User talk:Tiddlywinks

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How do I archieve?

I see you just archieved your talk page. I'm feeling my talk page has grown over the years to a size I feel like is more than enough long. Can I just do it on my own like you did with your talk page just now? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:07, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Yup, all you have to do is move it more or less wherever you want (with the tab at the top of the page). Make sure to link the archive on your new talk page, too. Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:10, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll do that when I get the chance. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:12, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Cosplay Pikachu

Tiddlywinks: To change costumes all you have to do is talk to the lady... That is already written. Sory I am new and still learningTripplekittys (talk) 22:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


I just wanted to thank you for your hard work with the e-Reader information for Colosseum. I've been trying to get a hold of that information for a long time and you managed to collect quite a substantial amount. So again, thanks! ht14 23:07, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Nmurthy deserves much of the credit for being the first to find the most recent information and start adding it here. I'm hoping I'll be able to contact the video's uploader, though, and maybe add even more info eventually. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:18, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Talk: Starter Pokémon

Christian (talk) 21:02, 20 November 2015 (UTC) Hi Tiddlywinks,

I feel this trivia fact in the anime is important and should not be deleted please.

  • Charmander is the only Kanto starter that was not obtained or caught by May.

May only got Bulbasaur and Squirtle, but not Charmander. She does have a Fire-starter, but it is from "Hoenn" not Kanto.

Three Pokemon is a small group, and two is a small number. It borders on coincidence. But honestly, I don't generally bother with the anime so maybe I've got the wrong perspective and others might feel different if you bring it up on the Starter Pokemon talk page. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:11, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Christian (talk) 02:05, 21 November 2015 (UTC) It might make a great trivia fact. Ash caught all the Kanto starters, but May only caught two of them. Soot yourself if you don't appreciate it. (Others would probably realize this too.)

Tiddlywinks is right, three Pokémon is too small of a group. So your trivia is unnotable.--ForceFire 03:40, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


I am not sure on the exact percents as I didn't dig up the info myself (as I've said on my talk page). I did check other things on my own, and for example there are indeed natural Spiked Tiles in Solar Cave. Eridanus (talk) 12:30, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, it doesn't look like the writer for the FAQ you linked explicitly said whether they got their numbers directly from the game or from lots of experimenting. I don't really mind practical estimations myself; my concern is just, if that's what they are (instead of ideal values), it should probably be noted. Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:42, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
I'll edit the pages appropiately. And use your template as it's far more convenient. Eridanus (talk) 12:52, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Pokémon Manga Location

Hi, you previously removed my addition to the Location part of PS001 saying that the infobo wasn't meant for more than one information.

Alot of other chapters such as PS002 contains more than one. I'm lost. MannedTooth (talk) 23:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Okay, that's partly my bad, then.
There's still a couple issues with what you were trying to add, though. First and foremost, as a guideline, how about we generally try to stick to places we actually have pages for on this wiki? (I.e., not "West part of Pallet Town's Forest".) Second, checking the summary, it really doesn't sound like Oak's Lab features at all prominently in PS001; so that's probably a reason against adding Oak's Lab there too. Also, while I do notice that PS005 includes the Gym as a location, other chapters like PS014 don't include Pokémon Tower and such; you can argue they should, but I would suggest this: most often, it's not really necessary to include locations within a town (like Oak's Lab) if that town is already given as the location.
Feel free to ask any other questions. I'm totally capable of being wrong or underinformed, so I'd be happy to hear if you see anything else that seems to contradict what I've said. Honestly, one of the Project Manga contacts may be a better person to try to talk to if you want more confident answers. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:10, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I totally understand that places that don't have a page are irrelavant, that's sorted out for me now. But for your exemple with Oak's Lab, even though it is IN Pallet Town, this is still a well-known and important place to be in the Pokémon game. But that's not my question, no, it's rather as you said, Oak's Lab is not the main place in which the chapter takes place, but at the end (2 pages or so) of the chapter, Red is outside of Oak's Lab and we can very clearly see that it is his lab since there's a sign and all that.
As you said, you might not be the best person to argue something like that since it's manga-related, but where should we draw the line? Is knocking at the door of a building before entering it counts as being a location, or does the character needs to be INSIDE of that location? Thanks for your fast and elaborate replies ! It's really appreciated. :) MannedTooth (talk) 00:18, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Just to be clear, I'll reiterate first: I don't really think Oak's Lab should be in the infobox at any point. Pallet Town is pretty much good enough, and the summary arguably suffices otherwise.
As for where the line might be: as a bare minimum, if a place isn't entered, it doesn't belong in the infobox. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Gotcha! MannedTooth (talk) 00:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Content removed

I had a couple of questions regarding my removed additions.

  • In Interviewers, you said "Please don't use "you". Also, quotes are for individuals, not Trainer classes"
    • I won't be using first person from now on, I will be using 3rd person. Thanks for the tip.
    • I agree with you on the fact that it should be for individuals, not for trainer class, but this one's tricky, since in every game, the interviewers are only 2 persons that stick together, so if you mention the game, you automatically know which trainer we are talking about. So what are the option here? I am seeing three:
      • We make an exception for this trainer class since, as I mentionned, they're unique in every game.
      • We make an exclusive page for each character and include their quotes in it.
      • We add to the trainer list their quotes from talking and initiating, winning or losing a fight.
  • In Player's House you said "Please stick to the 3rd person (not "we"). And that's not unique to ORAS"
    • As said previously, I will stick to the 3rd person. But can I still add this information?
    • Texts on Player's Houses signs aren't always written the same way even though they are very similar, should we put a table stating what every sign mentions for every generation?

Thanks again! :) MannedTooth (talk) 05:28, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

As for interviewers... Firstly, I'll note that we do have pages for Gabby and Ty and Roxy and Oli. But, secondly, it's really not guaranteed that any "interview" is conducted by those people unless that is explicitly conveyed. There's no reason other people can't have jobs as interviewers. (And thirdly, a "report" really isn't guaranteed to be conducted by "interviewers" either.)
For the house, I kind of think the sign is pretty trivial (and I don't mean that it belongs under Trivia). More, the differences between the signs are really trivial I think. If the sign would warrant any mention, it would be as part of the intro, not multiple times for each section. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:42, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
You're right, I haven't thought about the fact that others may be interviewers. For the next point, the game itself says that it's more than one ("we") interviewers than speak since it's written as so: "Interviewer: (text)" so it's probably them, but as you said, it's not guaranteed. As for the signs, yeah, it's pretty trivial, but it's still a part of the game's text/lore. Well, it's up to you, I'll stop mentionning it if it's that trivial. :P MannedTooth (talk) 05:51, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Quotes Mark. Why or Why not?

You recently removed the quotes on my TV shows' titles. Why is that so? I didn't quite understand the thing about the Teachy TV. As for the quotes themselves, the game uses them, shouldn't we use them too? MannedTooth (talk) 01:36, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Where does the game use them? I only noticed them in the quotes for one of the shows you were adding, and at least one other didn't have them. While on the other hand, none of the other sections except Teachy TV had quotes either. (Teachy TV is a little weird, so I won't say it definitely should or shouldn't use quotes.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:46, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Well, in fact, 3 out of the 6 shows I'm adding uses them. Considering Nadia Reports is not the official name. It's 3/5.
They are:
  • ThePokémon Whisperer,
  • What's that?
MannedTooth (talk) 01:53, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Well, the headers for the Unova shows (including its Koukan Talk) didn't have quotes either.
The simple answer, though, is that it's just a special, applied format... Like how APA insists you underline or italicize shows or songs or whatever. But that's just in bulk text, really; that doesn't mean we must do the same thing in the section headers, it's just a very different context.
Side question: can you tell me why you chose to title the one section as Nadia Reports? In short, is that totally invented by you? Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:05, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
No, I took it from the Kalos Shows list. MannedTooth (talk) 02:07, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
OK. Someone should look into whether that's really the best title... Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:10, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

trainer tips layout

Want me to reproduce the layout as in ORAS? I skip a line everytime the game does, is that it? MannedTooth (talk) 04:47, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

I already did. But like I said, there needs to be an actual ORAS format for that template first. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Well, if you corrected the format, why do you keep it hidden? MannedTooth (talk) 04:54, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Because the Emerald format does not work properly with the ORAS text (and, again, there's no ORAS format currently). Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:57, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Ooohh, that's what you meant! Sorry! Now I understand. :P MannedTooth (talk) 05:06, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Trying to delete discussion on main page

i am currently unable to delete the post I started on the main page. I want to delete it because I shouldn't have started a post out of "anger". Once again, Im sorry. MannedTooth (talk) 07:49, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh, well, that's better than what I thought it was, you trying to remove all comments after your first. =P As I did say on your talk page, though, talk page comments usually are not allowed to be removed. Tiddlywinks (talk) 07:52, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I knew you were gonna think I was trying to remove your comments... That stressed me out meanwhile I was struggling on my iPad, I really, really, don't mean harm to the website, nor do I want people to think I am a cheater, only wanted to delete my bad move. (Feeling bad about the fact that might start to get annoyed by all the trouble I've put you through, once again, gomen!) MannedTooth (talk) 07:57, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm just fine, but thanks. =) All I can really tell you is, if it at all deserves removing, I'm sure someone higher up will do it. (But I wouldn't count on it.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:01, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
A huge thank you for being so patient with me ^^ is this a good place for discussing what I was saying earlier? I would want to keep improving plots' quality. As for the Professor Oak thing, I wasn't so sure about that, you might be right, I just thought "Oak" was too... Hm.. Friendly, I guess? Anyways, as for the collective nouns, are those okay? Should they be considered 3rd person singular as I said or ..? MannedTooth (talk) 08:08, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Basically, I'd advise just leaving the collective nouns alone. IMO either way can be valid—I can even change my mind from one moment to the next. Like I kind of think "Team Rocket overhear Clemont and Bonnie talking about Snover and decide to take revenge on Abomasnow" is better than "overhears"/"decides", but then I think "Elsewhere, Team Rocket have also followed the group to the snowy mountains" is not as good as "has".
The other thing you mentioned, "Red sends out Poliwhirl and uses Water Gun", is not a wording I really have much problem with personally. And to be nitpicky, "makes him use Water Gun" isn't a great-sounding alternative IMO. Because, on the one hand, the Trainer is making the decisions; and on the other, it kind of gets awkward if you'd always have to say "makes [it] use". There may still be ways around both issues (like "Jessie sends out Gourgeist to attack with Shadow Ball and Seed Bomb"), but the best thing in the end may just be to get used to it (which of course is entirely up to you and your "conscience", so to speak). Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:29, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
After a quick research, I have come with some more information concerning collective nouns, well explained on this page:

In short: a team, for instance is always one thing, but it appears like I was part wrong, since when it acts as a whole, it's singular, and when it acts as individuals, it's plural. Examples:

  • Team Rocket IS looking for somewhere to hide.
  • Team Rocket ARE taking care of THEIR Pokémon. (Jessy for Ekans and James for Koffing for instance)

My "<trainer> makes <pokemon> uses <move>" phrasing is not that good I admit, but we should find a better way to do so, since even if it's minor. Let's say Ash asks Bulbasaur to tackle Blue. Is Ash tackling Blue? No, Bulbasaur is, on Ash's order.

