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Please leave your message by creating a new section below. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Small group

Pumpkinking, early Normal-type Pokémon like Patrat and Bunnelby is too small of a group to note right so I hidden a piece of trivia on each of the Pokémon pages anyway. --Cinday123 (Talk) 04:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Japanese seiyū

Hello, I've noticed that you've changed the term "seiyū" to "voice actor" on Becky's page twice. I won't undo your revision because we really shouldn't get into an edit war, but I have to remind you that the term "seiyū" is used when referring to Japanese voice actors in order to distinguish them from English voice actors. It's also a rule Kenji-girl established on the Project VA page.

Also, you suggested that the "List of Japanese voice actors" page use the term "seiyū" but then it'd be inconsistent with Becky's page...either we'd have to change both uses of "seiyū" to "voice actor" for both Becky's and the list's pages, or else we'd have to do the opposite for all other VA articles. GamerGeek 22:15, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

I didn't change it twice. After my first edit, I saw your edit summary pointing out Project VA's guideline, and as you can see, my second edit was merely to add a Wikipedia link. I don't see how using one or the other ("seiyu" or "voice actor") on all pages is inconsistent; if anything, the way we have it now is inconsistent, as we use two different terms on different parts of the wiki. We should pick one and be consistent with it across all pages. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:45, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Evolution

Evolution and its derivatives are always capitalized according to the Pokémon Syntax, what's wrong with it? --Cinday123 (Talk) 00:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

It'd be nice if you had cited that source in the first place. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:50, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
And please check the Pokémon Syntax if you noticed. --Cinday123 (Talk) 00:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Don't patronize me. I already acknowledged that I saw your source. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Aqua Ribbon/Wallace Cup

(link) It does, but I was going for with a Ctrl+F'ble solution here. And perhaps speaking just for myself, but I initially didn't even know the winner gets an Aqua Ribbon, so I wouldn't even know where to look.

Would you agree with simply moving it to the end, meaning while not getting in the way, we'd still have it easily noticeable? (edit link):

--Dettalk 16:19, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

The Aqua Ribbon is not the winner of the Wallace Cup, though, so that's not grammatically accurate. Would either "Aqua Ribbon for winning the Wallace Cup (Strategy with a Smile!)" or "Aqua Ribbon (Strategy with a Smile!) (for winning the Wallace Cup)" be sufficient? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Well, I've learnt not fight you people too much over what I think is right, so as long as it mentions that "Wallace Cup", I'm happy with what you think is best.
But to me the first suggestion seems a little "clumsy", though, as it deviates a bit too much from the rest and as a sentence might make you think 'well, why not name all the other Cups too?' (which I don't think even have names).
I'd personally go with either of these (the first one is yours):
--Dettalk 19:55, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Logical quotes

Should we just leave it the way it was when added, first come/first serve? Pikachu Bros. (talk) 15:18, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't normally believe in compromising on ideological grounds, but in this case it's in my favor, so I suppose so. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:26, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Scientific Trivia

Sorry to bother you, but could you help me understand a little better why you thought the piece of trivia on Steelix's page shouldn't have been there? I know it's no big deal, but pointing out something that is scientifically incorrect seems like a valid thing to put in a trivia section to me. AGGRON989 00:54, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

For the same reason that trivia about Wailord being less dense than air has been repeatedly removed from its page — it has to make assumptions about the Pokemon world working the same way as ours, when it clearly doesn't. Aside from the existence of Pokemon themselves, there are tons and tons of other completely ridiculous things in the Pokedex — Alakazam having an IQ of 5000, Ponyta's hooves being harder than diamonds, etc. Simply put, the Pokedex is just not a place for any kind of scientific data that makes sense in our world. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:12, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I hope you'll pardon the intrusion, but I'd also note that Steelix's entries only say its composition is diamondlike, not that it is necessarily made of diamonds. (Others even say it is harder than diamonds, which should imply that it cannot be made of them.) So the trivia point was off the mark in the first place. Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Shuckle trivia

Couldn't Shuckle potentially get Ice Ball through Mimic?--Cold (talk) 20:47, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

True. That wasn't listed in any of the original discussion about the trivium, though, so I hope it's understandable that I overlooked it, especially since Shuckle can't even get Mimic unless it's migrated forward all the way from FRLG or XD. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:52, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Mega stat trivia

Just so you know, Dennou made it pretty clear that that was just an opinion and is by no means binding. Now, I've seen SnorlaxMonster remove such trivia as well, so it's basically a de facto rule. I only decided to add the exclusion rather than remove the whole trivia because there has been no official rule. In my opinion, Mega Evolutions are not like pseudo-legendaries for several reasons: they are alternate forms, not just unusually strong Pokémon; they are not just a fan designation based on stats; and they are temporary, in-battle-only changes, which basically makes them no different than a stat-boosting move. As you can see from our edits, someone thought it notable that Archeops had the highest BST of all Fossil Pokémon, a group with only 11 members. I'd say that small groups like Fossils or Babies or starters should only note the highest BST, while larger groups like types and legendaries should note each highest stat as well. (Sorry for the essay, lol). --TheVeryBest 05:21, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

And in my opinion, any opinion by a staff member, even if explicitly non-binding, is better than having no policy at all, and is thus good enough to apply until another staff member disagrees. But I see your point, and agree that small groups shouldn't note such things. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Pokédex trivia

Nice work on dealing with removing all the trivia from those Pokédex trivia pages. Just so you are aware the only reason I added that trivia piece for the Kanto Pokédex regarding Magnemite and Magneton was that my attempt to alter the template itself regarding that information itself failed when I previewed it, so I decided to add that trivia piece instead. -Tyler53841 (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it makes more sense for it to be a trivia point than to try to jury-rig the templates in a way that probably wouldn't even end up being very clear to the average reader. :) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 23:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Plus unlike Johto, it did not require the creation of another Pokédex page, anyway thanks for the update on the trivia, as long as it serves its original purpose I don't mind if the wording is changed. -Tyler53841 (talk) 23:12, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Also one other thing to point out is let's wait until more concrete details regarding the Pokédex for the Ruby and Sapphire remakes is confirmed to affect what decision will be made regarding the Pokédex listings for Hoenn, especially since many of the Pokémon listed in it now have the Fairy-type attached to them which would only end with either a new page or a need for a new trivia piece. -Tyler53841 (talk) 23:26, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Roxie

I know where you're coming from, but for me, it doesn't matter whether the bass is left or right hand oriented. One can see that for themselves without the article having to tel them that.--ForceFire 03:00, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

And that's a much better (and more communicative) reason than "other people have removed it." Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:15, 8 May 2014 (UTC)