anything you would otherwise put on your userpage in the main namespace. That'll just exacerbate the problem. TTEchidna 04:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
May I ask when I became PM2? Glinn 05:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Um, that's me, not youPokeManiac102 05:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
NO, REALLY. YOU DON'T SAY. I'm just pointing out the fact that I said what you were reported as saying. And now I'm editing another talk page. :| Glinn 05:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Wait... say what? I know of three that said it. I, You, and MagnedethPokeManiac102 05:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I only saw myself saying it. BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER. Glinn 05:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in, but any idea when this might be resolved? Cipher 21:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The server issue? As soon as possible. Be patient, it won't be a year. More than likely just a week. TTEchidna 21:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Alright, cheers. =) Cipher 21:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
well, i asked how the test was going, and you told me to ask you tomorrow (yesterday) so im asking. if im not mistaken, you said the test was to test the stress that User page edits put on the server. that being said, and maybe its just me, but it seems like the server is running a bit better. i also cant help but feel the test was a deterrent from people making 100% User page edits, but, i support that. MAGNEDETH 23:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that as well. Zhen's the final say, though. If possible we could restrict User: namespace edits to maybe ten per day per person. TTEchidna 00:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
ironically, as soon as i posted that, it seems like the server slowed down considerably, leaving me to still lean twards my theroy of the server slowdown; ie: overuse. but regardless, i think a restriction to 10 (or so) namespace edits per day sounds like a good idea. MAGNEDETH 00:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
That was better than my idea: In order to edit your userpage once, you have to do 1 mainspace edit right beforehand and in any given hundred edits, no more than 50 can be userspace; but mine would be kind of hard to enforce. ;) MoldyOrange 01:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Glitch of the month!

given the almost cirtain impossibility of "Glatra" and the fact that i only feel like wasting my time once, what should i take a picture of to prove the rumor false? btw, the only picture equipment i have right now is a rather un-fantastic cameraphone... MAGNEDETH 05:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Hrm. Well, it would've been great if you could've taken a video of it... but if you say no Glatra, I agree no Glatra. TTEchidna 05:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
As to I. I pray that Darkrai Breeder and Glatra do not read thisPokeManiac102 05:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
well, i havnt done it yet. and i cant really take a video of it considering it will take a little while (what with legendaries taking 15,000 steps to hatch) so, i was wondering what do you want in terms of pictures? i was just planning on taking a picture of the final product. HOWEVER, id like to add that even with a legendaries breeding code, the code is only supposed to work with a ditto, so this could be over within the first minute of the experiment. in which case, i probibly wont bother taking any pics. if thats the case, youre going to have to take my word for it, which in the name of factoral evidence, i assure you, no bull. MAGNEDETH 05:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes that's what I though with all the genderless species taking part in the breedingPokeManiac102 05:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

1. Breed Uxie with a Beautifly (press L R before it hatches)

not possible. FAILURE.

there is no code i could find to allow this. the only legendary breeding code i found was for Ditto only. i did try that code, but, obviously, nothing happened. i didnt take any pictures because thats pretty self-explanitory. that being said, unless somone can find me a code to allow legendaries to breed with anything BUT a Ditto, this myth is BUSTED. MAGNEDETH 00:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay you really freaked me out there, no surprise for it being a fake, and I love the show MythbustersPokeManiac102 00:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

diamond stats

so you give us most of your trainer card for diamond. what about total play time?
i clocked up about 305 hours, that's nearly 2 weeks solid play time! OrigamiGuy Lieks Mudkipz 18:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
670 hours. TTEchidna 04:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

A question

How do you become an admin?

AKgirl23:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

not just edits. theres also the fact that you must have tons of responsibility, maturity, and knoledge. theres also the fact that admins are generally well known among a community, like TTE and SPB252. theyve been here a while and they know how things work. think of it as a promotion to a job. youve worked hard as an employee, and over time, the boss sees you as a hard worker, and you get a promotion. MAGNEDETH 00:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
You also have to be somewhat seroius. Unlike meC Isfor Cookie
What they said. Just work diligently and you shall be rewarded. Not asking also helps. TTEchidna 04:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm not suprised SPB252 was promoted to admin.... TESHIGIGAS 16:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Exactly, he did a lot without asking for anything for it. TTEchidna 19:19, 26 March 2008 (UTC) did you become an admin (what did you do?)? Optimatum♏Talk|10:49 28 Mar 2008

What I do now... TTEchidna 23:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
So work well and become an admin.... got it! Origamiguy Lieks Mudkipz 19:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


This user is insistent on having a:Image:Pokemaniac102.png‎ on Bulbapedia redirect to his user page on the basis that "another page does it" and that "I don't think anyone would like to view the specifics", even after I had deleted the redirect once before. I suggested that he use an imagelink template instead, but it appears he doesn't want to do it. I even asked for the identity of the "other page that does it" and he gave me nothing. On top of that, it appears he's using the 90×90 image in question in his signature, which I'm positive is beyond legal boundaries for signature images. Apparently I can't convince him alone, so I need help. Can you help? --Shiningpikablu252 23:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

  1. Image links don't align with the words

I'm gonna use imagelinks soon, and I'm only testing it by using it as my sig Pokemaniac102 23:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Well... all I can say is... try and finish this test by tomorrow morning at 10 GMT (that's 4AM CDT), and inform us when you've finished so we can fix everything. It's good to, you know, let one of us know before you do anything like this. TTEchidna 23:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, uh, Imma be finished in a few minutes Pokemaniac102 23:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, hurry it up, the job queue is at around 300 because I updated a few link templates. TTEchidna 23:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh you can fix it now! I'm trying to figure out that thing where the picture moves as someone scrolls down the screen Pokemaniac102 23:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


The lack of edits in the User: namespace has roused our sluggish Bulbagarden. I can finally get something done. -ニョロトノ666 02:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

One more thing: You created quite a few odd, unused templates awhile back, like Template:Flare Blitz. What are they for? -ニョロトノ666 02:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Those are just redirects to the main template, because the moves are all clones of each other. TTEchidna 03:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

the code!


