Talk:MissingNo./Archive 1

If I remember correct MissingNo doesn't have a standard TM/HM set...- unsigned comment from Arty2 (talk • contribs)

Ehem. If MISSINGNO has a hex, it has a HM/TM list as well, asigned to the HEX. WHEEE

Darkmewham2!

I am also unsure about the validity of the HM/TM list and for its base stats too. In my opinion these values are semi-random, depending on the memory part that affects its appearence. Maybe someone can run some research on that? On and please don't come up with another "if it has a hex" line again... --Arty2 20:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I added more TMs to the list, as seen on [1]. They did extensive research into such glitches as Missingno., and came up with that TM and HM list. --Missingno. Master 10:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Hex codes for fossil/ghost

Do you think this page should include the hex codes and letters for the special Missingno. sprites? Kabutops fossil is 86 (lowercase w), Aerodactyl is 87 (lower x), and Ghost is 88 (lower y). --隼也 じゅんや 16:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Either missingno. or some other glitch somehow did permanent damage to my Red.

The bit in a rom storing the color pallete for GBC/GBA/Super Game Boy was somehow modified, and so my game has screwed up colors. Does anyone know how it's even possible for this value to be modified? I assumed it was hardcoded. Also, is there a gameshark code I could use that will correct this value? --1338h4x 23:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Does it affect the entire game? Or only happen when your game is loaded? MK 02:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The whole game, no matter how many times I erase data. Aside from the strange colors though, the rest of the game functions fine. --1338h4x 23:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's strange. I always thought the default GBC colors were coded into the system. Maybe it depends on the game. --Libertyernie 19:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

If you press buttons while the GBC is booting up, you can change the palette. I take it this defines a set handful of colors for the game to draw upon, each one assigned to a value. --1338h4x 00:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Power Plant coast?

Is it possible in Pokémon Red & Blue to catch Missingno. or other non-water Pokémon on the coast near the Power Plant rather than the Cinnabar coast? I broke my Blue (by foolishly using a Game Genie) so I can't test it out. --Libertyernie 19:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I doubt it. The reason the missingno glitch occurs is that Cinnabar has no Pokemon defined for surf encounters, despite the existance of one stip of water, the coast. As such, the variable for encounters is set at whatever it was last, like the safari zone. Old Man's weedle is either M or Missingno, I forget which. Your other encounters are determined by your name, since that's where the game chooses to store the string while replacing your name with OLD MAN. --1338h4x 00:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

DP Missingno.?

I've seen that video on YouTube before, and I figured that it needed mentioning here in Missingno.'s article, since it has the similar appearance. Anyway, does anyone have DP who's tried the glitch who can give a firsthand account? Tom Temprotran 13:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

yes get AR use the wild pokemon modifier toss 493 master balls then will come

Timer 22:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC) User:Timer

MissingNo. in the Japanese green verison?

Does MissingNo. appear in the Japanese green verison? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Asukagirl (talk • contribs).

Far as I know it does. Our Blue was based off Green's wild Pokémon, so if it's there in Blue, it's there in Green. Tom Temprotran 03:21, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Remember the old rumors?

I remember back in the day, like... eight years ago? Anyhow, I remember the stories that were circulating around GameFAQs and Pokemon fansites about... well, this and other things, but this one especially. I remember the best being that if you see missingno., you needed to immediately kill it to prevent your game from being fried. I dunno about you guys, but since this was before the internet was really huge, I start selling people khangaskans. Never hurt me, except I lost a file on my Red once. But I had like, ninty kangaskans, so I would trade them to other kids for like, twenty bucks. I was rolling in dough for several weeks. It was great.

