Talk:Blastoise (Pokémon)

Recent addition.

I highly doubt that's true. The attack move is "Hydro Cannon" so I believe cannon is where the attack comes from. TheBlazikenMaster 23:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree as well. They don't design the sprites based off of what moves can be used. Otherwise "OMG LOOK AT HITMONLEE IT CAN LEARN KICKING MOVES BECAUSE IT'S KICKING IN THE SPRITE!" Its mouth is open, and Hydro Cannon just happens to be coming from that point. There's no special connection. TTEchidna 23:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I have never seen Blastoise using its mouth for Hydro Pump in the anime. But you're right I know you are, I was just unsure if it was good trivia or not so I asked. TheBlazikenMaster 23:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I know you didn't think of it before (me included), but it happened to me once and THEN I realized it. I think the name "Hydro Cannon" is correct, but I think it's to emphatize that is a move EXCLUSIVE to Blastoise, as blastoise is the only Water-type Pokémon with Cannons (remember that Blastoise was the only Pokémon able to learn it).

I've uploaded a screenshot of it that clearly shows what I've said (although for some reason it does not appear yet). The Image is here

I know it's weird that a move called "Cannon" is shot from its mouth instead, but do it for yourselves and trade to Hoenn-based games and it's the same thing, the attack comes out from its mouth! (I don't think it's a coincidence) hfc2X 00:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

That image doesn't prove anything, maybe it appears to you that it's doing it from its mouth, but it's just a sprite, and it looks that way. What I'd like to see is examples of Blastoise using its mouth in the anime. TheBlazikenMaster 00:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

The anime will prove you nothing, as there Hydro Cannon does not exist. I know it's just a sprite, but it makes a big coincidence if you look at the attack in ALL Gen III games. I'm not saying that the attack will always come from its mouth, but in GBA games it does.

In Colosseun and XD, Hydro Cannon DOES come out from the cannons, and there you have another thing not shown in the anime... In the anime, Blastoise ALWAYS has its cannons outside its shell, but in the games, the cannons only come out to use Hydro Pump or Hydro Cannon, so don't rely on the anime to prove anything (remember that games DID come out much before the anime, so they still make the rules). hfc2X 00:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually Gary did order Blastoise to use Hydro Cannon in one of the D/P episodes, but I get your point and still think it only looks that way. TheBlazikenMaster 01:09, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

That's what I wanted to point in the trivia... that Gen III sprites interestingly (and coincidentally) make it shoot from its mouth... maybe someone could point it better than me. (Sorry if I'm not clear, but english is not my native language xD.) hfc2X 01:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Honestly, if we're going to use sprites for any moves of any kind, it should be 3-D games, because they atleast TRY to make the moves look realistic (PBR's contact moves actually making contact was a big jump, imo). Sk8torchic 14:59, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I saw the bit about Exclusivly to Blastoise and got lost a bit. Hydro Cannon is exclusive to all Water Starters, not just Blastoise. The cannons in its shell have always been there for decoration purpose IMO. Besdies that the Cannon signifies the pressure for the attack. Look at it this way, Water Gun is the weakest only doing squirt like damage, Hydropump is like using a hose, Hydro Cannon is using a pressure washer. Also the bit about Blastoise always having its cannons out in the Anime is wrong, the cannons only appeared when it was ready to fire off one of its water attacks. I know the Elemental Hyperbeam attacks were issued out in the remake of Red and Blue games but if you brought over any of the other Water starters you can get Hydro Cannon with them. I agree fully with the They don't design Pokemon for certain moves bit though. Xanhawk 22:27 Dec. 21, 2008

Linking moves

Hello everyone, I am kinda new on this Bulbapedia thing, so I would appreciate it if someone can lend me a helping hand on how to link moves, I am having problems with the thing, sorry if I mess up anything.--Daniel's Raichu 12:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

This isn't the best place to ask, but to link to a move article write {{m|Move name}}. —darklordtrom 11:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, Thanks for the help. --Daniel's Raichu 09:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Red and Green

Why are we using the Blastoise picture from Red and Green? Why not FireRed and LeafGreen. (Holonboy 17:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC))

Gamera

For Blastoise's origin, isn't he based off Gamera (giant turtle in Japanese monster movies)too?- unsigned comment from Pialga92 (talk • contribs)

Other than being a turtle, Blastoise and Gamera share NO similarities whatsoever. - 050294 23:48, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Sea Turtle and Tortoise?!

