Talk:Type
Non Pokemon Opponents
Hello, I have a question. Under specific type there is section where it stated non Pokemon opponents (example those Black and White Opponents) and they have designated types from games they debuted ( example F-00 is Normal/Steel, Monika is normal etc) When it comes to other non Pokemon creatures like (example Bittercold, Void Shadows, Dark Matter, Dark Rust etc etc) I notice they don't have types section ( like example you click ice type and under non Pokemon opponents you see Bittercold as Ice type because it's ice opponent). So my question is, so those non Pokemon opponents as Bittercold, Void shadows, Dark Rust, many non Pokemon from other games, manga or anime etc - they don't have types like Pokestar Studios opponents? Or do you guys only count in type for those non Pokemon opponents(creatures) from main games (aka games made by Game Freak only? Thanks in advance and sorry for confusing question! Aruman (talk) 13:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- The Bittercold, Void Shadows, and Dark Matter don't have types afaik, so they can't be included on type pages. According to its page, though, Dark Rust is a Psychic type. So, I think it's reasonable to include it in the non-Pokémon opponents section on the Psychic (type) page. Storm Aurora (talk) 06:48, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for answer. Just one additional question to that. Is Dark Rust only confirmed non Pokemon opponent to have type in entire Pokemon verse? (apart those which are mentioned to not have type + those Pokestar Studios opponents that obviously have type)? And if there are will Dark Rust and others(if others have type) be added in non-Pokemon opponent section? Thanks! Aruman (talk) 10:48, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- I mean, there's stuff like the Starmobiles, which are already included on their respective type pages. Non-Pokémon that are exclusive to media outside of the games generally don't have specified types. I think Dark Rust is the only one that has a confirmed type and isn't included on a type page currently (but anyone is welcome to correct me if I've missed any). As for whether Dark Rust can be added to the Psychic (type) page, I don't have a problem with it, but I'm not the only person whose opinion matters on this website. I'll start a talk page conversation over there to see what other people think about it. ^.^ Storm Aurora (talk) 03:54, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- I understand, I saw your talk page but sadly no answer ( I mean it's not that important XD) but I think they only count GameFreak official creations in that section. Plus I saw this under Dark Rust discussion: Talk:Dark Rust comment by MechaMew user. Aruman (talk) 20:12, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- I mean, there's stuff like the Starmobiles, which are already included on their respective type pages. Non-Pokémon that are exclusive to media outside of the games generally don't have specified types. I think Dark Rust is the only one that has a confirmed type and isn't included on a type page currently (but anyone is welcome to correct me if I've missed any). As for whether Dark Rust can be added to the Psychic (type) page, I don't have a problem with it, but I'm not the only person whose opinion matters on this website. I'll start a talk page conversation over there to see what other people think about it. ^.^ Storm Aurora (talk) 03:54, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for answer. Just one additional question to that. Is Dark Rust only confirmed non Pokemon opponent to have type in entire Pokemon verse? (apart those which are mentioned to not have type + those Pokestar Studios opponents that obviously have type)? And if there are will Dark Rust and others(if others have type) be added in non-Pokemon opponent section? Thanks! Aruman (talk) 10:48, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Should we keep the statistical averages for each type?
Each type page has a section for "statistical averages", which are supposed to give the average base stats for all Pokémon of that type. However, after digging into it, I'm not sure how accurate these sections even are. According to the hidden notes under the tables, they count all "distinct forms" separately, but it's unclear what counts as a distinct form - I tried counting them up on a few different pages and my total never matched the total listed on these pages. Plus, some pages mention that they count Pokémon that got their stats changed in Z-A separately, but other pages don't - for example, Meditite, Medicham, and Mega Medicham appear to have been counted twice on Fighting (type) but not Psychic (type). But then, even if we did hammer out clear criteria for which Pokémon/forms are included in the calculations...the calculations still have to be done manually, and re-done every time new Pokémon/forms are added. It's a whole lot of effort to keep these sections updated, and for what purpose? Does anyone actually use these sections? It'd be much easier to just remove them, and I don't think any information of value would be lost. Storm Aurora (talk) 00:33, 4 February 2026 (UTC)
- Remove them and add stats to Pokemon list on type pages (and btw merge them into one table). Rocket Grunt 16:52, 4 February 2026 (UTC)