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Contests
Should contests categories use type colors? Page [1] uses its own colors.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 09:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Some color changes for the future
For some time, the colors for Red, Green, and Blue have been a bit of a strain eyes due to how saturated they are. In the near future, the color scheme for these three will be changed to be easier for people to look at when reading various pages.
Current colors used:
| Red color light | E77E66 | {{Red color light}}
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| Red color | DA3914 | {{Red color}}
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| Red color dark | 8E250D | {{Red color dark}}
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| Green color light | 71C671 | {{Green color light}}
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| Green color | 24A724 | {{Green color}}
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| Green color dark | 176D17 | {{Green color dark}}
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| Blue color light | 778DE6 | {{Blue color light}}
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| Blue color | 2E50D8 | {{Blue color}}
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| Blue color dark | 1E348C | {{Blue color dark}}
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New proposed colors to make reading of various templates and galleries easier:
Light Blue - 768de5
Blue - 2e50d8
Dark Blue - 1d348c
Light Green - 70c670
Green - 24a724
Dark Green - 176d17
Light Red - ef737d
Red - e72838
Dark Red - 961a24
If anyone has other suggestions, I am open to them.
Also, any other core series game colors needing changes should be proposed here to help keep track of everything easier. Thank you~ Frozen Fennec 03:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- This sounds good, theres a few other colour templates that I would like to bring forth for consideration and input:
- Type colours: currently theses are based on Gen 3 games (with Fairy being its own invention); these dont really line up to the modern game very well as such I would suggest we change them to be in line with what is used in Scarlet and Violet. What this would look like can be seen here.
- Stat colours are currently based on our type colours, these could be adjusted to use the mint/feather colours
- TCG: I would suggest a few changes here:
{{TCG Supporter color}}I would change from red to orange, to better match the ingame cards (fellow EP wikis 52 pokéwiki and WikiDex also use orange){{Tcg fighting color}}Since the proposed change would likely clash with the fighing colour, I would make this more brown (also to better match the colour on the cards){{Tcg darkness color}}We have issues with this template because of how dark it is, it contrasts poorly with text, can be lighened up and be given a blue tint as on the cards.{{TCG ACE SPEC color}}This template was recently created, and is functionally unused, it also doesnt follow the criteria for what we normally would make a TCG color template for, as such I would delete/archive it.
- FR/LG colours could also get an update to be less saturated
- Colours for the DLC expansions would be a good addition (Isle of Armour / Crown Tundra / Teal Mask / Indigo Disk) would be a welcome addition.
- Think I got everything, if anyone has other colours feel free to add. 4iamking 08:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just to mention,
{{Tcg metal color}}has come up as another colour to reevaluate (currently quite brown comparted to what it should be), I think a general evaluation of all TCG colours is in order. 4iamking 16:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Just to mention,
- Desaturating these colours seems like a very good idea; especially the "blue color", which can be very jarring. A general review of our colours to see if they still match the current ones used by TPC would be a good idea, as 4iamking mentioned. I also agree that we should have proper colour templates for the DLC, rather than reusing other colour templates. - bthrussellUK (talk) 09:25, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- One other thing I wanted to highlight is just general consistancy in names as well, the fact that we capitalize the names of some TCG templates and others not makes them somewhat confusing to use. 4iamking 10:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Desaturating these colours seems like a very good idea; especially the "blue color", which can be very jarring. A general review of our colours to see if they still match the current ones used by TPC would be a good idea, as 4iamking mentioned. I also agree that we should have proper colour templates for the DLC, rather than reusing other colour templates. - bthrussellUK (talk) 09:25, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I support the updates to the RGB and type colors. Landfish7 18:35, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- RGB colors have been updated. Type colors, and TCG colors above, if possible, will be taking care of in the days ahead when I can. One think I would like to add as being looked at is the Physical Attack colors since they seem to run into similar issues as Red with the Red and Orange color combo being a bit of an eye strain honestly. Any suggestions on how to improve them? Frozen Fennec 06:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- For Physical Attack, I don't think there is any need for the text colour to be orange. It should be white to ensure there is enough contrast and maintain readability. - bthrussellUK (talk) 07:59, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- RGB colors have been updated. Type colors, and TCG colors above, if possible, will be taking care of in the days ahead when I can. One think I would like to add as being looked at is the Physical Attack colors since they seem to run into similar issues as Red with the Red and Orange color combo being a bit of an eye strain honestly. Any suggestions on how to improve them? Frozen Fennec 06:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
More color proposals from Discord
DLC's
Decided on Discord, makes sure none of the game colors overlap. Using various official sources. SwSh DLC's will need to be created, SV DLC's only exist as redirects.
Isle of Armor color light - FDE060
Isle of Armor color - FCD00B
Isle of Armor color dark - A48707
Crown Tundra color light - 66CA9C
Crown Tundra color - 15AE68
Crown Tundra color dark - 0D7143
Teal Mask color light - 59C3BB
Teal Mask color - 00A398
Teal Mask color dark - 006A62
Indigo Disk color light - 5987A7
Indigo Disk color - 004878
Indigo Disk color dark - 002E4E
Stats
Using feather and mint colors, stat colors otherwise are all over the place. The original colors were just randomly selected type colors, somehow with so many official colors we managed to pick unoficcial ones.
HP color light - FFE58C
HP color - FFD84F
HP color dark - A68C33
Attack color light - F98785
Attack color - F74844
Attack color dark - A02E2C
Defense color light - 96A4FC
Defense color - 5E74FB
Defense color dark - 3D4BA3
Special Attack color light - 8AE1FF
Special Attack color - 4CD1FF
Special Attack color dark - 3188A6
Special Defense color light - FFA9D3
Special Defense color - FF7BBC
Special Defense color dark - A6507A
Speed color light - 9AD995
Speed color - 64C55D
Speed color dark - 41803C
- An alternative, darker color has been suggested for HP. It is from the HP Candy from LGPE. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 21:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- HP color light - FFDE83
- HP color - FFCD41
- HP color dark - A6852A
- Alternative scheme below, based from colours in XY, which coincidentally were the only mainline game to assign colours to the stats. Given that the ingame colours are very chalky, I used the game colours for the light colour, to base the midtone and dark colour off of, I think this scheme works really well with our templates as well. 4iamking 21:54, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- HP light - 77F296 (XY Color) HP light - A7F7BB
- HP - 2EEB5D HP - 77F296 (XY Color)
- HP dark - 1E993D HP dark - 4D9D62
- HP light - 77F296 (XY Color) HP light - A7F7BB
- Attack light - F4E486 (XY Color) Attack light - F8EDB0
- Attack - EED545 Attack - F4E486 (XY Color)
- Attack dark - 9B8B2D Attack dark - 9F9457
- Attack light - F4E486 (XY Color) Attack light - F8EDB0
- Defense light - FEB17A (XY Color) Defense light - FECCA9
- Defense - FD8732 Defense - FEB17A (XY Color)
- Defense dark - A55821 Defense dark - A5734F
- Defense light - FEB17A (XY Color) Defense light - FECCA9
- Special Attack light - 88DEE2 (XY Color) Special Attack light - B2EAEC
- Special Attack - 48CCD2 Special Attack - 88DEE2 (XY Color)
- Special Attack dark - 2F8589 Special Attack dark - 589093
- Special Attack light - 88DEE2 (XY Color) Special Attack light - B2EAEC
- Special Defense light - 859FFF (XY Color) Special Defense light - B0C1FF
- Special Defense - 436BFF Special Defense - 859FFF (XY Color)
- Special Defense dark - 2C46A6 Special Defense dark - 5667A6
- Special Defense light - 859FFF (XY Color) Special Defense light - B0C1FF
- Speed light - D880FF (XY Color) Speed light - E6ACFF
- Speed - C33CFF Speed - D880FF (XY Color)
