Talk:Primarina (Pokémon)

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• Name Origin
• Origin
• Is this trivia worthy?
• Fully Evolved Alola Starters and Mallow leaked
• About Primarina leaked art
• Opera singer
• Egg Moves
• Female
• Split Proposal

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Name Origin

Prima Donna and marina. Prima Donna is the chief female singer in an opera or opera company. Yamitora1 (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Ballerina as well, thought I put that down, darn nyquil. Yamitora1 (talk) 14:50, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Since I did this for the other two, アシレーヌ or Ashirenu probably comes from ashika (sea lion) and serene or siren (the latter being a clear basis for this Pokemon)

Yeah agreed, definitely derived from Prima Donna (a celebrated female singer) and ballerina and/or sirena (Spanish for mermaid). As a result, it does also contain 'marina', which relates to the sea.Fresco (talk) 15:31, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

I dunno, prima donna does fit, but I get the feeling it's just supposed to be from the word, "prim". It's worth mentioning both. The "marina" part obviously evokes the word marine, as in marine life. Qwertyo76 (talk) 17:43, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

This is just me, but I feel like Primarina's name is more of a portmanteau of "prima ballerina". What do you think? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Origin

Should we mention that it's also inspired selkies? Vienna Waltz (talk) 17:51, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

"Selkies are said to live as seals in the sea but shed their skin to become human on land." Oh. Well yeah, certainly. Qwertyo76 (talk) 17:59, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

You can also add in mermaids or merfolk while your at it. *shrugs* Seems to have some features that resemble those, like its tail. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 18:09, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

^Wow, I didn't even look to see that it was already added...my bad. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 18:10, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Is this trivia worthy?

I don't know if this is really trivia worthy, but is it worth mentioning that Primarina is the first starter Pokémon that's part Fairy-type? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 21:28, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

No. --Carmen★ (Talk | contribs) 21:44, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Fully Evolved Alola Starters and Mallow leaked

Can someone who can edit this page add this to the Trivia section?

• On June 4th, 2016, official confidential art featuring Decidueye, Incineroar, Primarina, and Mallow was leaked on the internet. This leak happened 145 days before the Fully Evolved Alola Starters' official reveal on October 27, 2016.

Here are my sources. http://www.pokecommunity.com/archive/index.php/t-370057.html http://66.media.tumblr.com/0250e03bd66ab9ca99dc62e78ecf5d7b/tumblr_o8adnyxaSF1qhkgqso1_540.jpg

--PKMNAdventurer (talk) 00:08, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

About Primarina leaked art

In the early leaked art Primarina eyes laked the pink sparkle, this was something added later on its design. I tried to add it in the trivia, but an editor undo it saying that "it is not notable and anyone can see it on their own", even when said art is leaked and confidential, and it can be lost or difficult to find eventually. - unsigned comment from Montblanc (talk • contribs)

Very few final Pokémon designs remain the same throughout their design process. Primarina's design being leaked prior to it being finished is notable trivia, but it's more relevant to the leak than to Primarina itself, since it isn't unique in having its design changed throughout the design process. Scribbl 11:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

It's concept art. Primarina's design probably wasn't even fully finalized. The pink sparkle is a really minor thing, so the concept art not having it doesn't really mean much. Also, there are other differences if you compare it to its final artwork, such as the collar being a darker color or it frowning instead of smiling. Ataro (talk) 12:12, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Opera singer

Due to it's previous evolutions resembling performers, Primarina could've taken inspiration from opera singers.Robbie (talk) 17:31, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Egg Moves

I am currently breeding a competitive Primarina in SwSh, and when I started to hatch the eggs, two of the moves that were passed down are Moonblast and Hyper Voice (with the parents being two Primarina). I do not know how to edit the table, so could someone please do it for me and explain how? Thank you! BlueDecoRoller (talk) 00:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Those aren't egg moves. The Popplio hatching with those moves are because both Primarina know those moves. If you removed them from one Primarina, the Popplio won't hatch knowing them. Second bullet point explains this. Kai * the Arc Toraph 01:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Female

Someone who doesn’t know about Pokémon told me it’s female because it looks like a girl. --Feelitstill23 (talk) 00:50, 18 October 2020 (UTC)Feelitstill23