Anyway, these are little details that are worth looking up in official sources since, if we want to build a real, good encyclopedia, our grammar/wording must be top-notch! ^~^ MannedTooth (talk) 08:41, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Streamlining signature

"I'm curious. Why do you streamline" your signature every time? Shouldn't it be possible to just edit it in your preferences so that part you keep removing never appears?": Is it possible to do that?

Jdogno4 (talk) 06:59, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Click the preferences link at the top of any page. The third box should be for your signature, and if you enter [[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) in the new signature box, I think that'd make your signature appear like you want.
On a side note, it's usually best to reply to someone's original comment directly (like mine on your talk page) instead of starting a brand new comment on their talk page. Tiddlywinks (talk) 07:03, 25 January 2016 (UTC)


Thanks for updating the Genesect article. I just found a source that sites the code life. Do you think a source for the events should be provided? Blado (talk) 17:25, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

If you follow the event link, there is a link to Bulbanews article and links to the 20th anniversary site. I suspect that's the sort of source you were thinking of? Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Number of badges needed

So, if I know that it's not 1, what should we put? Since writing 1 is a lie/mistake. MannedTooth (talk) 21:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Put 2 if that's right. Or 3 if that is. Or 4, or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8. You can take the time to figure it out. "?" is just a bit too odd.
(FWIW, you may also want to check the shops just before you get a Badge, just to see if there was maybe something in between that actually changed it and you don't mistake that for a Badge.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:04, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Is there a way to improve this template? Like, if I change something on it, I need to change it for ALL the shops in Hoenn Gen 6 which is like for every city... Can't we just make a template already filled up with the good info and simply add it to every page we need it? As a programmer, that seems more logical to me, that makes your code (wiki) more DRY (don't repeat yourself). MannedTooth (talk) 22:21, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Basically, no, it's easier to just change every page.
Strictly speaking, it probably could be done, but I'm pretty sure the cons will outweigh the pros. ("Pretty sure" in part because it depends on how exactly you want to implement it. And also because I'm not an expert on how templates burden a wiki; I just know they do to an extent/at a certain point. You unfortunately can't do everything with a wiki you might like to with a custom program.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:37, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Well, I don't know about the burden (but to me, one instance is less heavy than many) but I know enough about wiki templates that I know this can be done, and as you said, except for the burdening (which may even be smaller imo). All you have to do is create the template already filled, and then add it where you want, when you change the original, they all change, so much more ergonomic and easy-to-use. Who are the ones who decide the template stuff? I would like to discuss that with them. ^~^ MannedTooth (talk) 22:42, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Well, I can tell you that when a template needs to be improved, one of the first things that gets done is to manually substitute any nested template calls. It has to do with this sort of thing and everything that's on that page I think. So a template that's just a thin wrapper for another template probably won't exactly be appreciated.
But if you really want, sure, I can try to direct you to someone else...? Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:00, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Consistency on Route 110

In the game, they appear in this order : Plusle on the left and Minun on the right.

(It's a 2v2 battle) MannedTooth (talk) 02:51, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

1) In a battle, Trainers face each other. So your left Pokemon (which is your first) is not opposite their "left"/first Pokemon.
2) The game also says, "sent out Plusle and Minun", not Minun and Plusle. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:57, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Oh, yeah, right! You never stop to be right don't you? ahah MannedTooth (talk) 03:03, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Paradoxically, the secret is to never trust that you are. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:06, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, you see, I try to be humble about everything and accepting what others tell me, like, the first time I joined the wiki, I didn't understand your way of doing things. But now that I more or less understood, I try to verify every sources and accept other's arguments. (although, you saw that I love arguing) :P MannedTooth (talk) 03:08, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Deleted shop

I know it was already mentionned that there were move tutors, but I think we should still make a section for the shop that does so instead of all putting in move tutors. (Talking about Mauville City) MannedTooth (Talk) 14:35, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

You hardly added anything with those shop sections. The Ultimate Move Shop is the one exception, but only barely. Ultimately, you were pretty much only adding the signs for each shop. And that's not nearly enough justification for making entirely new sections on the page. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:06, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, there was content to add, simply I didn't go in depth. I was planning to do that later. MannedTooth (Talk) 15:10, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
You still shouldn't duplicate/overlap the move tutors section. Didn't you say it before: D.R.Y. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:16, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
T_T you can't use my own sentences against me only when that helps you x) MannedTooth (Talk) 15:18, 3 February 2016 (UTC)


You should probably ask before removing (like you did now), especially if you don't know the concepts, if you don't want people to get mad :D

Ninjas are very often associated with the moon (and the night) in Japanese folklore. The word "moon" implies a "night", from where Greninja's Dark Type comes from.--Omojuzeforever (talk) 16:01, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

There's not really anything I could quote you from the top of my head. Though if you have ever read/watched ninja stories, the ninjas are said to move "with the moonlight". Almost all of their most dangerous missions are on nights that have either a "full moon" or a "crescent moon". Sorry, can't really quote you anything from the top of my head. Also, the "moonlight" implies "night", which is "darkness", from which Greninja's Dark-Type comes.--Omojuzeforever (talk) 20:05, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Quotes

Hey, I would like to start doing exactly what I'm doing for ORAS, but this time, for PMD Blue Team. What would be the best way to document quotes and such?

Shall I create a page for every notable NPC in the game?

MannedTooth (Talk) 17:57, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

You'll either have to look through Pokémon Mystery Dungeon characters to find some examples or just ask someone who deals more with PMD. Outside the core games, I've pretty much only played games that can connect with them (Ranger, Colo/XD). Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
I already looked aat these lists, but the problem is that they are just a bunch of Names and Description more or less. I was thinking about creating pages for every one. Just like I saw for ORAS, I would try to "mimic" the way it's done. So if anything's wrong, you can always help me improve it. What do you think? MannedTooth (Talk) 18:21, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm saying I don't really have the first clue. It'd be easier for you to just try to ask either someone who's more familiar with PMD or else who takes more responsibility for "Games" as a whole. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:30, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Streamlining signature.

"Jdogno4, your signature is appearing with "--" at the beginning because you are clicking the signature button, which inserts --Jdogno4 (talk) 08:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC).": I get that. "However, this is in no way forcing you to save your posts with that "--" before your signature.": I get that as well. "You may either delete the "--" before your signature before you save your post, resulting in only Jdogno4 (talk) 08:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC), or you may forego the signature button entirely and simply type Jdogno4 (talk) 08:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC) at the end of your posts manually.": I suppose I am trying to avoid deleting the "Jdogno4 (talk) 08:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC)" when I remove the "--". There is less chance of that once the signature is stamped.

Jdogno4 (talk) 08:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

upload please

I am currently making Hazel's Pikachu page. I need this image to be uploaded:


Thanks! MannedTooth (Talk) 16:47, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

I'd suggest just focusing on making the page in your userspace for now so it can be determined whether it's notable for the mainspace. Until then, it's not too important whether it has a picture or not. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

About the six month old discussion

Hey hello,

You removed my question with the message that I should refrain from commenting on six months old discussions. Sorry about that, I thought it was still appropriate.

Do you think I should add a new section next time or do I have to do something different? Editing Wiki's isn't really my speciality, but please let me know! :)

Kind regards, MistrX (talk) 20:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

If you have a new question or something (or a different angle, or whatever), then yes, it would be preferred if you just started a new section. For more information, check out our talk page policy (the part about old discussions is specifically under talk page etiquette). =) Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:51, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

New template? (again, I know)

So, I had another idea of template for the wiki, and since you're the latest online and the one I'm more "familiar" with (I'm sorry by the way hehe), I thought I'd show it to you.

So, basically, it is a template intended to go on the top of pages to make sort of a summary of the item/page with the quote of someone in game.

Just look at the template itself, you'll understand.

Let me know what you think, being in computer sciences, I dig making templates! :3 MannedTooth (Talk) 23:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it really works for me (not talking technically). I tried your default on the Pokédex page, and IMO it just comes off too casual for what the wiki is generally aiming for... Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:11, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, it's kinda just intended to be a light and concise summary without going into details. I got this idea from the Don't Starve Wikia (ex: ) and I thought it was pretty sweet. But if it doesn't go with the wiki's goal, I'll just forget about it. Do you have any template ideas? :P MannedTooth (Talk) 00:16, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I can't think of anything off the top of my head. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:40, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

The Preview Botton

My bad! I was doing it at night and I had to stop to focus on other things, but yeah, won't happen again :) --LHakaLH (talk) 20:41, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

I wasn't sure :P

As I said in my edit summary, I thought that this was the name of the guy that was playing. MannedTooth (Talk) 03:11, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Upload please :P

Can you upload this? If you can, I'll have more.


Thanks! MannedTooth (Talk) 15:24, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

That doesn't look like great quality to me. I'd suggest either checking it with Maverick Nate or bringing it up directly at the Archives. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
What about this? [2] MannedTooth (Talk) 15:57, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
We already have the English print. Even if we didn't, we would have no need for it. The only time we'd want card images that aren't Japanese or English is if the card is actually different from those prints (or doesn't exist in them). glikglak 16:05, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I know, and it is different. Look carefully, it is in english, and the text is on the right side, basically, the card is flipped from its jap/en version. MannedTooth (Talk) 16:14, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, never mind what I just said, only thing different is the langage of the attack on the art. Is that notable? MannedTooth (Talk) 16:15, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
That's the same as the Japanese print. glikglak 16:23, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Just to let you know for future reference, MannedTooth, any Korean TCG images must be approved by Maverick Nate before being uploaded. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:42, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I'll keep that in head, is there any particular reason for this? MannedTooth (Talk) 16:52, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Primarily, Maverick Nate heads the TCG effort here on Bulbapedia. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:01, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Prof. Oak and Birch

I thought that misspellings and other issues were ok to place in the Trivia section of the main article considering the Professor Oak article. Should that Oak example be removed as well or am I mistaken is some part? --Super goku (talk) 21:06, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't get where there's any misspelling or anything. Feel free to be as elaborate as you want trying to explain it to me =P , because I just can't see anything wrong with it. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:28, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Here is how the line goes, "Great! I'm sure May'll be happy to hear that, too." For some reason, the text combines May's name with the word will to create "May'll" for some reason. I had a few issues wording it in the article, so I might not have been clear on what the text displayed. --Super goku (talk) 02:01, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Are you saying that it is an error? :o MannedTooth (Talk) 02:03, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
"For some reason"? That's a very natural thing in English, contracting "will" like that. Like I said, it doesn't seem to be any problem...
Can I ask, do you know what it says for Brendan? Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:06, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Contracting with a proper noun is correct? MannedTooth (Talk) 02:09, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry MannedTooth, but I'd really like to not have to try to carry on two separate branches of this discussion at the same time. If Super goku and I can resolve the main issue here, then if you still have questions, feel free to bring it up again then, please. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:11, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry to Tiddlywinks for causing the issue without checking more into it. Based on what you said and looking at footage, you can use the contraction of the word will with a name. Sorry for the trouble. --Super goku (talk) 03:09, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Where is th- Oh...