- Speed dark - 7F27A6 Speed dark - 8C53A6
- The games have had persistent stat colors since Gen III. glikglak 11:06, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, if you base the decision off stat boosting items, the colour palette you end up with will be all over the place depending on what set of items you choose: I feel your already making one proxy collection just linking a stat to an item, but the lack of consistancy makes this evident. 4iamking 11:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vitamins' colors? I don't like them because Defense and Sp. Def would be both represented by green in this case. --C.Ezra.M (talk | contribs) 11:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree its 2 reds (or well a red+orange), 2 blues; 2 greens in that case, the other green being SPE not SPD. The other thing to keep in mind is items are known for their sprites not changing after the item is introduced and they dont always match, when we know the colour... I.e. the Draco Plate is red despite the type more being associated with deep blues and occasionally yellow-gold as in the TCG. Finally just if anyone wanted to see it, heres the two proposed schemes in action. 4iamking 11:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- A chart featuring every instance the franchise associated stats with colors. [2]
- We were using this on Discord. There is no right answer here, but I believe basing our colors off of mints and feathers is more right than the rest. Feathers have been using the colors since Gen V, and GF made a conscious decision to model the mints after them in SwSh, when they could have just continued using the LGPE colors. There are now two VGC-hosting mainline games that have two sets of stat boosting items (nature changing is stat boost) that align in color. Mints have become frequently used, so it's fair to say users would have an easier time associating their colors with the stats than the darkened versions of a few pixels from an 11-year-old game. In short, the feather/mint colors are official, recent, current, and consistent. There are further issues with using the XY colors other than the fact that they were abandoned by the next game in the same generation: it's the only time Attack is yellow, Sp. Defense is blue and Speed is purple. The mints and feathers use colors that have been used elsewhere, with the exception of Sp. Defense, which is just all over the place, but Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack and Speed all use colors that have been assigned to them prior in the series. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 12:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree its 2 reds (or well a red+orange), 2 blues; 2 greens in that case, the other green being SPE not SPD. The other thing to keep in mind is items are known for their sprites not changing after the item is introduced and they dont always match, when we know the colour... I.e. the Draco Plate is red despite the type more being associated with deep blues and occasionally yellow-gold as in the TCG. Finally just if anyone wanted to see it, heres the two proposed schemes in action. 4iamking 11:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Vitamins' colors? I don't like them because Defense and Sp. Def would be both represented by green in this case. --C.Ezra.M (talk | contribs) 11:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, if you base the decision off stat boosting items, the colour palette you end up with will be all over the place depending on what set of items you choose: I feel your already making one proxy collection just linking a stat to an item, but the lack of consistancy makes this evident. 4iamking 11:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- The games have had persistent stat colors since Gen III. glikglak 11:06, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Speed light - D880FF (XY Color) Speed light - E6ACFF
![[2]](https://i.imgur.com/E6NvonW.png){kind=link}
(resetting indent)You've mixed up the vitamin colors there. And I should've clarified, I was referring to the caps of the vitamins, they're the much more prominent color on their sprites and are actually distinct. glikglak 12:56, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I still don't want the vitamin cap colors because the Sp. Atk and Sp. Def colors would be just very similar shades of orange. --C.Ezra.M (talk | contribs) 13:01, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's orange and light brown. And saturation adjustments have to happen regardless. glikglak 13:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Changing gears a bit, the game mechanic that is HP has always been green. glikglak 13:30, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Just to bring the current developments from the Discord chat to the wiki, the XY colours are also used in Masters EX to reprent the stats themselves on stat screens and thus can be directly attributed to the stat itself rather than just being the colour of an item that affects the stats in some way. I think right now this palette is the front running solution though it can still be tweaked based on feedback and testing in real use situations. 4iamking 17:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Added the palette using XY colours as midtones colours for comparison sake, use cases would need to be checked but I do not believe it to be advisable. 4iamking 01:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- What was the reasoning behind changing them in the first place? The new colors are kinda jarring (and a bit garish on fire type pages specifically, they clash really bad with the (also newish) red) considering how long the old colors were in use, regardless of how arbitrary they may have been. Stat colors used in one game from several generations ago are barely less arbitrary than what's been in use for years, though. Inco (talk) 08:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- The stat colours are also appearing in the current generation in Masters EX, and are they only colours they have been officially associated with in a way that doesnt involve making a proxy connection (like associating to a stat affecting item). Additionally this change puts us in line with the majority of other Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis wiki's who have used the official colours long before us. 4iamking 13:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- What was the reasoning behind changing them in the first place? The new colors are kinda jarring (and a bit garish on fire type pages specifically, they clash really bad with the (also newish) red) considering how long the old colors were in use, regardless of how arbitrary they may have been. Stat colors used in one game from several generations ago are barely less arbitrary than what's been in use for years, though. Inco (talk) 08:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Added the palette using XY colours as midtones colours for comparison sake, use cases would need to be checked but I do not believe it to be advisable. 4iamking 01:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Just to bring the current developments from the Discord chat to the wiki, the XY colours are also used in Masters EX to reprent the stats themselves on stat screens and thus can be directly attributed to the stat itself rather than just being the colour of an item that affects the stats in some way. I think right now this palette is the front running solution though it can still be tweaked based on feedback and testing in real use situations. 4iamking 17:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Changing gears a bit, the game mechanic that is HP has always been green. glikglak 13:30, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's orange and light brown. And saturation adjustments have to happen regardless. glikglak 13:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Move categories
More recent colors.
Physical color light - F19073
Physical color - EB5628 Physical textcolor - FFF064
Physical color dark - 98371A
Special color light - 899CE2
Special color - 4B68D3 Special textcolor - 91E1E1
Special color dark - 304389
Status color light - ADADAD
Status color - 828282 Status textcolor - EAEAE5
Status color dark - 545454
Posting more soon. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Changed the text color so you can see how it interacts with the backgrounds. The Physical textcolor template is a big improvement on what we have currently. However the readability of Special color light and the textcolor may be challenging. - bthrussellUK (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Changing the Special and Status text colors isn't really a big deal. We can make them brighter and nobody would even notice they are different from the games thanks to the limits of how our eyes perceive thin lines inside chunks of solid color.
- Special textcolor - 91E1E1
- Special textcolor - 96E8E8
- Special textcolor - 9DF2F2
- Status textcolor - EAEAE5
- Status textcolor - F2F2ED
Pockets
The light and dark colors need alteration because they were taken from the game as is rather than being determined by our method, which causes issues, such as light and mid colors being almost idential or light and dark colors being totally different.
