Talk:Forces of nature

"Raijin"

Still not thinking it's the best name for them. As continued from here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon#.22Raijin.22_Trio Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 03:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree. TTEchidna 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

As do I. Should it be moved? --Andy^P_K^M_N 22:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Kami trio makes more sense... Well, Landlos doesn't make any sense except as a trio master that should had been external and its place taken by a Water/Flying Suijin, but oh well... Eriorguez 21:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Kami makes a lot more sense than Raijin since, as stated, only one is a thunder god.Megaplex 00:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

So seeing as everyone who commented here seems to agree, can it be moved? --Andy^P_K^M_N 11:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

"Trio or Duo"

is they to be considered a trio because as what i think they were just duo and landlos was the duo master much like how regigigas was not part of the regi quadruped. Badwolf1234 11:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Rayquaza is the leader of the Weather trio. Sometimes trios have their masters within the group. --ケンジのガール 11:49, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Trivia: Djinn

They're Djinn inspired also, as evidenced by the clouds, and crossed arms. FYI Djinn is the proper term for "Genie".Tesseract 08:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

PokeDex

The Unova PokéDex, last I checked, is completed by marking all Pokemon as Seen like the Sinnoh Dex is. How you first encounter Tornadus/Thundurus depending on the version, how do you get the other Kami and Landorus marked as Seen? Shiramu Kuromu 14:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

It's noted by Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, that the three legendary dragons share their primary types with the 4th (Crasher Wake/Water), 5th (Fantina/Ghost) and 6th (Byron/Steel) gym leader of their region. The funny thing is, that the three legendary Pokémon, Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus, share the primary type with the 4th (Elesa/Electric), 5th (Clay/Ground) and 6th (Skyla/Flying) gym leaderof their region as well, if it's noted by the cration trio, we should add it here too. (I am talking about primary types, I do know that Tornadus is pure-flying, since it can't be a flying/flying type.) (Celebi 21 16:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC))

Kami Trio and Whether Trio.

Shouldn't we be adding that the Kami Trio has a lot in common with the Whether Trio? Such as, Tornadus and Thundurus being able to create whether changes overworld, and Landurus being their master that can stop the massive destruction they are able to create much like Rayquaza can stop Groudon and Kyogre? - unsigned comment from MrAkmalDanish (talk • contribs)

Suggestion

Once the new forms are officially revealed, the term "Kami" would no longer apply to this trio. I know this is fanterm, but however they turn out to be called, clouds are the main feature shared by all six forms. So I suggest this page to be named "Cloud trio". Thank you. |) u |( e ® 14:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, Tornadus' new forme seems to have only a small cloud on its tail, Landorus has small anklets of clouds, and Thundurus seems to feature clouds most, so I doubt they could go by "Cloud Trio". It just seems to me that they're still the Kami Trio, as they still have their main appearance (somewhat). I guess they'll just keep it at Kami Trio unless it's official revealed that they have different types or something. プリングルズ/品客薯片/ప్రింగిల్స్ 04:55, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Many kami in Shinto mythology are able to shape-shift their appearances into a wide variety of forms. While Rajin and Fujin are not known for shape-shifting, Inari definitely is, but that doesn't mean that Raijin and Fujin would be out of the question as they're still kami all the same. I personally think that "kami trio" can still work even with the introduction of the new forms, especially considering the shape-shifting tendencies of many kami. Rai Marshall 05:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree with the Duke R. How about 'Prankster Trio'? In fact, why wasn't this used in first place? It is pretty much their main attribute, more than the fact that their appearances are based on Kami. Furthermore, there is quite some speculation that the new formes are based on Aztec mythology, in which case the term "Kami" is indeed a very partial description. -Ash_Pokemaster 08:50, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

'us' end

All the names of the pokemon end in 'us'. That comes from Latin. All male objects or persons do also end in 'us'. Also, that they are based on gods, there are also (other) gods in Latin.- unsigned comment from Stomata (talk • contribs)

Formes

i HAVE SEEN according to translations Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus original forms are Incarnation Forme. Their new forms are Sacred Beast Formes. - unsigned comment from Poke1 (talk • contribs)

We. Know. Ataro 01:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Other sites may use the fan translations, but we'd prefer to use the Japanese names until English names are released. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 01:40, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Just gonna throw out that the official website posted official art of their alternate formes and let you guys decide what to do about that. --HeroicJay 07:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

official artwork

new official artwork can this be used i got it from the Japanese official website.