Seafoam Islands

Why isn't the fact that MissingNo. can also be found at Seafoam Island mentioned here? Even Pokemon.com mentioned this fact once when they mentioned the Safari Zone glitch. Of coarse, they did make a mistake when they said that MissingNo. can appear if you preform the Safari Zone Glitch and not the MissingNo. glitch itself. I'd like to add that part to this article, however, I won't until someone else agrees with me on this issue or better yet, adds it themselves. --Jake 19:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it's not in here because you can't find Missingno. at Seafoam Island. Yes, its coast has the same programming error as Cinnibar, but you can't get to Seafoam Island directly from Viridian like you can with Cinnibar. You have to SURF from Fuchsia or Cinnibar, and entering a route with wild Pokemon during the glitch process effectively nullifies it. Fsilone 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

You can. Routes 19 and 20 only have data for Pokémon found while surfing. No grass. Grass data is used for the coasts. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 02:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Spacety space space

Note there is an extra space in front of the Ghost Missingno.'s name. Compare it to the regular. Thought I'd give a mention. TinaTheKirlia 22:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

...you're right... huh. Odd, because MISSINGNO. is the ten-char limit... TTEchidna 06:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Missingno. or MissingNo.?

Seriously? TTEchidna 05:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

How can we ever really tell? I mean, all names in the games are in capitals, and Missingno. is not an official character, so there's no references or published stuff to check it against... --DarkfireTaimatsu 05:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

That's my question, what was so wrong about leaving it as Missingno.?

As for references, well... we COULD ask Nintendo their stance on the name... I've had Insomniac answer more meaningless questions. TTEchidna 09:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I've seen an email by Nintendo about Missingno... and I've pretty sure they spelled it "MissingNo.". (Not that I spell it that way, haha.) TinaTheKirlia File:281MS.gif 15:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I dont think it really is a glitch, really! File:Ani491MS.gifKPF☆ 16:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC) Um. But it IS a glitch. o.o; Tina^☆♥♫δ 18:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Nintendo spells it "MissingNO". Notice the lack of a period. I think they just emphasize the last two letters in an attempt to dissuade players from going after it. I think its name is rightfully Missingno., and that the page should be moved to reflect this. If nobody objects, I will do it. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 20:02, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest sticking with Missingno. as well, similar to how we use Hoothoot instead of HootHoot. The period is pretty much mandatory too, as the games clearly show that it has one (and the abbreviation "no." always has it). IIMarckus 21:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Flawless logic if ever I heard it. Alrighty, then! If there are no objections, then the move will be effected immediately. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 21:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Mewtwo?

if you look closely at it, its pixels will somehow look like mewtwo, at least for me. hey your right --Glatra 00:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that in the square block version of MissingNo. Very interesting. Animine 22:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

You both are seeing things. TTEchidna 23:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Other forms?

Can someone upload sprites of Missingno.'s other forms? You know, the ghost (and the Wild MISSINGNO. appeared! screenshot doesn't count), the Aerodactyl skeleton, and the Kabutops skeleton? I'd do it myself, if I knew how. Missingno. Master 23:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE??? Without them, the page just doesn't seem complete. ??? 21:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

In the anime

OK, whose bright idea was it to completely erase the "in the anime" section??? --

Glitch Pokémon and Official Pokémon There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!

01:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Because, seriously, Missingno. didn't appeared in the anime. Those were ghosts created by Ghastly which was strong enough to confuse Ash's Pokedex. Does Ghastly have a move that can instantly create a Missingno. in the games? I don't think so. >_> File:Ani026MS.gifMudkipchanFile:Ani392MS.gif

Does it have a move that can create ghosts instantly? Didn't think so. Besides, why do you assume Gastly created them? For all we know, it could be its minions.

Glitch Pokémon and Official Pokémon There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!

01:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Because, my dear Wattson, the skull ghosts were gathered there and turned into Gastly. Apparently, at the same time, the lady disappeared. Optimatum♏^Talk|♊Hi 04:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

The Japanese name

Do Ketsuban come from the kana within the old japanese games? Because, a "ketsuban" is a kind of annoying moskito wich dwells in lakes and rivers. I'm mentioning this because this "non-pokemon" uses some water and "flying" attacks, wich perhaps are related to being that moskito. Someone get this? --Gaudhi 20:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It means Missing Number, actually...but that is a cool thing to bring up. User:Guy2 10:29, July 8, 2008