I had to Ctrl+F to find it. :o Isn't that a sign that it's not evident ? xP MannedTooth (Talk) 00:27, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


Congrats on new rank. :) - unsigned comment from Tripplekittys (talkcontribs)

Thank you. =) Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:43, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

MC Images

Why is all the images on here are linked as sources at the bottom and not uploaded? MannedTooth (Talk) 23:13, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

It is against Bulbapedia policy to copy and upload images from a website without permission from the website owner or an affiliate. We prefer scans/pictures from our own users. Hence, this is why the aforementioned images are referenced and not uploaded. SirFinkleBottom 23:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Even when these come from official sources or that we mention where it comes from? MannedTooth (Talk) 23:25, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I sympathize with that question, MannedTooth, but I'm not 100% certain how strict our policy is in that regard. Certainly official images are usually OK, but when other companies enter the picture...
Going by the style of the pages for previous generations of figures, though, it could also be that it would be preferable to have pictures of the figure including its packaging, and the references are mostly meant as a stopgap measure. (Since Lady Ariel added all of those references, it may also be faster if you simply asked her why she did it like that.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:33, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I found that this image [3] (for example) is tagged with its website, so can I use images from that website? If I can't, I am willing to upload take pictures on my own, only thing, I am not confirmed on the archives due to a lack of edits; there is nothing to edit, so is there a way to confirm me manually so that I can upload these? I also have plenty of Roaring Skies cards in english that I would be able to upload in order to replace the japanese that are currently there. If I add pictures/scans, my edits requirement will be met anyway, right? :P MannedTooth (Talk) 00:33, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
If you think there's nothing to edit, you haven't looked hard enough. Like the saying goes: where there's a will, there's a way. Learn about the Archives and then look around to figure what you can improve.
Also, let me just say this: if you have any questions about the TCG, direct them to Maverick Nate (or at least anyone but me). I really don't know enough about our TCG effort here (or the TCG in general) to advise on much of anything about it. Nate would definitely be able to give you a definite answer about TCG issues. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:26, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
On another note, should the Monster Collection page be renamed MONCOLLÉ. I'm no expert in this, but according to this the official name and logo has changed to MONCOLLÉ. If not, it should at least be mentioned. --Wowy(토크) 08:11, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Suggested. It will receive consideration in due time. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:47, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Thought I would answer the question about those references on the page. They are meant to be sources for the release date of the figures (and if you look closely at the links, not all of them actually link to a page with a picture of the figure), but it just happens most of the links also include a picture of the figure. Lady Ariel 21:01, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Template:Mystery dungeon items

Hey why not link TMs and HMs in this template to List of TM and HM locations in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon instead? --Raltseye 14:40, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Hm. I'm not sure, maybe. I'll see if any other staff have any thoughts about it. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:31, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

hitting pokemon

what rips of XY images are you talking about that says hit? Yamitora1 (talk) 12:41, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Images for XY (same place I got File:ST basic bag.png from) that I previously received from Kaphotics when I asked about any such resources. I've not seen the link he gave me in public anywhere else, so I'm not sure if it's okay for me to just share that, but you could always ask him about it if you want. The images may also be available to anyone who has a decrypted ROM, scattered around the file structure.
Beyond that, though, there were still problems with your latest reasoning. Mainly, if, with the 'normal' "poking/prodding", you were referring to when you just tap once on the Pokemon, then that's defintely not "poking/prodding"; that exact same effect happens when you tap away from the Pokemon too. And IMO, there's much more to the "hit" SFX than just a shortened rubbing SFX.
At any rate,'s definitely something we should continue to discuss here or on Amie's talk page (where it'd be easier for random people to join) rather than risk edit warring about it. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:46, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

User possibly abusing multiple accounts

Hello, I believe that the user Lukeno94 is using this account when they already have one. In a comment on "Talk:ROM Hacks" it said something about not being able to access their old account. I'm telling you about this because it's against policies so you or any other admin can decide what should be done.Sly Fox (talk) 18:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

EXs & Breaks of Fates Collide.

Hi, there. I need to clarify something and I didn't want to bother Maverick Nate. Is it okay if I remove all the EXs and BREAKs added today to the english set list for now? Users are always told here to not copy information from other sites, specially PokéBeach. And I'm pretty sure the user who added those cards only did it because he saw the article at PokéBeach. Other than there, I haven't seen that information anywhere else so it can't be properly confirmed. Metalizard (talk) 22:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Honestly, the TCG is definitely not my area of expertise. As far as Fates Collide (TCG) goes, the only judgement I can make is that Nate already visited that page, so either he thought it was okay or he didn't notice. If you were sure it was improperly sourced, though, I'd say go ahead. But in short, it may be best to ask Nate anyway. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:27, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Ones revealed via images are fine*. The ones revealed via text on other sites are not and should honestly be removed however, since false information is frequently posted on said sites (I'm pretty sure N kept getting removed because a certain site said it wasn't a part of the main expansion, which isn't true.) Feel free to remove it. MaverickNate 22:50, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks both of you for answering. I was just confused and started wondering if the cards had actually been confirmed somewhere else. Metalizard (talk) 02:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Need a small favor

Since we both have done some good work for the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire page, could you come over to my talk page and participate in the recent discussion regarding an edit I had to revert for a noble reason on the ORAS page. -Tyler53841 (talk) 01:01, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

'File appearance

I wanna be a Glitch PKMN. You don't understand. - unsigned comment from Scooterscanley (talkcontribs)

No offense, but if you're just joking, there was no need for this comment. (I only mention this because you just previously made another idle comment. I just want you to understand that talk pages are meant for improving the wiki.)
If you're not joking: categories are reserved for pages that belong there. User pages only belong in categories like User groups. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:21, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

ALSO: Any advice for TMs/HMs? Whenever I preview my profile page, all it displays is all the text I've entered. scooterscanley (talk) 18:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Your header and footer only have one "}" at the end; it should be two ("}}"). Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:45, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Ah. Also, why does it say "Character for Old man glitch", and why is the Johto Guard Glitch/Time Capsule Exploit excluded?scooterscanley (talk) 19:20, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
I would guess the Old man glitch part is the same as the Mew special stat thing, it's what you need to get that glitch 'mon using that glitch. The Time Capsule exploit part that's in the regular GlitchPkmnInfobox template isn't there simply because that template was updated after the Nocat version was split off. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:58, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

re. Fury Swipes

I made the change because as it stands, it's implying that three and only three hits is the most probable outcome, which is not true: it has the same probability as two hits at 37.5% each. It means to say that three or more hits is likely (37.5% + 12.5% + 12.5% for a 62.5% chance of three plus hits). This yields an above average likelihood that the power yield will be 18 × 3 or more, resting on an average power of 54.

I'm not sure what is confusing about this, especially given the current wording. DKqwerty (talk) 19:52, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

If you performed the move 100 times, you'd likely get 300 hits. That averages to 3 hits every time the move is used. That's what an average usually is, an arithmetic mean. You're talking about mode. The current wording is perfectly correct and/or adequate. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:05, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Oddish debut

I feel that something is overlooked. It says in GDZ25 that another Trainer owns the Oddish instead of Shu while Shu's page mentioned that he owns the Oddish in that chapter. Can you clarify which chapter is the actual debut for Shu's Oddish? PattyMan 21:58, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Actually, at the end of the chapter, the unnamed Trainer offers Shu his Oddish as an apology for what it did. I guess I never gave it much thought. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:25, 14 March 2016 (UTC)


Hey Tiddlywinks! Just a thought, but to my knowledge there aren't any pages or categories putting all the moves available in Pokémon Conquest in one place. Since there aren't any new moves introduced in Conquest, would it be appropriate to make a category for these moves?--Wowy(토크) 00:23, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

That sounds good (and easy, with the move template). I'll just double-check it with other staff real quick and hopefully I can make that happen. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:33, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Sentences ending with prepositions

Hello, you recently reverted an edit made to Gengar's page. Is it really okay to end a sentence with a preposition? My English teacher made it very clear that a sentence should never end with one.Sly Fox (talk) 23:26, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it's okay. With all due respect to your teacher(s), that rule just doesn't match normal English discourse. I don't even mean "casual" discourse. I mean, no matter how formal almost anyone is trying to be, there's just no way they're going to put enough thought into their speech to avoid prepositions at the end of a sentence. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I know they're not remakes.

My point was, they could've changed it just like the Pikachu minigame thing. The only reason I brought it up was that they left the game corner unchanged, despite gambling laws forcing them to change/remove them in other games. I hope this clears things up. Unowninator (talk) 18:47, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

The primary problem with what you wrote, sure, was implying that the VC games were remakes. Beyond that, I'm not entirely certain what's rightest, but I lean against it just because "no change" should pretty much be the expectation. One place it'd be more directly relevant/notable, though, is Pokémon controversy#Gambling. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:00, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Template:Pokémon Infobox

Hi, I was just wondering if it would be possible for someone to please edit Template:Pokémon Infobox to account for the unique names of the alternate forms belonging to Zygarde and Hoopa (similar to what was done for Charizard and Mewtwo's dual Mega Evolutions); as it is now, the template displays them kind of backwards. I can't edit the template myself as it's protected.

Xérnéas (talk) 07:13, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

It's protected for good reason. A template with such heavy use (and so complicated as well) is not wise for anyone (even staff) to edit freely. It's not the highest priority, but we should get around to it...eventually. We still need to update the hatch time calculation, too. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:57, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Just a heads up

I think you might have meant to say "Café is the proper spelling" instead of "Cafe"--Cold (talk) 04:55, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought I did =P , thanks. I worded that first one differently at first, and then when I came to make it like others I wrote below, I must have screwed it up. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:59, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

help identifying a weird glow in battle

Lately I've been encountering a strange ominous red glow on Pokemon in the Battle Spot, and all my attempts to search for the cause leads to incorrect search results and several rule 34 results. I seem to encounter it on Shiny Pokémon a lot. Here is a Vs Recorder of a battle I encountered it, watch the Mismagius.


It looks like either eyes or ribbon loopsYamitora1 (talk) 13:36, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Further in the battle the same red eyes or ribbon loops appear on a shiny Umbreon Yamitora1 (talk) 13:40, 4 April 2016 (UTC) Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:21, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank youYamitora1 (talk) 11:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Slowpoke as a Water Bear

Nah, that was the right link. I mean, it may look strange but I'm sure they're based (not only psychically) on Water Bears (AKA tardigrades): they have similar body and limbs shapes; Slowpoke, and Slowbro, both have some ursine characteristics (suggesting a pun) and the name Tardigrada itself means "slow stepper".

