Talk:Misty's Gyarados

Do we know for sure that Gyarados appeared as a Magikarp in The Misty Mermaid? More to the point, is it the same Magikarp? -PAK Man

I'm not entirely clear, but should we also include her Gyarados in Special? Or would that be more for a page on Red?--Biccy 19:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Why do we refer to Misty's Gyarados as a Gym Pokemon? I think we should refer to it as hers in general. For Gyarados to be at the gym it had to have been captured or obtained at one point, by Misty or one of her sisters. If was a gym Pokemon then wouldn't that mean it belongs to the Pokemon league right, because they are the supervisors of all official gyms. If I'm correct I thought it was the gym leaders responsibility to capture and raise strong Pokemon, and not the Pokemon League. Thats why I think Gyarados and some of the other Pokemon at the gym like Shellder should be referred to as strictly Misty's Pokemon -Voit

Why would the league hand out Pokémon? It's a Gym Pokémon because Misty didn't use it before being the Gym Leader. TTEchidna 05:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

She had it with her in her appearances, though (Namely, the Mirage Kingdom Arc and the 10th anniversary special.), I don't think Misty would have taken it with her if it strictly belonged to the Gym, so I think that it's her pokemon, and it doesn't actually belong to the Gym (Besides, why would it run amok in the Gym in Cerulean Blues? I mean, the Gyarados was out of it's pokeball for quite some time.)

Again I would like to ask...how do we know that it was Magikarp? Nothing was ever mentioned and I think it is just someone making a random assumption. --HoennMaster 04:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

In Chronicles 6, Misty tried recreating an underwater dance she had done with the Pokémon as a Magikarp in an attempt to calm Gyarados. There was dialogue explicitly stating the attempt (which failed to calm Gyarados). This should be sufficient evidence that it had evolved from a Magikarp. --Shiningpikablu252 05:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

In Pokémon Special

I have a suggestion: Why don't we pick what's written there, add it to Gyara and put a redirect to that article? I think it makes more sense then having half the information here and half there. Discuss. Mr. Charlie 09:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Gyarados

why is this called misty's Gyarados as it was raised by her sisters shouldn't it be put under Gyarados (cerulean gym) like dewgong,and shouldn't it at least be put on either the sensational sister pokemon list or on the girls seperate pages as previously owned.--Solidadrox 07:51, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

the reason why it's called Misty's Gyrados is because she took over all Gym leader duties while her sisters went away, for a tour or something like that. Then she was officially recognized as the Pokemon Gym Leader of Cerulean City by Nurse Joy. So, all Cerulean Pokemon effectively became Misty's (unless, though unlikely, they show the sisters returning and do all the blah blah blah technicality stuff) In A Manica 04:31, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

In a couple of the Pokémon Chronicles episodes Misty is still the Gym Leader after her sisters have returned, since she seems to be the only one that actually cares about the gym. HS11 and HS16 for example. Werdnae (talk) 22:24, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah. It's hard for me to find the Chronicles episodes online, but that settles it then. All Cerulean Gym pokemon are Misty's, whether she raised them or not. In A Manica 23:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Is this true

Is Misty's Gyarados is actually a male or did someone use gender differences on a pre-Gen IV Pokémon? PattyMan 05:28, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Obtained?

Misty is said to obtain Gyarados in Cerulean Blues. But we can clearly see that it was already captured when Misty returns it to its Poké Ball. Although she did borrow it from the Gym (it's a Gym Pokémon, both Misty and her sisters have custody over it), and use it in A Togepi Mirage, she didn't neccesarily obtain or capture it. And it's a Gym Pokémon, as I mentioned, so shouldn't this be at Gyarados (Cerulean Gym), also because her sisters might have caught it as a Magikarp? (We don't even know if it's the same Magikarp from (The Misty Mermaid.) Satoshi101 04:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Misty Gyarados, gym or her's pokemon?

Hello, im bringing this up because way article about Gyarados is written brings confusion among fans making it seem like things are based on assumptions rather than actual proof itself. Its listed on main page as Misty pokemon, but in article about Gyarados way its worded make it seem like its gym pokemon.

Do we have proof how it still belongs to gym?

Because canon makes this questionable making it seem like Gyarados is now officially in Misty possession.

Gyarados may have been gym pokemon before(even though in canon such thing has never been stated), but that doesn't mean it still belongs to gym with canon treating it more as Misty's than gym pokemon. There are plenty other gym pokemon like Dewgong, Shelder, Goldeen etc but we don't see Misty taking them with her outside the gym,let alone being showed that she ever used them in chronicles. Status of gym leader doesn't change anything because it was showed how other pokemon like Seal or Daisy Luverin (Luvdisc)are in her sister possession regardless of resigning in Cerulean gym.

Only Gyarados is taken with her whenever she leaves gym being treated in similar manner like Corsola, Staryu and other pokemon which belong to her.It was also showed how she is the only one training it, learning flamethrower in process(evidence. "Togepi Mirage" when she made appearance). Likewise its been already brought up in article how Gyarados seem to establish special bond with Misty , bond we never saw existing between him and Daisy, Violet or Lily. Before Misty returned to gym earning its respect it was also showed how he didn't listened to anyone being out of control, until Misty intervened choosing to be her partner and nothing afterwards indicate how anyone else beside Misty use him.

So can someone please explain why is said how Gyarados still belongs to gym when everything points out how ever since "Cerulean Blues" it started to belong to Misty?

For all aforementioned reasons wouldn't it be more authentic to say how Gyarados is pokemon Misty befriended, since its treated like her pokemon in anime?--Pokemon fan 132 (talk) 13:38, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Gender?

Can it be added that Misty's Gyarados (according to the game standards) is male? I know that the differences are subtle, but still, I thought I'd ask. WATERWarrior67 20:24, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

No, Misty's Gyarados was introduced before gender differences were introduced and it hasn't been seen again since Hoenn. --Pokemaster97 20:34, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Gender

Shouldn’t Gyarados be considered Male since it appeared in Pokémon the Series: Sun and Moon and another Gyarados, Karpy, made an appearance and was confirmed to be Male due to his whiskers? It looks like Misty’s Gyarados has blue whiskers. Shouldn’t it be considered to be universally Male throughout the anime at this point, even though it’s confirmed Male only in the games?
Gallade User 15:53, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

No. I don't know why that article said Magikarp was male, a female Magikarp is yet to make an appearance, so we can't use its gender difference. Same goes for Gyarados. Also, if a female Magikarp does eventually appear, it does not mean it confirms Gyarados's gender difference. The anime still needs to acknowledge Gyarados's gender difference.--ForceFire 16:45, 5 October 2021 (UTC)