Talk:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky

So is this truly MD3, as a sequel to MD2, or is it MD2.5, as a third version to EOT and EOD? TTEchidna 06:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Officially PMD3, it's the sequel (or third version, I suppose) to PMD2, carrying the story on where PMD2 left it. Cipher ^(Talk) 09:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we can be sure exactly what this game is yet. Dogasu's already calling it the Platinum to MD2. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 16:02, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Unown Lord said the official website also said the same thing. It's Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 with new quests and starter Pokémon, but it retains all of the plot, content, and things from Time and Darkness. Considering that, we should probably move this page to something that doesn't say Mystery Dungeon 3. --Zeta 19:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Agree. This should be the third version of PMD2. Since its plot is the same.-Billy4b2004 14:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

OBJECTION! Clearly, this contradicts that fact that the plot is, in fact, NOT the same. *taps papers* If you recall, Herr Billy, Grovyle and Dusknoir were seen SURROUNDED BE SABLEYE! That is not in the plot of the original PMD2 games! *plays Pursuit - Cornered (Orchestra)* This is a clear contradiction in the witness testimony! Obviously, this game is a direct sequel to the other two PMD2 games! Θρtιmαtum_Talk 15:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Even with a modified plot/story, it isn't to be understood as a third installment of the Dungeon series - it's still just a third part of PMD2. o.o I'm for moving it to something that doesn't contain "Dungeon 3" as well. --nYoo 23:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, this can't stay "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 3". It's not a third installment of the series, it's a third version of the second installment. Regardless of whether it would be "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky" or something else, it can't stay "Dungeon 3". Though I really don't see a problem with "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky" since, the movie articles have translated titles as well and a redirect would exist for those who try to find "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 3". o.o --nYoo 03:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing you haven't read the other conversations. The page is protected, and we can't do anything about the title or even update the information on the page. R.A. Hunter B. 18:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

You're right, I didn't notice the other discussion. Sorry. Kinda strange to have two of them on one talk page. o.o The fact that the page is protected isn't relevant though. It's better than having people moving it back and froth all the time. --nYoo 03:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Starter

I don't get this line : "Every starter Pokémon from the previous games can now be a partner as well, bringing the total of starting Pokémon to 21, only 19 of which are available to the player, since Meowth and Munchlax can only be selected as partners." What does it mean? You can't pick Munchlax and Meowth as the playing character? - unsigned comment from Happizelpom (talk • contribs) 23:57, 20 January 2009

Nope. Check the starter Pokémon page. - espeonA 00:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Riolu!

OK, I swear I put up a line on pic. 1 saying Riolu was the leader of the squad. If the deleter responds, if you remember this, could you please recall exactly what the f***ing h*** I said? Giratina's Embodiment 03:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Watch the language, please. It's in the page history, you can go and look yourself. — THE TROM — 04:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry. Anyways, if you're the deleter, why is it deleted? - unsigned comment from Giratina's Embodiment (talk • contribs) 20:40, 24 January 2009

Check the page history to see for yourself who deleted it and why it was deleted. — eA 20:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I did the deletion. I deleted it since I see no need for it to be mentioned, what the caption says is already enough. If I recall, you said that "Riolu seems to be a leader in this squad, seen holding a Rescue Badge" and the word "seems" don't belong in any article on the mainspace. --☆Kevzo8 02:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Release date confirmed

April 18th, 2009--RexRacer -talk 12:42, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

From? --×Kevzo8 12:49, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Serebii confirmed it on his front page with another CoroCoro scan. The box art was revealed as well. Ryuartyi 13:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Ahh. The page is protected, so an admin must be the one to add the info. ×Kevzo8 13:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed also by bluesky, and boxart revealed.--Mew a.k.a. Prmatt11 at 18:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Image...

Do you like? File:EOS.PNG It's from Serebii. ^ht14 01:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd say logo for now, and let's wait for an official box art image.×Kevzo8 02:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

And a clearer one too.--Clarky13 02:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Game Site Updated

Pokémon.co.jp was just updated with [1], showing a bunch of story information and other general info. Ryuartyi 03:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It shows that a Skymin will be involved in the story. _*tc26_* 09:23, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Plus there's a story that happened in the past, where Wigglytuff as an Igglybuff is involved. --×Kevzo8 09:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Add

Could anyone add this: File:Pmd sky giratina.png _*tc26_* 09:35, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure someone could. You could. But, um, .png format is preferred. — THE TROM — 09:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

protected _*tc26_* 09:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

D'oh. — THE TROM — 10:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

REAL FREAKIN' TITLE

THE REAL TITLE OF THE GAME IS Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky (and it's not the "third series", it's actually the third version of Darkness/Time!) Can someone with powers move the article? --Maxim 11:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