I'd like to ask you to reconsider this one. ExLight (talk) 19:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

What I see is eight limbs and segmented bodies, and mandibles. And they're miscroscopic. I could go on... They're pretty much nothing like Slowpoke.
Your pun is fairly abstract. In the absence of any other stronger connections, it just comes off as a stretch to me. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:13, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Help in editing my discussion page

I want to clear the content of my discussion (talk) page but a error message came Vandal Filter 3 and asking an administrator to do that. Please help! Subhraneel (talk) 03:47, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Subhraneel

Well, in the first place, people aren't really supposed to "remove" a talk page's contents anyway. What we ask users do as an alternative is archive their talk page. Try that. =) Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:19, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Quick question about pkmn template links

Should these be actively replaced? Part of the reason I decided to use {{pkmn}} (for the Pokémaniac and Tuber pages at least) was because every other Gen VI trainer class page used it in their "Art from"/"Appears in" bits and I wanted to be consistent.--Cold (talk) 19:39, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I didn't exactly think all that far about it ( ^^; ). I was just thinking I didn't want to leave those changes and thereby "encourage" more use of pkmn for anyone who might see those. But if it's really used so regularly, it'd certainly be best if we could replace it with a proper game template.
...Assuming I'm not just being "silly" about this distinction. =P I had this idea someone told me not to use "pkmn" before, but it may be I just imagined that (I can't find where that might have been from a brief search). Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:53, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Re: New pages/notability

Oh, sorry about that. Just thought that since Bulbapedia was a primary place for people to look stuff up, it should have full lists for Battle Maison stuff. I wanted to add the quotes for Trainers since there seemed to be a lot of fascination around those on the web.

And on the topic of keeping up-to-date info (despite almost being Gen VI), can you look at the Cute (condition), Cool (condition), Beauty (condition), Clever (condition) and Tough (condition) page? I made fully-working tables updated for ORAS a while ago and left them on each of the discussion pages until the mods decide to update. Thanks. TehPerson (talk) 01:06, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Also, I know you said there was nothing wrong about the Trainers and Pokemon page, but the code is extremely hefty. Editing would be so much less laggy if I could use one template instead of 5ish newlines per entry. TehPerson (talk) 01:08, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
For future reference, if someone posts on your talk page, respond there. (If everyone went back and forth, each person's talk page would only be half a conversation. =P ) Conversations should be kept in one place.
When a page gets to a certain size, it just gets unwieldy, and I don't think templates necessarily help. But how much information have you still not included? Are you still gathering information somehow? (And/or how?) Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:21, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

repeated links

In Route 124 Surf is linked in items, but it also linked in the right side bar. So it's already linked twice? - unsigned comment from EternalDragonX (talkcontribs)

The infobox can usually be "ignored" for that sort of consideration. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:19, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

But a Lucky Punch doesn't work on Happiny.

Shouldn't this fact just be on Chansey's page? Unowninator (talk) 05:43, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

First off, don't put part of your conversation as a discussion title. That's not what a title is for, and it just becomes easy to miss, as well. If you can't think of what you should put, just use the page name where your issue originates (like "Happiny").
As to your question: It's talking about the family. I think it's fine. Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:37, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

That Colosseum thing.

I don't understand your explanation for removing this:

Also, any Pokémon absent from Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire that are in Colosseum (whether they're catchable or not) were all introduced in Generation II.

To elaborate, the only gen 1 Pokemon trainers used were the ones that were in Ruby & Sapphire (from this list) [4], such as Zubat, Geodude, and Tentacool. Anything from gen 1 that's not on the list, such as Onix, Porygon, and Snorlax were not used by any trainers.

You said:

It's mostly expected that a pair of games opening a generation lets you catch all the new Pokemon. That only leaves Gen I & II, so the last part is obvious/not notable

I fail to understand what makes it obvious. Can you please elaborate? Thanks. Unowninator (talk) 15:48, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

You've already excluded Gen I with the start of your point. So it very literally doesn't need saying that any Pokemon not in RS are from Gen II: that's the only (reasonable) possibility! Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:06, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I get what you're saying. But just so we're clear, you do understand I'm talking about your opponents & not the player, right? Unowninator (talk) 16:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
I have no idea what distinction you're trying to make.
Also, please use ":"s to indent your responses one space farther in than the previous reply. It should be simple enough to understand if you look at the code here when you reply. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:15, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, force of habit; another wiki I use doesn't enforce it.
So you still don't get my explanation, huh? Hmm... Okay, you know how only 200 Pokemon are obtainable in Ruby & Sapphire? (See this [5] for which ones) Some of the Pokemon from gen 1 couldn't be caught or seen in either game.
Now you know how when you see a Pokemon in Colosseum, it gets registered into your P★DA (like a Pokedex)? Well, let's say you battle every single trainer and snag every Pokemon. Now if you look at your P★DA, the only gen 1 Pokemon you'll find are the ones on that list I gave you. There was no way to get Raticate & such on there until Firered & Leafgreen came out. If you still don't understand, which part(s) don't you get? Unowninator (talk) 16:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
(Reminder: Use preview and/or use the indent on your whole response, please.)
I never assumed you were talking about Pokemon traded in from another game. That kind of completely ruins any point. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:33, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Technically I wasn't talking about trading; I only brought up FR/LG because I didn't know how to explain it any better, and I still don't. Also, if we keep indenting, won't it get a little... messy? Unowninator (talk) 16:39, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
There's nothing "messy" about indentation. What's messy is mixing it back and forth (or not using it at all).
If you can't understand what you're trying to say well enough, then I'm sorry, but I just can't exert myself too hard to try to understand you in your confusion. As far as I'm concerned, this whole conversation has basically been about Pokemon obtainable within Colosseum alone. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, so you still think this is about obtainable Pokemon? That would explain the confusion. I'm not talking about that at all; I'm talking about Pokemon you can battle, but can't actually catch. For example, Lady Venus has a Steelix & Vileplume but you can't actually get one. However, they still get registered to your P★DA just from battling her. Unowninator (talk) 16:51, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Then I'm just going to say it's not important. Or too complicated to be important. Obtainable Pokemon? Sure. Just encounters? If it's not very straightforward (very easy, simple, perhaps "natural" delineations), it's not really worth noting. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:59, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, well, at least you finally get it. Even if you don't add it, I'm just glad I finally explained myself. Sorry about the whole thing; I'm not always good with words. I'm usually either too specific or too vague. Thanks for talking this through. I hope I wasn't a bother.Unowninator (talk) 17:03, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Re: Battle area templates

Thank you for making the battlearea templates. That should help save a lot of memory when editing. I have created a header and footer to go along. They are different, but hopefully an improvement on, what already exists. TehPerson (talk) 18:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

King's Rock

Ooooohhhh right, it doesn't mean Hariyamas are in Mossdeep City! Sorry for the confusion. - unsigned comment from UltramanAce3245 (talkcontribs)

That's alright, just glad to clear it up. ^_^ Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:30, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Pokken Pages

Thanks for the advice! If I find some free time soon, I might start up those pages but we'll see. As for your question about the arenas, the only thing different about them other than scenery is shape and size (which can actually have a large impact on the fighting itself). I actually just got the game yesterday so I haven't even unlocked them all yet, haha. The way I see it, either there could be a page for each arena, or just an "Arena" page that lists them out and describes them briefly. Either way, I do think it should be separated from the Pokken page at some point. Swiftgallade46 (talk) 06:49, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

And if it'll get split, someone has to start it. =P Someone else could do it tomorrow, perfectly! But we can't really bet on that. If everyone waits, nothing will ever get done! If you decide to start something on a userpage, feel free to make whatever choice you want, an individual arena or a list; we can see what happens. ^_^ Tiddlywinks (talk) 07:08, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
After getting some more information, it might be best to start out trying a list. Just make a section for each arena, with a basic, overall description I guess (and/or whatever you can think of that you think is notable), and then I suppose the bulk of the section would be taken up by background Pokemon. (If you don't see this before you start a page, though, and you make an individual arena page, no biggie, we can still see what's what and then maybe try starting a list.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:06, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

So what IS an acceptable source? And can you prove it has Flame Body?

Smogon also states Flame Body. Can you prove which is the correct ability? Unowninator (talk) 02:48, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Smogon's alright.
It's weird, I tried looking back, and I can't find any good reason it was added. We said Flame Body in Gen V. Then all of a sudden a "note" is added for Flash Fire recently. Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:33, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Re: Japanese names

Korean Ending,, Google Translate. --DarkPikaDex123 (talk) 23:31, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Miscrediting of anime animation directors

Hi, I noticed that the anime episode infoboxes have credited some people wrongly as animation directors (作画監督) when they should have been assistant animation directors (作画監督補佐). I have corrected one such case, but it seems that this may be more common than I think. For example:

  • XY002: 田島瑞穂, 松田真路 and one more person not in the infobox are actually credited as assistant animation director in the anime
  • XY003: 堤舞 and 松永香苗 are actually credited as assistant animation director in the anime
  • XY009: 岩根雅明 is actually credited as assistant animation director

I looked around and saw one example in DP063 (comparing against Anime_staff_by_episode_(DP061-DP070)#DP063), which does not have this problem, but then again, this is from a previous series, so I am not sure if it is some guideline/policy introduced with the XY series and want to clarify what the correct way should be, before I go about correcting the other articles. Chenzw (talk) 12:58, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

There is another problem when the episode credits the executive animation director (総作画監督) and assistant executive animation directors (総作画監督補佐). The credits screen places these staff on a higher position than animation directors (作画監督), but it is not necessarily reflected in the episode's infobox, where they are all credited as animation directors (作画監督):
Example in XY106: 志村泉 and 松永香苗, who served as assistant executive animation directors in that episode, not only are miscredited in the infobox, but are also placed below 岩根雅明 in the infobox. Chenzw (talk) 14:59, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
There is currently no particular policy regarding your question. Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
The verdict is that only those credited as a plain animation director should be listed as such in the infobox. Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for the clarification! Chenzw (talk) 03:27, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
I ran into another edge case on SS026: there is no animation director listed in the credits, but 総作画監督 is listed (although this is translated to "executive animation director" on Bulbapedia, now I am not sure if the translation is fully correct; the "総" taken in context, could mean either "lead", or "chief"). How should the episode infobox be filled in, in this case? I have added the executive animation directors to the infobox for now. Chenzw (talk) 08:10, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
That sounds fine to me (if there's no position X in the credits, then the next highest position is appropriate/acceptable), but I'll have to double-check with others to be sure. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:54, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, it's fine. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:19, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

"Not unique = not notable"

You say that a lot, but I'd like to mention a few things:


Noibat and its evolution Noivern are the only dual Flying-type Pokémon to have Flying as their primary type.


No other Pokémon has the same type combination as Aegislash and its evolutionary relatives.


This episode marks one of the extremely rare instances that Ash ever intentionally hurts a Pokémon, as he kicks J's Drapion in the face in order to escape from its claws.