Split Proposal

Due to Primarina's wide array of origin inspirations, the Origin section of Trivia should be split into its own page with segmented sections detailing them. Many of the points of inspiration as currently listed provide minimal detail to fit as a subsection. However, they are subjects that require further detail to understand why they are inspirations for Primarina's origin. This has resulted in this section being multiple stubs back-to-back, providing little info. This can further apply to the rest of Primarina's evolutionary line, and thus may warrant the split being a page on the origins of the evolutionary line as a whole. Katharosa (talk) 00:21, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm not convinced a page on a single Pokémon's design inspiration has enough substantial content to warrant anything other than a lengthy Origin section at most (which I encourage you to expand upon if you wish!). Xan Hutcheon's now-inactive On the Origin of Species column on Bulbanews may be closer to what you're suggesting – and indeed, is linked on several Origin pages – but I don't think a separate page is reasonable unless it has a broader scope than just the origin of Primarina. meeper! ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ 00:38, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

I tried to expand on it. Biblical Bambi just deleted it an hour later without giving any reason as to why-- I figured it was due to some kind of unspoken rule about keeping Trivia sections short, so I started this split proposal thinking it'd be a way to actually write something longer-- Katharosa (talk) 13:16, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Also, thank you for pointing me to that Bulbanews section. It seems the column is written in a narrative fashion that goes on side tangents, and is limited to 31 pokémon species, all written prior to Gen VI. I'd personally like to start writing more in-depth origins in the wiki format, and would be more than happy to convert some of those articles as a proof-of-concept to start making more split sections on pokémon origins. Due to the nature of Bulbanews' formatting, I don't believe wiki-style entries would fit. Katharosa (talk) 13:42, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Have you considered trying to expand the section first before going straight to a split? It's okay for an origin section to be on the longer side if there's enough of interest to say. There isn't currently nearly enough info to consider splitting off to a completely separate page, and frankly I would say I doubt it can be expanded to that degree. Driftin Soul (talk) 00:39, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

It's only one paragraph, and Primarina is relatively straightforward in its design (obviously being some kind of pinniped with performer motifs). While the section could maybe be expanded a little I severely doubt there will be enough content for a seperate article. If any Pokémon could justify a whole article for their potential origins it'd probably be Jynx due to the fierce debates the design has caused but I'm not even sure if that is necessary. Biblical Bambi (talk) 00:49, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

I did. Biblical Bambi reverted it an hour later without giving any reason as to why. And it could be expanded to that degree, there's actually a lot of layers of depth to the design. I would be writing the expanded descriptions myself, if I was allowed. Katharosa (talk) 13:19, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

I see zero reason to split it's origin section. We rarely if ever have Origin sections that go beyond a paragraph at best describing potential inspirations for Pokémon. Frozen Fennec 10:34, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

I understand that they're rarely more than a paragraph, and while that makes sense for a wide array of pokémon, that's not a reason to deny this specific case. I'm proposing this split in the first place because it's one of the rare cases that warrants more than a paragraph. I would simply write multiple paragraphs in this section, but after Biblical Bambi reverting my revisions before, I thought it would just get reverted again. I'm guessing there's like an unspoken rule about keeping the info in the Trivia section short, and I'm fine following that. Hence the reason for proposing the split-- Katharosa (talk) 13:27, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

There's no limit on how large an origin section can be, but it certainly has never been long enough to warrant its own article. Most of the legendary and mythicals are lengthy, Skeledirge is also quite lengthy. I'd also argue that what you added/changed would also not be worthy of splitting off into its own article, the length remained the same after your edit (that, and you got rid of the source confirming its sea lion origin). There's no reason to split off origin sections regardless of how long they get, and they're not meant to be article length anyway, just short and concise.--ForceFire 14:02, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, the source confirming its sea lion origin was added after my edit was removed. (And even then, it's just linking to the leaked development image that had it under the code name "Sea Lion 3", which is used in a prior section.) I kept it short to try and keep in line with the description being short. I'll make a new, longer, more detailed edit, I guess. Here's hoping it doesn't just get deleted again- Katharosa (talk) 14:09, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

aaand it got deleted again. "cleaned up and re-added deleted info" my ass. fts y'all keep your inaccurate info Katharosa (talk) 23:49, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Your edit was just reformatted/reworded. Please be civil, Bulbapedia is a collaborative effort, discussions are bound to happen. — Lakelimbo (talk) 00:37, 25 August 2025 (UTC)