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But how do we know if it is day or night? I haven't played gen 3 games that much but i know that the clock we set is an analogue one and not a digital one. PS-I'm sorry for troubling u constantly with my questions.Auraguardian197 14:29, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

It's analogue, but it also says AM or PM on the clock face itself (checked in my game). And don't worry, I don't mind your questions. --SnorlaxMonster 14:38, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about editing the bell tower article. I thought that it was accidently written D,P and Pt. I'm really sorry.Auraguardian197 13:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. It's an incredibly easy mistake to make. --SnorlaxMonster 13:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

?question?

why did you delete these glitches

o Bike music glitch

o Music glitch 2 (Above was an error i pressed submit twice) AWild------Appeared 14:42, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

The cycling music is obviously intended not to be played on bridges; my guess would be that being so long, most people would always cycle along them and so would never hear the location music. I didn't delete the "Music glitch 2", I simply combined it with another glitch that worked on the same principle and called it "Music memory glitch". --SnorlaxMonster 13:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed that right there. But you deleted the Cry glitch which actually should be called a glitch. In case you didn't take it in properly:

Green HP: Healthy cry Orange HP: Dodgy cry Red HP: Healthy cry (o_O)

As you can see, there is a healthy cry in Red HP when it should sound terribly horrible. - unsigned comment from AWild------Appeared (talkcontribs)

Oh, it looks like I didn't read it properly. I've added it back. --SnorlaxMonster 11:33, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll try and find as many more glitches as I can. (I do this with practically every game in the world I like.) - unsigned comment from AWild------Appeared (talkcontribs)

Wanting to tell you, when you click to go to "List of glitch Pokemon in Generation Whatsoever", instead of going to a page of glitch Pokemon, there's just the national Pokedex for that game. - unsigned comment from AWild------Appeared (talkcontribs)
Those aren't National Pokédex lists, those are index number lists. And they include all actual and glitch Pokémon in them, so it is much more efficient to simply link to them than create specific lists of only glitch Pokémon in each generation. --SnorlaxMonster 08:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh. - unsigned comment from AWild------Appeared (talkcontribs)

BW sprites

Not sure when, but some time ago I found this. There is a LOT of BW sprites there, probably all (split in Generations, and then Front, Front shiny, Back and Back shiny). They are gifs, though, but Archives has link to gif-to-png converter. Not sure if this/that could be used, but not many Pokémon have animated version of sprites from BW uploaded on Archives... Marked +-+-+ 13:25, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

The issue is that they are not 90×90; the sprite rippers have cropped them when they ripped them. --SnorlaxMonster 13:31, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Template

I know that it's a minor thing but.. on the link templates page* the code for ash's friends is like this "Link template": {{Ashfr}} but at the "Code" column is: {{ashfr}}. Indeed they do link to the same page, but shouldn't they be the same ? Also, shouldn't {{Bulbapedia:Bots}}* this page be protected along with the link templates page ?----DJWolfy 16:54, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Made it consistent. It's pretty arbitrary whether it is upper or lowercase in articles (whereas I hate to see {{P}}, and will always change it to {{p}}). As for linking to other namespaces, you can link them like any other page, so Bulbapedia:List of link templates (or List of link templates). I've protected Bulbapedia:Bots. --SnorlaxMonster 11:33, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Great! Thanks! But shouldn't the link templates page also be protected ? Afterall, it's the most important to the editing community of BP.----DJWolfy 11:50, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I see. It was only autoconfirmed protected. I just looked at the protection tab and saw "unprotect" and assumed that it was completely protected. --SnorlaxMonster 11:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Why doesn't this page have the "Contents" table ? ----DJWolfy 15:58, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Pages need four sections to have a table of contents. Otherwise Mediwiki decides they are too short to bother with it. Werdnae (talk) 20:36, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Manga

I think that Isamu's page is out of date because I took all appearances from his page. I did the same with all the Pokémon that appeared in the cooking competition.----DJWolfy 13:47, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Wait, I meant I copied the format from Blastoise's manga section and just replaced it with the respective Pokémon so I could save time.----DJWolfy 13:50, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, if the title contains lowercase for words that usually would be uppercase in a title, you should generally be suspicious and check the article. Translated Japanese names should not be used as display text for episodes/movies/specials/shorts/rounds/chapters. --SnorlaxMonster 13:56, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Since that's a gag manga, nothing can surprise me, therefore I didn't thought of this possibility but I'll have them corrected later. Yes I know about using offical names instead of translation, but I thought that was the official name.----DJWolfy 14:00, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Quotes.

