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Talk:Dark (type)

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The Implication of Dark

I added a little quip in the Characteristics section about other features of the Dark-type, specifically how many of the moves are associated with deception and stealing, earning it the title "Dark." I'm pretty sure Dark is not a reference to Night, even though Eevee involves into Umbreon at night, but I think that was just a way to showcase how Day and Night could be used in Gold/Silver. If anyone disagrees with this, I'm interested in your opinion--MJuice 02:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The Japanese name for the type is Evil, so your observations aren't without support. However, over analyzing too much only adds fuel to the whole 'Pokemon is Satanic' argument.--Dual 04:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Late reply, but it seems rather likely to me that Dark actually refers to both. Darkness and nighttime are often used (both in Western and Eastern cultures, including Japan) as a symbolic reference to evil, especially the former. Several Dark Pokemon such as Murkrow also have a highly prominent connection to the night, be it evolutionary methods or location in the wild. Initially in Gold/Silver, it should be noted that every wild Dark Pokemon could only be found at night. Because of this, it is not necessarily true that the "Dark = Night" conception is a falsehood, so I don't think the night/darkness implications of the Dark type should be regarded as an outright misinterpretation so much as simply being opinionated. I've decided to remove the sentence containing this statement for that reason. Marlowe 18:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

good for you, now maybe you can stop spamming up the recent changes page huh? Happizelpom 15:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Just for the record, that doesn't stop others from seeing it in the recent changes. The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 19:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Moonlight Umbreon:But please,do not think ALL dark pokemon are evil.Umbreon evolves via happiness,Darkrai creates nightmares but wants to stop the battle between Dialga and Palkia,Houndoom saved a Togepi in the anime,and many dark type pokemon look like evil,but aren't. - unsigned comment from Moonlight umbreon (talkcontribs)
No Pokémon are actually malevolent.
I'm not confident about the actual Pokémon but the moveset is definately focussed on a pragmatic approach to fighting: Pulling any trick to win as opposed to the honour of fighting types (who the attacks are weak against.) --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 16:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Special?

Are Dark-type moves really counted as Special-type moves? Even though most Dark-type moves are physical-based? --*Ɣℯⲛօӎօṫհ* 17:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

That's how it is in the Generation III games. TESHIGIGAS 20:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
And Generation II. -Lord Hyren 02:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
At Earl's Pokémon Academy in Pokémon Stadium 2, one of his lectures for beginning Trainers lists the 17 types and clarifies whether moves of that type are based on Attack or Special Attack. That lecture lists Dark as Special. Superbreeder 03:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Why exactly is Dark special? There is only 1 special move. What determines a type as special or physical? Sivart345 (user · talk · contrib) 20:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Because that was decided by the moves type bfore Gen IV and when they added two types two generations earlier, Steel was more clearly physical so they went the other way with Dark to keep things even. When the physical/special split led them to take a closer look at the moves, it was fixed. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 16:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

In the trivia section for Electric (type), it's mentioned that Because Electric's only weakness is to Ground, a pure Electric-type Pokémon with Levitate would have no weaknesses unless Gravity is used or the foe has Mold Breaker. Worth mentioning for Dark/Poison with Levitate? MaskedFalcon 11:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

No, because Dark's weakness is Fighting-type and Poison's weakness is Psychic-type.--Diby 11:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
What I meant was, suppose we had a combination Dark/Poison type with Levitate. Since Dark's Fighting weakness is canceled by Poison's resistance and Poison's Psychic weakness is nullified by Dark's immunity, the Pokémon would have no weaknesses. MaskedFalcon 12:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Language Translation

dont remove or undo anything for enougth confusion pls .....Bakunawa 08:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Zorua and Zoroark

We should add them, seeing as we know that they are pure Dark-type. I already added them to the number of known Dark-types, but not to the list of them. TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 15:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Bite

This page lists Bite as having a 10% chance to flinch, but according to Bite's page it has had a 30% chance to since Gen II, shouldn't this page be changed accordingly? --Oryx 23:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it looks like it is actually Bite's page that is not correct. --Oryx 02:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Bite Most definitely has a 30% flinch rate - I abuse it regularly with a Serene Grace Dusparce. Where did you get the idea that it wasn't? 08:36, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Until Generation IV...

