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Gender?

Well, since the link won't work...one of the new scans has Lucario as being a male Pokemon. -Sketchies 17:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Lucario? Rukario?

I see most places refering to this Pokémon as "Rukario", but we're calling it Lucario. Anyone explain the name differences?

Hepburn Romaji has Rukario. The trademark filings and logical thinking (what's Rukario backwards? Orikaru - Oracle) have Lucario. - 刘 (劉) 振霖 10:49, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hey now that we got the full imaqge up at BMG of Rukario..why don't we upload it here? I'd do it but I don't know how to show an image on here.LedianX 14:59, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also, if you figure that Rugia -> Lugia, Ratiosu -> Latios, Ratiosu -> Latias, and even Deoxys, chances are Lucario will be the English name. But I fall back on "Lucario" being the spelling applied for trademark. --Meowth346

I'd like to point out that "orikaru" doesn't mean anything in Japanese. Oracle = Orakuru. Noxaengelus 07:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Wave-Guiding?

Where does this "wave-guiding" species come from? Since day one, I've been translating its species as "Pulse" or "Surge". Is there something I've been missing? --Meowth346

I think this is another blame Serebii.net moment, probably. - Ferret

It has to do with the kanji. Hadou (波動) is indeed "pulse" or "surge" (literally "wave movement"), but the title of the movie, which we assume uses the same word as Rukario's species, has 波導, which is not a word, and the second kanji of which means "guide" or "lead". - Murgatroyd 00:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Could Lucario be an evolution of Marowak? I know it may seem nuts as it isn't ground, but maybe this is what an unmasked Marowak looks like. They both center around death, have Bone Rush, and have the same general body shape (though Lucario is snazzier with spikes and all.) --123456789

It is nuts! It's more ridiculuos than the theory of Lotad's lily pad unfolding to reveal a a dinosaur-like head.--Pokencyclopedia 10:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah...how could people have forgotten that the skull-helmet on a Marowak magically makes its skin turn from blue to brown, and makes it shrink? Diachronos 23:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Just pick a name and stick with it

Please stop switching the attack name back and forth from 'Feint' to 'Faint'. It's going nowhere - I would encourage that this issue be discussed, rather than people editing back and forth between the two forever. --Pie 13:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely Feint. It's obvious from the attack description. Just because Faint Attack (which I firmly believe is a misspelling on the part of NoA, the Japanese means surprise attack or sneak attack, feint is a better fit than faint) exists and is similar... - 振霖T 13:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Faint Attack always confused me. I knew the description of the attack was like feint, but the word faint unconsciously makes me think the attacking Pokémon fakes passing out to trick the opponent. --Argy 16:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I always figured it had something to do with the Pokémon vanishing into the shadows, as it seems to do in the animation - basically, its image becomes faint. --Pie 19:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, but the attack description on that says, "Draws the foe close, then strikes without fail.", so I really have no idea what the animation is supposed to mean. - 振霖T 06:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, in Pokémon Stadium 2, the animation for Faint Attack is merely Double Team plus the user's taunt pose.

Smash Video

Here is a video that I found. I think it's real. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZh2oWZacm4 Cerberus 00:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

...Chyea it's real!486PokeManiac102492 00:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Cool, it looks like it's Final Smash is an Aura Blast or something....and yea, it's real. --Theryguy512 01:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I think it is Hyper Beam. Cerberus 01:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

No, it was defiently something that had to do with Aura. --Theryguy512 01:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
His final Smash is called Flash Cannon, information received from The Super Mario Wiki486PokeManiac102492 02:09, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

B = Aura spire, side B Extreme Speed, Up B High Jump Kick, Down B = Counter and FS = Flash Cannon? Cerberus 02:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

here486PokeManiac102492 02:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

No it has too be Aura Spire. Cerberus 04:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Internal data calls it "Wavestorm" and the trophy description confirms that it uses aura. --FabuVinny T-C-S 21:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Better then Hyper beam. Cerberus 01:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, someone needs to clear this up. Since I have Brawl, and I play Lucario almost exclusively, I'll post his special moves:

B: Aura Sphere. Charge-up ranged attack (like Samus' Charge Beam). Like most of Lucario's attacks, it gets stronger as he takes damage.
Side-B: Force Palm. Very short-ranged beam-like attack; changes to a stronger attack when an opponent is inside Grab range (Lucario actually grabs the opponent before slugging them, and I'm pretty sure the grab from the close-up hits will pass through Shields).
Up-B: Extremespeed. Similar to the Star Fox characters' Up-B moves, only it does no damage and you have some control over Lucario's movement after he starts moving (oddly, Pikachu's Quick Attack does damage even though it's weaker than Extremespeed in the Pokémon games).
Down-B: Double Team. A counter move that lasts about 4-5 seconds; If anyone attacks Lucario during the first 1-2 seconds of the move, Lucario will teleport behind them and do a sliding kick (like Mario's running Side-A attack). Moves won't be countered during the last 2-3 seconds of the move.
Final Smash: Aura Storm. Lucario shouts "Watch the power of Aura" (or something like that) and jumps up into the air, damaging any enemies in his path. He floats in midair while charging the attack, then fires a large beam that lasts for about 10 seconds; the beam can be aimed before it's fired, and it can be moved during the attack's duration (moves slowly, though).