Done (replying here since on my talk page I did reply that I didn't finished it). The only thing left that I can think of is the letter you find at his home after beating Elite Four, the one you read to get Beldum. Unsure if I should check it, though. Marked +-+-+ 11:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Wait. Why you erased quotes for Champion battle (RS) and Meteor Falls battle? They should stay. I didn't had them as they were already in article. Marked +-+-+ 11:55, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Movies

Still need the images for the movies in AG086 ?----DJWolfy 17:17, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes. When they actually come on Pokémon.com though, I'll likely end up rewriting the section anyway. --SnorlaxMonster 08:10, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Uhm, actually I thought that I should get the images before the episode aires on the site. Right today ----DJWolfy 12:51, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
If you have the images, put them in. --SnorlaxMonster 12:58, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Problem is, I can take different screenshots of the same movie, I don't know which will fit better.----DJWolfy 13:15, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Just pick one. I know what you mean, but you just have to be decisive. --SnorlaxMonster 13:17, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

How should I name the files ? ----DJWolfy 13:22, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Like my images. "<movie name>.png". --SnorlaxMonster 13:25, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm still missing the Armaldo movie and the Pichu Brother's one. I can't get those two because of the inappropiate placement of the watermak. Almost impossible to remove.----DJWolfy 13:32, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, that's the purpose of the watermark anyway. We'll get the images eventually anyway, so don't worry about it. --SnorlaxMonster 13:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Got 3 of 'em, check the page.

Btw the link templates page has some inconsistencies

  • the links for youtube are "Link template" = Yt and Ytu, while "Code" = yt and ytu
  • the {{Adv}} template should be {{adv}} since it is used more than the former, trust me, everywhere I added manga appearances that's what I saw, plus adv would be better since are not initials rather a short term.----DJWolfy 13:43, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Also, why is there a {{type2}} template since {{type}} does the same thing ?----DJWolfy 13:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Template talk:Type2 Last time I brought it up with DETH, he didn't want to move it due to the name being too long anyway. --SnorlaxMonster 13:55, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Disregard logic, I don't see the point of keeping it that way but whatever... I'll be off in about half an hour so if you could take a look here. Since Ady is busy I don't want to bother him. Untill "Steven Stone" all has been fixed. Thanks SM ! ----DJWolfy 14:04, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Ady's talk page is on my watchlist anyway, so I saw that and intended to get around to it. --SnorlaxMonster 14:05, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

That's great, we're on the same wave-length I see.----DJWolfy 14:06, 16 May 2012 (UTC) I wonder... if they did so much fuss about the {{g}} template because it should only be used in the games, then why no one mentioned that on the link templates page ? I mean, let's be serious, not many people click on the template's talk page.----DJWolfy 16:16, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Template documentation is supposed to go on the talk page. As for the fuss about the template, IMO, it should either be deleted or allowed universally. --SnorlaxMonster 07:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