{{subst:AKgirl/Sig}}01:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)19:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I... don't have one? I have a Darkrai and that's all; that came from the Movie 10 event in Japan. TTEchidna 01:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Trade Possibility

Um, Hi, I just saw that you had a few shinies, and i was wondering if you would be interested in a trade? I have a shiny Carvahana Lv. 30ish (nonhacked) and a shiny Deoxys (unknown, I got it from a friend, the name goes funky when I transfer, so?...). Please respond on my talk, because I can't access yours from my normal computer. -Theininen 22:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


Alright, first one first. There's a lot of users with images in their signatures; short of leaving every one of them a personal message, I don't see a good way to inform users at the moment. Can you or Zhen Lin perhaps make a policy page for the signature policy, so there's something I can refer people to? I'd do it myself if I knew how you handle policy pages here a little better, but as it is, I wouldn't know where to put it (edicts? guidelines? and so on).
On that note, with a good policy page up, I know a bit of coding; I can set up the SiteNotice to display a mention of the policy to users, with your permission. I think I know a code that even lets users dismiss the notice, so they don't have to see it up there all the time.

Second question. You have a nifty little trades section up there at the top of your page... I've got TM71 (Stone Edge) I believe, and I'm in need of an Earthquake. Do you have MSN messenger or something of the sort? I'd love to get a trade going, if we can just sync up. I also need Ryperior (sp?) in my PokéDex, so if you can get it in my 'Dex, I'd happily trade over my Protector to assist with the process (I don't really have a use for the Pokémon itself, so long as it's in my 'Dex).

And as a bonus note: your Current Diamond Game infobox there is slightly too wide on my screen (my screen's at 1152x864 resolution, too), so it's not fitting next to your userboxes. The result? The contents of your userpage from that box onwards doesn't show up until after all the userboxes (which, as you already know, is a long way down). You might want to try to make the box a little smaller... the Pokédex box can be made smaller if you stick a linebreak in the "National Dex Completed" line, for one. Friend code could be fit underneath your Trainer too, perhaps, that would shave a nice chunk off the side. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> 09:18, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Certainly... as soon as the server starts going faster. Augh the damn thing is so sloooow...
Ooh. Well, I don't have MSN, but I have AIM. And if you need a Rhyperior, well, gimme the Rhydon with the Protector, I'll trade it back.
Hm. I'll fix it. TTEchidna 00:43, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
A couple things. First of all, would you mind deleting "User:Politoed666/Sig"? Secondly, I'll help remind users about the signature policy now that I've redone my own. -ニョロトノ666 02:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Never mind about the first request. It's been taken care of. -ニョロトノ666 02:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Alright, late response on my part (didn't see your reply for a bit there). I think I got you added in my MSN (it works with AIM as well, iirc)... it would be your AIM name, plus I've got my MSN listed off on my deviantART page as well ([1]), so try adding me if it doesn't work from my end. Either I'll trade you a Rhydon with the item, or you can trade me one and I'll send it back with the item (either way, so long as it ends up in my 'Dex, I'm happy). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 21:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I think it'd be TTEchidna 20:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Account Problem

Well yeah I asked this a long time ago but I just thought it wasn't worth it but I changed my mind. Anyway, I had an account before, [2], this one. Anyway I forgot to confirm that it was my account and I didn't notice this before. If you're wondering how I didn't notice before and why I couldn't edit I thought that users had to wait a certain amount of days or weeks until they could edit. Um I really rather have my old account again so is there anything I could do?--GIAFGC 03:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

You'd have to ask Zhen if there's anything he can do... TTEchidna 03:49, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


Is she gone for good? Oh, and how did her edit count go down? Check the top contributors. --ニョロトノ666 18:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and does Zhen update the "Uncategorized pages" article manually? --ニョロトノ666 18:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I do believe that uncategorized pages are among the pages updated manually each time. Wanted pages, uncategorized pages/categories, broken redirects, and double redirects are all in the same boat when it comes to being updated. --Shiningpikablu252 18:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Not for good as far as I know. I'll ask her later on. And yes, that's manual. TTEchidna 23:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, wait...I forgot! You're Pie's sockpuppet! --ニョロトノ666 23:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps it's something to do with the millions of pages deleted recently? Optimatum♏Talk|05:33 31 Mar 2008
either that or they become redirects. TTEchidna 06:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, next problem: How do we ban you? Optimatum♏Talk|13:40 31 Mar 2008
You can't, muhuhahahahaha. TTEchidna 17:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
We can't ban bureaucrats? How much further do you have to go in this wiki, I think you're already at the top...Optimatum♏Talk|08:50 4 Apr 2008
Well, I assume Zhen could, but why would he? And remember, I'm pretty much the head Honchkrow for now, since Zhen's kindasorta on break... yet not... ya know? TTEchidna 19:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
-sticks out his tongue and points middle finger- Would that get me banned? Optimatum♏Talk|11:23 5 Apr 2008


Can you delete these two pages for me, I am all done with my templates!