ARGH

Missingno =/= real Pokémon. It's basic only purpose is filler data. e____e Tina ^δ♫ 20:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you prove it? Are you absolutely positively sure?!?!!?^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 20:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sure. It's only obtainable through a glitch, you can't get it from events, it didn't appear in later games under the name of Missingno., (Others are dubbed Missingno, however they are not, they are more minor filler data), etc. Tina ^δ♫ 21:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you absolutely sure that Missingno will never appear in the anime?!!!? Are you sure that the writers won't decide to put it in an episode?!!!!? Are you sure???!!? Did you write the storyline of the Pokémon Anime Series?!!!!! NO.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Did you write the anime? Tina ^δ♫ 21:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh.....Toché....lol...--Theryguy512 21:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Argh #2

We... we really need a page protect for this page. e_e Tina ^δ♫ 21:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

....I'm telling Sketchies right now.....--Theryguy512 21:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Why would this page need protecting? Just leave the Biology section and stuff alone, and we have no problem! -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The biology section isn't needed, though. Tina ^δ♫ 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, can't you see the fairly-obvious revert war going on? That's why I want a protection request. Tina ^δ♫ 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

That would slow down Project Glitchdex.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

It'd stop this horrible revert war, though. Tina ^δ♫ 21:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Sketchies is doing it as we speak....--Theryguy512 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

No, you know what? I'LL stop this horrible revert war. I'll stop reverting the darn thing, OK? *waves white flag of defeat* -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh... *waves another white flag in defeat as well* Who knows.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

What's the Glitchdex? File:Ani413MS.gifAgggron (Talk | Edits)File:Ani412MS.gif

Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex This. -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Theryguy said that he was doing it as we speak to scare us to quit.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I was gonna quit anyway. A few relatively pointless sections aren't worth it. -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea...about that....we kinda have a problem....Sketchies doesn't know how to protect a page.....so when the next admin is on Aim, I'll tell them to portect it.....--Theryguy512 21:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

WHY??? I already said I'd stop the stupid revert war! -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! ^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

And if this page is protected, as mentioned above, Project GlitchDex will be slowed down considerably! -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Because MissingNo. is like the main Glitch.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, LOL, I'm teaching Sketchies how to protect a page, it may take a while.....--Theryguy512 21:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Finally, it's protected.....--Theryguy512 21:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Not from me. But I'm not gonna do anything.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Nope nevermind. I guess fourth time's a charm.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

WHY DID YOU HAVE IT PROTECTED??? I must've said a million times I'd stop reverting it! Is my word worth NOTHING????!?-- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Sketchies thinks that it is nothing. And that's my word too!^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't yell at Sketchies, yell at me. I was the one who told him to protect it. --Theryguy512 21:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Then I redirect that comment at you.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

This is fricking loony. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 03:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, just looking back through history, I personally have no qualms with what Missingno. Master was adding to the page, I didn't see any thing wrong with it. What WAS so wrong with it? GlinnFile:Ani202MS.gif 03:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Missingno. isn't really a Pokémon.. it doesn't have gender differences, it doesn't need a Biology section, etc... Tina ^δ♫ 03:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

It's a glitch Pokémon, it's there, it's in the game, you can not deny that. There is no problem in having biology for glitch Pokémon, because they are still actual Pokémon. What do you have against game location of Missingno.? Or it's special abilities? There is no problem with them being there. GlinnFile:Ani202MS.gif 03:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Nintendo does not consider it a Pokémon, and consensus seems to be that we don't either. We don't need a "gender differences" section for a (glitch) Pokémon that has no gender. The info in the "Special abilities" section repeated what is said in Rare Candy cheat, as did "Habitat". File:Ani201QuMS.gif abwayax (t/c) File:Ani201ExMS.gif 03:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

True, but that is a more detailed explanation, where as the one Missingno. Master was putting was just simple. If people wanted more information, they could just scroll up/down the page. Yes, Ninetendo doesn't consider it a Pokémon, but the fact of the matter is that t's in the game, and it CAN be used in battle. That's at least a bit of a Pokémon, no? (Also, just make this page unprotected, as there won't be any more reverts, that's already been said) GlinnFile:Ani202MS.gif 03:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Which is why it has battle data. It needs no other data because it has no dex entry, never appeared outside of Red and Green/Blue, and was never intended to be FOUND. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 04:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the protection is going to last very long, though. MM agreed to stop edit warring, and as mentioned before it's locking the article from good-faith contributors. File:Ani201QuMS.gif abwayax (t/c) File:Ani201ExMS.gif 04:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I still think that it's pointless. I originally gave it a Project Pokédex-like infobox BECAUSE IT HAD SOME DATA. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 04:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. The page does not need to be protected. Seriously, can somebody UNprotect this thing? -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 16:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Um. If you would like to edit this page, ask the admins.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 16:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