Apricorn color light - F5C168
Apricorn color - current color, not changing
Apricorn color dark - 9C680F
Battle items color light - 78A1EA
Battle items color - current color, not changing
Battle items color dark - 1F4891
Berries color light - 6DC187
Berries color - current color, not changing
Berries color dark - 14682E
Cologne color light - D2CCDB
Cologne color - current color, not changing
Cologne color dark - 797382
Ingredients color light - C98262
Ingredients color - current color, not changing
Ingredients color dark - 702909
Items color light - DB9CB6
Items color - current color, not changing
Items color dark - 82435D
Key items color light - B687E5
Key items color - current color, not changing
Key items color dark - 5D2E8C
Mail color light - 68B6CB
Mail color - current color, not changing
Mail color dark - 0F5D72
Medicine color light - EAA17D
Medicine color - current color, not changing
Medicine color dark - 914824
Poké Balls color light - DBB16D
Poké Balls color - current color, not changing
Poké Balls color dark - 825814
TMs and HMs color light - ACC66D
TMs and HMs color - current color, not changing
TMs and HMs color dark - 536D14
Treasures color light - F6DA8B
Treasures color - current color, not changing
Treasures color dark - 9D8132
Z-Crystals color light - CEB289
Z-Crystals color - current color, not changing
Z-Crystals color dark - 755930
Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 20:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- I've added in the current middle colors to make it easier to see how the new colors work. I think these are all positive changes, and are an improvement on what we currently have. - bthrussellUK (talk) 18:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Egg group colors
Time to make proper egg group color templates with light and dark variants, the hex codes of which are used on the individual pages already. This would also allow us to use the colors in infoboxes, the Poké Maniac page is a good candidate. I suggest using the word "egg" for all of these templates as to differentiate between the five egg groups that are also types (Dragon, Bug, Grass, Fairy, Flying). The few templates that use these colors, like the move entry templates, would only need to have the word "egg" added twice in the right positions. Doing this will allow us to tweak the colors (since they are fan made) or change them if they ever get official ones.
The suggestion consists of several moves, color changes, and creation of new templates, but it's been a long time coming. It's all very reasonable.
Monster egg color light - E18D9A
Monster egg color - D25064
Monster egg color dark - 883441
Water 1 egg color light - BBCEFD
Water 1 egg color - 97B5FD
Water 1 egg color dark - 6275A4
Water 2 egg color light - A3BDFB
Water 2 egg color - 729AFA
Water 2 egg color dark - 4A64A2
Water 3 egg color light - 92A5D4
Water 3 egg color - 5876BE
Water 3 egg color dark - 394C7B
Bug egg color light - C7D774
Bug egg color - AAC22A
Bug egg color dark - 6E7E1B
Flying egg color light - CCBDFB
Flying egg color - B29AFA
Flying egg color dark - 7364A2
Field egg color light - EAD59C
Field egg color - E0C068
Field egg color dark - 917C43
Fairy egg color light - F3BCC8
Fairy egg color - EE99AC
Fairy egg color dark - 9A636F
Grass egg color light - ADE193
Grass egg color - 82D25A
Grass egg color dark - 54883A
Human-Like egg color light - E1BAAD
Human-Like egg color - D29682
Human-Like egg color dark - 886154
Mineral egg color light - A8988E
Mineral egg color - 7A6252
Mineral egg color dark - 4F3F35
Amorphous egg color light - B2B2B2
Amorphous egg color - 8A8A8A
Amorphous egg color dark - 595959
Ditto egg color light - C59AD5
Ditto egg color - A664BF
Ditto egg color dark - 6C417C
Dragon egg color light - A883FF
Dragon egg color - 7A42FF
Dragon egg color dark - 4F2AA6
No Eggs Discovered egg color light - 7A7A7A
No Eggs Discovered egg color - 333333
No Eggs Discovered egg color dark - 212121
Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 21:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- An alternative naming scheme was suggested: (Egg "Egg Group" color) similar to (TCG Fire color) Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 21:42, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
New TCG colors
More from Discord. Color revamp similar to the main types. Type colors are taken from page 4 of this: https://www.pokemon.com/static-assets/content-assets/cms2/pdf/trading-card-game/rulebook/par_rulebook_en.pdf
Metal is a darkened version of the icon from page 3 of this https://www.pokemon.com/static-assets/content-assets/cms2/pdf/trading-card-game/tcg-alternative-play-handbook-en.pdf
Item, Tool, and Supporter are color picked from the cards' text, Stadium was lightened not to cause confusion with TCG Grass.
TCG Ability takes the old color of TCG Supporter, it's very similar in color to TCG Fire, but the two colors won't interact.
TCG Colorless color light - E2E0E0
TCG Colorless color - D2D0CF
TCG Colorless color dark - 898787
TCG Darkness color light - 78A9B1
TCG Darkness color - 2F7A87
TCG Darkness color dark - 1F4F58
TCG Dragon color light - BEBA77
TCG Dragon color - 9B952D
TCG Dragon color dark - 65611D
TCG Fairy color light - EE8BB4
TCG Fairy color - E54C8B
TCG Fairy color dark - 95315A
TCG Fighting color light - D89E78
TCG Fighting color - C3692F
TCG Fighting color dark - 7F441F
TCG Fire color light - E07384
TCG Fire color - D02742
TCG Fire color dark - 87192B
TCG Grass color light - 62CC8A
TCG Grass color - 0DB14B
TCG Grass color dark - 087331
TCG Lightning color light - FFE359
TCG Lightning color - FFD400
TCG Lightning color dark - A68A00
TCG Metal color light - BEC0B4
TCG Metal color - 9B9E8C
TCG Metal color dark - 65675B
TCG Psychic color light - BFB0D5
TCG Psychic color - 9D85BE
TCG Psychic color dark - 66567C
TCG Water color light - 59CCF2
TCG Water color - 00B1EB
TCG Water color dark - 007399
TCG Item color light - 5BA4D6
TCG Item color - 0273C0
TCG Item color dark - 014B7D
TCG Pokémon Tool color light - A394C5
TCG Pokémon Tool color - 725BA6
TCG Pokémon Tool color dark - 4A3B6C
TCG Supporter color light - F09270
TCG Supporter color - E85823
TCG Supporter color dark - 973917
TCG Stadium color light - 97DB84
TCG Stadium color - 5FC741
TCG Stadium color dark - 3E812A
TCG Ability color light - E86F6F
TCG Ability color - DC2222
TCG Ability color dark - 8F1616
Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 23:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Just to add,
{{Tcg colorless color}}would not change and stay as it currently is, if we used the colours from the sources above we would derive at something that is even closer to white than the current template, and therefore this is not desired. Otherwise I wanted to say (though as an involved party) that I support these changes. 4iamking 00:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Rulebook TCG Colorless color light - E4E3E5 Alternative Play TCG Colorless color light - E2E0E0
- Rulebook TCG Colorless color - D6D4D7 Alternative Play TCG Colorless color - D2D0CF
- Rulebook TCG Colorless color dark - 8B8A8C Alternative Play TCG Colorless color dark - 898787
- Rulebook TCG Colorless color light - E4E3E5 Alternative Play TCG Colorless color light - E2E0E0
- TCG Rulebook Darkness color light - 78A9B1 TCG Alternative Play Darkness color light - 77A2A7
- TCG Rulebook Darkness color - 2F7A87 TCG Alternative Play Darkness color - 2E7077
- TCG Rulebook Darkness color dark - 1F4F58 TCG Alternative Play Darkness color dark - 1E494D
- TCG Rulebook Darkness color light - 78A9B1 TCG Alternative Play Darkness color light - 77A2A7
- TCG Rulebook Dragon color light - BEBA77 TCG Alternative Play Dragon color light - B9B679
- TCG Rulebook Dragon color - 9B952D TCG Alternative Play Dragon color - 948F31
- TCG Rulebook Dragon color dark - 65611D TCG Alternative Play Dragon color dark - 605D20
- TCG Rulebook Dragon color light - BEBA77 TCG Alternative Play Dragon color light - B9B679
- TCG Rulebook Fairy color light - EE8BB4 TCG Alternative Play Fairy color light - E486AB
- TCG Rulebook Fairy color - E54C8B TCG Alternative Play Fairy color - D6457E
- TCG Rulebook Fairy color dark - 95315A TCG Alternative Play Fairy color dark - 8B2D52
- TCG Rulebook Fairy color light - EE8BB4 TCG Alternative Play Fairy color light - E486AB
- TCG Rulebook Fighting color light - D89E78 TCG Alternative Play Fighting color light - CC997A
- TCG Rulebook Fighting color - C3692F TCG Alternative Play Fighting color - B16232
- TCG Rulebook Fighting color dark - 7F441F TCG Alternative Play Fighting color dark - 734021
- TCG Rulebook Fighting color light - D89E78 TCG Alternative Play Fighting color light - CC997A
- TCG Rulebook Fire color light - E07384 TCG Alternative Play Fire color light - E66F80