User:Moldy orange/Signature
User:Moldy orange/Sig

MoldyOrange 00:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, already done! MoldyOrange 01:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Only One.

should it be added to the respective pokemon's page about their signature move? (if they have one) i guess it would fit well in "special abilities". also, why im here, can i make a small suggestion on your sig? maybe its just me, but i like it better as this: TTEchidna, or this: TTEchidna. (i personally like the former/blue) please note that in order for you (the viewer) to see the changes, i had to link your "chidna" to your user page in order allow the colors to come through. (what with this being the talk page and all) --- MAGNEDETH 23:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Maybe something like "Lugia is the only known Pokémon that learns Aeroblast."
And eh, I dunno. We'll see. TTEchidna 02:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
ok, well, i was also going to bring it to your attention that a majority of these templates are both unprotected and used quite a bit. -- MAGNEDETH 02:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
are protections easy? or are they just as tedious and repetitive as it looks? -- MAGNEDETH 02:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
It's really easy. And mostly tedious. TTEchidna 02:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
well, at least its easy for our back-breaking admins.

as for Sig moves, i was guessing we would put it under "Special abilities":

Lugia is the only known Pokémon that learns Aeroblast.


Lugia's signature move is Aeroblast.

-- MAGNEDETH 03:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. First. TTEchidna 03:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
ok, ill get on it tomorrow. -- MAGNEDETH 03:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

opinion please.

Paras is one of very few Pokémon that learns Spore.
Shroomish is one of very few Pokémon that learns Spore.

yes? no? opinions? suggestions? etc...? -- MAGNEDETH 23:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. That's good. TTEchidna 01:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


AH! All the red words are freaking me out! what happened??????PokeManiac102 03:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm typing up the announcement as we speak. TTEchidna 03:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
*breathe in* *hold for ten minutes* * breath out* *screams* Okay I'm over it, oh my curiosity of what happenedPokeManiac102 03:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Is the main page's talk archive protected...If so, why? MoldyOrange 03:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Because it's an archive and we didn't want anyone screwing with it. I'll unprotect later... TTEchidna 03:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
ELIMINATED FOREVER???PokeManiac102 03:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I still think this is an April Fools' joke. If it isn't, then OSHIT, there goes my teams. This, will be pretty interesting to see the reaction, though.. Tina δ 03:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I pray so, but then again, I don't really care, and good night to you allPokeManiac102 03:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
April Fool's? Man, it's still 7:50 on March 31st here. But anyway, I'm wondering, too, is this temporary? I'll admit that I'm glad Bulbapedia doesn't take abhorrently long to load anymore, but this seems like kind of a drastic measure. --Martonimos 03:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

with no more user space, we wont need these or these. might as well delete them. -- MAGNEDETH 04:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

True. TTEchidna 04:38, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

SILENCE! TTEchidna 05:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

That's a lie! If they're deleted FOREVER, why does [3], [4], [5], etc. still work???? Muhahahaha!!! --Theryguy512 11:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

So... This is a joke...? Crystal Lucario 11:38, 1 April 2008 (UTC) Ok...My sig broke... Crystal Lucario 11:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC) That's cause it has User: in it. So, it's just a prank.PokeManiac102 22:22, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Just because it's April Fool's,

Doesn't mean Zhen Lin or TTE would do somethign mean like that...right? Optimatum♏Talk1 Apr 2008

Anyway, I want to ask a question. What the --- is the ---king problem with my sig. I'm gonna --- the server up ----------------------- in the --- hole. {{SUBST:Template:Tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}Talk1 Apr 2008
Something in the <sc> code is probably the issue... it's almost like it's doubling as a <nowiki> tag instead... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
phew! you just replaced the e in user with a cyrillic e or something.
thank god, i was worried it was the aftermath of your block on user page edits {{subst:Usеr:Origamiguy/Signature}} 14:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
This User: thing can be worrying at first... TESHIGIGAS 15:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
The entire namespace was renamed? That's... wow. That's cool. Anyway, I guess this means the pages still exist, so the server's doing fine even with all of them hanging around. --Martonimos 23:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Not renamed, just moved to a secretly renamed space. And LOOK at the production it's brought! TTEchidna 23:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

still a userpage left

i was looking over to see what links to my nonexistent page and shinynoctowl's page is still there and i was confused...--

23:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, that's because the e appears the same textwise. The page linking to it is the page at the hidden userspace. TTEchidna 23:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

ok so are you guys planing to fix that or just leave it there because that still takes up bandwidth doesnt it?

Not if it's not accessed, which it hardly is. TTEchidna 23:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Tee eMMz

well, i think ive crammed as much info into them as i can. that being said, i need the following templates protectored. this and this. sort of figured both would be protected long ago. in anycase, there are still two things that id like an answer for before i deem this personal project done. first off, how do i symbolize coins and poke coupons? both are too large for the template (not in a size sence, but in a summarize sence ie: BP, and PokémonDollar.png). i was thinking either nothing for coins, or a simple C, and the coupons either being PkCpn, PkCp, or just the PDollar. also, with the copius information each page holds, are they still considered disambigs? -- MAGNEDETH 00:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Pokémon Dollars is PokémonDollar.png, Battle Points are BP, coins C, Poké Coupons PCpn. Make sure to always link.
And they technically are, since they disambiguate between moves. TTEchidna 00:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
okaly dokaly. got it. btw, you forgot(?) to protect the other one. -- MAGNEDETH 00:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
should probibly protect these as well. -- MAGNEDETH 01:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
That's a good idea. TTEchidna 21:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

im tired of having an edit war with myself. check out TM10, the PCpn just seems awfully large and protruding. on the flip side, i cant think of anything else to put. -- MAGNEDETH 02:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

