Talk:Ash's Rowlet

Kicking Move??

Hi guys, does anybody have any idea what that kicking move Rowlet used to break the nets was?? We know it's a move as it glowed white. Personally the only thing I can see it being is Fury Attack tbh, only cuz we've seen Fury Attack being used by many different parts of the body.RBK (talk) 10:37, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

If it wasn't called out, we don't know and we won't say. You should know this by now.--ForceFire 12:53, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Jeez, it's not like I added the move or was saying it was confirmed, I was just asking a question. There's no reason for the attitude.RBK (talk) 12:56, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Was it ever stated that Litten uses ember? Since we've put that up. The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here! (talk) 11:04, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

A Magazine article said that Litten knows Ember and also Rowlet used a kicking move in today's episode and the attack was Tackle. Playerking95 (talk) 11:17, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Rowlet's Gender

Ash's Rowlet is a male. At the end of SM004, it says that Rowlet saved HIS friends. P.S. Sorry I didn't timestamp my name. I don't know how. - unsigned comment from Alolan Raichu (talk • contribs)

Where are you getting that? Are you watching a fansub? Those aren't official and therefore aren't trustworthy. The person who translated it could easily have taken liberties. (You can sign your comments by typing four tildes at the end, like this: ~~~~) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:04, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I guess you're probably right. - unsigned comment from Alolan Raichu (talk • contribs)

Rowlet in the Wrong Nest

Is it possible Rowlet as an egg had fallen from its nest or been abounded from its parents and the Toucannon found it. Or another possibility Rowlet species has bit of behavior of the cuckoo bird to drop their egg in another bird species nest so they can raise it.--DragoAlex (talk) 13:43, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

We avoid such speculation here. If you'd like to speculate like that, please use the forums. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:17, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

I tried to but the email never came to confirmed. I been trying buts a headache please help?DragoAlex (talk) 14:37, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Then inquire through the forums, with the Contact feature. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:48, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

It saids I banned ;( I just join and they say I band for violations?--DragoAlex (talk) 14:52, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, what's your username on the forums?--ForceFire 16:33, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Crush

It appears as though Rowlet got a crush on Mallow's Steenee, based on the ending scene of the episode where Bounsweet evolved. Pikatwig (talk) 18:21, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

So? It doesn't prove Rowlet's Gender. Rowlet could be a lesbian or non-binary.--BlisseyandtheAquaJets (talk) 19:44, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

...I'm not talking about gender, I'm just saying that Rowlet appears to have a crush and that's it. Pikatwig (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

That's speculation until it's explicitly stated (not just implied or "appears as though"). Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Combo Move Note

Should it be mentioned that the name of the combo move that Rowlet did with Steenee is a play on the Japanese name for 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt? If you need to see the proof, here it is.

ひっさつのモクシュート １０００まんボルト

Pikatwig (talk) 18:02, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

"Its Ultra Guardians uniform is not sufficient proof" Um, ok...?

Someone's honestly gonna have to explain why that's the case instead of just saying it outright and I'm not specifically talking about Rowlet here, because it contradicts a time when removable accessories were used to confirm a Pokémon's gender in the past. Case in point: Party Dancecapades!, where Serena's Pancham, Clemont's Dedenne, and James's Inkay were confirmed as males because they wore blue bowties to the party.

From the get-go, I've been having difficulties understanding why you've been treating the Ultra Guardian stuff as such a fundamentally different case, particularly because the confirmed females (Tsareena and Togedemaru) coincidentally have ribbons or bows on their badges that the confirmed males (Pikachu and Turtonator) don't have. I know you don't like speculation here, but I must be honest and say I think the animators have made the visual indicators too blatant for you to hold out and reasonably call it such. If you're so dead-set on this stance then shouldn't we start deconfirming those three dudes (and Pierre's Klefki, alongside those gals Miette's Slurpuff and Aria's Delphox) from XY?