All pure dark types were either felines or canines. Can we add this to trivia?--Burgundy 18:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

pure coincidence Ataro 18:45, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Umbreon and Absol are indeterminate species anyways. It would have been better to say quadrupeds. But yeah. With only four pure Darks at the time, it ain't that notable. --ケンジガール 23:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

All non-legendary pure Dark-type Pokémon are based off of fox, dog, or cat-like creatures. I'm not sure that's notable, seeing as each one is referring to a single evolutionary line (except dog, since Umbreon is fairly dog-like), and how it was dealt with in the section above. Also, it isn't necessarily true. EnosShayremTalk 16:06, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Removed. —darklordtrom 21:40, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

"Officially, this type's Brazilian Portuguese translation is "Noturno" (nocturnal), but at times it is named as "Sombrio" or "Trevas" (darkness) as well. However, Sombrio means Shadow, another type."

Eu sempre percebi isso, por exemplo: Paul: "Honchkrow use a Vibração sombria" (Honchkrow use Vibration Shadow)

I am Brazilian Okay. The text in black is Portuguese

Alysson-A 19:28, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

"Exception"

The article says: "Dark-type Pokémon are notable for the fact that they don't have any strong stat trends other than Attack [...] but usually have relatively poor defenses, with the exception of Umbreon, Spiritomb, Drapion, Scrafty, Mandibuzz and Tyranitar." I think that 6 Pokémon aren't really an exception. I think an exception could have been 1-2 Pokémon, not 6 (they're actually more than 6, counting their pre-evolutions) --SamuStar 14:13, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

Okay, a nice piece of trivia "Officially, this type's Brazilian Portuguese translation is "Noturno" (nocturnal), but at times it is named as "Sombrio" or "Trevas" (darkness) as well." but then "... However, Sombrio means Shadow, another type." -Since when was Shadow a type? Anaserfrdrews12798 16:01, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Since Colosseum.--Den Zen 16:02, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
But aren't Shadow Pokemon a "variety" rather than a specific type? Anaserfrdrews12798
Well it's not so much a type that there are Pokémon in it, but there are Shadow-type moves. It's a similar case with the ???-type. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 16:30, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Oh wait, "They have no type and are noted in the games with a series of dashes in place of a type bar." Alright, so that was my mistake. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 16:32, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
So should that part be altered or removed? You decide, you seem to be some kinda boss around here Anaserfrdrews12798 17:05, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
More of an "interact with the regular users" kind of staff worker. Anyhow, I've altered the trivia so hopefully it's a bit more accurate. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 17:21, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
It's only a type in Pokémon Colosseum and XD. Pressthebutton 13:41, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Dark was not before johto

As the Subeject says The type Dark and Steel type was introduced in Generation II. this content was missing i will also make thin on the Type Steel talk page


--Darkmtbg2 16:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

It's under "Characteristics". Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 17:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

---Then should it be under the first information ? like on Steel?. or reverse --Darkmtbg2?

English names of Gen 6 Pokemon

The english names of Maika, Karamanero, and Goronda have been revealed to be Inkay, Malamar, and Pangoro. We probably need to update that. (O++O) Dralcax (talk) 16:24, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Oblivion Wing

Yveltal's signature move, Oblivion Wing, was confirmed as being a Dark-type move. Can someone who has access to edit this page add Oblivion Wing to the list of moves? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 19:56, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Added. --Pokemaster97 20:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Dark/Psychic

"Meanwhile, if a Pokémon with the types Psychic and Dark WERE to exist, then it would have no resistances while having a double weakness to Bug type and an immunity to Psychic (It would also be the only Pokémon with Bug as a sole weakness)."

This typing currently Exists with Inkay and Malamar - Awesomeness (talk) 23:30, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah,i noticed this too! Can someone please change it? - (Ishlishl (talk) 23:52, 28 August 2013 (UTC))

Gen VI table

Steel no longer resists Dark-type attacks. Same goes for Ghost-type attacks. Berrenta (talk) 01:32, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

"It would also be the only Pokémon with Bug as a sole weakness"

This sentence makes no sense, it should be "They are also be the only two Pokémon with Bug as a sole weakness". Please go fix it because I can't edit the article (despite the fact that protection from all the Type articles should have been lifted after the retconned type chart was revealed). --The Truth aka Relicant 12:10, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

"Additionally, Pokémon that are both Dark-type and Ghost-type have no weaknesses to any moves of any type"

This is no longer true as of the upcoming Generation VI, Sableye and Spiritomb are weak to the new Fairy type. Poke'fan07 (talk) 04:44, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Japanese name translation

I believe that given the kind of Pokémon and moves that are of the Dark type, a more accurate translation of あくタイプ would be "Deviant type" or "Wicked type" instead of "Evil type". あく has multiple meanings due to cultural differences, which means "evil" is not necessarily the correct one. SatoMew 17:35, 6 November 2013 (UTC)