I could name more examples, but I just want to ask, why are these considered special exceptions? Just out of curiosity. Unowninator (talk) 16:49, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Unique to, at most, a single Pokemon family.
I hardly know the anime, certainly not enough to have any real idea about Ash's habit or lack thereof of abusing Pokemon. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:56, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Well then why isn't the anime thing notable for Porygon2 and Porygon-Z? Unowninator (talk) 16:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
I have no idea what "anime" thing there was for Porygon2/Porygon-Z. There was a Melee thing and there was a TCG thing. (And "not unique = not notable" was only referring to the latter.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:04, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Oops, I meant to say voice, not anime. Unowninator (talk) 17:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
That wasn't at all about being unique or not. Like I said in the edit summary, the point was contradictory. We can't keep something contradictory on the page, and since it contradicted itself I wasn't sure what the point was really supposed to be, so all that was left was pretty much to remove it. If the intended point can be expressed without being contradictory, then it may be possible to judge if it's actually notable. (If you want to try to do that, I'd ask you to do it here in case there are any further questions, just so it doesn't spark multiple edits on that page.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Strange, I don't recall Z having a voice at all. Maybe I should just return the fact to what it originally was? Unowninator (talk) 17:30, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
* Porygon2 is the only one in its evolutionary family to not receive an audible voice despite having a role in Super Smash Bros. Melee, where Pokémon have recorded voices. This also makes it the only one of the first 493 not to have a voice.
I'm actually wondering, why does Melee need to be mentioned? Were there other Pokemon who didn't have "audible voices" before Melee who received them in Melee? For that matter, is the whole point only supposed to be talking about Melee? Are there even 493 Pokemon in Melee—especially with "voices"? If it's not just about Melee, then is an "audible voice" or "voice" different from a cry? Because I know Porygon2 has a cry—makes a sound—in Gen III and IV at least. The more I think about it, the more I have to wonder if it's not just a bad point, period... Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:47, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for not indenting, but it's starting to get cluttered IMO. Anyway, you do understand that a cry and a voice are 2 different things, right? Like how Pikachu uses a voice actor in the anime, but in the games makes a weird noise (cry)? BTW, [[6]] Porygon2 is at 2:42ish. 19:42, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

I see no reason I should have realized that a "voice" is not a "cry". The trivia point is pretty damn confusing if you ask me.
Porygon2 is the only one in its evolutionary family to not receive an audible voice despite having a role in Super Smash Bros. Melee, where Pokémon have recorded voices. What does this mean? Does this mean, all Pokemon that appear in Melee except Porygon2 have a "voice"? Does it mean something else?
This also makes it the only one of the first 493 not to have a voice. What does this mean? Does this mean, in Melee, the first 493 Pokemon all appear somewhere, and all but Porygon2 have a "voice"? Does it mean, in some core series game, 492 of the first 493 Pokemon have a "voice"? If the latter: which game(s)?
I have more questions, but let's try to answer these first. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Forget the core Pokemon games. As to your questions:
  • Let's just change it to "Porygon2 is the only one in its evolutionary family to not receive an audible voice, period."
  • ... It means Porygon2 never had a human voice actor in any of the franchise, really, whether it be in the anime or a spin-off game.
  • What was the 3rd question again?
Unowninator (talk) 20:32, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Not notable: too small a group.
After looking back through the page's history, I was able to find where the point was originally added and the intent becomes clearer, and that too was actually unnotable for the same reason.
The addition of the latter part is also much clearer and is a bit like what you say above. That part is maybe notable... I just don't know if there's any Pokemon beyond the first 493 who doesn't have a "voice". If it's not unique, it's not notable. "Porygon2 is the only Pokémon that has never been voiced by a human voice actor" would be good (and clear) trivia, if it's true. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:40, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

So just out of curiosity, why doesn't this rule apply to the anime? I see it a lot (ex: this happens again in over say, 500 episodes later) Unowninator (talk) 01:15, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

First off: I don't really know the anime.
That said: 500 episodes is pretty long. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:17, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Mind if I chime in here, since that point came up in a potential trivia point before XY116 aired? As Tiddlywinks said, 500 epsidoes is a long time, and according to ForceFire droughts are notable. Not something I personally agree with, but it seems to be the accepted norm for the anime at this point. ChE clarinetist (talk) 01:23, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Well, 718+ Pokemon's a large number. So why does it only have to apply to 1 for it to be trivia as opposed to just 2 or 4? Unowninator (talk) 01:50, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
As far as I'm concerned, if you want to argue about the games, we (you and I) can argue about the games. But if you want to argue about the anime, or use the anime to argue about the games, you should find someone more familiar with the anime for that. I can parrot and postulate, but I don't have any real "feel" for the anime. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Very well. I was just asking out of curiosity anyway. Unowninator (talk) 02:07, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Ice cannot be frozen in any gen
pokeruby has not yet the info, but if you REALLY want to, I can disassemble the relevant part in Gen 3 real quick.
I'll make sure to use more meaningful summaries in the future, but you'll have to excuse me for being slightly -annoyed- at having to ask people to not believe Bulbapedia for any old gen related information if the article has not been updated recently, then having people revert my edits because my summaries are "not gonna cut it", while edits like the following one pose no problem, and worse they cause wrong information to be on the wiki for more than a year, and cause a lot of people to take it for true, thus I had ONCE AGAIN to expain to people that NO, they aren't going to freeze my Jynx with Ice Beam, despite whatever is written on Bulbapedia, and that NO the implementation on PS is not wrong.
The wrong info was added by SnorlaxMonster, on December 30th 2014, with the reason "Not sure if Ice types can be frozen by Ice-type moves in Gen II and III". Now that's a completely valid reason to make that edit and to add wrong informations, right ?
So, yeah, I'm a bit pissed right now. If my edit has a bad summary, the edit was still done, and the first thing you should have done is looking at my contributions to conclude that I'm "not just confused or something", but that this info was removed because it was incorrect (or at the very least not on a whim), so you wouldn't have to undo my edit. Also don't mark the undo as a minor edit. If the "Hide minor edits" is active in a user's watchlist, he won't be able to see it. Then you could have sent me a message on my talk page to ask the reason of the edit, and tell me to write meaningful summaries. Much better than restoring wrong info on an article, one of the too many that still has incorrect info about old gens that old gen players are trying to correct. --Froggy25 (talk) 15:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

It's totally understandable if you're annoyed. But don't place the blame on me.
I do actually know you from your past contributions—but the other day I sure as hell didn't know you from Adam, and some unknown going "Huh?" just screams "I'M ASSUMING!" Sure, there's various things I could have checked. But you sure as hell didn't look very trustworthy, and I sure as hell can't always do everything I might want to, so no, I really don't think any particular blame is on me for reverting you. If you want to avoid similar confusion in the future, you know how. I don't claim to be perfect, but something other than "Huh?" can only help.
In all hope of goodwill, I do look forward to your further contributions. Like I said, I've seen you contribute good things. Just try not to take things too personally and address any confusion with all due civility. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:27, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

"Cite" template from Zelda Wiki

I saw that Zelda wiki uses Citations as references for sources as to where does certain information comes from. Example

I was wondering if we could implement that. I would love to do that. MannedTooth (Talk) 19:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't think there's much need for something like that. And perhaps you really think it'd be good for us...but the way you've said it here, you just sound like you're on a similar track as some of the other things you've wanted to do before and that's your primary concern—and such a big change isn't likely to happen just to make one person happy. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:55, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
I was just wondering. MannedTooth (Talk) 21:01, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I got a dumb question about the code of conduct... :P

Considering what it basically means, would actually using the phrase "WTF" actually be a violation of the code of conduct? Like I said, it is a kinda dumb question, I guess, but I just started to wonder about that. :P Thank you for your time. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 22:19, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Bulbapedia:Code of conduct#What that means. It doesn't have to be a bad thing. (I might think, in the majority of situations it might be used, it wouldn't be too bad.) The goal isn't really to avoid "curse words", it's just like it says on the tin: Be nice. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:25, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! ^_^ ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 17:55, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

About Recruitable Pokémon in Dungeon

Hey Tiddlywinks! I noticed your recent edit about the "Recruitable Pokémon" section in Super Mystery Dungeon, and I just thought I'll bring up some discussion into this.

Regrading its notability, I think it is kinda notable since the Pokémon are recruited at different levels and importantly they can come with special moves (e.g. one of the Unown). But if the page was to have all the Pokémon listed as it is now, the page would probably become way to huge. In my opinion, I prefer the table format as it is in Connection Orb, and I think adding the moves/levels into that table would probably be the most logical since it is relevant to Connecting; but the table will become even larger than it is right now (which is already big!). --Wowy(토크) 04:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! That is a thought, putting it on Connection Orb where all the Pokemon are already listed. I've had a few questions I've remained unsure about, though, maybe you could help me out just so I can be sure?
From what I've gathered, "connecting" in the Connection Orb is basically the new recruiting, right? And you can't (ever) recruit Pokemon by beating them in dungeons like in the past games, is that right? Also, anyone you connect with in the Connection Orb will be recruitable when you go on an expedition (give or take any who are on a "break")?
I'm actually thinking SMD needs a bit of a rethink overall, re:connections/recruiting...
As far as I can tell, this connection stuff is basically equivalent to availability for SMD (like Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#In side games)... I'm thinking the table on Connection Orb only really needs the first four columns, and we should put the info about how to meet and/or connect with a Pokemon on its species page. I also think we should add something like a "Connections" section to all the location pages listing what Pokemon you can connect with there (and how), and maybe what Pokemon you can just meet (basically like the "Pokemon" sections of core series locations; it could even be called "Pokemon" maybe). On a dungeon page, it could say what mission (that can be done at that dungeon) can be completed to connect with a Pokemon, and it could say if any Pokemon can show up as traveling/fainted/fleeing Pokemon. And for Serene Village, it could say how you can talk to Azumarill in Café Connection (though I don't know how random Café Connections are...). I think this would be more appropriate and about as useful as trying to cram all that info into the same page on Connection Orb (which we really don't generally do).
I have thoughts of mocking up a few pages (and templates) to demonstrate the idea. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:39, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Firstly, yes, "connecting" in the Connection Orb is basically the new recruiting. And yes, you can't (ever) recruit Pokemon by beating them in dungeons like in the past games. Not sure what you mean by your 3rd question but you can use any members you have connected with on a mission. I'm only very early in the game though...
And I think all your ideas sound great and practical! :)--Wowy(토크) 04:51, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I hate the idea of asking something burdensome of you, but it'd be great if you could keep track of what missions are at what dungeons as you play, and what Pokemon connect after completing them (since most of that isn't even filled in on Connection Orb table). When there's still whole dungeons without pages, I don't hold out a lot of hope that there'll be people jumping at the opportunity to fill out connection details if we add such sections. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:03, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Sure thing! I was already sort of keeping track, but as you can tell I'll be going pretty slowly because of other commitments. But better late and never. --Wowy(토크) 05:06, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that's totally fine! I may put some time into browsing some playthrough videos for that sort of data too, but I kind of expect it'll be hard to get complete data for some/many places by that. It'll be good if there's someone who can keep better track. ^_^ Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:29, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Non-significant "error" on XY114

Hi, I wonder if you could take some time to take a look at Talk:XY115? I don't think this error that was added into the article is really what we can consider an "error", but more of a technical limitation due to resolution. I removed one part that was obviously false, but the rest of the statement doesn't seem right, too. Chenzw (talk) 08:59, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't know whether it should be called a techinical limitation or what, but I kind of agree with you: it's just too far away for me to personally care about calling any of those things "errors". However, I'm really not very familiar with the anime or anything, so it would probably be best if you asked someone who is about this. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:55, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Right, thank you! Chenzw (talk) 17:22, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Web accessibility


Have you ever heard of web accessibility ? If not, I recommend you to read this and, especially, that.

By undoing some of my changes, I think you are not very nice to impaired persons. Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 17:01, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

I essentially reverted it because it's just not how we've done any table here (AFAIK). I will bring up the considerations you suggest with other staff members. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

That error you undid.