Hopefully this will clear up any confusion about his special moves in SSBB. Diachronos 23:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

A possible mistake.

"This makes it the first non-legendary Pokémon to be in a central role in a Pokémon movie."

If I'm not mistaken, weren't the Unown the central focus of the third movie? I could be wrong about that, so I didn't make any alterations to the line I quoted. Eeveeman133 09:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Nah, Entei was. Though... eh, you do have us with that one. I think it's pretty much that before LMM came out everyone figured Lucario was legendary, but with P3 everyone was like "Oh, Entei, we know that's legendary and Unown's that piece of crap that comes in 26 flavors." TTEchidna 09:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
It was a co-central role, and so was Unown so...493OptimatumTalk|09:35 11 Mar 2008

Along that note, why is Lickitung noted in this article as being just as rare as Togekiss and Lucarios?--wytsalvy 14:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Rechanging something in Trivia

It says in the Trivia that "Lucario is the first Fighting-type Pokémon to be a fighter in the Super Smash Bros. series." But isn't it also the first Steel-Type pokemon that's a fighter in Super Smash Bros.?

Well it isn't as significant because Lucario is the first fighting type in a fighting game.Shadow1337 18:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Aura Sphere Contradiction

Why is it that aura sphere is never surpose to miss in the Pokemon games but can easily miss in Brawl? Even Lucario's trophy says it never misses.

Swift can miss because people dodge it, too. It's Brawl! TTEchidna 00:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
The so-called "never miss" moves hardly ever hit in the Anime either. And the designers seem to have forgotten what "Will never miss" means since Generation I; Before Generation II, Swift would hit an opponent even if it was using Dig or Fly, but it wouldn't hit anyone who was using moves like that from Generation II onward! Diachronos 23:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Brawl voice

Does anybody know who voices Lucario in Brawl?Morgil27 04:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The same voice as Goku in DBZ. Dexington 18:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

It's Bill Rogers... Sean Schemmel isn't even in the credits. --ケンジガール 03:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
He means, the other person to have voiced Goku, Dan Green. - Gold Dialga

Name origin

Since my former ideas are completely unrelated, I've deleted them (if you're curious, just check the recent history). The thing is, after much brainstorming and an accidental look at a Yu-Gi-Oh pic, I finally found the origin of Lucario's name. It's part of the word orichalcum with the kana in reverse. (Note: In the following explanation, silent letters will be italicized) While the standard Japanese spelling is オリハルコン (orichalcon), the latin form is written as オリカルクム (orichalcum), which in reverse is ムクルカリオ (muculuchario), then we take out the first two kana and get ルカリオ (luchario) or simply Lucario. The name makes sense, given Lucario's ancient/mythological design basis, and more particularly, its Steel type. So, if there aren't any objections, I'll be adding my theory as a main explanation. An easier wording would help, though. --Kaoz 01:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Lucario in Brawl

Should we add that Lucario is the only Playable Pokemon in brawl not from The 1st Generation? Pokemon94 17:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Eh. We did it with Pichu, so why not? R.A. Hunter B. 23:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I thought aboute it again , The Pokemon Trainer is red With His Gen 3 Design , So should that trivia be replaced .Pokemon94 02:05, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
The trivia about Red should only go on Red's page, or the Brawl page, not Lucario. And that trivia is already on them, so... R.A. Hunter B. 17:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Error under Special Ablities

"Lucario are also able ^ understand human speech,etc." ^to --♪ Jason Tong ♪ 08:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Fix it then! SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 10:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
That would require an admin. The page has been protected, presumably to prevent gun-jumping/speculatory trivia relating to the new Gen V Pokémon announced, given that Lucario was the first Gen IV announced. Werdnae (talk) 22:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Munchlax was the first. Taromon 18:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah it was protected--♪ Jason Tong ♪ 05:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
All done. —darklordtrom 08:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

OK

Why the crap was this protected in the first place?! CuboneKing 00:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Look in the previous section. Some people thought Zoroark might be an evolution of Lucario (back when all we had was a silhouette). I do agree that it can be unprotected now, though. --AndyPKMN 01:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, a year is way too harsh... CuboneKing 01:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Mistranslation

I think i remember hearing somewhere that it's name was mistranslated once, although i can't remember where. Any information on this? Flyingtypefan 23:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

What?? Plz elaborate. 梅子 00:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Priority moves

It can learn Feint, Quick Attack, Vacuum Wave, ExtremeSpeed, Bullet Punch - five of 11 +1 priority moves. And as well Helping Hand, Protect, Detect, Endure, Follow Me, which makes 10 of 20 increased priority moves in total. It appears this is the biggest number for single pokemon, however I'm too lazy to check it. ЫъГЬ 16:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

What about Smeargle? It can learn 20 of 20 and 12 of 11 + 1. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 16:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Smeargle differs from other pokemon too much in learning moves. Usually trivia like this have notice "with the exception of Smeargle". --ЫъГЬ 04:21, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Can it still learn Water Pulse?