My point is, though, it shouldn't have been protected in the first place. -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 12:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC) The article has been unprotected. If there is anymore nonsense, I WILL protect it again. Is that understood? -Sketchies 21:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC) Yeah, yeah. I STILL think this article should have the Biology and whatnot sections. I mean to say, come on, 'M's article has it! Why not MissingNo.? And speaking of which, why do we capitalize the second "n"? I always seen it spelled "Missingno.". -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 12:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Dude, NO GLITCHES should have the Biology, Habit, Game Data, Special Abilities, Behavior, Gender Differences, and whatnot! --Theryguy512 14:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't see why not. It makes the articles look better, more professional. --

Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 15:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

No, it does not! Glitches are NOT REAL POKÉMON!!! --Theryguy512 15:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Calm down there, guy. I wouldn't be suprised if half of you Bulbapedians died of high blood pressure related deseases.--Cjhard 08:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

...do you, like, get a kick out of reviving four-and-a-half-month-old conversations? Because, you know... this conversation is four-and-a-half months old. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 08:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't believe I have to do this AGAIN

Seriously. Is it that hard to reach a mature discussion? Revert wars solve nothing. Talk things out here. I don't want to have to protect this again. Have I made myself clear? -Sketchies 15:36, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Missigno. Master, Glitches ARE NOT REAL Pokémon! So that's why we don't make glitch pages look like real Pokémon pages, because they're not. --Theryguy512 15:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

This doesn't have to do with that, it has to do with displaying the sprites like SPRITES! I made a mistake in putting the sprites in the gallery box, it made them too big. And I think Glitch Pokémon should be considered real! They can battle, they have stats, they have sprites, they can learn attacks via TM (and HM in some cases), and they have cries! If those characteristics don't qualify them as Pokémon, I don't know what does. Did you ever actually read the quote in my sig? -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 15:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

....Sigh....Glitches are just placeholders......and they are combined of little tid-bits of real Pokémon, but they themselves are not real...--Theryguy512 15:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Ignoring the last comment, I'd also like to say, WHY was the messy Details section put back? I cleaned up the article by putting half the information in Trivia, and getting rid of everything else, which had been stated elsewhere in the article, and it was reverted shortly before the article got protected! What's up? -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 19:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Whats a 'Revert war'?File:Ani025MS.gifSonic Pikachu ^RTP|1#fan File:Ani155MS.gifFile:Ani001MS.gif 08:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That's when someone makes a change to an article, then someone changes it back, then the first person undoes THAT, so the article is how they had it, and so on and so forth. There's been quite a bit of that going on with this article. Some people disagree with my ideas on how to, for instance, display Missingno.'s different forms. -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 11:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with misingno. master! CrystalLucario 12:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

No, it wasn't a revert war that got it protected again, I asked Sketchies to protect it again. --Theryguy512 15:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

2 things. 1, I never said that the revert war DID get the page protected again. 2, WHY did the Details section get put back? What I did was good, and it got reverted. -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

MM, are you that obsessed with MissingNo.?^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 21:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Am I that obsessed with Missingno., you ask? Well, let's review the facts.

1:

	☆ This user's favorite Pokémon is MissingNo.. ☆

THAT is on my userpage.

2: I started Project GlitchDex.

3: This.

Well, then, yes, I'd have to say I AM that obsessed with Missingno.. -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 21:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

So, when's this article going to be unprotected, anyway?