- TCG Rulebook Fire color - D02742 TCG Alternative Play Fire color - D8223B
- TCG Rulebook Fire color dark - 87192B TCG Alternative Play Fire color dark - 8C1626
- TCG Rulebook Fire color light - E07384 TCG Alternative Play Fire color light - E66F80
- TCG Rulebook Grass color light - 62CC8A TCG Alternative Play Grass color light - 6AC588
- TCG Rulebook Grass color - 0DB14B TCG Alternative Play Grass color - 19A648
- TCG Rulebook Grass color dark - 087331 TCG Alternative Play Grass color dark - 106C2F
- TCG Rulebook Grass color light - 62CC8A TCG Alternative Play Grass color light - 6AC588
- TCG Rulebook Lightning color light - FFE359 TCG Alternative Play Lightning color light - FDE06F
- TCG Rulebook Lightning color - FFD400 TCG Alternative Play Lightning color - FCD021
- TCG Rulebook Lightning color dark - A68A00 TCG Alternative Play Lightning color dark - A48715
- TCG Rulebook Lightning color light - FFE359 TCG Alternative Play Lightning color light - FDE06F
- Rulebook TCG Metal color light - D0D2C5 Alternative Play TCG Metal color light - BEC0B4
- Rulebook TCG Metal color - B6BAA6 Alternative Play TCG Metal color - 9B9E8C
- Rulebook TCG Metal color dark - 76796C Alternative Play TCG Metal color dark - 65675B
- Rulebook TCG Metal color light - D0D2C5 Alternative Play TCG Metal color light - BEC0B4
- TCG Rulebook Psychic color light - BFB0D5 TCG Alternative Play Psychic color light - BAABC8
- TCG Rulebook Psychic color - 9D85BE TCG Alternative Play Psychic color - 957DAB
- TCG Rulebook Psychic color dark - 66567C TCG Alternative Play Psychic color dark - 61516F
- TCG Rulebook Psychic color light - BFB0D5 TCG Alternative Play Psychic color light - BAABC8
- TCG Rulebook Water color light - 59CCF2 TCG Alternative Play Water color light - 5DC6E6
- TCG Rulebook Water color - 00B1EB TCG Alternative Play Water color - 05A8D9
- TCG Rulebook Water color dark - 007399 TCG Alternative Play Water color dark - 036D8D
- TCG Rulebook Water color light - 59CCF2 TCG Alternative Play Water color light - 5DC6E6
- Lightened TCG Stadium color light - 97DB84 Regular TCG Stadium color light - 94D282
- Lightened TCG Stadium color - 5FC741 Regular TCG Stadium color - 5BB93F
- Lightened TCG Stadium color dark - 3E812A Regular TCG Stadium color dark - 3B7829
- Lightened TCG Stadium color light - 97DB84 Regular TCG Stadium color light - 94D282
- DF TCG Supporter color light - F09270 Alt TCG Supporter color light - F5946F
- DF TCG Supporter color - E85823 Alt TCG Supporter color - F05A22
- DF TCG Supporter color dark - 973917 Alt TCG Supporter color dark - 9C3B16
- DF TCG Supporter color light - F09270 Alt TCG Supporter color light - F5946F
- DF TCG Pokémon Tool color light - A394C5 Alt TCG Pokémon Tool color light - A191C5
- DF TCG Pokémon Tool color - 725BA6 Alt TCG Pokémon Tool color - 6E56A5
- DF TCG Pokémon Tool color dark - 4A3B6C Alt TCG Pokémon Tool color dark - 48386B
- DF TCG Pokémon Tool color light - A394C5 Alt TCG Pokémon Tool color light - A191C5
- Supporter TCG Ability color light - E86F6F Card Text TCG Ability color light - D76468
- Supporter TCG Ability color - DC2222 Card Text TCG Ability color - C21016
- Supporter TCG Ability color dark - 8F1616 Card Text TCG Ability color dark - 7E0A0E
- Supporter TCG Ability color light - E86F6F Card Text TCG Ability color light - D76468
- I have come around over
{{Tcg colorless color}}and added it to the list, like metal colour using the darker shade from the alternative play guide. I also updated the light/dark in DF's post based on our formula. I added both considered Metal and Colourless options above for comparison sake, if we wanted consistancy we would use rulebook colours but the alternative play manual colours do provide slightly better contrast in certain situations. 4iamking 22:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)- Alternative Play TCG Grass color - 19A648 Regular TCG Stadium color - 5BB93F
- Oki slight update, added the rest of the alternative play colours, I would recommend using these as they do match the card checklists. With these colours I think the colour differentiation between grass and the regular stadium colour is enough that we dont need to do any modifications to the stadium colour, as such I would recommending using the origional colour from the card, which I also left above. 4iamking 01:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Alternative Play TCG Grass color - 19A648 Regular TCG Stadium color - 5BB93F
- I have come around over
Contest colors
Contest ribbon colors
I found some ribbon colors that have been used since 2011, but after all this time, they don't have templates. We may have to change that in the future. ThunderBrine (talk) 23:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Cool Ribbon color light - FF7267
Cool Ribbon color - FC3528
Cool Ribbon color dark - 940C15
Beauty Ribbon color light - 96BCF9
Beauty Ribbon color - 6098F8
Beauty Ribbon color dark - 233E8C
Cute Ribbon color light - F1C8D0
Cute Ribbon color - F098A8
Cute Ribbon color dark - 913D4D
Smart Ribbon color light - CCF4A6
Smart Ribbon color - B0F070
Smart Ribbon color dark - 43AE2A
Tough Ribbon color light - F3E18F
Tough Ribbon color - F8D840
Tough Ribbon color dark - A28221
League Ribbon color light - E77C6B
League Ribbon color - E85840
League Ribbon color dark - 8E1B1B
Memorial Ribbon color light - F7F8C7
Memorial Ribbon color - F0F060
Memorial Ribbon color dark - 989820
Gift Ribbon color light - 8DB4F4
Gift Ribbon color - 5585D4
Gift Ribbon color dark - 1A4996
Other Ribbon color light - D8D8E0
Other Ribbon color - B4B4C8
Other Ribbon color dark - 8181A9
Contest condition colors
Cool color light - FBA595
Cool color - F9765D
Cool color dark - A24C3C
Beautiful color light - 9AD2E8
Beautiful color - 65BADC
Beautiful color dark - 41798F
Cute color light - FFC3CE
Cute color - FFA4B4
Cute color dark - A66A75
Clever color light - BEDF72
Clever color - 9CCE27
Clever color dark - 658619
Tough color light - FEE498
Tough color - FED761
Tough color dark - A58B3F
From ORAS. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 01:19, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- these are based on ORAS, but I think BDSP colours would be better. The other thing with these is the naming needs to be considered, both for this and the condition pages themselves, since it changes in every game. Right now the Clever and Beautiful colour templates need to be moved to match the page. The current colours from gen 6 name the conditions as adjectives, whereas in gen 8 its as a verb (cool vs coolness as an example). 4iamking 17:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Beauty color light - 99D2E4
- Beauty color - 62BAD6
- Beauty color dark - 40798B
- Beauty color light - 99D2E4
- Cleverness color light - 95D7A9
- Cleverness color - 5CC27A
- Cleverness color dark - 3C7E4F
- Cleverness color light - 95D7A9
- Coolness color light - F1A390
- Coolness color - EA7154
- Coolness color dark - 984937
- Coolness color light - F1A390
- Cuteness color light - EFADCE
- Cuteness color - E681B3
- Cuteness color dark - 965474
- Cuteness color light - EFADCE
- Toughness color light - EAD675
- Toughness color - DEC02B
- Toughness color dark - 907D1C
- Toughness color light - EAD675
- Lighter Contest color light - D5B4EE Darker Contest color light - AC91CC
- Lighter Contest color - BE8CE5 Darker Contest color - 8056B0
- Lighter Contest color dark - 7C5B95 Darker Contest color dark - 533872
- This would be the BDSP colours but im going to preface this by saying its an approximation, as we do not have the assets on the wiki, they probably are a few points off on the colourwheel from the actual game assets. For
{{Contest color}}, to give it some differentiation I have two proposals both sourced from BDSP, the first is the background colour of the contest tab in a pokémon's summary screen, the second one is the colour used to highlight the Sheen mechanic, which retains its purple colour from earlier generations. 4iamking 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)- Want to add that in addition to these moves I would also suggest we fold Battle frontier colours and Pokéthlon stat colours into these, since they pull from the same coloursheet and it will allow us to reduce or dependance on redundant templates for gimmicks that appeared in 1-2 games. 4iamking 16:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Lighter Contest color light - D5B4EE Darker Contest color light - AC91CC
Ruby and Sapphire color proposal
While this project for color updates began with a desire to update Red, Green, and Blue; I have recently come to notice another set of games needing their colors updated as it can make links or text a bit hard to read at times.
