Talk:Giovanni

Reacting Faster

In battle Giovanni kicks his Pokéballs, much like Crystal, in order to be able to react faster.
Should this be: in order to make his Pokémon react faster?
- Jshadias 13:30, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I'm almost positive it's referring to Giovanni's own reaction time, although the reverse could simultaneously be true. --ANinyMouse 20:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Think his name comes from Don Giovanni? Giovanni could be called a Don, though a different kind of one, and we already have another eighth Gym Leader as being named after him. -Happy Mask Man 00:13, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

How could Kicking Pokéballs make HIM react faster?. I mean he sits in a chair in the shadows. First, if there in his pockets or on a belt, how COULD he kick them. If they were in front of him, Persian could knock them into battle. Or they would roll. Second. How could kicking his Pokéballs make his Pokémon react faster? Even if he shot a slowpoke's pokéball out of a bazooka, that has nothing to do with Pokémon's reation time.--Machamp ion 15:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Machamp_ion raises an interesting point here. I'd say he does it just for style. --Kyoufu Kawa 16:28, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I put my _ in your post, but anyway, Yeah him or his pokemon, no difference in reaction times here I tested it my self with life size Pokéball toys and a buddy. No difference except the balls rolled into battle and would returned the pokémon in battle.--Machamp ion 16:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Uh, no comment on the wording of the line, but you're totally confusing him with his anime counterpart. The manga incarnation of him does not "sit on a chair in the shadows" and isn't even known to have a Persian. Capsule Computer 01:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Forget me if I am wrong but due to the fact that the Special is considered to be what Satoshi Tajiri wanted the game world to be like and the fact that Nintendo approves of every thing that happens in it and the anime wouldn't Silver being Giovanni's son has been confirmed by the Big N. Bobtherandomguy 17:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, we wouldn't argue that in the games Lance is evil, would we? We wouldn't argue that in the games the RB hero is called Ash instead of Red, would we? There are many common story elements among the manga, anime, and games, but there are many distinct differences that keep them from being synonymous media. IIMarckus 01:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Tajiri actually said it is the most accurate portrayl of the world he imagined, he did not say it WAS the world he imagined. And Giovanni doesn't kick his Poke Balls for anyone's reaction time. The reason he in fact does this is to get the Pokemon out quicker. He counts how long in seconds it will take him to do everything, so he tries to shave off as many seconds as possible in any way he can, not so he or his Pokemon can react faster. Also, Machamp ion's point doesn't really make sense, he's thinking of the anime's portrayl of Giovanni, I don't recall Giovanni once sitting in a chair in the Special, nor does he have a Persian. The author of that sentence is referring to the Special manga, judging by the mention of Crystal, who does in fact kick her balls in Special.

Red in relation to hair?

What was the debate? --Dual 18:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

A very good question, I've always wondered that... I mean, what else COULD it mean but that his kid's hair is red? TTEchidna^G_SDS! 06:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe the debate was over what exactly qualifies as "red hair." After that clue was revealed there was a lot of speculation, reaching as far as Blue (Because the FRLG art of blue has that orange/brown kinda hair.) and Misty, there was even minor speculation that Jessie could be the kid (this was short lived seeing as she is an Anime only character, Pokémon Yellow being the exception.) So from that branched the debate of what "red hair" is exactly. Trainer-c 07:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Deoxys

Didn't Giovanni release Deoxys at the end of FR/LG arc? --Maxim 09:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

No, Giovanni died so Deoxys was released. I've read Volume 27. And, after Deoxys ran off, this other TR girl came along and tried to turn it into stone and--You know the rest. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links10:23 23 May 2008

Why does...

Why does Giovanni want Pikachu in the Anime? :\ I've never understood why, it's not like Ash's Pikachu is a shiny, or has some super-powerful-move or something (unless Pikachu is secretly some super powerful android Pokémon or a super powerful Clone like Mewtwo...). So yeah...Why does he want Pikachu so bad? Takoto! 18:12, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

He doesn't. Team Rocket wants Pikachu to give to "the boss" as a gift after seeing its power in EP002. PL12 19:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry ^^; It's been ages since i watched the first few episodes, i guess i forgot. Takoto! 19:19, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

It DOES know Volt Tackle, which is a "super-powerful-move" for a Pikachu.--Ozzie 19:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

True, but they started after Pikachu after they saw it's powerful Thunderbolt. PL12 19:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Uhh, yeah, but Pikachu didn't know Volt Tackle until later on in the Anime |: I know for a fact it didn't use it in any of the episodes before they met May + Max... So yeah. Takoto! 19:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Do you think it could be funny if Jessie, James, and Meowth finally brought Pikachu to the boss but Giovanni rejected him, so Team Rocket wasted the whole anime going after a worthless common rat for nothing? SeanWheeler 23:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Giovanni's kid

(Though it was most likely referring to red, considering how the pronoun "him" was used in the Japanese version with apparantly both Red and Leaf)

I deleted the previous line for two reasons: the "him" wasn't actually in the Japanese (the translation of it adds it so the wording makes more sense -- see [1]), and in the English language "him" does not necessary imply the subject is male. In any case, what do you mean by "most likely referring to Red"? That Red was actually Gio's son, or that Gideon was meant to only talk to Red? IIMarckus 23:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The red refers to his kid's hair, not his kid's name. Red has brown hair, remember? TTEchidna 23:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The Gideon quote refers to hair, yes. I'm talking about in the removed line by Weedle Mchairybug, who added it in -- I can't make sense of it, and it doesn't seem to me to be talking about hair color. IIMarckus 23:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

