Talk:Weaponry in the Pokémon world
Is there really much weaponry?
Are you sure it has appeared many times? I can't really remember anything except for the Safari Zone Warden's gun. --Pokeresp 11:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Team Rocket has used weapons alot if nets and some of their machines count and missiles. Missiles have been used quite a bit like in the cinnabar gym.--Davidaipom 11:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if you include this, then it's OK. But machines usually count as Team Rocket's Mechas. --Pokeresp 11:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- J uses weapons as well, the gold turning gun. TheAlmightyChris 12:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Still, they're not that common... --ShadowLugiaEx 00:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Team Rocket has used weapons alot if nets and some of their machines count and missiles. Missiles have been used quite a bit like in the cinnabar gym.--Davidaipom 11:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Is this article really needed?
Well, weaponry is NOT much common in Pokémon. And the article has only one example. I think this isn't very important... ShadowLugiaEx 00:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- I cited a few more examples. Weedle Mchairybug 03:07, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Giovanni's Helicopter
Correct me if I am wrong but Giovanni's helo in Mewtwo Returns had a chin mounted energy cannon and I think in another instance it sported what appeared to be an autocannon.
User:Draconium
Some Citations
'Team Rocket: Double Trouble' Music Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lw5ngzp-SE
- What's Not Listed Here: Use of Quadruple Rocket Launchers and Aerial Bombardment of a Festival from two separate Episodes.
EP055: Pokémon Paparazzi
- What's Not Listed Here: Ash mistakes the glare from Todd's Camera for a Sniper Rifle.
--Arima 02:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
On naming the weapons
On occasion a weapon based on a particular real-life can be recognized. I made an edit speciiying that Officer Jenny used an M1 Garand in an episode. There was already an edit specifying a weapon Meowth held (I just corrected whhat type of weapon it was). Is this okay with everyone? - unsigned comment from Bulbajer (talk • contribs)
Actually, Officer Jenny used an M1 carbine, not a M1 Garand. The M1 Garand was clip fed, and Jenny's rifle has a magazine on the bottom.--KonguChaos (talk) 02:00, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
...Weapons in the games and manga?
The article title is 'Weaponry in the Pokémon world', but it merely details weapons seen in the anime. Weapons in both the games (such as the whips) and manga have also been seen a few times, I think they deserve a mention, especially since this article's title does not specifically mention 'anime' in it, but world. Mudkipchan 02:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- The article is clearly incomplete, then. Feel free to add information from the games, manga (and TCG, if relevant). —darklordtrom 02:13, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Minor Changes
I made some minor changes including fixing a grammar mistake and adding a missing part the community overlooked. I'm happy to help!Buddy999 06:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Gallery Expansion
If more pictures are provided, we should consider condensing all of them into a Gallery at the bottom of the page so that they don't clutter-up and displace the article's writing. --Arima 08:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Move to "Weaponry in the anime"
I don't think this page should be moved. While it currently only has information on the anime, it is just incomplete and should include information on weaponry in the games, manga, TCG, and books. --SnorlaxMonster 09:58, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. Someone should add those sections. I'll remove the tag and add to the incomplete tag. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 10:38, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Pokémon RGBY: Whips?
So, for expanding the "In the games" section, can we count the whips used by Cooltrainers and the like? They may just be a training tool, a la lion taming, but apparently in beta there was ideas for having the trainers fight alongside the Pokémon (see Concept Art - A Battle Between Trainers). Plus, well, even if they're being used as a tool, they can still technically be classed as weapons, correct? --Pie ~♪♫ 00:27, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- Well given the concept art and the blurb from Sugimori on that page, I'd say that they probably can be classified as some form of weapon. And lest we forget (as the page you linked points out) that another class that used them was Rocket Grunts in Gen I... It seems fitting. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 00:52, 4/24/2014 (UTC)
Pokémon I debated adding to the chart, but didn't
Just in case anyone wants to make a case for them:
- Scyther. This one was a really tough call, particularly since the Japanese name doesn't reference scythes which throws in the question of whether this was an intentional design choice or not. But what I'm really more torn up about is that... well, scythes are actually garden tools, and it's only thanks to them getting repurposed in pop culture as weapons that we think of them as such. (You can make a scythe INTO a weapon, but it requires turning the blade 90 degrees, something which you don't really see in pop culture. See war scythe.) It's a big complicated mess with the symbology of the Grim Reaper at the heart, and from what I've heard it's all for cool factor because a regular scythe is pretty awful as a weapon. I've ruled them as "not weapons" for now, but I'd love to hear other opinions on this one.
- Timburr, Gurdurr and Conkeldurr. While the "heavy bar" stuff they carry is certainly used as weapons, I ultimately decided that these can't really be classified as weapons themselves. It's more like an improvised weapon, you know? Like if there was a Pokémon who walked around smacking other Pokémon with folding chairs. If the Pokédex compared these to another weapon, like a quarterstaff, that would be a different story.
- Delphox. Similar story. It uses its "magic wand" only for combat, but honestly, it's hard to argue it as a weapon considering it's a fictional device and one with varying usage in said fiction. It's more like a tool, kind of like Alakazam's spoons or Hypno's pendant.
On a side note, I think it'd be interesting to have a simple article listing all Pokémon who carry tools, weapons and other objects separate from themselves (not counting held items). Maybe breaking them into sections by usage? --Pie ~♪♫ 13:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Team Flare's weapons
So someone may want to amend parts of this page. Team Flare has been using weapons to disable some of Zygarde's powers in A Meeting at Terminus Cave! and XY106. --TheMaskedMeowth (talk) 18:29, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Benga
Does Benga's machete count as a weapon? He probably isn't using it to attack anyone, but it could be considered a weapon.--Rocket Grunt 15:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- It would seem he uses it to cut the branches that he always carries. Landfish7 00:24, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
shaky basis for some inclusions
i'm not convinced that cramorant is supposed to resemble a cannon (rather than just spitting something out) or that fletchling is based on an arrow (it's... a bird. it has feathers). lilycove 18:53, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree that Cramorant shouldn't be included. However, the Fletchling line's names across several languages reference arrows, and their designs appear to reference arrow fletchings[1]. Landfish7 19:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)