How about {{motto}}? Shouldn't that be added to the link templates page ?*----DJWolfy 20:32, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I've also noticed an {{E4}} template which is exactly as {{EF}}.----DJWolfy 20:35, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Template:E4 redirects to {{EF}}. I've added {{motto}}. And yes, minor edits count towards TC and TCM. --SnorlaxMonster 10:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Good, how about the capitalization of Contests, Gym match and Gym referee ? Also, what's with the cross ?----DJWolfy 10:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Contest is already on the page, Gym itself is always capitalized, while I don't believe that battle or referee would be (they're not official terms anyway). --SnorlaxMonster 11:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Dennou said that Gym Battle should be, but I asked you about Gym "match", also what's with the cross near some terms ?----DJWolfy 11:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I have no reason to believe that the battle in "Gym Battle" should be capitalized. I don't think it should be. I'm interested in the source for it. The dagger is explained at the start of the article (and will be removed before it leaves my userspace). --SnorlaxMonster 11:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Ok then, still what should I do if I see a capitalized Gym Battle ? ----DJWolfy 11:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Gym Battle -> Gym battle. --SnorlaxMonster 11:31, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for causing confusion, I just erroneously thought that "battle" is always capitalized.--Den Zen 11:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Then you should write it down in the uncapitalized section so everyone will know. Also, have you done something with the Epicode page ? Yeah I know I'm being a bit steadfast but it is important to BP.----DJWolfy 11:39, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't think it is really necessary to put it there. Do you mean did I add Trouble in Big Town? Then yes. --SnorlaxMonster 11:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes I see now, how about updating the digits for movies and PK shorts ? Or wait untill they are released ? Also, could you protect the page ?----DJWolfy 11:51, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Another user already did. You're better off reading the page itself than asking me though. --SnorlaxMonster 11:56, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I see now, I'm rushing too much, well then... protection ?----DJWolfy 11:57, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't think the page really needs protection; if it gets abused, then I'll consider it. --SnorlaxMonster 11:58, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Ok.----DJWolfy 12:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Uhm, Dawn's page pretty much lacks capitalization for Ribbons and Contests. I would do them myself but the page is protected.----DJWolfy 17:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Done. --SnorlaxMonster 08:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, this section should be changed from On hand to Pokémon. Btw, do you got the receive e-mail feature enabled ?----DJWolfy 16:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Done, and yes I do. If a user has the feature disabled/no registered email address, E-mail this user will not appear in the toolbox in that user's userspace. --SnorlaxMonster 13:18, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Great! Thanks ! I've sent you an e-mail btw. Please reply when you have the time.----DJWolfy 17:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

help?

can i just join a project without any conditions like certain number of edits or do i get picked?Auraguardian197 19:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Everyone can join. It even says on the project's page "To join the project, simply add your name to the bottom of this list". Here's a list of Projects----DJWolfy 19:27, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

oh,thank u.Auraguardian197 19:34, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Cheren's age

http://serebii.net/blackwhite/

If you read this it says: The games also have you playing as protagonists older than the previous playable characters. Serebii is always accurate! It may not imply what exact age they are but they are definitely not 10/12! - unsigned comment from Solarbeam96 (talkcontribs)

There is no proof of them being 15/17 either, that's why it was reverted. We need to be accurate. Sign your comments with ~~~~ next time too. Sneaking from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost... Gengarzilla! 16:02, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

There's also no proof of him being 10/12 either. So how is that accurate? --- - unsigned comment from Solarbeam96 (talkcontribs)

We rely on using official sources, rather than other fansites when gathering the information for this wiki. And for the record, as the human he is (and so we are), Serebii isn't always accurate. We know they're at least ten years old because Cheren says he's known Bianca for ten years. Masatoshitalk 16:18, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

capitalized 'contests'

When i was going through some pages,i noticed that some 'contests'(link and normal text) are capitalized,while in some other pages they are not. So should they be capitalized or not? I capitalized one i saw so if it is wrong pls tell and i'll correct it. Thank u! Auraguardian197 18:40, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

It depends, if you refer to Pokémon Contests then yes, but if you refer to another type of contest, ex: "Racing contest", or "Ash had a running contest with Morrison" then no.----DJWolfy 18:45, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