How the hell could he be talking about Red the character when he's the kid standing right infront of him? (If you choose the male). The player IS Red! --☆ケンジガール 02:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I can translate (apologies to Mr. Mchairybug if I get it wrong). He's trying to say that "This text was likely meant to be said to Red, rather than Leaf, because of the presence of a male pronoun in the Japanese version." It's not clear whether he's trying to say the writers wrote this only for Red because of their mistake, or Gideon's, or what. Although as IIMarckus pointed out, the pronoun was changed to masculine to awkward wording in the translation (I don't know Japanese, but I'm assuming it's because it would have been roughly equivalent to "it," which can be kind of demeaning). --Martonimos_((Talk)) 04:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm taking a Japanese class. All I know is that when any gender pronouns are used, the user is talking about themselves. There is really no such thing as "he" or "she" in a conversation. At least, not that I've learned yet. --☆ケンジガール 05:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, Martonimos. Also, I was meaning the translation (the way it was translated made it seem as though Gideon was talking to Red due to his using the Male pronoun (If he had used a different gender pronoun depending on the Gender, I wouldn't have been in this rut.)

Weedle Mchairybug 22:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon Live

Here's an excerpt from the synopsis at TRsRockin:
Delia tells Professor Oak about her less-than-perfect life in the past and her acquaintance with Giovanni. When she was a teenager, she used to hang out with a crowd of bad kids. One of her friends back then was starting up a gang that later became Team Rocket. She straightened her life out once she met Ash's father, and became the upstanding woman she is now.
So Giovanni is not Ash's father in that canon. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 15:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

|: Whatever, i was just going by the reviews of it i read on the internet. I'm off to find Deidara Doujins |: *goes off* Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 16:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Original VA Back

Well for those who watched today's episode, Ed Paul was in the credits and Craig Blair was not....this is going to cause some mixed reactions to fans.

----HoennMaster 15:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

realized he had far too many Yanma

How do we know it? He didn't say anything about it.-Billy4b2004 09:18, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Reworded. — THE TROM — 11:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon in LGFR

Are we sure he has two Rhyhorn and no Rhydon in LGFR? I don't know, having not played the games in a while. It just seems odd to me, given that he has a Rhyhorn and a Rhydon in RB and most LGFR Leaders seem to follow their RB teams and also, that his final Pokemon should not be evolved. Just seemed strange to me.

I'm pretty sure it was two Rhyhorn, although that does still seem strange --HAH⁰⁸ 19:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Appearances

I don't know about this, but should Giovanni be listed in the episode appearances for Meowth's fantasies? Jmath 19:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

It's already in the "Anime" section. R.A. Hunter B. 22:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

...

Can somebody please fix the page? I don't know what would be messing it up, and don't want to kill the thing. R.A. Hunter B. 21:38, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Someone forgot to close their div tags, but I have replaced them with a br instead. Tis safer. — THE TROM — 22:15, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought it would've been worked out when it happened a few days ago, but nobody did anything. And I'm not smart enough to do that on my own anyways. R.A. Hunter B. 22:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Roster

What Pokemon does Giovanni use in HeartGold and SoulSilver? Chomper4 21:02, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Serebii's working on cracking that right now. I think some of the others are looking for it too. Aura-Knight 22:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Giovanni in HG and SS

which role will he plays in this games? --TheRock4life 21:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

And what does he own in it? Chomper4 21:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

According to serebii.net, he is in some role involving Celebi time travelling with you and your opposite player character. He makes references to Red and you do get to battle him. Solar Dragon 21:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Celebi warps you and Kotone/Hibiki back in time, you witness Giovanni abandoning Silver, then are warped to a cave in the present and fight him. Reign 00:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

SUICIDE?

Just a little discussion on a What If:

In HGSS, after you defeat the event Giovanni match, Giovanni will walk out of the cave and a "splash" sound is heard. As his hiding spot was in Tojo Falls, he might've jumped off the cliff and drowned himself? In the English version of the event he says "The precious dream of Team Rocket has become little more than an illusion," then he walks out and a *SPLASH* noise is heard. "... ... Hey! Where has Giovanni gone?..." is then played on the radio as if to assume Giovanni is gone (dead). Feng277394 09:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Ekans and Koffing

How do we know Giovanni actually gave them to Jessie and James? It could've been their parents or friends, besides they didn't even state who gave them Kofing and Ekans.--ForceFire 09:27, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Ugoz 05:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Master ball?

Look very good at this picture.

File:SpriteGiovanni.png

He's holding a Master ball? --Gabo 2oo 22:08, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Just checked the colors on MS Paint, and yes, that is purple. R.A. Hunter Blade 22:14, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Would this be trivia-worthy? He was infiltrating Silph in order to obtain the Master Ball, yet he seems to already have one. Seems contradictory to me.--JacobCrystal 00:38, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

He could've grabbed one before the player challenges him. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 11:36, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

But didn't you battle him before in the Rocket Hideout in the basement of Rocket game corner in Celadon City? He keeps the same sprite throughout the game, so he seems to already have the Master Ball. SeanWheeler 23:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Might just mean that he managed to grab one and they're just going there to get more. I dunno, I'm guessing here. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 00:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Palette. The R on his jacket is also purple. TTEchidna 03:44, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

So maybe it's just a normal poké ball in the shadows? SeanWheeler 14:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)