Talk:Story event

This pages is really long, so can someone make all the tables collapsible? CrazyPikmin (My Edits) 12:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Making all the tables collapsible is only gonna help shrink the page length so much. I'd rather we make separate articles for each event - that'd solve the problem of the page being too long, and it'd make it far easier to link to a specific event on individual characters' pages and the like. Having to directly link to a specific section on this page is kind of a pain. Right now to link to a specific event you have to type "In the story event Dazzling Dizzying Battle Stage...", and it'd be much faster to type something like "In the story event Dazzling Dizzying Battle Stage...". I'd be willing to do the legwork of making all the different articles and fixing the links and stuff, but I'd like to hear others' opinions on the matter before I start doing such a drastic renovation. Storm Aurora (talk) 21:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

That's sounds like a better idea, I added a split tag. CrazyPikmin (My Edits) 07:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

That seems like a lot of pages. Might it make sense to split it by year instead? On that note, if we do split it by story event, it might make sense to merge the script pages into those pages. Landfish7 18:16, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

None of the pages would be really short if the scripts are included, probably all between 1.000 and 15.000 bits. I think splitting the pages and adding the scripts is the best option. CrazyPikmin (My Edits) 07:16, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Works for me. I can work on drafts for this later to get the ball rolling. Landfish7 07:22, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

I hadn't thought about putting the scripts on the pages, but that makes a lot of sense! I'm good with that concept. I was playing around with making infoboxes the other day, so I whipped up a quick draft of what an infobox for these event pages might look like on my userpage. I used a solo event as the example, but those usually don't have much to speak of in terms of script, so they might not need individual pages. The format's exactly the same as you would see on a story event, though. Storm Aurora (talk) 21:46, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Here's a draft example for Reach for the Top. Feel free to add that infobox btw! Landfish7 23:01, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

And here's a draft example of what the main article might look like. Landfish7 01:01, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Infobox added, I like the look of the drafts overall. Would it be possible to make some kind of navigation aid at the bottom of each individual event page so users can easily jump between different events? Or is that above our pay grade? Also, I'm thinking of using event banners (like this) as the image for events that don't have special promo art, though they're not in the Archives yet. I'll see if I can start getting those uploaded. Storm Aurora (talk) 05:14, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

I believe a navbox can be made in the userspace with the mainspace template placed at the top of the page and then moved to the mainspace once approved by staff. Landfish7 05:43, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Made a rough draft of the navigation template. Storm Aurora (talk) 22:02, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Looks great! Landfish7 22:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Hmm, just realized something. The Halloween event from 2021 was called "Midnight Spookfest" on its initial run, but for the rerun the name was changed to "Midnight Battle Ball", with in-game text for the event changing to reflect those changes. It's easy enough to underline the text that changed in the script, but should the title of its page be the original name of the event or the new one? Storm Aurora (talk) 06:04, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

(resetting indent)I'd say let's stick with the original name. Landfish7 09:57, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Works for me. I made a draft of the page for Midnight Spookfest to figure out how an event with multiple runs would be organized, and wound up adding a couple more sections too. Which got me wondering, is the plan to make pages for all the events in the userspace before moving any of them to the mainspace? Or do we just need to finalize the general format for the pages in the userspace and then start creating pages for the events in the mainspace directly? Storm Aurora (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

We'll need staff approval before moving them to the mainspace. I'll ask staff if they have a preference. Landfish7 23:27, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Staff has given the go ahead to create the pages in the mainspace. We can also move the navbox into the mainspace, it just needs the colors adjusted to match the other Masters EX pages. Landfish7 18:45, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

I've moved the template to the mainspace and split out the two articles we've completed so far. Feel free to help out making the rest of the articles and fixing all the links and such! Appreciate all your help! Landfish7 05:09, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome, I'm having fun with this and learning a lot! Before we make the rest of the articles, I think it'd be helpful to templatize that infobox I made so it stays consistent between pages (and we don't have to type as much stuff on each page, lol). I made a page for it, but I've never made a customizable template before so I hope I did it right... Storm Aurora (talk) 21:47, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Seems like a good idea! I've passed it along to staff. Landfish7 22:21, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Staff wanted to know "What does the 'rewards' line mean? And how would you differentiate sync pairs with bonus for rewards vs those that give a bonus for strength?" Landfish7 10:14, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

The "rewards" line is meant to indicate how players use the items earned in the event to get rewards: exchanging them in the shop (exchange shop), using them to pull from a prize box (prize box), or using them to travel an event map (event map). I've changed the label to "Event item usage" to make it clearer, but if that still might be confusing, I can take the line out.