In the Pokemon Contests article many 'contests'(ex:Normal Rank 'contest','contests' are held,etc.) and in the dp062 article ("still upset about losing her(Dawn's) last 'contest') the 'contests' are not capatilized. Is it ok if i capitalize it?Auraguardian197 18:56, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, everything that refers to Contests as Pokémon Contests, Normal Rank or any Rank Contest is a Pokémon Contest, Dawn being upset about losing a Contest refers to a Pokémon Contest.----DJWolfy 19:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank u. I changed most of them. Btw i'd like know more abt subst:welcome,like who puts it etc. Can somebody help? Auraguardian197 20:06, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh that's for welcoming new users. When you see a new user's talk page without it just add that {{subst:welcome}} to his/her page and he/she'll have it too. - unsigned comment from DJWolfy (talkcontribs)
If you are ever unsure about capitalizations, please check User:SnorlaxMonster/Pokémon Syntax. --SnorlaxMonster 06:02, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

thx for the heads up

thx for the heads up on the template thing. I didn't read their warning and i didn't know about the violation thing. I just went ahead and removed the whole thing, the code stuff is to hard and I'm to old to learn it. I have a hard enough time learning about the new Pokémon. The first 151 cake, the next 100 additional ones *insert fonzy* the Gen III challenging...everything else....ugh.. @_@

As for me asking kenji-girl to have a word with Jo the Marten, I wasn't over reacting. Jo the Marten was being very pessimistic (that the right word?) and unpleasant. I asked Kenji-girl to take a look so I wasn't tempted to say something and start more trouble then the internet is worth. I'm too old to get roped into the things I always hear kids complain about, like flame wars and trolls. I don't want my every interaction with Jo the Marten to be an unpleasant one, but they seem to be putting off some bad mojo in the last couple of days. From getting on me about a innocent typo of their name, to undoing the * thingy and saying (I don't like this. I don't like this at all.) in the summary. I'm trying to not take things personal, but those little petty things are starting to add up.

As for the Masatoshi my wording might have been less then delicate, I'm not always able to express myself the way I'd like.

Plus I think when my eyes played their tricked where I saw her/his name instead of DJ...whatever I might have came off like I was blaming them for the end of the world.

I did over react on Masatoshi and I'll say sorry to them before I have another unneeded tension.

On another note, while I have slept since that day i was up 27 hours, I've not had the most restful sleeps. So I might be a little extra sensitive, but Jo's comment on that talk page was pretty Simon Cowell like. Yamitora1 10:31, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

While it is good that you decided to go to an admin rather than potentially get into a fight, it doesn't look very nice telling another admin to talk to someone, and it would have been better phrased if you had simply asked Kenji-girl to take a look at the situation, not told her what to do. Jo probably could have been a bit less blunt, but she didn't mean to be rude. Also, I really do appreciate that you went and apologized to Masatoshi; that really showed me that you can improve on your mistakes, which is a trait that not enough people have. --SnorlaxMonster 13:47, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't telling Kenji girl to do anything, I asked her. I forgot to say please but I did ask with niceness intended. Aw man, this situation is getting a little out of hand, and I want to clear the board and set everyone straight on the issue; but the aggression is arising and I doubt this can get any better with everyone like this.Yamitora1 17:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Sigantur Image

Is dat ok? --Altruis ノーマル 15:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC) <---?

There's no image in it, so yes, that's fine. --SnorlaxMonster 15:34, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Idea

I've got a huge idea. Since there are problems with the types I suggest to be made a separate template for types without the dash. And I think we should make use of the {{type}}, therefore a {{type|Fire}} would be Fire type and {{type|Fire}} would be Fire-type ? Plus, regardless of what you do if you write {{type|Fire|Fire type}} it still adds the dash. How about it ? ----DJWolfy 19:52, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure if i understand u correctly,but why do we need a new template? Can't we use the {{t}} template? Auraguardian197 17:43, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Yeah but using "Fire type" just doesn't look good. Plus, it would be better if we find a use for that useless <type> template since that and <type2> both do the same thing. I don't mind correcting them. Also, please remember to use the indentation column ":" at the beginning of the sentence so your comment doesn't interfere with mine or anyone else's. ----DJWolfy 17:54, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. But we only need to use the {{t}} template in places like,for ex-"the Fire pokemon,etc. So i guess there's no need for 'type'. Ur thoughts? And sorry abt the indent thing.Auraguardian197 18:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Not really, Charizard is a Fire type, Brock is an expert in Rock types, etc.----DJWolfy 18:20, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh,now i get it. But there's still one thing i don't understand. Can't we just use type2 for that? I'm just asking,that's all. I'm still new here so just don't take me too seriously ;-) Auraguardian197 18:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Because "Charizard is a Fire type" refers to a complement". Therefore, Charizard is a what ? (a Fire type). The dash applies to adjectives. Therefore, Charizard is a Fire-type Pokémon. This refers to an adjective. It answers to the question: What kind of Pokémon is Charizard ? Take a look here, it's almost an official policy.----DJWolfy 18:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