PC works I guess... TTEchidna 03:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
yea..but people may confuse it with the Pokemon Center PC. might just have to take that risk. it would link to its respective page after all. -- MAGNEDETH 03:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Let's spend 20,000 Pokémon Centers on a Dusk Stone! I don't think Bulba's users are that dumb... Almost, but not quite. TTEchidna 04:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
you never can be too sure around here somtimes...that being said, the tm locations page doesnt list the locations, nor prices of Col or XD. id do it myself, but, im not sure how to go about that particular table type. -- MAGNEDETH 02:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


I am a good speller, and I am good with my grammar too. I was using my Wii when I was editing "Skateboards" [page], I will also make grammer and spelling errors when I type fast, and I might miss a few capitals at the begining of my sentences. I can't spell certian words ether, so I atempt to spell them. If someone makes a spelling/grammar error, don't make such a big deal out of it, just fix it and don't comment on the persons spelling or grammar. X3ni92 00:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Grammer is spelled Grammar. Boywonder01 00:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry. X3ni92 00:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Ick, editing from the Wii. That is something I do not enjoy so I do not do. However... I will say that Firefox is a spelling saver in most cases... TTEchidna 01:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

User Pages

TTE, could u explain y the User pages r not accessible? Like Generation V Pokémon predictions, your Anime team journeys, the predictions on what Pokemon the anime characters will catch, I loved those! WHen will they b working again? Signed Kuki

go to the main page and check the "Message from the Editor" -- MAGNEDETH 00:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

What I'm trying 2 ask is: Y??? - unsigned comment from Kuki (talkcontribs)

um, im pretty sure it says so. "increased server speed" and what-not. the pages will be back presumably. -- MAGNEDETH 01:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

i think it's because ppl were too focused on editing their userpages so much that it became like a myspace for some. Boywonder01 01:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

dear TTE. a huge conversation was going on here and i figured it wasnt the place to do it, so, i moved it over to the Main Page Talk section. hope thats ok. -- MAGNEDETH 02:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Fine by me. TTEchidna 04:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


When will I be allowed to edit my user page again? Because it kinda sucks right now and I wanna make it better. TheBlazikenMaster 18:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

same. I've got a cage for donated mudkipz waiting on my sandbox's talk page that wants a proper domain Origamiguy Lieks Mudkipz 19:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Soon is all I can say. There will be limits, however, which is why we're holding off on bringing them back. We gotta figure out what's fair to start, and then after it's tested out by the return of edits, we'll see if it needs to be altered. TTEchidna 21:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
huurryy uupp!!! i can't wait much longer! Donate a mudkip to Origamiguy today! 14:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Well it will be soon. TTEchidna 23:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


if you don't mind, could you delete my teams page? Thanks a bunch Boywonder01 21:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Link me to it? TTEchidna 21:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

User:Boywonder01/Teams ,it looks as though ShiningPikablu already did it Boywonder01 22:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay. TTEchidna 22:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

My own favor

Could u please go to my userpage and read my Anime Team Prediction section? Follow the link, read and review, please, my story hasn't gotten many reviews!--Kuki 22:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC) Kuki

Erm... what page? TTEchidna 23:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

My talk page--Kuki 00:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Well I can't exactly go through an entire story to see what Misty and May's teams are. TTEchidna 00:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, most of May's is in Chapter 5! Chapters 3, 9, 13, and 17 give details on characters' teams!--Kuki 00:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Hrm. TTEchidna 00:20, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Whaddaya mean Hrm? It is a very good story!--Kuki 00:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm lazy. TTEchidna 00:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Have you at least visited the page?--Kuki 00:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

TTEchidna is a mod and he has lots of work to do. He cannot go around to everyone's page and read it or check it out. If he or anyone else is looking for a fanfic. yours will be found by some people. Putting a link in your signature may be good for publicity. Porygon-Z 00:49, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Or may not be. Let's not linkspam with signatures. Why don't you just tell me what their parties are? I don't have time to read a fanfic. TTEchidna 00:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Did u c my e-mail?--Kuki 19:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Vowels cannot consonant emails. TTEchidna 03:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Anime Character pokemon Progress

When are you going to do Misty's? Are you going to do recurring characters?

When I get the chance (after the userpages come back). And no, likely not, since their parties are more or less noted on their pages. TTEchidna 00:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Your opinion?

Pokémon Gold and Silver remakes. See discussion on talk page. Please. Irritating. --ニョロトノ666 01:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


Twice now, I've been blamed for other people's edits (see the "Link Template" and "Raichu" sections of my talk page for details; the pages in question are Arceus and Raichu). The first time, it seemed like a simple mistake, but the second time was more serious. If someone mistook me for a vandal, I could be unjustly banned, while the vandal continued to get away with his edits. The fact that this has happened twice has set me to wondering if something's going on with the Recent Changes that makes it look like I'm responsible for the edits before the ones I actually make. So are these just honest mistakes, or is the Recent Changes page trying to get me blocked? --Martonimos 08:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

This has been fixed. I dunno how you could be mistaken to have put the crap in there. The idiot who did it has been banned, and I told him to do something more constructive. TTEchidna 09:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Sorry to bug you. --Martonimos 20:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Just something odd I noticed

My preferences have set Recent Changes to 500 and all days, by the way.