Current Ruby colors:
Ruby color light - C15959
Ruby color - A00000
Ruby color dark - 680000
Proposed Ruby colors (pulled from JP boxart):
Ruby color light - E67587
Ruby color - D82B47
Ruby color dark - 8C1C2E
Current Sapphire colors:
Sapphire color light - 5959C1
Sapphire color - 0000A0
Sapphire color dark - 000068
Proposed Sapphire colors (pulled from JP boxart):
Sapphire color light - 858CBD
Sapphire color - 434E99
Sapphire color dark - 2C3363
Would love to get feedback on the proposed colors and if there might be a better color set to use for these two games. I have no proposed colors for Emerald since it does not seem to have readability issues. Frozen Fennec 04:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- While Emerald doesn't have readability issues, it's awfully similar to the color for Pokémon Green Version, so either changing Emerald to make it more distinct from Green, or changing Green to make it more distinct from Emerald, might not be a bad idea. Landfish7 11:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think we can wait with Emerald until we know what color we're gonna use for LZA to make sure all the greens are distinct enough. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 11:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ruby color light - DF6F7C
- Ruby color - CD2236
- Ruby color dark - 851623
- Ruby color light - DF6F7C
- I think we can wait with Emerald until we know what color we're gonna use for LZA to make sure all the greens are distinct enough. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 11:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sapphire color light - 818FC6
- Sapphire color - 3D51A7
- Sapphire color dark - 28356D
- Sapphire color light - 818FC6
- Emerald color light - 59BB8F
- Emerald color - 009652
- Emerald color dark - 006235
- Im just gonna post my proposal (sourced from japanese logos), I think they work well and Tested for contrast against both white and black text, all fall within the range of 2.9-7.16 so I forsee no issues here. against other game templates the only similarity really is Sapphire against Shadows of Almia colour but given thats a spinoff and not generally put next to each other I think thats fine. otherwise I think this is my recomendation. 4iamking 23:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Emerald color light - 59BB8F
New colors for the Gen IV games
The original colors we used didn't really have anything to do with the actual games, these are more representative and still distinct. Platinum is actually very often depcited as being gold (in the game, in the TCG, as its game icon, JP logo), but after a lengthy Discord discussion, we ultimately decided to not use gold as to not be confusing. It is a custom color set, but so was the former one. It fits the game and its name better, while not being a radical leap from what users are used to. These new colors were received with unanimous acceptance on Discord, I'm sure users here will enjoy the changes as well. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 01:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Current Diamond colors:
Diamond color light - C8C8FF
Diamond color - AAAAFF
Diamond color dark - 6F6FA6
Proposed Diamond colors (pulled from JP boxart):
Diamond color light - B6D4F3
Diamond color - 90BEED
Diamond color dark - 5D7B9A
Current Pearl colors:
Pearl color light - FFC8C8
Pearl color - FFAAAA
Pearl color dark - A66F6F
Proposed Pearl colors (pulled from JP boxart):
Pearl color light - E8A9CC
Pearl color - DD7CB1
Pearl color dark - 8F5073
Current Platinum colors:
Platinum color light - BDBDBD
Platinum color - 999999
Platinum color dark - 646464
Proposed Platinum colors (added a goldish tint):
Platinum color light - C1C1B4
Platinum color - A0A08D
Platinum color dark - 68685B
Current HeartGold colors:
HeartGold color light - CFC059
HeartGold color - B69E00
HeartGold color dark - 766700
Proposed HeartGold colors (pulled from JP boxart):
HeartGold color light - F0CE5A
HeartGold color - E8B502
HeartGold color dark - 977501
Current SoulSiver colors:
SoulSiver color light - D6D6EB
SoulSiver color - C0C0E1
SoulSiver color dark - 7D7D92
Proposed SoulSiver colors (pulled from JP boxart):
SoulSiver color light - C7D1DF
SoulSiver color - AAB9CF
SoulSiver color dark - 6E7886
- These colour changes are now implemented (with the light and dark colours slightly corrected to adjust to our standard). On a personal level, I do feel Platinum is a bit of a missed oppertunity here as I feel we are basicially saying we prefer gray (In my opinion subjectively) and are willing to make an exception for that game and pick a colour that has a different source from the others to meet that need. In my opinion somewhat undermining the purpose of the main goal of the colour overhaul which is to standardise to official sources, and the sources we would use to pick the D/P colours would all suggest platinum be a gold with greyish undertones, similar to the old heart gold colour we used to have (and is also used by our sister Chinese language wiki). Anyway I realise that there are strong feelings attached to that colour and the concensus was not there, but I do feel it important to note what occured with the disccusion, should it ever come up again in the future. 4iamking 15:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
More color proposals
These colors come from a handful of sources:
- Gold light - E7C46E Gold light - F7E870
- Gold - DAA520 Gold - F3DB37
- Gold dark - 8E6B15 Gold dark - 9E8E24
- Gold light - E7C46E Gold light - F7E870
- Silver light - D6D6D6 Silver light - DBDFEC
- Silver - C0C0C0 Silver - C7CDE2
- Silver dark - 7D7D7D Silver dark - 818593
- Silver light - D6D6D6 Silver light - DBDFEC
- Crystal light - 8CE6FF Crystal light - F8EFFA
- Crystal - 4FD9FF Crystal - F4E6F7
- Crystal dark - 338DA6 Crystal dark - 9F96A1
- Crystal light - 8CE6FF Crystal light - F8EFFA
- Black 2 light - 848A8D Black 2 light - B9B8B9
- Black 2 - 424B50 Black 2 - 949293
- Black 2 dark - 2B3134 Black 2 dark - 605F60
- Black 2 light - 848A8D Black 2 light - B9B8B9
- White 2 light - EDDFE0 White 2 light - F1F1F1
- White 2 - E3CED0 White 2 - E9E9E9
- White 2 dark - 948687 White 2 dark - 979797
- White 2 light - EDDFE0 White 2 light - F1F1F1
These colors come from the edges of the text in the JP boxart.