It's no longer in the TM list. --*Ɣℯ№ӎօṫհ* 05:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Film Gender

This page refers to Lucario as her, but its character page refers to Lucario as male, which, if any, is correct? Vuvuzela2010 23:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

A user recently changed all the genders to female. It seems that particular edit was missed when things were being undone. It should be back to normal now. Werdnae (talk) 23:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Speed

Should we add that lucario is fastest non-legendary steel type? jomphol 04:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

He is not. --ЫъГЬ 10:58, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

oh sorry i see from chart at serebi.

MegaBlaziken X MegaLucario Y design

Compare MegaLucario to MegaBlaziken and you'll see that MegaBlaziken has an X in it's design and MegaLucario a Y in it's design. This should be noted when you guys add the info. Yamitora1 (talk) 13:16, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't see what makes that an interesting detail considering it's basically an exaggerated version of the same areas on their base forms... --Stratelier 00:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

MegaLucario

As with Mewtwo... 4'03" (1.3m) and 126.8 lbs. (57.5kg) Marked +-+-+ (talk) 16:08, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Description of Mega Lucario . . . where?

What would be a good place to add these details? Perhaps under Special Abilities is a good place to mention Lucario is capable of Mega Evolution, and I'll try my hand at a physiological description:

In its Mega Evolution, streaks of black fur now run across Lucario's body as a result of its increased aura energy, and its fur color fades to red along its hands and feet. There is an additional metal spike on each forepaw, smaller and located higher along the wrist, and its feet are now adorned with similar spikes; the black rings around Lucario's shoulders also bear small spikes as well. Lucario's cream-colored torso fur has spread across its shoulders and tail, which is now thickly furred (similar in appearance to Flareon's tail). The four appendages draped on the back of its head have lengthened considerably, now resembling a set of ribbons or streamers, two of which are red at the tips.

--Stratelier 00:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Here's a version copy edited to remove speculation (we don't allow that), comparisons to other species (also not in line with our preferred style) and other minor fixes.
In its Mega Evolution, streaks of black fur run across Mega Lucario's body and its fur color fades to red along its hands and feet. There is an additional metal spike on each forepaw, smaller and located higher along the wrist, and its feet are now adorned with similar spikes; the black rings around its shoulders also bear small spikes as well. Mega Lucario's cream-colored torso fur also covers its shoulders and tail, which is now thickly furred. The four appendages draped on the back of its head are very long, resembling a set of ribbons or streamers, two of which are red at the tips.
Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
And quote the XY website: "Black patterns creep up and around Mega Lucario's arms and legs—marks left behind by the heightened aura energy that thrums throughout its body." So that bit about aura isn't speculation. It'll at least go somewhere. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 10:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Okay. Needs to be cited, if we don't get that in a Pokedex entry in XY. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Mega Lucario Speed

Correct me if I'm wrong, but dosen't Mega Lucario have the highest base Speed of all Steel Types at 112, with Durant being the Runner up at 109? Seems like something that would go into the Trivia Section. AuraStorm13 (talk) 23:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

By Breeding table issue

The By Breeding Table won't sort by power correctly Yamitora1 (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Name Origin Curio

Is it possible the cario in lucario could be a corruption/mispronunciation of the word curio? Lucario is rare, and one of the meanings of curio is rare. Yamitora1 (talk) 10:13, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Curio refers to a strange object that invokes curiosity. Those objects doesn't necessarily mean rare. --超龍Chao 12:15, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Lucario were also only "rare" in one generation, and even then, you could breed as many as you wanted. Now, Riolu are as abundant as Zigzagoon. glikglak 12:22, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
The article states "It is an exceptionally rare Pokémon." Most words, including curio have more than one generic meaning. Most of the sites I've looked it up on always state its second meaning as something rare, not just something like a object or knickknack. Also the breeding thing is true of any Pokémon.Yamitora1 (talk) 07:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
I haven't seen any sites that mention its secondary meaning, aside from Merriam-Webster (bizarre person). Google defines it as a rare, unusual, or intriguing object. The fact that it uses or doesn't mean that curio has to be rare. Curio is merely derived from a shortening of the word curiosity. The emphasis of the word is on it being able to arouse interest. Besides, Lucario isn't a decorative object. --超龍Chao 11:16, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

You're focusing too much on the literal...also it could be argued that yes it is a object, or once was. Look at the Lucario and the Mystery of Mew movie, he was a staff before being released. Anyways I came across this little gem in my research, seems its either more evidence or a very good coincidence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Curio-coat_of_arms.svg Curio is a municipality in the district of Lugano in the canton of Ticino in Switzerland. Their coat of arms has a wolf's head on it. Yamitora1 (talk) 16:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

heh never mind, I'm just going let this go. Yamitora1 (talk) 16:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Korrina's Lucario

Should Korrina's Lucario get its own section under In the Anime>Major appearances? Currently, there's only two sentences about it under Other. --Rikeo (talk) 12:53, 7 July 2014 (UTC)