WHen I check RC, usually it's only 2 days of edits (blame my early timezone). Nowadays, it's around 4-5 days. THe reason is obvious. =) Optimatum♏Talk|11:46 5 Apr 2008

Userpages. TTEchidna 23:26, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Precisely. So most peeps come here just to edit their userpages...Optimatum♏Talk|08:53 6 Apr 2008
Exactly why we're developing a plan to stop that. TTEchidna 10:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
It's good to know that the amount of days displayed aren't 10 whole days...otherwise that WOULD be a problem! Optimatum♏Talk|11:08 6 Apr 2008
Have you considered that perhaps limiting the amount of talk on talk pages would probably decrease that rate even further? Just a thought. Glinn 12:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Like User talk: or just Talk:? Because there's certainly some need for editing of user talk:... TTEchidna 20:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Yet another good thing that happened: No trolls can go around attacking userpages. Although we are still pretty vulnerable to vandals, at least we got rid of trolls. As for User talk, I believe it should remain open. Lack of fanfic edits help to decrease discussion details. Optimatum♏Talk|11:57 12 Apr 2008


You wouldn't mind update the List of shippers? The list on Bulbagarden, which the list's taken from, has like atleast a half billion more complete list of shippers since the Bulbapedia page latest was updated, by Fabu-Vinny 17:54 (EDT) 27 May 2007. Pokémon Lover King Mario

Eh... soon enough. TTEchidna 23:28, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Look What I Found

I used to be a Crater member, and ever since, I've been looking for the best Pokemon RPG replacement. I've found it its Pokemon Indigo[6]. I think to spread the word, someone should create a page about it. I think you, TTEchidna, are the man for the job.--Kuki 20:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Ehhh... it says it's on version 1.0 now which means it's new. And Bulba's no ad agency. Wait a while until it's big enough. TTEchidna 20:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'm fine with that!--Kuki 12:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

My story

And remember what Ash promised Max in AG191? In the next chapter of my story, the promise is fulfilled! If u wanna read it just go back to my talk page, click the link, and go to Chapter 19.--Kuki 20:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. TTEchidna 22:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


can you fix my sig please

Charizard95 01:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Er, what? Just go to your preferences and change it there. TTEchidna 01:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


When will Zhen update the top contributors page? I'm not really that just seems like it should be updated, as the last entry is from early March. --ニョロトノ666 00:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Name Game

what is your opinion on users whom directly name themselves after Pokemon? ex: User:Bulbasaur. -- MAGNEDETH 02:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

As long as there's less than 493 of them... TTEchidna 03:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me

Is there a reason why I can't edit my own userpage? I can still edit other pages, just not userpages. Did I miss something? --'ケンジ'ガール 03:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You don't need to worry. Nobody can edit the User namespace except admins right now. It started as an experiment to see if it'd take a load off the server and encourage more edits to the main namespace, and now that it's worked fairly well, they're continuing it until they can figure out what to do to prevent people from editing their userpages too much in the future. TTE and company say they'll have it all figured out soon, so just wait a little longer. --MartonimosTalk 03:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
What he said. TTEchidna 03:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I see now. Well, at least it's for a good purpose. I can't stand it when there are a million edits to someone's userpage in one day and it blocks me from seeing the recent changes. And those users who don't contribute anything to the mainspace and are only here to chit-chat and show off there userpage, that just sickens me. --'ケンジ'ガール 04:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah me too. Now there's more than one day on recent changes! TTEchidna 04:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
You know, TTE, a lot of people have been coming to you with this same question. Maybe you should post some kind of disclaimer at the top of your page; at the very least, a link to the proper Message from the Editor, along with some text big enough to catch their attention. --MartonimosTalk 23:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
No one reads anything anyway, as the version-exclusive page proves. TTEchidna 01:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Hm. Good point. --MartonimosTalk 03:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
"LOL ITS WRONG LEMME FIX IT." TTEchidna 04:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

VoiceOfDeath: It is not relevant where he is from, it is what he stands for and that he has shocked a part of the Pokémon fandom multiple times. His actions are of relevance to a Bulbapedia page.

He's just some ass. I don't care if he wants to yiff Brock's Vulpix. That's not shocking, that's just stupid. He doesn't get an article because Johnny Rebel doesn't. TTEchidna 23:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Optimatum: Okay, this totally confuses me. What on Earth are you two talking about? Optimatum♏Talk|10:39 13 Apr 2008
Article I deleted on some creepy moron from Serebii. TTEchidna 23:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Concerning the Mt. Mortar situation...

I've traced it to edit 115660, made by Mewtwo Ex on April 5, 2007. Mewtwo Ex hasn't been seen since that day, so I don't think a scolding would work...--Shiningpikablu252 21:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Blah, why can no one use the lts? TTEchidna 21:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

One or the Other

Darkrai breeder added a comment to my userpage. normally, no big deal. however, he input it as if to make it look like somone else said it. i asked him on his talk page if he did it on purpose, or if it was an accident, but he has yet to respond. idk if hes hiding the fact that he did, or if he simply went offline. now, idk if this qualifies as a big deal or not, but, i feel putting words in someone elses mouth is wrong (theres always the occasional exception of course, but this does not follow). i just wanted your opinion on this. -- MAGNEDETH 00:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I think he just was adding a comment and forgot to sign, not realizing that one return line really does nothing for the replies. I mean I could do this and it'll come out without the ridiculous spacing. Which is why I wish people would put


and make everything work better. But alas, if people can't get that the userspace is not a game show, it'll be hard to tell them how to reply. TTEchidna 00:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