I mean, come on. I make an edit I consider constructive, it gets reverted, I re-revert it, thinking that the revert was done in haste, without the reverter thinking about what he/she was doing, it gets re-re-reverted and the article gets protected? COME ON! And for what I sincerely hope to be the final time, WHY was the details section put back? I deleted everything that was mentioned elsewhere in the article, and the rest could be put in Trivia. WHY was it reverted? -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 00:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I support Missingno Master on this whole thing. Why can't glitch and regular pokemon be considered as one? Its like spliting black and white people up PokemonTrainer7738 21:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)PokemonTrainer7738

You are contributing to an old, finished discussion. A glitch IS NOT a Pokémon. End of discussion. Again. -Sketchies 16:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Missingno and Togetic

I remember reading in a book somewhere that the 'orignal' Missingno. (from Red/Blue, NOT YELLOW) could be traded to Pokemon Yellow, and that when traded to Pokemon Yellow, Missingno. (or was it 'M?) would gain the same Pokedex number that Togetic has in the G/S/C Pokedex. I don't know where this info should be put, however, so I've not added the term.

--M. Burusu 05:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

You CAN'T add the term. They won't unprotect the page, so only admins can edit it.

Besides, it's 3TrainerPoké, 'M's Yellow counterpart, that bears Togetic's Pokédex number. --Shiningpikablu252 01:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Delete?

why is this page going to be deleted? I can't see the reasons. =S please someone tell me! hfc2X 01:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not up for deletion, the redundant infobox you put on it is up for deletion, hence, the deletion tag. We already have a Glitch Pokémon infobox. Aside from that, I do like what you've done with the page, though. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 01:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I created that infobox for putting MissingNo.'s japanese name too as every Pokémon. And I also fixed this page to look like other Pokémon pages, 'cause I think MissingNo. is so well-known that needs to be treated like any other. hfc2X 01:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly, Missingno. DOES need to be considered a real Pokémon. Only problem is, I once tried doing what you did, it got reverted. Not the infobox thing, the whole make-the-page-look-like-the-page-of-a-real-Pokémon thing. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 01:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Well If they revert the page, they should give reasons. After all, MissingNo. is a regular Pokémon for the game's perception. hfc2X 01:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You have a point there. I mean, Missingno. has a sprite, a cry, stats, attacks.... Anything that meets those requirements ought to be considered a Pokémon, wouldn't you say? I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 10:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe a new infobox for Glitch Pokémon to solve your problems. I mean, over 20 glitches is hard to organize, no?It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links10:49 19 Jun 2008

Or maybe we could take the obvious way and ask someone to edit the existing infobox. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 10:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I thought MissingNo. was the only gltch that has a japanese name. If the other ones have, then let's add it. hfc2X 01:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I have no idea if any other Glitch Pokémon has a known japanese name. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 01:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I mean, Missingno. has a sprite, a cry, stats, attacks.... Missingno. has a name that indicates an error message and a cry that is the default one at its shortest length. Sprite, stats, and attacks are not relevant, because those aren't really a sprite or stats or attacks -- they're seemingly random data, not physically defined for Missingno. itself. Missingno. is not a full-fledged "Pokemon." A beta Pokemon, perhaps. Filler data, more likely. But not an actual Pokemon. IIMarckus 02:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Sprite stats and attacks are not relevent... Yes they are! Stop being desperate and admit Missingno Master + Hfc2x have the better point! PokemonTrainer7738 15:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm saying that Missingno.'s sprite and stats and attacks are not relevant because they're not really sprites, stats, or attacks. Is that hard to understand? IIMarckus 21:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

MissingNo. has stats, sprite and cry like every Pokémon, because there's no other way to explain why it ALWAYS has the same base stats, the same sprite, the same cry and the same attacks. Yeah, it's a beta-Pokémon, but still a Pokémon. I know that you don't want it to be, 'cause nintendo did never release it as oficial, but the game (and many people) still considers it as a normal Pokémon. hfc2X 04:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

there's no other way to explain why it ALWAYS has the same base stats, the same sprite, the same cry and the same attacks. Sure there is -- the data is always being pulled from the same location in the ROM, even though that's not its intended use. Missingno's cry is a real cry, its name is a real name, but its sprite is not a sprite, its stats are not stats, and its attacks are not attacks; they're just (incorrectly) being interpreted that way by the game engine. IIMarckus 22:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh snap, he's got you there.--Cjhard 08:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