Basically, Meowth is apparently a wild Pokemon, because in other episodes (like where he's supposedly fired from Team Rocket), he's been hit with a Pokeball and sucked inside, although it breaks out. But in that episode, it doesn't. You see what I'm saying?

PS: How am I supposed to know if it's a redirect? I can't tell it apart from the real one. Unowninator (talk) 23:43, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

The Poke Ball was originally thrown at Kabutops and then deflected/rejected. As far as I'm concerned, that means it doesn't have to "activate" when it hits Meowth. If there's any particular reason to think otherwise, please let me know.
Visit both of these links: Pokeball and Poké Ball. If you compare them both, you can easily see the difference. Specifically, look right under the article title. It says. If you just follow the links you're making, you can easily check if it's a redirect. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:55, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


Hey Tiddlywinks. Just wanted to note a few things before you make any changes to SMD related pages. I was comparing my missions with youtube videos, and I noticed a few differences.

  • The location of the mission can differ (e.g. Ralts mission [7] vs. [8]). I think the locations may be fixed to certain limited locations since mine was the same as one of them, and not all locations are open at the start. This means that the idea of putting which Pokemon can be connected with on specific location pages might not work.

However, things that do appear fixed:

  • The type of mission
  • The reward after a mission (I don't know if you want to include this info to wherever the mission info will be moved to)
  • The difficulty of the mission (I don't know if you want to include this info somewhere too)

Also what do you mean by "set 3 contains 809 Pokémon" on the Connection Orb page?--Wowy(토크) 00:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for finding that and letting me know! If you might be up for experimenting, maybe you could see if there's any way to soft-reset and change where a Pokemon's mission is set. (Maybe you have to soft-reset to before their mission-posting requirement has been met.) It'd be really interesting to know how many locations most missions are limited to (especially if all the dungeons have been unlocked), just a few or a lot (or any) or what? If it's a lot, it may indeed be less useful to try to list a dungeon's missions...
I took 809 from a quick look at a number I already had from a step in my process, not realizing that it was actually something like the total number of Pokemon in the first two rows of the table, instead of just the number of individual rows/"nodes". I completely spaced on how big the number I was writing actually was. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:14, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

How was that too specific? (Pikachu)

Pikachu is the only Pokémon to have 2 of its base stats increased in Generation VI. Specifically, its Defense and Sp. Def

If it's the last part, why didn't you just delete it? Unowninator (talk) 21:17, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I was thinking...stuff? I've re-added and reworded it. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:31, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. One more thing, over here on the ability page [9]. Please tell me you I'm misunderstanding that last part. >_> Unowninator (talk) 22:52, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
What? (I don't understand.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:15, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 (and no one else "matters")
(Sorry for not indenting; I can't seem to do it with the box) Unowninator (talk) 23:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
That doesn't tell me what you're misunderstanding...
If some random site says they were variations or something, that's completely irrelevant to our page. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
I was interpreting it as you meant nobody matters except you. And I didn't get the info from any site or anywhere else; I've noticed the connection years ago; I only said it was removed for consistency purposes. Unowninator (talk) 23:35, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
I wrote "us"...
Overcoat wasn't removed. No one removed anything. That table didn't exist until you put it there, just as it appears now (without Overcoat). Even if it had been removed at some point, saying it was "removed" wouldn't be the way to note it. (No one cares. We only describe the end result, not someone saying, "Hey, this needed to be removed.") Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:50, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
My apologies; I just assumed from move variations (like Blizzard) that it was the same type of thing. Unowninator (talk) 23:58, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
It is. But if you saw an example on move variations, it would have been much less confusing if you had copied that example better. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:01, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't know why I didn't mention it sooner. Sorry I bothered you. Unowninator (talk) 00:06, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Re:Bewitching Tunnel

The latter. It was not acceptable? S U O M I (talk) 12:32, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, generally, our convention is that a page starts with its official English name, but if we only know the official Japanese name, then we only include the Japanese parts at the beginning. (For example, see M19, which has not been released outside of Japan yet.) It may be more convenient sometimes to use the translation/unofficial name in the text afterwards (and for the page title), but it's intended that someone eventually figure out the official English name, and putting the unofficial name there just confuses that.
Also, for future reference, please try to keep conversations in one place rather than moving back and forth between different talk pages. Thanks. =) Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Need your help with something

A little trick I've been noticing on X and Y is that if in one of the areas where one of the "electric mice" (Pikuchu, Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, Emolga, and Dedenne) appears and if one of them (or Pichu or Raichu) is at the front of your party then they appear in a battle more often (I've did a recent check and found they kept appearing most of the time when Raichu was at the front of my party, in fact it helped me make it easier to get a Light Ball from Pikachu). I need a second opinion on this, and how to best approach this situation, as I don't know if this was intended or a simple game glitch (nor will I resort to speculation). -Tyler53841 (talk) 05:51, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Have you tested it thoroughly with all of the "electric mice"? It sounds like it's just Static, but Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, and Dedenne don't have Static. If this doesn't actually work with them, then yeah, it's probably Static, but otherwise, you'd want to test other things. Like can they draw any Electric-type, or just fellow mice? Can any Electric-type draw the mice/Electric-types? And it's always nice if you can give some hard numbers too. Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:15, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Yup, Static. But anyway have a nice day. -Tyler53841 (talk) 13:50, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

FireRed and LeafGreen page

When you have a chance could you go over the FireRed and LeafGreen and make any relevant changes to improve its quality. While it may have been the banned user SatoMew2 that originally posted the cleanup tags, I think if someone can improve quality then it can warrant the need to remove those tags and since you are better at sentence structure than I am, I think you can do a better a job when you have the time seeing how we both worked on Omega and Alpha Sapphire's page and you did a good job of improving quality (to which I won't complain as I understand your reasons). -Tyler53841 (talk) 05:04, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I've taken a look at it. I'm trying to focus on other things for a bit, but I'll try to get back to it. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:51, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Good luck with your other work, and remember as I said above it's no rush in dealing with the changes, since you can do it when you ready. -Tyler53841 (talk) 16:56, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

EXP yield changes in Gen VI

I thought you might want to know about this because you are working on a modified version of the infobox template in your userspace: there are some Pokémon who have had their experience yields adjusted again in Gen VI. Examples of some species which I have discovered so far are: Pikachu, Raichu, Nidoking, Nidoqueen. The current version of the infobox template only allows for "splitting" of these values between Gen 1-3, Gen 4, and Gen 5. Please consider highlighting this issue further upwards. Chenzw (talk) 14:16, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

From what I've gathered, you have some experience with 3DS/ROM modding or somesuch. If you would be able to dump various stats for Pokemon from the Gen VI games and link me the output somewhere (like just some file sharing site, or pastebin), I'd be happy to process the info and consider your suggestion.
If you can dump all sorts of base stats and such beyond just the experience yield (like catch rate, base friendship, exp growth, egg groups, egg cycles, gender ratio, species, color, body type, base exp, EVs, type, height/weight, base stats), that'd be neat too. I ask just because, personally, I'd like to be able to verify the data on our pages if the need arises. I don't know if you'd know where all of those bits of data are, but any you could dump would be great. =) Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:51, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi, here's the dump. All of this would not have been possible were it not for the efforts of Kaphotics and those folks at Project Pokemon, so a lot of the credit really goes to them - I only made some modifications to allow for a more complete dump.
Some notes about the output:
  • Gender ratio corresponds to the table on Personality value
  • Height/weight are in metric units
I can't find the location for the body type data; for Species (I assume you meant that bit about whether it is a Fox/Mouse/<whatever> Pokemon?), this text is stored somewhere else in the game data, and I will put up another separate dump later tomorrow. Chenzw (talk) 17:32, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Cool, thanks! I'll digest that in a while. And I guess Species is probably straightforwardly in the text dumps which have been floating around for long enough already, actually. I kind of just threw out (almost) everything I could think of. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:51, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Your revert on Captivate (move)

I removed that part because it was already addressed in the second statement: "It will fail if the target has the Ability Oblivious, is the same gender as the user, or either or both Pokémon are genderless." Please reconsider your revert. Chenzw (talk) 16:19, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

It certainly should not be reverted. Even if the next sentence says that it fails if they're opposite genders, that's simply "too late"; mention of such a core requirement should not be deferred like that. On Attract, we certainly wouldn't say that it causes the target to become infatuated, period, and for Synchronoise, we wouldn't say that it damages all adjacent Pokemon, period; and then only in the following sentence mention that, oh, by the way, it doesn't work on [these] Pokemon... That's just not appropriate for these sorts of moves.
As the section stands, it's hardly terrible; the second sentence is simply listing all the cases where it fails. However, if it's really such a problem for you, what you could do is remove the mention in the second sentence. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:35, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

The nightmare trivia

Why did you remove the trivia at The Nightmare? I do understand that it's already made clear that the Pokémon mentioned in that point is already in the Pokémon encountered section, but what is not clear is that they're connected to happiness. So that's why I think the trivia should stay, so once again why was it removed? --Raltseye 07:59, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

In general, I think the point was leaning a bit more subjective than not, and I think it's easy enough to look at the table and just see, "Yeah...most of those don't look very scary." Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:53, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

About the Item template

Hey, I was wondering about the Item template, I've noticed when I was previewing my edit on the Seed page, I noticed that the |sprite3=Seed VI was not working. So it made me realize that the Item template is missing a {{#if:{{{sprite2|}}}|{{{{#if:{{{mdex|}}}|Md}}bag|{{{sprite3|{{{name|Cancel}}} code or something like that. I'm terrible with programming, but like I said earlier, I am willing to learn. Also, I have many models of items that I can upload, if everyone is okay with that. Is it okay if I upload the models of items from Gates to Infinity and Super Mystery Dungeon? —Platinum Lucario (talk) 22:02, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't know if we necessarily want lots of sprites in the item templates.
You've already gotten permission to upload captured 3DS images. If you have any further questions about uploading, you may want to ask someone who's specifically on the Archives staff. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:15, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Alola/Melemele Pokédex

I noticed you removed my reference to the Melemele Pokédex with the comment "Please, do not assume. It's only been shown in Japanese." Since when are we not allowed to include Japanese names for things that don't have confirmed English names? Unless you're taking issue with me romanizing メレメレ as Melemele, in which case you should know that "melemele" is Hawaiian for yellow. Given that the region is based on Hawaii, "assuming" that メレメレ refers to the Hawaiian word "melemele" is just as reasonable as "assuming" that the パルレ in Pokémon Amie's Japanese name refers to the French word "parler". If you really want to be anal about it by all means keep it as "Meremere" for the time being, but I see no reason not to include it just because it's not the English name.--Siobonbon (talk) 07:59, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

First off, please do understand that we do not wish to present (romanized) Japanese names in a way that people might mistake them as official English names for things. In the past, that may have been kind of necessary in our coverage of the core games, since the English might not be fully revealed when the Japanese games were already out; but the core games are currently being released/introduced simultaneously worldwide, so that's not really a problem anymore.
Otherwise... I kind of took the simplest approach at the time. I feel that waiting isn't so terrible a thing. (Sure, Melemele/Yellow seems pretty reasonable...but there's always that niggling fear of an alternative you didn't see, especially at this point in the "game".) But on your insistence, I'll take the middling option. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Trainer's Choice