I had forgotten to consider reward bonuses vs. strength bonuses; I've split the "Theme skills with bonus" line into "Theme skills with reward bonus" and "Theme skills with strength bonus". I think that's all that's needed, because as far as I can recall, strength bonuses have never been given to individual sync pairs. They're given to all sync pairs with a certain theme skill. Plus, the amount of the strength bonus can vary between areas in the same event, so there's not much use in listing what the strength bonuses are in the infobox. Storm Aurora (talk) 18:00, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

From staff: "Not too sure how useful the event item usage line will still be. The item exchange (shop, prize box, event map) information will still be there towards the bottom of the page so we aren't losing this information. Also, having the info in the infobox is only useful if it's obvious to the reader straight away which I don't think it is even with the name change. Also since I haven't really paid attention to it - in regards to the pool of sync pairs with strength bonuses, is this always restricted to specific theme skills (e.g. only grass types), or can it be theme skills and random sync pairs (e.g. featured sync pair Blue & Pidgeot AND grass types)" Landfish7 09:43, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

That's a fair point regarding the event item usage line, I've removed it. Regarding the strength bonuses, as far as I can recall (and after doing a quick check of some of the event pages), the only instances of sync pairs receiving strength bonuses have been across entire theme skills. They're typically only seen in events like villain events and Extreme Battle events where there are no featured sync pairs, and in the rare cases where there are both featured sync pairs and strength bonuses (i.e. With Beauty and Grace), all the featured sync pairs have one of the theme skills that's receiving a strength bonus. Storm Aurora (talk) 16:44, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Template's been mainspaced! Landfish7 23:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Awesome! I went ahead and added it to the two pages we've already created, and in the process discovered I overlooked a small detail: the "type" parameter used to determine the color of the banner had the same name as the "type" parameter used for the type of event. It's fixed now, though, so we can get cracking on making the rest of the articles! Storm Aurora (talk) 01:25, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Sounds great! Landfish7 01:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

I've made a couple of tweaks to the template while working on splitting the articles. The first minor tweak was allowing for the reward bonus amounts to be customized, which was necessary for only two early events that gave 2×/1.5×/1.2× bonuses instead of the standard 1.6×/1.4×/1.2×. The second one I just added, and it allows for the text color to be customized - I figured that'd be helpful for infoboxes using a type color where black is a little hard to read. The parameter titlecolor changes the color of the event name, and the parameter textcolor changes the color of the labels for each row. Right now I've only utilized it on the infobox for Shining Heart of Dragons, if you'd like to take a look at that and tell me your thoughts. Storm Aurora (talk) 02:55, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Love it! Landfish7 08:00, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Format

Maverick Nate suggested on Discord the possibility of replacing the list of events with a simple table or chart or something that has the names, dates, and sync pairs. What do y'all think? And if we go that route, would any other basic info be necessary to include? (This would happen after we're done with the split, obviously) Landfish7 10:06, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, that'd make a lot of sense! As I'm splitting the articles, I keep asking myself the question of "how much of this information really needs to be kept in the main article, it's all redundant" and this solution sounds like a nice, easy way to standardize it. I think names, dates and featured sync pairs is all we really need to include, since those are the three things that every story event has. The only other thing that I could think of adding is the event banners for each event (i.e. Masters Rosa's Party.png) as a small visual for each event that doesn't take up much space. (Also, fyi, the Discord link isn't working for me) Storm Aurora (talk) 22:16, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Feel free to use this if you'd like to draft up what this could look like. (Also, not sure why the link isn't working, unless maybe you're not a member of the server? Idk) Landfish7 22:39, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Made up a draft table on the page, the formatting will definitely need some work but all the basic info's there. (Also, yeah, the link wasn't working because I hadn't joined the Bulbagarden Discord server yet, lol) Storm Aurora (talk) 05:18, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

This is a great start! I would suggest that the images be placed at the rightmost end though, as on mobile it makes it so you have to scroll to the right to see the info. It might also be good to limit the size of the images to 250px and incorporate the color scheme that we use for the other Masters tables to make it look extra nice. Thanks for your work on this! Landfish7 10:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Move

This should be moved to Story event, as suggested by an EB member and supported by an admin on Discord. I also don't think it needs to be disambiguated with (Masters), as List of Sync Pair-Up events, Villain Event, Costume Event, Daily Battle, Extreme Battle Event, Neo Champions, and Trainer Files are not. Story event (the redirect) will need to be deleted in order to allow for the move. Landfish7 13:01, 2 May 2023 (UTC)