Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number

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• Ultra Necrozma
• Add Eternal Flower Floette
• Genesect form names
• Update and protection level
• Browt, Pombon, and Gecqua

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Ultra Necrozma

As stated in, Forms of Pokémon that should be added into this list, earlier on this page people want Ultra Necrozma to be added to the List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number. I beilive that Ultra Necrozma should be added to this list because Dusk Mane and Dawn Wings Necrozma (and Black and White Kyurem) have already been added to this list, as Ultra Necrozma is also a fusion between pokemon. And that is why I belive Ultra Necrozma should be added to List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number. 0Clod&sire (talk) 23:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I believe that Ultra Necrozma is missing because it's a battle temporary form, just like Mega Evolution.--Rocket Grunt 13:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

This is an odd requirement. Castform, Cherrim, Darmanitan, Meloetta, Aegislash, Xerneas, Wishiwashi, Minior, Mimikyu, Cramorant, Eiscue, Morpeko, Zacian, Zamazenta, Palafin, and Terapagos do have battle-exclusive forms listed. Hewer (talk) 17:22, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Pokémon like Castform and Cherrim have form differences that are recognized by the Pokédex. Ultra Necrozma is not recognized as a form difference of Necrozma. It's simply a temporary transformation only seen in battle. Landfish7 17:53, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Hmm, actually correction. Ultra Necrozma seems to have previously been recognized. I'll look into this further. Landfish7 17:57, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

It is recognised in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon (the only core series games it appears in), as well as Pokémon HOME. Hewer (talk) 18:00, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, probably just an oversight then. I'll add it. Landfish7 18:10, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

A point I was also trying to make is, why are Mega Evolutions excluded? It seems like an arbitrary requirement. Hewer (talk) 23:08, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Add Eternal Flower Floette

Title. Much like Bloodmoon Ursaluna is listed, Eternal Flower Floette should also be listed now that Legends: Z-A is out and you can obtain it. Superstarxalien (talk) 15:33, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

done. anZAsquiddles 2222(:D)SSSS (talk) 22:29, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

Genesect form names

As of Legends ZA, Genesect's forms have been renamed in the Pokédex to "Douse Drive", "Shock Drive", "Burn Drive", and "Chill Drive" (with the default form having no name), they're no longer all called "Genesect". Also while we're at it, Groudon and Kyogre should have their "form names" removed from this page unless we add their Primal forms, as the Pokédex in Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl proves that the default forms don't have form names when the Primal forms aren't included. Hewer (talk) 01:23, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

done. anZAsquiddles 2222(:D)SSSS (talk) 01:11, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Update and protection level

Reckon this might need an update. Also, it's probably fine to lower the protection level to a semi-protection (at least until Winds/Waves have been released).--ForceFire (talk) 06:00, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

Updated with what? We don't know the Pokédex numbers of the new Pokémon yet, so it'd be silly to add them to a "list of Pokémon by National Pokédex number" right now. Storm Aurora (talk) 06:32, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

You can add them without the dex numbers as we have done in the past.--ForceFire (talk) 06:40, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

Personally since this page basically acts as a "list of Pokémon" page I dont see the harm of a (temporary) "Pokémon with number unknown" section at the bottom of this page; that would also alleviate that concern. 4iamking 07:47, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

Browt, Pombon, and Gecqua

Now that Pokémon Day passed, I think we should add the Winds & Waves starters: No. 1026 Browt, No. 1029 Pombon, and No. 1032 Gecqua.- unsigned comment from Tlj001 (talk • contribs)

At present, those numbers are unconfirmed as we don't know for certain if the Winds & Waves dex will continue the tradition of grass, fire, water starter in that order. Until we get confirmation of their dex numbers, we won't be adding them at present.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 01:16, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

I don't feel that strongly about whether they should be here but I do want to point out that this is the first time in Bulbapedia history there has been refusal to add newly announced Pokémon to this page. Before the start of every previous new generation since Bulbapedia has existed (Generations 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9), the newly announced Pokémon were added to the bottom of this page with unknown numbers. Hewer (talk) 10:31, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

This is also the first time in Bulbapedia history that we've had newly announced Pokémon at the same time as we have an article detailing new Pokémon. That page literally opens with a section listing all the new Pokémon. My opinion is that it's better to direct readers to that article if they want to see a list of Pokémon that have been revealed but don't have Pokédex numbers, rather than adding Pokémon that don't have Pokédex numbers to a page whose stated purpose is to organize Pokémon by Pokédex number. Storm Aurora (talk) 14:45, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

That's fair enough. Hewer (talk) 08:25, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Or they may do a Victini again and start the Dex with something that isn't a starter. Kikugi (talk) 11:07, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Until we get full confirmation about the Dex numbers, they won't be added because at the moment, that is speculation.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 11:24, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

That's what I've been saying too, this was just another reason why we must wait. Kikugi (talk) 12:59, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

I think it's probably fine as long as we don't make any assumptions about their natdex numbers. The lede of this article was technically incorrect previously, as there are not only 1025 Pokemon anymore. Minibug (talk) 13:38, 16 April 2026 (UTC)