ok,i got it.Auraguardian197 18:58, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Well ok, just remember to read this when you get back.----DJWolfy 12:30, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't like it and I don't think it should link as Fire type anyway (I prefer Fire type). I would like to see {{type2}} eventually become {{type}}, so that will be its use. I think {{t|Fire}} type should continue to be used. Also, in regards to my absence, I should still be able to make time on the weekends, just not weekdays; the reason I posted it then was that I realized that I had been gone for a large number of days without saying anything in public (I had mentioned it to the staff). --SnorlaxMonster 10:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)--SnorlaxMonster 10:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay then.----DJWolfy 13:06, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Some questions

Hi, I have 2 questions for you:

- This one may help me to discover glitches other than the GB Sounds glitch (remember?), or not, because I don't really know the subject: what are hexadecimals???

- Can you please tell me the code necessary to make that huge user bar that you have on your page (that on that says "Welcome to SnorlaxMonster" at the beggining), along with the code for that HP bar? I will make the necessary changes. It's because I want to have more information on my user page. TheOriginalOne 13:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Everything in a video game has an index number. Due to computers storing data in binary, which is grouped into bytes, a byte can store one of 256 different combinations of bits. One byte is most easily expressed as 2 hexidecimal digits—with hexadecimal being base 16 and A=10, B=11, C=12, D=13, E=14, and F=15. So each glitch Pokémon has its index number expressed as two hexdecimal digits (four in Gen III+). This also means that there are 256 slots for Pokémon in the Generation I and II games, and thus 105 (256-151) glitch Pokémon in each Generation I game (counting Missingno.'s multiple index numbers as individual Pokémon) and 5 (256-251) glitch Pokémon in each Generation II game.
The code for my header can be easily viewed here (just edit it without saving). The HP bar template is here, but I'd rather you didn't straight out copy/paste that as it took a fair amount of work to make (the navigation header is simply a modification of the old main page header). --SnorlaxMonster 11:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Today I was going to do some final edits to my userspace elements based on those from you that we have talked about some time ago, so that there would be no copyright discussions. And guess what? Your friend that's also an admin, Jo_The_marten, deletes all I've done saying that I violated copyright! Then I told him that you have authorized me to do so with the necessary edits (remember)...and then he says that he PERSONALY heard from you the complaint that I was making it too much similar (not only it was starting to get much different, as now, as I've just said 3 lines ago, I was going to make major edits. I've suggested him that you took a look at the new code that I was going to write (and it's still not written). So, what do you say about all this stuff? TheOriginalOne (talk) 20:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Protection

Could you protect these please ? {{Safari}}, {{Coin}}, {{Chap2}} ----DJWolfy 11:43, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Done, but not {{chap2}} because its usage is way too low to justify it. --SnorlaxMonster 11:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Keldeo's formes

Should I hold off on adding any information on Keldeo's two formes? G50 07:53, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Probably best to wait until we have more than just a name and we actually get confirmation that the CoroCoro cover Keldeo is the new forme. - unsigned comment from SnorlaxMonster (talkcontribs)
Okay. G50 07:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, if it helps, the yellow text on its mane on the CoroCoro pic says 'Kakugo-no-Sugata Keldeo appears!' Bluesun (talk) 01:39, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Bulbanews has been referring to it as "Resolution Forme", so that's what we would use. As for the kami trio... I know we strangely haven't been translating the names, and I really think it would be best if we did. --SnorlaxMonster 05:50, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Mystery Dungeon 1 characters