oops, i looked at it too quickly. what with his lack of punctuation, it makes it look like he did it deliberately. what are they teaching kids in English class these days?? on any given day though, if its clear someone did put words one someone elses comment, thats bad right? -- MAGNEDETH 00:30, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
What are they teaching kids in English? Nothing. Just essay-writing. Not grammar. Not spelling. That's what MS Word is for. When you're writing your essays the computer is supposed to check your grammar. Thats why theirs so much wrong here.
Yes, it is bad to put words in someone else's comment. Depending on how severe and intentional it is, as well as how many times it is done, it might lead to a temporary block for being an idiot. TTEchidna 00:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
holy hell, that makes so much sense. maybe they added spell-check in Firefox2 for just such a generation. that being said, whats your opinion on the fact that all i did in English class was read a book and answer questions about it? 1984 may be a literary masterpiece, but i found it boring and making no sense. though, it does support my belief that more books should be made into video games. -- MAGNEDETH 00:56, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, I find spellcheck in Firefox just a handy little reminder most times. My opinion on reading a book and answering questions on it... well, it's that it sucks. I mean, honestly, you're advertising an English class, why not teach ENGLISH in it, not READING. If you go to Spanish class, are you reading Spanish novels? No. You're reading about Spanish grammar and reading short stories. Reading would be much more interesting and liked by people if they weren't forced to do it for most of their school career, or if they picked more interesting books. Like fantasy novels. Screw Dante's Inferno, pretty much no one wants to read the Bible, much less a Bible fanfic.
And books to games? Most would have to be reworked more than books are to be made into movies. So that'd be a prablem. And 1984 was meant to be confusing with the newspeak. Let's just hope it doesn't happen, though... especially with Scientology's goals. TTEchidna 01:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
you seem to have all the answers. hows about the meaning of life? back when i was younger, my mother got me a book (something about aliens playing baseball) and i enjoyed it. with that, my mother naturally wanted to encourage my reading and got me a couple more books. over time, i grew to hate reading books. i guess i know why now. i also came to the conclusion, "if i learn french grammar in french class, then why am i reading books and writing an essay on what college im going to in english class?"
also, i was talking to someone the other day (about something, i cant remember) and they asked me something about my opinions on religion. i told them that "while i am Christian, i respect everyones beliefs." i paused, and then added, "except Scientology, thats a crock of shit." i should probibly go to one of those rallies... -- MAGNEDETH 01:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Well of course I have all the answers. According to David Miscavidge, I'm the second coming of Christ. No. Seriously. Hubbard said that he was the antichrist, and that after he died would be the second coming of Christ, said by him to be actually the fourth (or fifth) Marcabian fleet invading Earth to try to stop Scientology. Then Miscavidge labeled us the fourth (or fifth) Marcabian fleet that was funded by German psychiatrists. Therefore, Anonymous = Jesus.
Funny. They label their opponents as the second coming of Christ. TTEchidna 01:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
......i think my head just exploded. -- MAGNEDETH 01:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Winner! TTEchidna 02:01, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
i guess it just goes to show how stupid Scientology is... -- MAGNEDETH 02:03, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Yep! TTEchidna 02:08, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Two things.

1. If you didn't know, May's Eevee evolved into Glaceon in yesterday's episode, DP075, according to Pokémon Lover King Mario 18 April 2008 12:52 (GMT +01)

2. When are you sysops/buerocrats/whatever going to shoe conclusive results for the lack of editing in pages in the User: namespace? It's very long after the scheduled time now, and we haven't got to know anything new. Pokémon Lover King Mario 18 April 2008 12:52 (GMT +01)

  1. Bulbapedia need *CoughproofCough* to confirm it. Although I do support the fact eevee has evolved (after looking at serebii) into Glaceon though.[7]
  2. I agree...... (Yes that's all I have to say!) Force Fire
Seems to be some confuse here. Serebbi, at, was clumsy and made it sound like it was the most recent episode. But after doubblechecking and Bulbapedia, don't it seems like it has aired yet. - unsigned comment from Pokémon Lover King Mario (talkcontribs)
Also, Serebii shows the pictures of what happened in the episode, And it doesn' show Glaceon, So Bulbapedia can't confirm if it is May's or not, So I guess we wait 'till DP076 Which air in japan next week (24th april) - unsigned comment from Force Fire (talkcontribs)
See what I wrote Force Fire. Pokémon Lover King Mario 18:38 (GMT +01) 18 April 2008

OKAY a few things.

  1. May's Eevee did not evolve into Glaceon last episode. All we saw of May was her sitting in the Snowpoint Pokémon Center, heavily implying that she evolved Eevee up there on Route 217, but no evolution was shown. Period. We didn't move Aipom, and that even began to glow, so we're not moving Eevee. Sure the preview of DP076 shows Glaceon, and afterwards May commanding something, but that doesn't imply anything, unlike if May were in the background while Glaceon was doing something. Heck, I could edit DP074 just enough so that at the end it looks like Ash is commanding Raichu.
  2. The userspace editing will come back when we find a way to automate the process of checking how many times a user edits in that namespace. We're not in too much of a hurry to do that though, since someone will likely find a way to edit it more.