If I'm wrong, please tell me why because I'm positive it's not just me seeing this. Thank you. _{Sneaking from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost...} Gengarzilla! 22:09, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Because in that episode, it was actually stated that the boys had to dance with the girls. Here, it wasn't stated whether the accessories were gender specific and could've just been the trainer's preference to give their Pokémon those accessories. Just because it happened one time, doesn't mean it's true every other time. Just because a female Pikachu, Venusaur, and Butterfree has appeared in the anime, doesn't mean every other gender difference exists.--ForceFire 07:06, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Evolved/NFE

I have no interest in whether the actual trivium goes on the page or not, but Force Fire, you are completely and totally wrong. How, exactly, do you think Rowlet being the only unevolved somehow implies it's the only not-fully-evolved? Walk me through it, because your logic makes no sense. If anything, the inverse is closer to being true (but still doesn't quite work without prior knowledge). Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

What does Torracat, or any other mid stager not being fully evolved, have anything to do with the reasoning? A Pokémon can't be fully evolved if it hasn't evolved in the first place.--ForceFire 05:31, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

You are not understanding what I am saying. I don't think you even understand what you are saying. Let me try to make it clear.

Other people are trying to add the trivium "Rowlet is the only Pokemon on Ash's Alola team that has not evolved, and the only one that is not fully evolved. Let us call these Claim 1 and Claim 2, respectively.

You have reverted this, saying that Claim 1 implies Claim 2. But that's completely wrong and a lapse in logic.

If Claim 1 is true, Claim 2 can either be true (if all others are fully evolved) or false (if both Rowlet and somebody else are not fully evolved).

So there is no logical way to conclude Claim 1's truth automatically means Claim 2 is also true. You need more information than that. It doesn't just "imply" it automatically. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:44, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

You're looking way too deep and way too hard into this. It's doesn't need to be that complicated.

If Torracat hadn't evolved, than yes, it wouldn't be the only one that isn't fully evolved. But since it has, and everyone else is fully evolved (or at least evolved once), then that makes Rowlet the only one that hasn't fully evolved. But since it hasn't evolved at all, and since a Pokémon cannot be fully evolved if it has not evolved at all, it not being fully evolved is already implied by it not having evolved in the first place.

"Claim 2 can either be true (if all others are fully evolved)" proves my point. Everyone else is fully evolved (bar Pikachu, but he wasn't caught in Alola, like the trivia is saying). Ash has no other Alolan second stager that would disprove my point.--ForceFire 05:58, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Well, yes, of course if you already know everybody else is fully evolved, then you know everybody else is fully evolved. Duh. That's tautological.

Claim 1 does not imply Claim 2 just because you already know from separate knowledge that Claim 2 is true. That's not how logic works.

I'm not trying to argue that Claim 2 is false. I'm arguing that Claim 1's truth in and of itself does not automatically imply Claim 2 is true, as you seem to think. Both claims have separate truth values that are not dependent on one another. You need prior knowledge, it doesn't work by implication. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:25, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

The first sentence in my second response already covers it, but you're being waaaaaaaaaay too complicated and thinking waaaaaaay too hard on this. It's not that complex and doesn't have to be that complex. It shouldn't matter if someone doesn't know that all but Rowlet is fully evolved, that's not our problem to solve. That's on the user to figure that out on their own. The trivia is working on the assumption that everyone knows all but Rowlet is fully evolved.--ForceFire 06:36, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Then just say that! Don't make up a bunch of bullshit about things implying things. Again, I don't care about the trivium itself, I'm just upset about the bad logical reasoning behind it. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:40, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Japanese transcription

Why is "サトシのモクロー" transcribed as "Satoshi's Mokuroh"? It's mixing japanese names with english grammar. I know many people prefer to use japanese names when still talking in English but that's rather their quirk than something official. In my opinion trancription should only show how to pronounce japanese text.--Rocket Grunt 18:30, 15 February 2021 (UTC)