- TCG Fire color light - E66F80 TCG Fire color light - EC98A5
- TCG Fire color - D8223B TCG Fire color - E16175
- TCG Fire color dark - 8C1626 TCG Fire color dark - 923F4C
- TCG Fire color light - E66F80 TCG Fire color light - EC98A5
- TCG Darkness color light - 77A2A7 TCG Darkness color light - 9EB1B5
- TCG Darkness color - 2E7077 TCG Darkness color - 6A878D
- TCG Darkness color dark - 1E494D TCG Darkness color dark - 45585C
- TCG Darkness color light - 77A2A7 TCG Darkness color light - 9EB1B5
Pulled from Page 4 of Scarlet & Violet - Paradox Rift rulebook. Frozen Fennec 14:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Legends:Z-A
With the new info dropped on Pokémon Day, and an actual website for the game live, we now have 4 viable colours that exist:
- Cyan light - 60D0E4
- Cyan - 0BB7D6
- Cyan dark - 07778B
- Cyan light - 60D0E4
- Gray light - 989CA6
- Gray - 606776
- Gray dark - 3E434D
- Gray light - 989CA6
- Green light - 7BCFA5
- Green - 34B575
- Green dark - 22764C
- Green light - 7BCFA5
- Pink light - FCE4E9
- Pink - FAD6DD
- Pink dark - A38B90
- Pink light - FCE4E9
The Cyan is the dominant colour in the new website, and seems based on pre-release images to be used extensively within the in-game interface, presumably to give the "high tech digital" vibe. A few similar shades are used, the exact shade I suggested is pulled from the TPCi website of the game. The gray comes from the text used on the official Japanese website and can also be found in the game logo as the text of "Pokémon Legends". Green and Pink are both pulled from the official website's loading wheel but arent used in much other official material. Similar shades can be found in the game's logo. Its worth considering that the Pink if we go that way may need to be darkened as it does not contrast well with white text.
I will leave the discussion open, so we can decide on a game colour, if theres any other colours that should be considered, feel free to add them to the suggestions. 4iamking 18:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- As an involved proposer I will state that my preferences, based on their official usesage are: Gray > Cyan >>> Green > Pink. 4iamking 18:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Green seems the most sensible to me. It's featured in the logo and seems to have prominent recurring appearances in-game, such as in the environment and even on the clothes of the player characters. Landfish7 20:27, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- I also think green is the best choice. On top of the reasons Landfish cited, it's also the primary color of Zygarde, who is the only Legendary Pokémon currently associated with the game. Storm Aurora (talk) 20:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- I will put in another vote for green Minibug (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Having thought about it a bit more I think Cyan is probably the best - mainly because its heavily used in the marketing, and the game footage we have seen so far shows that it will be the most prominent colour in the UI, also it was the colour used to outline the city in the first trailer. Also it being a colour that isn't on the logo (ironically) to me makes it make more sense as it doesn't feel like we are favouriting one of those over the other. I still struggle with green because outside of the logo, and its connotations to Zygarde, it is nearly absent in any other promotional material for the game. 4iamking 20:56, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- I like the green, but I have concerns about how similar it is to other greens we use:
- Green color light - 71C671 Z-A Green light - 7BCFA5
- Green color - 24A724 Z-A Green - 34B575
- Green color dark - 176D17 Z-A Green dark - 22764C
- Emerald color light - 59BB8F Z-A Green light - 7BCFA5
- Emerald color - 009652 Z-A Green - 34B575
- Emerald color dark - 006235 Z-A Green dark - 22764C
- Crown Tundra color light - 66CA9C Z-A Green light - 7BCFA5
- Crown Tundra color - 15AE68 Z-A Green - 34B575
- Crown Tundra color dark - 0D7143 Z-A Green dark - 22764C
- We might want to see if there is another shade of green we can extract from the logo? - Rustle (talk) 23:20, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- This could work. It's a blend of the green from the loading wheel and a vibrant color derived from the game logo. This seems relatively distinct and I think it's decently fitting. What do we think?
- Legends Z-A light - 92D8A4
- Legends Z-A - 58C372
- Legends Z-A dark - 397F4A
- Legends Z-A light - 92D8A4
- Landfish7 18:11, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I like it, it seems distinct enough from the other shades of green (not that they're gonna show up in the same place very often, anyways), I'm in favor of using it. Storm Aurora (talk) 04:57, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- I also support the above 58C372 green shade. → SuperPikaPool13 09:47, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good to me :) - Rustle (talk) 01:29, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- I also support the above 58C372 green shade. → SuperPikaPool13 09:47, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- I like it, it seems distinct enough from the other shades of green (not that they're gonna show up in the same place very often, anyways), I'm in favor of using it. Storm Aurora (talk) 04:57, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- This could work. It's a blend of the green from the loading wheel and a vibrant color derived from the game logo. This seems relatively distinct and I think it's decently fitting. What do we think?
- Having thought about it a bit more I think Cyan is probably the best - mainly because its heavily used in the marketing, and the game footage we have seen so far shows that it will be the most prominent colour in the UI, also it was the colour used to outline the city in the first trailer. Also it being a colour that isn't on the logo (ironically) to me makes it make more sense as it doesn't feel like we are favouriting one of those over the other. I still struggle with green because outside of the logo, and its connotations to Zygarde, it is nearly absent in any other promotional material for the game. 4iamking 20:56, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- I will put in another vote for green Minibug (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- I also think green is the best choice. On top of the reasons Landfish cited, it's also the primary color of Zygarde, who is the only Legendary Pokémon currently associated with the game. Storm Aurora (talk) 20:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Green seems the most sensible to me. It's featured in the logo and seems to have prominent recurring appearances in-game, such as in the environment and even on the clothes of the player characters. Landfish7 20:27, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
(resetting indent) It's been suggested we could do a slightly deeper hue as well, which I honestly think is a bit more appealing, has better readability, and is more distinct, even if it gets us a bit further from the exact colors in the logo.
- Legends Z-A light - 79DD91
- Legends Z-A - 31ca56
- Legends Z-A dark - 208338
- Legends Z-A light - 79DD91
Landfish7 17:37, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I like it, it's even more distinct than the previous suggestion! Storm Aurora (talk) 06:58, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Champions
This newly announced game will also need a colour template, we have a few options based on official assets. The Game's official abbreviation is "CP".