So in closing, wait until next week. TTEchidna 21:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The average active user edits his/her userpage five times a day. And talk pages ten or twenty. OptimatumTalk|Links19 Apr 2008
We shall reduce that then. Userpages need to be edited maybe one time every five days, if that! TTEchidna 05:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Ah. Once a week is good enough for me. I won't mind longer but...OptimatumTalk|Links19 Apr 2008
We'll figure something out. TTEchidna 06:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
-sigh- Make it quick. Or you'll have more than just a few days on the RC to worry about (I'm talking about a serious riot) OptimatumTalk|Links19 Apr 2008

G. (temp)

shouldnt the G template have "versions" on the end? -- MAGNEDETH 03:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

It's used for other things, so it's not just for games... And templates can be linked the same as other things. the G template, you see. Pokémon Breeders, Pokémon Trainers, Pokémon Coordinators... TTEchidna 03:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
so, it just puts "Pokemon" in front of whatever's in the box? like, "Poodle Factory"? -- MAGNEDETH 03:46, 19 April 2008
wow, sure enough... -- MAGNEDETH 03:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. TTEchidna 03:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. Plus, if you linked to Yellow, Emerald, or Crystal with that template, you'd wind up at a non-existent page. I think we should use the v template when linking to Pokémon games instead of the g template, which lists them as "x Version" instead of "Pokémon x", but goes straight to the version name instead. If you want to keep the "Pokémon x", then maybe we should consider creating yet another template, or else just replace them with standard links. I'm just giving my input, though. I'll leave it up to the important guys to decide. --Martonimos((Talk)) 03:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
ok, that in mind, shouldnt we have a template for the games? that has {{v|Gold and Silver}} which would make it > Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions. then maybe {{v2| could be the appearence of Gold and Silver, but would link to the full title. like thus: Gold and Silver. -- MAGNEDETH 03:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
We do, see the shortlinks list. TTEchidna 03:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
me good ideas taken before i even fathomed them.... -- MAGNEDETH 03:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
So should we replace all the {{g|game name}} with {{v2|game name}}, and will nobody care that what once said "Pokémon game name" now simply reads "game name"? I hate to be so nitpicky, but in my experience, it's better to be safe than sorry. --Martonimos((Talk)) 08:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Crisis averted. Forgot to close the nowiki tab. One of the dumber mistakes I've made. Hey, you know what's great? NOT sleep deprivation. --Martonimos((Talk)) 08:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Eh, I dunno. Pokémon (game name) is fine... we start saying things are found in Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow, people might start looking in their digestive systems. TTEchidna 08:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Discussion revival. I want to make a template to solve this problem. You'd input {{rpg|GameName}} and get [[Pokémon GameName Version|Pokémon GameName]], or else input {{2rpg|OneName|OtherName}} and get [[Pokémon OneName and OtherName Versions|Pokémon OneName and OtherName]]. It'd make things a little easier on people trying to relink everything (I'm looking at you, Politoed666), and will make sure links go to actual pages instead of redirects without changing the appearance of the page, which is, of course, the point of relinking in the first place. Anyway, the reason I bring this up is that, while I'm pretty sure I can make this template, I want to make sure it's OK. I have no idea whether or not you guys have a policy concerning the creation of link templates.
That said, if you have any better ideas for names than {{rpg}} and {{2rpg}}, I'm open to them. I mostly just pulled those out of my ass to help make my point. --Martonimos((Talk)) 07:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
That's perfect. If you want, you can make the templates, I'll protect them afterward. TTEchidna 18:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
A name like {{game}} is simple enough, in my opinion. And I don't think it's taken yet. And you could simply add a variable to the template to adjust it to "Version" or "Versions", depending on the number (instead of needing to make two templates for it). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 18:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Check out what I did on one of the LTs for an example of that. I think it's the {{v}}... TTEchidna 18:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Template's been created. Give me a moment to test it. --Martonimos((Talk)) 23:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
All right. It works. I did find that thing in Template:v and used that, so I'll only need to make this one. As long as users remember to put an s in the second slot when they're linking to paired versions, this should be fine. Here's hoping it catches on. --Martonimos((Talk)) 23:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

May (anime)

I wasn't sure how to ask, but since it's protected, I obviously can't change it. May (anime) states the may will return from DP076 until DP079. However, we don't know if May is leaving the group at 79, all that's been released is that it's going to be Dawn vs May in the Wallace Cup. Shouldn't it be changed May returns to the group from DP076 on, until more info is revealed about if she stays? ^^; Myzou 07:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, since we likely won't get any info on DP080 until next week, there's not much to worry about. If it needs fixing we'll fix it, no need to worry... TTEchidna 08:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

You know...

There's one crappy thing I've noticed so far. Every active user has edited your talkpage at least once. Weird? OptimatumTalk|Links19 Apr 2008

Once... in the last week? Year? Month? TTEchidna 08:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
It's not that weird... TTE definitely comes across as the most accessible of the admins. He acts just like another user, mostly. Of course, I don't mean to offend anyone; all the active admins are working hard on this site. --Martonimos((Talk)) 08:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Does that mean I'm aaaaawesome?
Oh, by the way, does anyone know anyone who could do a decent Dawn voice or Ash voice? TTEchidna 08:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Me? -joke- Why? OptimatumTalk|Links19 Apr 2008

Well if you were serious... I would say go to my YouTube. It's accessible from the link on DP076's page. TTEchidna 09:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh...Fake DP074 preview. Nice. OptimatumTalk|Links19 Apr 2008
Not exactly that. TTEchidna 23:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the compliment. I think I will work on finishing the rest of the egg groups. It's a very useful series of articles. Trainer-c 08:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

All right. I already finished a few though, as you likely saw. TTEchidna 09:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


me and Glinn were talking about the differences of English UK/US and much to Glinns dismay, the pedia uses US English. however, he made a note that its not in the welcome template, so, i was wondering if that would be useful in there or not? -- MAGNEDETH 23:14, 22 April 2008

Hmmm... I dunno. Pretty much it just gets standardized in and then people get it. I don't suppose the stats over there are named Defence and Special Defence, are they? TTEchidna 23:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
no, but it still happens. i fixed some kids comment yesterday with "favourites" which is how this whole thing started. -- MAGNEDETH 23:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
You'll find that my edits will always use what I'm used to using, in this case UK/Pretty much the whole world English. Glinn Mgraw 02:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
As long as edits aren't just from one to the other... TTEchidna 02:21, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Which some people are doing. Glinn Mgraw 03:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
well, if thats against the rules, i wont do that then. -- MAGNEDETH 03:03, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
More of a guideline, actually. We don't want the only thing done in an edit to be to fix spelling from colour to color. TTEchidna 03:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Egg Group

You left a message on my usertalk page; this is a response to that.