It's the most famous Pokémon. People come here one day and expect to see an article on Missingno. And then they discover-Eh? No Missingno? BULBAPEDIA SUCKS! That's what they'll say. We are an ENCYCLOPEDIA, not a (democracy?) deletion posse. Seriously, new guys appear here and start causing trouble like HELL. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links09:26 22 Jun 2008

OK, from what you just said, I can only assume you saw the word delete and assummed that some newbie wanted this article deleted. Couldn't be further from the truth. If you had actually read this section, you'd realize that a user made a new Missingno. Infobox that could incorporate japanese names, and put it on this article, not knowing that I had deemed said infobox redundant and had put a deletion tag on the infobox. The deletion tag then showed up on this page. This section was started to clear the confusion. This page never was up for deletion, the infobox was. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 10:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

relations

if u look closely at the sprites of the missingno. u would find that it hs a resemblance to a letter. Ghost:lower part of the body looks like a 'Y'. Aerodactyl: overall skeleton looks like >--< which looks like 'X'.Kabutops : upper body (chest) looks like 'W'. i think this is worth mentioning in the trivia.--Nobody777 13:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Ummm. No. One persons ideas are not enough to make noteworthy. MidnightCeltic 13:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

but u agree. so if an admin sees my note above he\she might agree and post it at the trivia. but u agree,right?--Nobody777 13:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

No I don't agree. but yes, I'd happily disregard if an Admin posted it. MidnightCeltic 13:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

just look accurately at it and DEEPLY and try to remember the shapes and places.--Nobody777 13:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I look at it clearly, and DEEPLY as you say, and on the ghost... I see a Ghost. On the Aerodactyl... I see the skeleton of an Aerodactyl, and on the Kabutops... I see the skeleton of a Kabutops. But again, if an Admin agrees, I'll agree. MidnightCeltic 23:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

MissingNo. altering save file

I saw the article about how "harmless" MissingNo. is to your save file and edited it. I have encountered an altered save file MYSELF. And it had NOTHING to do with my Red cartridge freezing. After catching MissingNo. I encountered some issues with the Hall of Fame, which didn't bother me, as it's a minor issue and all. The worst of all issues came afterwards. When I loaded my save files and decided to challenge the elite four again - notably with my Mewtwo-Mew Team (the Mew was legitimely mine, as I won a Pokémon quiz), I realized, that only box number 19 had some Pokémon in it. All other boxes where empty. This didn't suit me at all, for my team was made of low-lvl Pokémon that were put in for training purpose only, and my "dream team" was gone, at least most of it.

I'd like you to NOT say the "save file alternation" to be only a rumour, for it really hurts my pride, especially after the loss of my legitimate Mew and the loss of my legendary bird-trio!

Pokémon Red and Blue are old games. Yours might just be conking out naturally. Don't you dare blame Missingno. for this. If you had captured a Tauros and found that your boxes started to delete themselves, would you have said that Tauros can delete your Pokémon? I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 11:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

STOP THE FIGHTING BY ALL THAT IS SANE!

we already know missingno. is a glitch! everyone sane will join me, delete the order of the glitch, and stop everyone from becomeing raveing idiots as bulbapedia falls from top to bottom. STOP THE FIGHTING AND THE MADNESS.Whatswithalltheextraspace 22:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

What.... did.... you.... just.... say....? You DARE oppose the Order of the Glitch? Well, let me tell you now, it will get you nowhere. You will never halt us in our efforts to promote glitch awareness, to put a stop to glitch bigotry and the segregation between Glitch Pokémon and "official" Pokémon! We will succeed! And when we do, Glitch Pokémon and "official" Pokémon will be considered equal by all! I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 22:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

ok.... now you just sound like an evil madman. if missingno. is "real" then how come it doesnt exsist in any other gen? jynx is considerd racist but wasnt removed. kadabra was sued but still exsists. porygon cauzed seizures and GAINED popularity. no Pokémon was ever removed completely. and missingno. is gone. hes a glitch. face it.Whatswithalltheextraspace 22:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

But, the fact still remains that Missingno. has stats, a cry, moves, and TM/HM compatibility, and it can be captured in a Poké Ball. All characteristics of Pokémon. Sure, it occured accidentially, but wasn't the creation of bubblegum also an accident? And look how that turned out. I'm sure that in due time, Game Freak will realize their mistake in removing Missingno. and the other Glitch Pokémon. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 22:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

true, very true and no it wasnt. i take back what i said. your only half-idiot. you can keep your page as long as you get off this one. i want this page unprotected tina.Whatswithalltheextraspace 23:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

OK, couple of things;

1: Bubblegum was created when someone was trying to create a new kind of rubber. Hence, accident.

