Talk:Levitate (Ability)

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Definition of Levitate in the Anime

I'm bringing this up since Gengar has been seen "levitating" a few times, such as Drake's Gengar, but only Fantina's Gengar is listed (I've not seen the episode with Lunatone, so I can't comment on that). So what is the definition we use? Actually stated as levitating (like Fantina's)? Levitating to avoid Ground-type moves (or any move)? Or, just levitating? XVuvuzela2010X 22:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Status Ground moves

I'm sure the answer is the obvious one, but I still feel like it should be investigated.

Sand Attack does not affect levitating Pokemon, as stated in the article. What about other status Ground moves? Can Rototiller affect Carnivine? Can Mud Sport affect Rotom, Tynamo's line, and Vikavolt (or others who can learn Electric-type moves)? Using hacking (or some drawn out ability-switching and Sketching with a Smeargle), can a Pokemon with Levitate use Shore Up?

The main article already expresses that they are only immune to damaging Ground-type moves, but the trivia point states that the in-game description is only in error about Sand Attack. It would be nice if someone could test this just to be safe so that the trivia point can be worded more accurately. (Alternatively, I just need permission to make a logical assumption.) Nutter Butter (talk) 22:40, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I just noticed that Rototiller is already mentioned. Mud Sport and Shore Up still need tested, though ^.^ Nutter Butter (talk) 22:41, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
I think many status moves are not affected by type immunities. (I'm probably gonna try to see what the default implementation is, and come back here. Same for self-targeting moves; I'm not even certain right now that they perform an accuracy check, even less a check for immunities.)
More importantly, I'd like to probably make you aware of grounded; it's an article that lists common features of Levitaters, Flying types, and some others, and I don't think there's anything about Levitate specifically (other than it's an Ability and all). I've been trying to link to it recently, so that eventually we might even consider to remove all the fluff at articles like this, and just say "it becomes ungrounded" and link there. Nescientist (talk) 10:45, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
I just checked Gen II, and it appears type immunities are only checked for damaging moves, or more specifically, if and only if STAB may be applied (not counting the check for freeze/burn/poison). Also, moves that target oneself apparently do not check for accuracy, but just suceeed. (Metronome and Sleep Talk call another move that may check, of course.) And according to status move, all moves that target oneself, or allies, or the field are "—" anyway.
So, maybe a shoutout: Can anyone name a status move that checks for immunities (other than Thunder Wave, Mean Look etc. that are just consistent with type immunities to statuses)? Because if not, we should add that somewhere (and I mean somewhere that is not just Sand Attack (move)). Nescientist (talk) 12:22, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Sky Drop damaging Pokémon with Levitate

Had this battle in the Battle Agency, and Sky Drop did damage my Levitate Weezing. Not sure who tested and confirmed that Levitate provides damage immmunity (like the Flying type does), but it wouldn't surprise me that Sky Drop still has bugs. Might upload a video later. 8NBW-WWWW-WWWE-TUGU --Johans (talk) 19:46, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Our page on Sky Drop says nothing about being unable to damage Pokemon with Levitate. Additionally, it appears the line on this page has existed since at least well before Gen 7, but after Gen 7 came out someone fact-checked it in Gen 6 and found it false, so they apparently changed the line to "starting in Gen 7" on the assumption that it was true in Gen 7. Given the preponderance of the circumstantial evidence, I'm going to say it seems most likely that this was a mistake in the first place, so I'm removing it altogether. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:27, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
One more note: I've combed the history and managed to track the first mention of Sky Drop to June 2011, when someone added it with no explanation. I think it's likely they just assumed it was the case, and people didn't realize it was a false assumption. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:36, 18 January 2018 (UTC)