Um, I didn't know I was messing anything up. I was just copy/pasting everything from the No Eggs egg group page, only changing the info on the page. I'm not sure what I did wrong. Could you give me some specifics? I'm still pretty new to making articles. --LynnCreed 21:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

You put the secondary egg group of the dual-group Pokémon as a centered/bolded cell, instead of keeping it as non-centered, non-bolded, and linked. For example, in Water 2 you had:
# Name Type Other
129 129 Magikarp Water Dragon
130 130 Gyarados Water Flying Dragon
When it should be...
# Name Type Other
129 129 Magikarp Water Dragon
130 130 Gyarados Water Flying Dragon
And you spelled Qwilfish wrong.
Additionally, all Pokémon minisprites that are 401-493 have to be called as a png, meaning they need to be {{MS|###|png}} instead of just {{MS|###}}. As you can see, 001 is Bulbasaur, but 401 breaks the template because the minisprite of Kricketot is a png, 401.
All in all, though, it's fine. Just remember, preview things. If something doesn't look right, try to figure out why. TTEchidna 21:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Ah, thanks. I'll be more careful next time. my apologies. --LynnCreed 21:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Good good. Besides, no eggs isn't the best thing to copy from, since it didn't have the stuff automatically there... Base everything off of the Ground group. I just wish it were easier to link to it before having all the articles ready, since I'm not changing the three templates until they're all done... and not working on any egg groups until later on. TTEchidna 21:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


Hey. I made a simple video to try to find someone for our "thing". Should I upload it? Porygon-Z 21:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Go for it. TTEchidna 01:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


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Perhaps it's a good time to archive ahead of schedule? You're getting increasingly popular in my opinion, but your archives haven't sped up to keep up yet. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 03:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Beginning of the month, man. Give it a week more. TTEchidna 04:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Go man go. You can make it. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 04:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Manual of Style

I see that it's protected. You might wanna edit it under the "May's Pokémon" section so it links to May's Glaceon instead of May's Eevee. --ニョロトノ666 17:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

And Drew's. I'll get to it. TTEchidna 17:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
By the way, sorry if I seem kind of...uh...pushy. You'd probably get to it without "prodding," as Fabu-Vinny put it. --ニョロトノ666 17:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually just finished. TTEchidna 17:26, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

One more thing. Bulbapedia:Site support should probably be protected. --ニョロトノ666 20:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Pikablu got it. TTEchidna 21:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Big Problem Brewing

Cassius335 DOES NOT KNOW what initial means. He's counting Misty's 3 episde BF return as her initial guest appearance! He keeps reverting my edit, and he's saying they don't count because I say so! Could u resolve this, for both mine and Cassius's sakes?--KukiTalk 18:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Oy. It seems fine as-is now. Mentioning that Misty did in fact make five total guest appearance episodes doesn't hurt anything. If May reappears for another seven after she kicks GF ass, we'll see about it. TTEchidna 18:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Article's been protected. The protection expires at the DP077 airing, which should stop any Wartortle gun-jumper problems as well.
However, as far as I'm concerned, Cassius335 isn't saying Misty's appearances in the Battle Frontier saga count as the "initial appearance". In fact, if you even bothered to read his edit (as it stands now), you would have read that it was a "second guest appearance". --Shiningpikablu252 18:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

But the word 'INITIAL' was still in in all of his edits!!--KukiTalk 18:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Where? I didn't see such a word there...--Shiningpikablu252 18:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Anime teams

Are you gonna made them about rivals to? MathijsP 06:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

They hardly appear, so their parties change big time between appearances. TTEchidna 18:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


On the search page, when you place a checkmark in the boxes to say what namespace you want things to be searched in, did you know that "User" and "User talk" appear twice, once at the end and once in the first line? MoldyOrange 04:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Those are the fake User/User talk namespaces. TTEchidna 04:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh...okay MoldyOrange 04:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. We'll be rid of them eventually, when we give back the regular userspace. TTEchidna 04:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon Card Game DP changes

Hiya, I need an opinion on something: should Cry from the Mysterious/Temple of Anger and Moonlit Pursuit/Dawn Dash be changed to Pokémon Card Game DPX (with X being 5 and 4 respectively)? Two reasons I'm suggesting this:

  • 1. There's confusion about the Japanese names for the sets, which isn't gonna clear up easily.
  • 2. DP5 stretches the page here and, eh, I'm a neat freak. ^_^

Your thoughts? Cheers, Cipher 16:54, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, I think it'd be better off brought up on the talk pages of both of those. I'd be wary of calling them "Pokémon Card Game DP#", since someone might think "OH LET'S MOVE DIAMOND & PEARL TO POKÉMON CARD GAME DP1 :D". Plus, Pokémon Card Game anything (TCG) is redundant...
And it doesn't stretch my page... Anyway, bring it up on those talk pages, since I'm not Mr. "Let's figure out titles for it all", especially since I'm not too much of a TCG guy. TTEchidna 23:54, 30 April 2008 (UTC)