2; Only half-idiot? Thanks... I think.

3; With all due respect, I doubt you have the authority to tell me which pages I can keep and which pages I can or can't access.

4; The MissingNo. article has been unprotected for some time now, and will hopefully remain so. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 00:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

what i meant was i will not try to get rid of it.

Whatswithalltheextraspace 15:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Boy, no ofense, but you have serious problems. I consider MissingNo. a Pokémon too, and I'm the person who redone this article to look like the other Pokémon. I also REALLY REALLY HATE cheats and cheaters, but I do not oppose that articles like that exist in bulbapedia. Guy this is a Pokémon Encyclopedia and should include EVERYTHING on Pokémon, not only what you want to include. hfc2X 01:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

As much as I don't agree with half of what the Order of the Glitch claims or says (like being a secret society despite advertising themselves so much), Missingno is a very important historical event in Pokémon. It may not be an official critter but it has affected the fandom way more than something like the move Splash or even a couple baby Pokemon we really don't care about. This is a Pokémon wiki, and glitch or not, Missingno is still part of this fandom and is the most prominant glitch out there.--Outrage DD 03:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

If we talk about its weight and height in the trivia, could we at least talk about what it actually IS? ht14 01:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Missingno actually HAS that data, but it is almost impossible to see because of the Pokédex entry. hfc2X 15:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Should 'Form' be spelled 'Forme"?

Just a thought, but shouldn't the forms be listed as "Normal Forme" etc.? If Deoxys was changed, this should be too. --Alex S. 02:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Deoxys is official. Missingno. was never meant to be seen by the public. It's also not legendary. TTEchidna 02:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

No, "forme" is an incorrect spelling caused by a mistaken Japanese scan. Anything that has ever been displayed with that dreadful misspelling will be reverted to the correct "form" spelling. For example, it's "Normal Form", "Attack Form", and the like for Deoxys, "Another Form" and "Origin Form" for Giratina, "Land Form" and "Sky Form" for Shaymin, and so on and so forth. Once Giratina's Origin Form is officially revealed--and it WILL be called "Origin Form"--this whole paranoia will evaporate, this whole "forme" bull**** will blow over, and no damage will be done overall.

Simply put, "form" is correct, always has been, and always will be regardless of Pokémon. It should not be changed. --Shiningpikablu252 02:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Not for Deoxys it's not. See? TTEchidna 02:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

A mistake that's easily correctable. --Shiningpikablu252 02:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

3rd slowest Pokemon

"and the third lowest Speed base stat, only losing to Shuckle and Munchlax whom each have a base Speed of 5 each." However $ has a speed stat of just 2 according to it's page.--Tails Clock 23:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Weight?

Trivia claims it to be heavier than Groudon (also twice the size of 'M) yet its size and weight is not referenced in the article.--Outrage DD 03:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC) Argh noticed the other topic on this, but seriously, how can one claim it to be heavier if they show no proof?

Missingno. in Green Version?

I read somewhere that encountering Missingno. or 'M or any other glitch pokemon in Japanese R/G will freeze the game. Is this true? - unsigned comment from Blueapple128 (talk • contribs)

Yep, it is true. hfc2X 01:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Level 100 Missingno.