This is quiet true. We need an admin to change the title.--Clarky13 12:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the witness's statement. I see no "san" in the title. It is a third version, for sure. I demand that an admin move it to the correct title, or else be placed in contempt of court. Θρtιmαtum_Talk 12:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. Besides, they're EXACTLY THE SAME except for the side-quests and starters. Someone needs to put sidequest info in! If this is a sequel to PMD2, (which it isn't) then Emerald must be a sequel to Ruby/Sapphire! TorchicBlaziken ^{(talk•edits)} 18:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

But they didn't move Pokémon Mystery Dungeon into Pokémon Mystery Dungeon:Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 into Pokémon Mystery Dungeon:Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness. ×Kevzo8 04:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Which leaves us with a quandry. What do we call this page? 3 doesn't fit, as it's not a sequel to 2. Explorers of Sky doesn't fit, as that's not analogous to the other pages. Ideas? --((Marton imos)) 01:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

What about Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2.5? 0° 01:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

That rankles me, personally. I hate calling anything "n.5" unless it's referred to as such officially. Another idea would be to move the other pages to more standard titles, but then that begs the question as to why they're not at those titles in the first place... --((Marton imos)) 01:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge to MD2 and make special mention of the third version? Treat it like r/b/y, r/s/e, etc.? (Although that still has the analogousness issue) The Dark Fiddler - 10% Satisfaction Guaranteed! 01:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, just treat it like a third version to the first two, like Emerald is to Ruby and Sapphire. It's not exactly a sequel, since it has the same storyline, just extended. Though that doesn't really work out the title issue... ~ overgrown^sol 02:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

We should stick to official titles instead of numbers, IMO. It's like referring to The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past as "The Legend of Zelda 3"; it sort of is, sequentially, but not officially. If we don't want to have an awfully long name ("Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness", like Wikipedia does it), I'd think we should just simplify it like this: "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Darkness". Same would apply to PMD1. Memo³²⁶ 02:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

It's been moved to "Explorers of Time and Darkness" before, but it was disagreed upon because it's not one game, but two separate games, and since Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness is too long... ~ overgrown^sol 02:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Too long as in, MediaWiki can't handle titles of that length? Or too long as in, people thought it looked too long? --((Marton imos)) 03:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

It's too long to type in the Search bar. Trust me, there have been users with a 100+ character subpage before.Θρtιmαtum_Talk 11:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

That's the use of redirects. (But I don't support the title change.) --×Kevzo8 11:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Kevzo8.--Clarky13 12:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I support Pocket Monsters Mystery Dungeon 2: Explorers of the Sky. Θρtιmαtum_Talk 13:52, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't care what you all decide it should be called, the whole thing needs to be updated. I mean, heck, even Wikipedia has it updated right for once. R.A. Hunter B. 02:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I've been not very active for a while and am not sure about this. How exactly do we come to an agreement for a title? I mean, I could do a move to "Pocket Monsters Mystery Dungeon 2: Explorers of the Sky", but that makes no sense as long as others disagree, especially other sysops. o.o" If this is relevant to the Time/Darkness article title as well, maybe someone from the Editorial Board should join the discussion? --nYoo 03:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm against a merge because that's not how we treat the main-series games. But nYoo's idea has some merit. We should stick {{search}} tags at the top of each page, but I think it'd work. --((Marton imos)) 23:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Sunday title.

Copied from Filb: In der heutigen Folge 226 der wöchentlichen japanischen TV-Sendung wurde erstmals der neue Pokémon-Mystery-Dungeon-Titel ポケモン不思議のダンジョン 空の探検隊 Pokémon Fushigi no Dungeon: Sora no Tankentai, über den wir gestern ausführlich berichteten, erstmals live angespielt.

For those who don't understand German, it basically says, minus some unessecary talking: In EP 226 (Of Pokémon Sunday) a new title ポケモン不思議のダンジョン 空の探検隊 Pokémon Fushigi no Dungeon: Sora no Tankentai, which we (Filb) reported yesterday, was referenced.

Understanding no Japanese, I ask if the title differs from the one we currently have. Sunday also apparently talked about some gameplay elements, and debuted Arceus on TV, but given that the release date is still a while yet, they could still be beta. Aura-Knight 16:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah, you misunderstood. It doesn't say anything about a new title for the game. "der neue Pokémon-Mystery-Dungeon-Titel XYZ [...]" = "the new title of the Mystery Dungeon series, XYZ, [...]", as in the new entry or game or whatever. --nYoo 12:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Wigglytuff's Back Story

Now that it's been proven that the Igglybuff in the pictures is Wigglytuff, shouldn't we say he is in the main article. along with that why aren't I allowed to edit the page? - unsigned comment from TeamMegaraptor (talk • contribs)