- Blue light - 5E5A9F
- Blue - 07016B
- Blue dark - 050146
- Blue light - 5E5A9F
- Gold light - FBE87D
- Gold - F9DB37
- Gold dark - A28E24
- Gold light - FBE87D
- Green light - E9FEBD
- Green - DDFD9A
- Green dark - 90A464
- Green light - E9FEBD
The Blue, is the main colour used to promote the game thus far. Yellow comes primarily from the logo. Green is the accent colour used on the website (again this doesnt contrast well with white text). 4iamking 18:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Don't we use black text on colored backgrounds more often thwn white text? Black text is practically unreadable even on that blue light color. Green doesnt seem strongly associated with the game after watching the trailer, so my vote is for the gold (though even that's a little hard to read white text on...) Storm Aurora (talk) 20:48, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- I havent formed any strong opinion yet, but we generally prefer the midtone colour to be one you can combine with both white & black text. 4iamking 21:00, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
Retiring Templates
Additionally, I suggest we retire certain templates, namely {{Alder color}}, {{Cynthia color}} and {{Pokémon color}}(including related light/dark varients). These templates do not meet the standard of what we would deadicate a colour template for in modern times. We do not assign colour templates to individual characters, While "Pokémon" colour represents a colour the official website used about a decade ago with little modern day relevance. As a remedy and to mitigate colour template bloat, I suggest the templates be deleted and any existing use cases be replaced with hex codes or similar colour templates depending on use case. 4iamking 18:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with retiring Alder color and Cynthia color, but I'm less certain about Pokémon color. It seems to be used as a generic color for game-related things, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing to have. Storm Aurora (talk) 20:55, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is its really a colour the official website used in circa 2010-2012... It doesn't age well or really represent the franchise in any meaningful way. By not having it, it would force bigger consideration to what colour is used for those titles (if relevant) and if not we can always use bulba colour as a backdrop even if that should generally be avoided. 4iamking 21:03, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- It reminds me of the color of Poké Balls, which are perhaps the most recognizable symbol of the Pokémon franchise. So I think that makes it a pretty meaningful representation of the franchise. Storm Aurora (talk) 22:04, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why Bulba colour should be avoided? It's the colour of the site and thus is a good neutral colour. Honestly, outside of core and side series titles, I think we should use Bulba colour for the other games rather than the ugly patchwork we have on many pages currently. - Rustle (talk) 22:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- I was more talking from a point of historic president since the colour has typically been reserved for official pages; I still think it's better to use as a "default" colour over what we have as a Pokémon colour, either way I'll let the discussion on its use case continue.
- Given past discussion and the fact that this discussion has died down; I shall retire the Alder and Cynthia colours as there has always been broad consensus against needing these colours. They shall be replaced by hex codes on the relevant pages to avoid upsetting any visual styles they were used for. As for the Pokémon colour, for now we shall keep this as the consensus for retiring the template has not yet been achieved. 4iamking 15:40, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is its really a colour the official website used in circa 2010-2012... It doesn't age well or really represent the franchise in any meaningful way. By not having it, it would force bigger consideration to what colour is used for those titles (if relevant) and if not we can always use bulba colour as a backdrop even if that should generally be avoided. 4iamking 21:03, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
Paldea color proposal
As the title says, I want to change the currently assigned colors for Paldea to these ones instead:
- Paldea color light- #6FA2D5
- Paldea color - #327bc4
- Paldea color dark - #235689
- Paldea color light- #6FA2D5
The reason for this is that I’ve noticed no core series region has been assigned the color marine blue, and I think Paldea—a region inspired by a Mediterranean country like Spain and surrounded by four in-game seas—would actually suit these colors better and be better represented, specifically Mediterranean blues, rather than the current brownish ochres.
PS: possible interested users: Landfish7.
Greetings. Namornen (talk) 18:00, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Our regions are not completely random; the game pokédex does actually give a lime-green colour for the paldea region but there were concerns this would clash too much with our Kanto colour. Most regions colours are based on the guidebook of the respective region; but this isn't the case for Paldea as 1) the guidebooks came very late and wern't released outside of japan, so thats how we ended up with the current colour.
- If we were to follow whats used in the guidebook though we'd end up with a slightly more yellow, less brown colours:
- Paldea (2024 guidebook) - Light - #E8CC59
- Paldea (2024 guidebook) - Regular (taken from header in book) - #DCB000
- Paldea (2024 guidebook) - Dark - #8F7200
- Paldea (2024 guidebook) - Light - #E8CC59
- That said, I wouldnt mind tweaking it as the books came out after the colour was decided upon but it shouldnt be something completely made up. 4iamking 23:10, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Also i wanted to say the colour you are suggesting would clash a lot with the blueberry academy 4iamking 23:14, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right, that blue match too much with blueberry. Namornen (talk) 23:18, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- I think this color palette would work well. Should we add it?
- Paldea (2024 guidebook) - Light - #E8CC59
- Paldea (2024 guidebook) - Regular (taken from header in book) - #DCB000
- Paldea (2024 guidebook) - Dark - #8F7200
- Paldea (2024 guidebook) - Light - #E8CC59
- Also i wanted to say the colour you are suggesting would clash a lot with the blueberry academy 4iamking 23:14, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Or the Mediterranean Blue alternative, although It class a bit with Blueberry.
- Paldea color light- #6FA2D5
- Paldea color - #327bc4
- Paldea color dark - #235689
- Paldea color light- #6FA2D5
- Namornen (talk) 00:53, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- I think we should give others time to voice their opinions before we make any changes; these templates are used in a lot of places. - Rustle (talk) 00:58, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- Between the yellow and blue I prefer the yellow. It's a bit similar to some of the other shades of yellow we have (Isle of Armor, HeartGold, etc.) but I don't think it's super likely to be used in close proximity to them. The blue on the other hand is awfully similar to the Blueberry color as noted before but also to the Hisui color, which would cause problems on the regional form page. That being said, I think keeping the current Paldea color is also fine. So in summary my preferences are 1) Keep the color as is 2) Change it to yellow 3) Change it to blue. Storm Aurora (talk) 04:09, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer the yellow colors as it sets it apart from the other main regions, maybe aside form the Isle of Armor, but I don't think it'd be used in tandem with those set of colors very frequently. Blue clashes with Unova, Hisui, and Blueberry in my opinion, so it's better to have Paldea be unique. That, and it follows closely to was the guide has, making it somewhat official.--ForceFire 06:34, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- That’s right, I think it’s good to use the yellow color from the Paldea Guide (2024 guidebook), for a certain degree of officiality and consistency with the others. Namornen (talk) 11:43, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- If a consensus develops to change it we will do so in due time, but it's important to give that discussion the time it needs to ensure we make an informed choice.
- To document my personal opinion here, I think the colour should be changed to the yellow as well since it would then share a similar source with other region colours and there would be no clashes colour-wise; and the current brown was made up as an interim solution since at the time we didn't have anything to use as super strong evidence (other than the lime green used by the game) to base our colour around. Blue is a non-starter for me because even disregarding the obvious colour clash; its a completely made up with no reference to the actual region, and we should really only be making up colours as a last resort when we don't have enough official material to make a more informed choice. 4iamking 12:11, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'm in favor of using the guidebook colors, and my testing seems to bring up no issues. Landfish7 11:22, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, the change to the guidebook colour seems sensible. - Rustle (talk) 22:52, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is a pretty strong consensus to update the colour, so I have gone ahead and done so. 4iamking 07:11, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, the change to the guidebook colour seems sensible. - Rustle (talk) 22:52, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'm in favor of using the guidebook colors, and my testing seems to bring up no issues. Landfish7 11:22, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- That’s right, I think it’s good to use the yellow color from the Paldea Guide (2024 guidebook), for a certain degree of officiality and consistency with the others. Namornen (talk) 11:43, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer the yellow colors as it sets it apart from the other main regions, maybe aside form the Isle of Armor, but I don't think it'd be used in tandem with those set of colors very frequently. Blue clashes with Unova, Hisui, and Blueberry in my opinion, so it's better to have Paldea be unique. That, and it follows closely to was the guide has, making it somewhat official.--ForceFire 06:34, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- Between the yellow and blue I prefer the yellow. It's a bit similar to some of the other shades of yellow we have (Isle of Armor, HeartGold, etc.) but I don't think it's super likely to be used in close proximity to them. The blue on the other hand is awfully similar to the Blueberry color as noted before but also to the Hisui color, which would cause problems on the regional form page. That being said, I think keeping the current Paldea color is also fine. So in summary my preferences are 1) Keep the color as is 2) Change it to yellow 3) Change it to blue. Storm Aurora (talk) 04:09, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- I think we should give others time to voice their opinions before we make any changes; these templates are used in a lot of places. - Rustle (talk) 00:58, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- Or the Mediterranean Blue alternative, although It class a bit with Blueberry.