I will acknowledge that much of what I wrote was unnecessary for a concise summation. But I would like to know by what reasoning anything I put down was 'outright wrong.' --The Dreamer (talk) 16:35, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

For AG052: Incorrect; while Torkoal's Fire-Type makes him strong against the Grass-Type Shiftry, Taillow's Flying-Type is both strong against and resists Grass. The thing is, Fire also resists Grass. Taillow isn't special in that. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:41, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Ah, an oversight on my part. Thank you for the clarification. --The Dreamer (talk) 16:42, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

I just don't understand

Why is it that they tell me to add noteworthy facts, which I did for Bibarel and Combee, and then have it reverted. I don't get it!Theexploringgamer (talk) 19:53, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

The trivia here is a bit strict compared to ssbwiki, IMO. From experience here (by which, I mean screw-ups), I can tell you one thing: if it applies to more than 1 Pokemon, it's not considered trivia, unless one evolves into the other. Unowninator (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I don't really know what to tell you either, Theexploringgamer. It's just a general rule of thumb in our trivia is that a thing should either be unique to a single Pokemon or to a single family. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Movesets of CPU-controlled trainer Pokemon

Usually, the movesets of Pokemon in trainer encounters are undefined; the game looks at the Pokemon's current level (which is programmed into the trainer encounter data), then "generates" a moveset on the fly corresponding to the last 4 level-up moves that the Pokemon would theoretically learn. Trainer battles with explicitly defined movesets seldomly come by, and seems to be mostly limited to characters relevant to the storyline.

However, there's this Ace Trainer at Kiloude City which has a custom moveset for his Pokemon. Would it be alright to use {{Party/Single}} for him? Chenzw (talk) 15:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

No...I don't think so. He's a one-time battle, and only in one game (pair). He's not really notable and that's what the template is generally meant for. If you'd like, you could leave the moveset in HTML comments by his team perhaps. We have considered a bit the possibility of adding movesets to the Trainer list template, so it may get used. And if'd still be there for other people to find? Actually, at that thought, it might be more visible on the city's talk page. (Feel free to do either, or both.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:25, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I will add it to the talk page, then. Looks like Anton is a one-off exception (at least for Gen VI), probably because he somehow decided to use Weezing and its 4 most recent level-up moves at level 65 are... not that stellar. Chenzw (talk) 15:35, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Plenty of generic Ace Trainers/Veterans have custom movesets in my experience starting in Gen III and IV, as well as almost every trainer in the console side-games. Every trainer with Smeargle in X/Y also has a custom moveset for it. The trainers in Terminus Cave/Victory Road had a bunch of them from what I remember. Sky Battles too, I believe. It's still debatable if it's notable, but it's not really all that rare. VioletPumpkin (talk) 16:17, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Oops, I completely forgot about all those! I guess it's due to the way the movesets are generated; some Pokemon do not have good level-up movesets for battle at higher levels, too. Perhaps the next pair of games will do something else regarding this. Chenzw (talk) 16:23, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Pokemaster97's vandal is back.

Goes by the name GogglesTheTotodile . I was told this is how I report someone. Unowninator (talk) 16:55, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

There is not strong reason to suspect that user of being a sock or anything at this point. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
My apologies; I just assumed based on the message similarity. Unowninator (talk) 17:02, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Secret Base Representative Trainer Class

The information is necessary because it's incorrect otherwise. I spent a good 2 hours trying to get trainer representation to be correct for my program to only find out it takes the first byte and the information on the wiki was incorrect. Modulo 256 will sometimes give a different last digit than just the plain Trainer ID. - unsigned comment from Trigger death (talkcontribs)

You're absolutely right, that's totally my bad. I tried to think if it made a difference and just didn't think in binary right. Sorry. Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:44, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
No worries. :) And good idea with linking modulo for people who don't know what that means. Trigger death (talk) 20:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Why not just delete the dead ref?

Referring to this. Why not just delete it? Or replace it with [citation needed]? Just curious. Unowninator (talk) 05:13, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Because (AFAIK) it was a valid reference. Removing that makes it unsourced and liable to be removed by someone (and even "citation needed" kind of implies the claim was never backed up), and I don't think that's really appropriate if it was valid before.
I don't think this is a "good" solution. In point of fact, I don't know a good solution. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:50, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
I see. I did google the link in hopes for an archive somewhere, but said page was literally the only result. I'm sorry that I can't help. Unowninator (talk) 06:24, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Actually, what about an {{outdated}} template? Just explain that the link is dead. Unowninator (talk) 06:26, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
That's not what it's really meant for, and it seems like overkill for a piece of trivia. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:11, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Birth of Mewtwo link

I'm really sorry. I just wanted Bulbapedia to have a copy of at least the script. I couldn't find a decent-looking website that had an english text translation, so I took to YouTube. Which was probably my big mistake. Ericbazinga (talk) 20:39, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

We don't really need (or possibly want) a whole English translation either. We have plot summaries/synopses for a reason. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:02, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

SMD Update

Hey Tiddlywinks! Just an update on SMD. I tried resetting to find the locations of the missions, and it appears there are multiple, but not infinite, number of locations for the missions. However, I can never be certain whether I've found all the locations just for that one Pokémon, and doing this for ALL of the Pokémon is too big of a task for me. Plus, the locations may change throughout the story. For example, when the player moves to Lively Town, you get to access more areas. So (I think) it is impossible to find all locations, so I suggest removing the location column from the Connection Orb page. On top, my computer is not high tech enough to edit that table without significant lag, so I don't know how I'll edit that table using the data I've gleaned so far.

I was also editing the Seeds article today, but the buy and sell price for Heal Seed in SMD doesn't appear. I don't think I did anything wrong so I'm thinking the table can't support four buy and sell prices at once.

Thanks! --Wowy(토크) 11:18, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

In that case, the thing we may want to be noting for each Pokemon is how you can meet them. That is, note where they can be found in the overworld or whose mission to complete to automatically be connected to them (or both if a Pokemon can be met either way). So then we could basicallly just let people find the Pokemon, and they can just view their own Connection Orb to see where they need to go for that Pokemon's mission. (The only other thing I think might be nice would be noting if there's a requirement before a Pokemon will ask you for a mission--supposing they don't offer immediately after being met, or the day after being met or something. But if it's not that, there could also just be some random element to it. IDK.)
I'll take look at Seeds later on. Tiddlywinks (talk) 11:28, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Oh, if you tell me what the SMD buy/sell price is, I can add it if I fix it or whatever. Tiddlywinks (talk) 11:29, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. How you meet them would come under the "Methods" column right (e.g. Chansey gets connected in connection with Rotom after completing Rotom's mission, or Azumarill gets connected when you talk to it at Cafe Connection)? Also, instead of "location", you can have "rewards" as a column. But I'm not sure how important it is because only a small percent of missions give rewards.--Wowy(토크) 11:38, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Nah, the last three were all supposed to be about connecting, not meeting. The best example for Method is something like Traveling Pokemon; there's still a location, but not exactly a mission.
Maybe we can just have two columns (scrapping the current last three entirely), like "Overworld" and "Acquaintances".
I'm a little curious about cases like Azurill. I wonder if there are any cases where it might, somehow, be possible to meet a Pokemon like that in the overworld or by an acquaintance connection if you skip the auto-connect Pokemon for a while. That would make things a little interesting. Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:22, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Wowy, could you clarify what you mean by multiple locations for the missions? Are you talking about the Connection Orb requests, Traveling Pokemon, overworld, all of them, or some combination, and what exactly varies? Certain requests simply would not work if they weren't in specific dungeons, and there's data (I can elaborate later if needed) that suggests that Traveling Pokemon (and fleeing/fainted) are locked to specific dungeons after a certain point, though the exact floor they appear on may differ. Non-static Overworld Pokemon do get shuffled around each in-game day, though (early-game Serene Village stuff could have some differences, admittedly).
Also, I agree that the everything in the Mission column could fit in the Method one, at the very least. I'm pretty sure that every connection/acquaintance is completely set, and it's not possible to recruit any acquaintance Pokemon separately (and if there was, it would be an oversight and could be noted as such unless more interesting effects happened). I think it could even be reasonable to group Acquaintance Pokemon with the 'main' one to make it more obvious that all of those Pokemon are recruited as a group for doing a specific thing, but it could hurt sortability. VioletPumpkin (talk) 15:55, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
What do you mean about non-static overworld Pokemon exactly? Are there a bunch of Pokemon that can just have random locations? (I'd kind of figured Pokemon in Cafe Connection might have unique circumstances, but otherwise I would mostly expect most Pokemon to be in just one place... Maybe not story characters, I guess?)
Also, do you mean, for instance, that Azurill isn't even present anywhere in the overworld? Or Umbreon or Espeon? Or anyone who's labeled "connection of client" on Connection Orb? Or what? I'd kind of assumed basically everyone would be somewhere... Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:22, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Indeed, there are many Pokemon who are always found in a set location based on which day of the story it is (or section of the epilogue since you don't have to progress the first parts of that storyline immediately). These include the story-relevant characters, but also many other characters of usually minimal importance. In Serene Village/Lively Town, these ones will usually say something that makes sense to the player/partner, or they're having a conversation with another static villager. In the other towns, there are also Pokemon that are always in the same spot. Though, outside of the story-relevant trip to the Air Continent, I think they more or less say the same things.
Then there are other spots, some scattered around the towns, but also in Cafe Connection (these are always the same locations regardless of the 'day'), that have a random Pokemon from a set list. These include Victini, many starters/evolved starters, Roserade/Gallade, Azumarill (this one might be a special case but I'm not sure), and quite a few more. These random Pokemon include some of the ones who give requests through the Connection Orb, and I believe you can accept the request either through talking to them or through the Connection Orb. If these Pokemon don't have a request/connect with you immediately, they will just tell you a one-liner which never changes. Which Pokemon is in each spot changes every day, for the most part (there were some Pokemon who had uncompleted requests who seemed to stick around in the same spot until I finished it). I'm pretty sure there are a decent amount of non-legendary Pokemon that can never appear in this way. For example, the only letter Unown (memory is fuzzy on ? and ! and they're separate from the others in a few ways) that ever appeared for me in this way are the ones who connect directly with you, and they acquaintance-connect many of the other Unown. Additionally, some of the Rotom formes can be found and talked to in this way before you connect with them (as traveling Pokemon), and won't automatically connect with you in the overworld.
I'm not sure if I ever saw Azurill or Espeon, and I'm pretty sure I never saw Umbreon, but my memory is fuzzy on this. It did take me a while to connect with all the Eeveelutions though, and I only ever recruited them through their requests/as acquaintances/traveling Pokemon. Every overworld Pokemon, static or not, that can be connected just through talking to them almost certainly has some sort of trigger that allows them to be open for connection. For many static Pokemon and the various random starters, that trigger is completing the epilogue's story arc, but many others I'm not so sure about. I hope that was able to clarify some things, it's hard to remember many of the minutiae regarding specific Pokemon. VioletPumpkin (talk) 00:24, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
The Rotom forms, you mean even if you talk to them they don't get registered as "met" in the Connection Orb? (If you're not sure, do you know/can you tell me where they are in the overworld?)
Half the reason I only had a place for connection requirements on Connection Orb was because it's what was there beforehand; the other half of the reason is that there's already a fair amount of columns. But "meet" requirements are arguably just as important if not more. (It's also worth noting that this stuff should also be on individual Pokemon pages under Game locations. For now, both meet and connect requirements would be good... That way we can always decide we don't want one or the other.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:45, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
No, they do get met, sorry if that was confusing, and whenever I say connected, I mean they become usable in expeditions, which I think is the main thing that matters. Adding a meet requirements column feels needlessly convoluted, since most Pokemon are 'met' through connections anyway, and the rest are quickly found in towns (maybe a list of the Pokemon in the towns could be helpful). Pokemon that have requests (beyond the first one or two for each group from what I remember) will only give those requests if they're adjacent to a Pokemon you're connected to and the dungeon their request is in is able to be visited. Okay, thinking about it, trying to do this in the current table doesn't feel like it's worth it to me, but if it was possible to make some sort of flowchart designating which missions or conditions you might need to do for each particular Pokemon, it could work out, I suppose. That's still something else for the most part though...
Actually, maybe I'm just misunderstanding? Perhaps a prerequisite column could be okay. For example, you need to reach a certain rank to unlock the dungeon to connect with Articuno, and we would put x Rank in that column. Doing that unlocks the Moltres dungeon, and for Moltres we'd put Articuno in the pre-requisite column there, and so on? VioletPumpkin (talk) 01:51, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
If there's anyone you can't meet by connecting with nearby Pokemon or just by playing through the storyline, who you need to specifically search out and talk to to meet them (who you can skip—even if they're impossible to miss at some point, if you're not absolutely required to talk to them, you could always skip by them and forget...), then they'd probably need a note—somehow—about where to meet them. Maybe it wouldn't be worth it for everyone... (I'm still not totally sure, simply because I'm having to rely on others, I don't have the game to experience things for myself.)
If the Pokemon with random locations for missions at least always have the same mission, then it might be possible to just say "Random" for the location (if there's any apparent limit on that, like "on the Air Continent" or Rank X-dungeon or something, it might be worth including that--but not crucial if even that's a lot of work).
Ideally, a dungeon's rank requirement should simply be on its page so that (as long as the location is fixed and it's not "Random") people can just click on the link to figure out that sort of prerequisite. And Moltres and Articuno are already noted as having a connection. Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:03, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough, I understand where you're coming from at least. The easiest way to test it would probably be to avoid talking to the non-Ghost Rotom forms and seeing if any of them still appear as traveling Pokemon, since they don't have connections with other Pokemon and don't appear as wild Pokemon to my knowledge (encountering a generic wild Pokemon in a dungeon is another way to 'meet' that Pokemon that I forgot about earlier). At least in my limited experience of a single (rather thorough) playthrough, meeting Pokemon only ever seemed to only be completely cosmetic, but if the Rotom forms don't ever show up in dungeons under those circumstances, I agree that it'd be necessary. We can cross that bridge when we get there, though. VioletPumpkin (talk) 05:40, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Oops, didn't see this. Just to answer VioletPumpkin's first question, I was talking specifically about the locations of missions. For a particular mission, there can be several locations where that mission can be held. (For example, Ralts mission [10] vs. [11]). These locations aren't totally random, but finding all possible locations for all missions is too hard. Some missions may have set locations, but I can't be certain of that because I haven't gone far enough to confirm. --Wowy(토크) 23:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