I added that when a Missingno. over level 100 gains battle experience and levels up, it permanently becomes level 100. LordArceus 19:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

This is the case for all Pokémon over level 100, and is not limited to Missingno. Also, please use the + button at the top of the page when adding a new talk page section; it helps keep things more organized. IIMarckus 01:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Of course, but MissingNo. is the poster Pokémon for glitches. I think the most appropriate place to state that would be here, because it would take an annoyingly long time and be redundant to say it in the article of every Pokémon catchable at over Level 100. LordArceus 17:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

This is a lie... in my pokemon blue version... a LONG time ago... i caught a few missingno.s actually i filled a box for them then i did the rare candy cheat and raised it one lvl. it became lvl 1 and it was a picture of a pokemon(same as a ryhorn...i think...) then i raised it 100 lvls it became a little boy... 100 more it was a teenage girl i think... 100 more a teenage boy... then 100 more a woman... then 100 more... it was a man... then 100 more... now this was the wierd part... it was a grandpa... then it was a grandma 100 more... then 1 more it was a lvl 1 kangaskhan... oh and this was only for the icons and my icons did NOT move... like it was the little picture on the side that moves it changed every 100 rc and you could only tell the numbers by the numbers on the rare candy...

P

-DC Out-- unsigned comment from Deathcommand (talk • contribs)

Ridiculous, and look at how much space you wasted. LordArceus 14:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Sadly, that is not true. Any Pokémon over 100 can go up to Lv 255 and then lower to 1 using rare candies, but battling it reverts to 100. And of course you do realize that we're no noobs and can try it by ourselves anytime right? hfc2X 20:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Uh, was that directed at me? I'm sorry; I just can't tell. LordArceus 02:59, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

No, sorry, not for you =P hfc2X 06:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

>_< I had to ask seeing as you indented under me. I apologize for coming across as stupid (I'm not). LordArceus 16:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Main type

Well, is the main type Normal or Bird? The big box at the right says the main type is Normal, but in all the templates the type colours are reversed as well as they are listed as Bird/Normal in the leading paragraph before the TOC. I'm asking this because inconsistency bugs me. UltimateSephiroth ^{(about me · chat · edits)} 16:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Hfc2x, for fixing them. UltimateSephiroth ^{(about me · chat · edits)} 20:55, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Dietary Habits

Um, yeah. I was reading the article and took a glance at the dietary habits of MissingNo.. I'm sorry, but I'd like to see MissingNo. or any other glitch pokemon try to eat pokémon food... However, plese don't take this as an argument... Just thought that maybe that link to the Pokémon Food article should be taken out. Kiryu 00:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Honestly, the whole section should go. It’s not like Missingno. is a real Pokémon. IIMarckus 02:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Missingno. is a real Pokémon. It's a little something called a glitch Pokémon.--The Kkllnnator サンタクロース 02:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Missingno. is not a glitch Pokémon, although it has glitchy effects. And neither Missingno. nor glitch Pokémon can really be considered “real Pokémon.” (But please let’s not get into that argument again.) Certainly we can’t say anything about its diet, since it does not have one. IIMarckus 02:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Which is what it says right now. Something about nothing being known. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 02:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

It’s not that they’re not known, it’s that there aren’t any. IIMarckus 02:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Can you prove that? Maybe it eats data. (Is reminded of the Digimon Keramon) The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 02:38, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, who knows? Perhaps the writers will decide to make a joke and actually put MissingNo. in the anime. It's not that farfetch'd(poké-pun intended), because multiple fangames have MissingNo. as a pokemon. At least one even made an evolution for it! If that ever happens and the DO put out favorite little glitch box in the anime, then the dietary habits section will be useful. Kiryu 21:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Old Man

Someone told me that if you name yourself "OLD MAN" at the beginning of the game, the game won't need to change your name during the tutorial battle with the Weedle, and therefore you won't be able to find MissingNo. that way. Is this true? Kiryu 21:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Before this goes to far

Why should we not put a period after Missingno.'s name? The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 21:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

[2] Read near the bottom of the page. It says so right there. Fi-ray ►strike! 21:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Missingno. isn't an actual abreviation. Sure, it contains an abbreviation, but it itself isn't one. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 21:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Well so it happens to have a period. Abbreviation or not, it's not any exception to the rule. Fi-ray ►strike! 21:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

"Notice that when the period ending the abbreviation comes at the end of a sentence, it will also suffice to end the sentence." Missingno. is not an abreviation, and therefore is not covered by the rule The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 22:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Does it have a period in the game?--Clarky13 22:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)