Mega Dimension
New DLC means we need a new colour! As per previous practice with PLA, I've redirected the templates to our unknown type colour as a placeholder until consensus dictates an "official" colour for us to use. To get this conversation started, I have 2 initial colours to suggest:
- Light: Option 1 - D9ABE8 Option 2 - CEAEE8
- Midd: Option 1 - C57DDC Option 2 - B382DC
- Dark: Option 1 - 80518F Option 2 - 74558F
Both colours are taken from Japanese promotional materials; but my preference is definitely towards Option 1. Option 1 was taken from the official website, more specifically the buttons around Hoopa's Stats; whereas option 2 is the approximate midpoint of the promotional background that is used on the Japanese pokemon.co.jp main page and the promotional art for the pre-order distributions. Beyond that I shall leave this open for discussion :) 4iamking 15:19, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- I like Option 1 better as well, it reminds me of Hoopa more (a more pink-ish purple shade). — Lakelimbo (talk) 16:44, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- I like Option 1, it's closer to Hoopa's purple (which is almost the Psychic color so cannot be used). Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 17:06, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- The color on Hoopa that's close to the Psychic color is pink, not purple. Of the proposed colors, the shade closest to Hoopa's purple (the main color of its body) is Option 2's light color. Option 2's colors also seem closer to the shading used for Hoopa's body in the teaser trailer, so I prefer Option 2. Storm Aurora (talk) 17:58, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- I do think it's important to keep in mind though that the colour we ultimately go with is a colour first and formost for the DLC; and not an implicit "Hoopa colour" (though obviously Hoopa is quite related to the theme used). Neither colour that I suggested was directly picked from palate used in Hoopa's model; Both colours were taken from the Japanese website theme (since there isn't a separate English website theme) and the logo is quite multicoloured. 4iamking 18:09, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Well, both colors seem equally relevant to the DLC, so in that case I'd go with the one that I think is more visually appealing. Which is still option 2 :P Storm Aurora (talk) 20:08, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- I do think it's important to keep in mind though that the colour we ultimately go with is a colour first and formost for the DLC; and not an implicit "Hoopa colour" (though obviously Hoopa is quite related to the theme used). Neither colour that I suggested was directly picked from palate used in Hoopa's model; Both colours were taken from the Japanese website theme (since there isn't a separate English website theme) and the logo is quite multicoloured. 4iamking 18:09, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- The color on Hoopa that's close to the Psychic color is pink, not purple. Of the proposed colors, the shade closest to Hoopa's purple (the main color of its body) is Option 2's light color. Option 2's colors also seem closer to the shading used for Hoopa's body in the teaser trailer, so I prefer Option 2. Storm Aurora (talk) 17:58, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Ok, for now I have set the template colour to option 1; as that is the colour that received the most support and is also the most "official". I will note though that if there are any problems with the colour or if future release material dictates we should use a different colour, then new colour proposals are always welcome and those discussions can be had at that time. That said, we do not have very many games with purple colours (really only XD and Violet) so I don't foresee this colour really causing us that many problems. 4iamking 21:53, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
Lumiose color
It's currently the Frontier color, which is blue. I guess we use this for cities. It should probably be the ZA color. In the pokedex entry section the ZA tab is blue which is pretty random. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 15:20, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- The Blue is on purpose and is only a temporary solution. We were thinking of using a cyanish colour because it is heavily been used in marketing the game and showing off the city. 4iamking 15:24, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- For Pokédex tab specifically, I think should imo link to the game not the region... we also dont have it as "Lumiose dex", since this isnt how it's called in the game. 4iamking 15:26, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Lumiose color being a redirect to Legends ZA color would be in line with the pattern of Hisui, Kitakami, and Blueberry colors being redirects to Legends Arceus, Teal Mask, and Indigo Disk colors. → SuperPikaPool13 15:27, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Lumiose isn't exclusive to ZA. Landfish7 15:34, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- It should probably say Kalos instead of Lumiose, and could use the Kalos color. I don't think there is any issue with that. It's the only Kalos game for the gen. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 15:41, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Kalos Red feels a bit wierd to me for representing Lumiose specifically and thats also just for the bigger region. I dont think there's anything wrong with giving it its own colour, since for the purpose of the game it is its own "region" just contained within another. 4iamking 15:49, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- If the game uses an obvious and distinct color for Lumiose, then fine, but I don't see any issue with representing the capital of a region with the region's color. It makes a lot of sense, and it's not confusing for users either. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 15:50, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- And that's kinda the thing, all the street signs, landmark signs and the official website promotional material are a cyanish-turquoise shade. I think we have enough material to justify it as a "Lumiose colour" 4iamking 15:55, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- If the game uses an obvious and distinct color for Lumiose, then fine, but I don't see any issue with representing the capital of a region with the region's color. It makes a lot of sense, and it's not confusing for users either. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 15:50, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Kalos Red feels a bit wierd to me for representing Lumiose specifically and thats also just for the bigger region. I dont think there's anything wrong with giving it its own colour, since for the purpose of the game it is its own "region" just contained within another. 4iamking 15:49, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- It should probably say Kalos instead of Lumiose, and could use the Kalos color. I don't think there is any issue with that. It's the only Kalos game for the gen. Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 15:41, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Lumiose isn't exclusive to ZA. Landfish7 15:34, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Lumiose color being a redirect to Legends ZA color would be in line with the pattern of Hisui, Kitakami, and Blueberry colors being redirects to Legends Arceus, Teal Mask, and Indigo Disk colors. → SuperPikaPool13 15:27, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- For Pokédex tab specifically, I think should imo link to the game not the region... we also dont have it as "Lumiose dex", since this isnt how it's called in the game. 4iamking 15:26, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
Pokopia
As we approach the release of this game, i think we can start talking about a more permanant colour for this game. While the Ditto egg colour we use does kinda suit it, it is quite dull compared to the pastel colour pallet used in this game. As such I have two suggestions for the permanent colour and am personally leaning towards option 1. Option 1 is pulled directly from the ingame menu (which we now know is widely employed throughout the game), while option 2 is what the official Japanese website uses.
- Light: Option 1 - C6ACFF Option 2 - D9BEFF Option 3 - D9A8FF
- Mid: Option 1 - A77FFF Option 2 - C59BFF Option 3 - C479FF
- Dark: Option 1 - 6353A6 Option 2 - 8065A6 Option 3 - 7F4FA6
Of course as always, the discussion is open to other colours as well, and feel free to suggest any that might be worth considering. 4iamking 16:12, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'd take from the logo, personally. Landfish7 16:13, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I've added it as option 3 but im not sure I like it considering this purple quite different from the ones used in any marketting and its use on the logo is almost a highlight (its basicially absent on the japanese logo). If we went with the logo lime green would be more representative of the game but i don't think thats the right way to go, it should also consider the palette used elsewhere in the game. 4iamking 16:22, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Option 1 seems fine then. Landfish7 16:36, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm also a fan of option 1 Storm Aurora (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Updated to option one, as it was the consensus here and also in discord. 4iamking 10:24, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm also a fan of option 1 Storm Aurora (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Option 1 seems fine then. Landfish7 16:36, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I've added it as option 3 but im not sure I like it considering this purple quite different from the ones used in any marketting and its use on the logo is almost a highlight (its basicially absent on the japanese logo). If we went with the logo lime green would be more representative of the game but i don't think thats the right way to go, it should also consider the palette used elsewhere in the game. 4iamking 16:22, 11 February 2026 (UTC)