Blastoise is clearly a freshwater turtle.Bennell 15:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Upon checking, this is clearly obvious. Maybe it was something that got overlooked during the process of translating. Frozen Fennec 04:16, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Shell

In the RBY sprites, the box around Blastoise's cannons looked more like raised "flaps" of the shell, but in the official art and in later sprites this was fixed. Could that be added in the trivia section, perhaps worded more eloquently? Sphericalice (talk) 20:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Sprite trivia are generally not notable unless there is a significant design difference (see vaporeon or (of course) Jynx). Also, I don't think that is a sprite error as, imo, it looks how it should just not perfect (begin Generation I and all).--ForceFire 02:13, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Blastoise Feet

I notice that Blastoise claws on its feet changing depending on the source. Some have 2 one the front, some have 3. I was wondering if this was something we should add ~Bobo (talk) 04:31, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Looking over the sprites and artwork available on this page, it appears to have three claws on the front of its feet. Its the different angles that make it look like two. Crystal Talian 04:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

In Pokemon Adventures, it looks like it has two claws on its feet-you can see the other side of the foot in the selection shown in the article-just barely. ~Bobo (talk) 05:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Other Sprites.

The HG and SS sprites are identical to D/P/PL's, they need to be removed. Same with the Blastoise FR/LG front sprite. That's already there. I'm not sure how to do this, so can someone handle it? ~Bobo (talk) 23:04, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

No and no; HGSS back sprites have differences in shading (the line on the arm at least), while the FRLG credits animation one in the other sprites section is clearly not simply replaceable by the static FRLG sprite. Soulweaver (U.S.) ^{(about me · chat · edits)} 23:41, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Sprites

Uh, guys? Something happened to the sprites and I don't know how to fix it. - unsigned comment from Lightningstrike43 (talk • contribs)

The ORAS Mega Shiny sprites just haven't been put on the Archives yet. It'll fix itself when someone puts up the images. --Abcboy (talk) 04:23, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

It's actually just that those two filenames haven't been made into redirects like the rest, for whatever reason. There weren't any changes in the models between the games. glik^glak 04:33, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Turtle AND hippopotamus?

Giving the design of it's head and face and short tail; Blastoise resembles a hippopotamus as well as a turtle.Robbie (talk) 21:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Shell "flaps" vs. "box"

Somewhere up above, from several years back, there was a mention of the sprites changing over time -- newer versions have a "box" in the shell that the cannons come out of, older versions have raised, rounded "flaps" of the shell that the cannons come out from under. This seems to have been dismissed as a "1st-gen sprites look weird" thing at the time, but I know I remember Blastoises without the "box" in more than just Red/Blue, so I looked around in the gallery. Turns out the "rounded shell flaps" version isn't just a 1st-gen thing, Blastoise's sprites are designed that way all the way through the third generation! The 4th-gen sprites are the first where it resembles a "box" all the way around the opening rather than just a raised part above (like one "scale" of the shell lifted up so the cannon could pop out from inside.)

The first-generation Sugimori art does not have the square "box" design either. The original Red/Green art definitely shows the shell's segments opening up so the cannons can come out (the edges are rounder and there is no "box" enclosing the cannon on all sides, just a hole that the cannon is coming out of with a shell segment raised over it), and all the other older-style Sugimori art in the gallery also has the rounded shell-flaps rather than the "box" of the newer designs. I am noticing that the anime seems to have always used the "box" design rather than the older games' "round shell-flaps" one, so it's possible that it's another case of the anime designs seeping into the games over time (like how the original Pikachu was much chubbier and less-humanoid than the anime's version, which over time became the one used in the games too.) I'd say this looks like an actual design change over time and not just a case the Red/Green/Blue sprites being iffy. FnrrfYgmSchnish (talk) 07:33, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

As was already noted when this was brought up before, sprite changes are generally not notable. Readers can see for themselves when they look at the sprite box; if we don't have anything to say about it except "it exists", we shouldn't be mentioning it at all. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:35, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Blastoise's Base

Is Blastoise supposed to be a turtle, or is it supposed to be a tortoise? If you know, please select edit and tell me.(gen-oner042806vencharblast (talk) 23:22, 14 April 2017 (UTC))

Of course turtle. Tortoise live on land, turtles in water. Blastoise lives in water. RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk) 00:17, 15 April 2017 (UTC)