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Talk:Item

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Definition

Should we update our definition of item or should we stick to what we have right now? I'm having problems categorizing new objects from the Diamond and Pearl games. Should things like Spheres, Traps, Poffins, Goods (Underground), Treasures (Underground - can be placed in the bag but cannot cannot be picked up by players), Seals, and Accessories (contest) be considered as items even if those objects doesn't fit our current definition of an item? Please advise me since I have added Generation IV items in my list of work as part of my commitment to Bulbapedia's ItemDex Project. - Micael


Gen. IV

"an Itemfinder, a key item that has appeared in all the games so far."

Wrong. Either Gen IV does not have an Itemfinder, the Dowsing machine counts as an Itemfinder, or you get it after the Elite Four, but I can find all hidden items without it.

Please correct me, or change the page. I am unsure what to put, so can someone else make the change?

Yugiohguy1 16:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

The Dowsing Machine behaves like the item finder, just more like a radar-type. Gywall(Talk) 16:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

But ti's still not an Itemfinder, so this should be fixed. Schreiber 20:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

In Japan, the Itemfinder has always been called the Dowsing Machine. But the itemfinder still technically didn't appear as an item in DPPt. --AndyPKMN 21:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Interesting, but not particularly helpful. If no one makes any objections, I'll edit this in a day or two. Schreiber 00:08, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Gen II

"however, there were still no known places of reoccurring items on the ground"

I seem to recall there being a Moon Stone available at Mt. Moon Square that would appear every Monday night. 3190 09:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Since no one has replied, and I'm wondering the same thing, can anyone confirm or deny the Moon Stones recurring in Generations II and IV in Mt. Moon Square on Monday nights? Because if they don't, the Mt. Moon page needs to be fixed. Schreiber 20:33, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Battle Items

Why aren't they in the template?--Purimpopoie 16:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

and...

what about fake items? - unsigned comment from Ethan brendan lucas (talkcontribs)

What do you mean? You'll have to be more specific. --AndyPKMN 12:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Gen 5

Should we add a Poke Ball image of Generation five? --Funicode 18:52, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Portable Pokemon Center item?

I seem to recall when I first started playing Pokemon Platinum that I talked to a vendor who was selling an item that was supposedly synonymous to a portable Pokemon center. I don't recall the name or much about it other than that it required a red orb of at least 90+ size. I'm having trouble finding that item not just here but anywhere. Does anyone else know more about this item? --[[User:frenchhorn|<span style="color:pink">frenchhorn</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Frenchhorn|<span style="color:pink">talk</span>]])''</small> 22:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

It's a decoration. It's not portable and only meant for display in your secret base in the Underground. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 22:03, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

That was fast...--[[User:frenchhorn|<span style="color:pink">frenchhorn</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Frenchhorn|<span style="color:pink">talk</span>]])''</small> 22:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Recurring Items

There are also four Star Pieces hidden in various spots inside Iron Island in Pokémon Platinum, of which a few will regenerate daily (at midnight, it seems, according to the tests I've performed). Not all of these will necessarily regenerate, but apparently every one has a certain chance to do so. Should this be added to the article? Cheers, Haxorus 11:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Dream World

Not sure where to write this, but I don't see any information about Dream World locations on the pages about the items themselves (like here and here. Should I start adding some, or am I missing something? Dimenticare (talk) 01:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


Recurring gift items Section

I edited this section by adding all the appropriate links that I could find. That's my first edit so I hope I didn't messed up the page.--Sonic X (talk) 21:50, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Items found after battle in Gen VI

In some caves in Gen VI you can find an item after a battle if you break a rock that appears in the background (I've done this using Surf, so I assume that it takes a multi-target move). More research should be done on this phenomenon though: does it only occur in caves (victory road and the connecting cave are the only places I've noticed it happening so far)? Which caves/areas does it occur in? What items can be found? What exactly are the requirements for breaking the rock? Are there other background objects that can be broken and what happens if they are?

Also it seems like this page should only contain overview information on this phenomenon (which I just added). Should we make a separate page for this? If so, what should it be called? I'll nominate "Background Objects" as the name for the phenomenon but if someone suggests a better name we should use it. I'll create a new page with whatever name in a couple of days if nobody objects.

Pmawhorter (talk) 19:00, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

It also works on trees, sandpiles, rocks, grass, snowpiles and ice crystals. Each variation takes different moves to get the item. For example, whilst Surf works on stalagmites, it won't work on Berry Trees. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:05, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. Do you have info on the variety of background objects that appear and which moves interact with which objects? Pmawhorter (talk) 02:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Pmawhorter though maybe call them "Background items" to be more consistent. So far I've only found damp rocks using surf and muddy water on stalagmites, but there seems to be a lot more so I think a new page with a summary table would be good. Ackers.22 (talk) 13:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Recurring items split

Maybe instead of "Recurring items" it'd be "Recurring item", or "List of recurring items". I don't know. Thoughts on the title?

Anywho, the current section is a pretty horrible presentation. Basically any improvement on that presentation will make it longer, and it's the sort of thing that can stand very well on its own page. The section here can be reduced to a simple overview while the new page contains all the different items and better details for them.

I've currently got code for a good visual presentation of most of the recurring items, including gifts. It's at least as complete as the section here currently is (content-wise; I've not got the presentation for everything up to my standards at the moment).

Overall thoughts? Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:42, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd be all for this should it occur, i like the current page idea you have going, I'm not a fan of pages of tables though, but in some cases it's unavoidable. --Spriteit (talk) 14:24, 25 April 2014 (UTC)