- unsigned comment from Poke1 (talk • contribs)

We already have that artwork. I think we're still waiting to add it to this page, though. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 00:25, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Anime

Shouldn't there be an anime section here??RBK (talk) 22:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Creation of Kami Trio (anime)

Hello, I would like to propose an idea. Since it's pretty clear that the Kami Trio that appeared in Milos Island and in Abyssal Ruins are the same Landorus, Thundurus and Tornadus, I would like to propose that we should create a page called Kami Trio (anime) like we did with the Lake Guardians. So, how about it? --Omojuzeforever (talk) 19:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Move to Forces of Nature

At least, that's what they were called in the anime. As far as I know, Kami trio is a fanon term. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 21:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't know... Maybe "Forces of Nature Trio" then? In what context were they referred to as the "Forces of Nature"? Also, which episode of the anime? Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 10:21, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

It was in Meloetta and the Undersea Temple! and/or Unova's Survival Crisis!. It was stated that with Meloetta's song, along with the Reveal Glass, it would make one able to control the "Forces of Nature", or it could have been in lowercase, "forces of nature". Pokémon TV doesn't contain subtitles, so I don't know the capitalization. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 18:59, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not completely sure, but the Kami trio isn't an official term for the trio is it? Forces of Nature is, so I believe moving them would be best. ----samm :) (talk) 16:52, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Forces of Nature isn't the official term either, or do you have proof it's meant to be in uppercase in the anime? For me it's a simple use of expression, not the name of the trio. --Rafaelluik (talk) 19:12, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't know the answer to the anime question, but Forces of Nature is used to refer to the trio in at least one piece of TCG merchandise. --Frost (a.k.a. Razzia) (talk) 13:57, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Because more than one of the media have referred to them as "Forces of Nature", they are being moved. ^Maverick_Nate 15:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Recent leaks

With the recent leaks that have circled the net, and one of them being the fourth member of this group, would it be possible to protect this page?

I am requesting the protection because there is a new Pokémon leaked that will increase the number in this group from three to four (for the record, I only know because I accidentally saw the leaks)

Thanks.

Kangaflora (talk) 20:16, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Capitalization

Currently, we treat this page as a proper noun (Forces of Nature). However, I think potentially it should be sentence case instead.

• In Pokémon.com's closed captions for BW097, it is lowercase ("forces of nature") all three times it is used.
• In Pokémon Legends: Arceus, the description of the request "Incarnate Forces of Hisui" says "Legend has it that Hisui is home to a group of Pokémon said to be forces of nature incarnate." (lowercase)
• On the back of the 2018 TCG set Pokémon TCG: Forces of Nature GX Premium Collection, it says "The season of storms grows, and winds gather strength as the forces of nature combine in this massive collection."
  • In Pokémon.com's description for the 2018 TCG set Pokémon TCG: Forces of Nature GX Premium Collection, the group are referred to as the "forces of nature" (lowercase) in the same text that appears on the back of the box; but then also referred to as the "Forces of Nature" (title case) at the end of the paragraph (in text that does not appear on the box).
• I was not able to find any usage of "Forces of Nature" in promotional material for the 2012 TCG set Pokémon TCG: Forces of Nature Collection, outside of the name of the product.

Given that the games, anime, and TCG all seem to be in agreement on the capitalization, I think it makes the most sense to use lowercase. Since the Pokémon.com article on the TCG product is internally inconsistent, I think it's fine to disregard the one time it uses title case. --SnorlaxMonster 11:42, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Makes sense to me. Landfish7 06:01, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

pokemon

i think that they should move landorus, tornadus, thunderus, and Enamorus to the forces of nature section. i think so because they are literally the 4 forces of nature and should be classified as such. - unsigned comment from Poke'mon aaden (talk • contribs)

Can you clarify what exactly you want to see changed about the page? --SnorlaxMonster 14:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)