Hi! I have a request which I hope you will be happy to do. For the Connection Orb page, will you be happy to split up the table into the different sets (1,2,3... [ignoring any changes that might be made to the table later per discussion above]) so that they each have a separate edit-able section? It's probably not the most sensible thing to do, but the table is way too laggy for me to edit, and probably for other users too, and I'm wanting to edit it as I go along, rather than doing it all in one huge bunch at the end. Unless you can think of another alternative.

Also while I have a staff member's attention, will you be able to change the template for Mystery Dungeon items so that they show up a 4th buy and sell price? It's locked so I can't edit it. Thanks! :) --Wowy(토크) 10:57, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

First and foremost, you can always update Game locations data on individual Pokemon pages. And I currently think the table should stay as it is/focus on connection (as opposed to meet) requirements, with location noted as "Random" if it's not apparently fixed..
If I have a "big" concern about splitting the table, it's probably that that'd mean 30+ subsections for the tables, which is a bit extreme. (Not terrible, but not so pretty either.)
(Just to check, when you say it's too laggy, do you mean you can't even get a preview? Or that it takes several/many seconds to preview? If it's the latter (which is what happens for me), that shouldn't be a terrible impediment; just concentrate on filling in the table/code, and only worry about preview sparingly.)
I'm not entirely satisfied with just adding a 4th price option... Not with the fact that pretty much every MD game seems to have a different price for some items like the Heal Seed (...will that continue forever?), nor with the fact that all those prices are only disambiguated by cumbersome tooltipped notes. I'll try to shop around for any better ideas for those prices, but I can't really think of much myself, so in the end I may just add the 4th price... Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:04, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
What I mean by lag is that I try writing a few words and it takes a whole minute for those words to appear. But I'm going around that problem now by copying it onto a Word document first, and then pasting it back onto the page. The only flaw I know of doing this is that ' appears as ’ when pasted back, so I'll have to change these manually.
About the item templates, I agree that having 4 price options makes the table look cluttered, but I haven't thought of any other options so far. --Wowy(토크) 07:00, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
I see, I hardly would have imagined a problem like that with mostly just text on a page. =P If you want to solve ' changing to ’ in Word, you could consider using a simpler program like just Notepad or Wordpad. (There might also be some AutoCorrect options under Tools or something that controls that change in Word.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 10:28, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

The cave on this page is incorrect

I am new to this sit and I wanted to help out with a few things. I started to edit things and then you just put them back the way they were. The cave listed in castellia sewers is 100% incorrect. It is not the cave, it is actually the relic passage and the pokemon in the area are listed incorrectly as well in the cave you will find Timburr, Ratatta, Woobat, Onix, and Roggenrola. Somehow the numbers I found for these were incorrect so I was trying to change them to get the correct image to display. If you could help in changing this it would be greatly appreciated. - unsigned comment from Digidoggie18 (talkcontribs)

To be clear, are you saying that the "Available Pokemon" table in this section (the first one, with only 3 Pokemon) is incorrect? And are you saying that you are not finding the Pokemon listed in that table while walking in this area? That, when you walk in that area, you find Pokemon like Roggenrola?
I'm pretty sure our information is correct, especially if you look at our main pages for those locations (Castelia Sewers and Relic Passage). Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:39, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Did you seriously just look at my contributions list and revert all my edits on trivia sections?

Header says it all. sumwun (talk) 21:36, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Great question. If you mean, like, Anything much earlier...and I really don't remember anything that you might be referring to right now. (At that, in the past month, I've apparently only reverted ONE edit of yours (directly).) Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:42, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Okay, just making sure. sumwun (talk) 00:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


I've got an article in my userspace that I want to see in the mainspace. So, what's the procedure? The article seems very much notable (especially in these days), I believe it's decent, the page is not protected or anything, and if we'd not link to wikipedia all the time, it would be linked to in popular places. So, move it, then link to it? Just to be safe, and just to be sure to waste your time once again. :D Nescientist (talk) 07:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for asking! As it happens, mainspacing decisions (and moving and other similar stuff) are generally supposed to be left to staff/the Editorial Board. I'll bring it to the proper attention. You're right, it is very relevant right now, so hopefully we can sort it out. Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:32, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I thought I read something like that before somewhere, but it seems I was also bad at browsing policy pages. Nescientist (talk) 08:42, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Oh, believe me, I understand how it can be easy to miss. =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:45, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Need a second opinion

I was able to get more Mirage Spots later on during one day so I am thinking there might be a 12-hour window before players can get more Mirage Spots for that day on Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. Can you help me confirm this? -Tyler53841 (talk) 13:21, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

First you probably want to see if you can repeat that a few times in a row. Shouldn't be too hard. Try it at about 9 AM (or whatever), then 9 PM, then 9 AM again, then 9 PM again. If it seems to work out each time, then that's interesting... Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
To maybe save you some trouble, connecting to the internet in-game (while StreetPass is enabled?) gives you data that's functionally identical to StreetPass data for the random passerbys that appear automatically (giving you Secret Bases, extra Mirage Spots, etc.) on the PSS. This would occasionally happen in the same day, and it seemed to me like this function was on the same 8 hour StreetPass cooldown that would happen if you were to StreetPass another 3DS/relay. The BuzzNav should update when this happens, just so you know. Apologies if this wasn't what you were talking about. VioletPumpkin (talk) 19:37, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Actually I did, after it happened the first time, I was able to do it again. If you do it early in the morning, and wait until night you can see those numbers on the BuzzNav. I also did find that in addition to the previous mirage spots, the additional Mirage Spots are also seen. I also saw these reset at the beginning of the next day as well. All that needs to be done is pinpoint how many hours it takes for that little trick to happen before it can be posted in the mainspace. If you can do something like this for yourself it will help you understand this better, so I recommended doing the first part of this in the morning as soon as you can. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:52, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the links on "List of glitch Pokemon"

I made them into links so that they would appear on the "wanted pages" list. Are there already articles about those Pokemon? sumwun (talk) 03:58, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

It's a simple description. We don't need any page about ""Egg" with Bulbasaur's model". Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:09, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
But I really want to know what it is. sumwun (talk) 15:04, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Glitch Pokemon are not at all my specialty, but I don't think there's anything notable about the Gen VI "glitch Pokemon" for index 000 or 723. If you want to try to make a userpage about it, please feel free.
In the meantime, the main point is, ""Egg" with Bulbasaur's model" is simply NOT an appropriate name for some glitch Pokemon. Tiddlywinks (talk) 15:48, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Is there a particular reason why the real name isn't on Bublapedia? sumwun (talk) 21:39, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
There is no "real name". Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:41, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Then what is it called when it's forced to exist in the game? sumwun (talk) 22:19, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Like I said, I really don't know about glitches. I'm not the right person to ask about this thing. People somewhere like the Glitch City Laboratories forums probably know more if there's anything to know. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:25, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Then why did you revert my edit? sumwun (talk) 00:26, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Tell you what. If you make a userpage about the 000-index Pokemon, then we can talk some more. Until then, I'm sorry, but this just isn't going anywhere. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:28, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
If I make such a userpage and add a stub template, will it appear on the list of stubs? sumwun (talk) 03:59, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Make it first. Worry about anything else later. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:09, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit to the glitch types page?

If I wasn't supposed to edit the page without reason, for what reason did you revert my edit? sumwun (talk) 03:58, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

For being an inappropriate edit. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:09, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

New Attack: Highhorse Power

Hey, there. Today on, they showed a new attack that Mudsdale used. It is called Highhorse Power and it is a ground-type move. Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 21:03, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, this is almost completely unverifiable at the moment. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:39, 19 July 2016 (UTC)