Hi, I saw your edit summary on Whiscash's page and decided to write this as I've been playing through Blue version again recently. Would you mind giving it a quick look over to see if it's mainspaceable please? Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 06:24, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

It is certainly mainspaceable, but I would suggest putting in an infobox, like every PMD2 character has. --SnorlaxMonster 06:37, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
I have added an infobox and even found a picture for it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, sorry to bother you again but do you think it's ready for mainspace now? Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:00, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Made a page for Xatu as well. Will start one on Gardevoir in a minute too. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Just put them straight in the mainspace now. It makes it easier. --SnorlaxMonster 14:33, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay then. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:33, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
There are a few others I thought about, like Ninetales, Magnemite, and Diglett; however, I left them because I was unsure. If you think they're notable, go ahead and make them. --SnorlaxMonster 13:24, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for wrapping up the details on my editorial piece. --Evil Figment (talk) 07:28, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Something that I noticed was that nowhere in your article did you link to the forums announcement. Since the article gets a little confusing without it I would suggest it, but I didn't want to mess around with it too much because it is your editorial. --SnorlaxMonster 07:32, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

EvoTemplate

Isn't the {{evostone}} template kind of useless since you have to write the word "stone" when linking instead of the template inputing it automatically ? For example, as you know you have to write {{evostone|Fire Stone}} instead of {{evostone|Fire}}. The latter would be more convenient if it would automatically write the word "Stone" as with the {{Badge}} template.----DJWolfy 12:57, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Uhm also, why everytime I want to link to a movie Pokémon I have to enter his name twice. ex: {{mov|Mew|Mew|8}} instead of what would be more easier {{mov|Mew|8}}?
Also, please add the {{TR}} template on the page.----DJWolfy 16:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Evostone is already used so much that changing it would break a tonne of pages (and I personally think the name is too long and "stone" would be a better name anyway). I hate the movie template anyway and always use OBP instead. TR added (make sure you use {{MTR}} instead of it for Meowth). --SnorlaxMonster 11:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
No worries SM, I know that. But thanks. Btw, do we really need the {{E4}} template. It's only a useless redirect. Plus I've changed it to the real template (EF) on all the pages it appeared. It still links to 4 talk pages (including yours) which I cannot modify them (because they're protected archives). Shouldn't it be deleted ? Also you could change the evostone to stone as you said and let BulbaBot modify them all as it did with {{type}}. Therefore {{stone|Fire}} would link to Fire Stone. Simple as that.----DJWolfy 11:30, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that was why I brought up that I thought the name was too long; I was indirectly suggesting that. I have delinked every other usage of E4, so I'll delete it. --SnorlaxMonster 11:47, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

No wonder you've been promoted. You're really helpful. Thanks SM ! Btw, can visitor messages on the forums be deleted ?----DJWolfy 11:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, wasn't Kuki banned ? Because he still has his account on the forums.----DJWolfy 13:55, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Forums and wiki bans do not apply on the other (except in special cases). --SnorlaxMonster 13:58, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
I don't know. Wasn't he a big issue and banned like a lot of times (on the other wikis too) ? Also his recently made account was banned too. Can visitor messages on the forums be deleted ?----DJWolfy 14:15, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
I deleted one back when I wasn't staff, but I don't know if non-staff can anymore. I can delete messages as a staff member though. Also, fun fact: SandmanDP was made back in 2007, while Kuki was made in 2008, so SandmanDP is older, but he didn't use it until long after Kuki was banned. I believe he's been told to not use the forum for wiki matters as he's been banned from it though. If he's making you feel uncomfortable, you can always report the VM. --SnorlaxMonster 14:25, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Na.. let him have it. But could you delete his visitor message from my page on the forums ? I have the same name as here. What's the VM ?----DJWolfy 14:29, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what you meant by "let him have it". The comment that I deleted? I deleted them because "No longer needed. Just about whether or not I was logged on at the time. Should have been a PM.". The content was merely the other user saying "snorlax you there?" and me replying "I am now, now that the server is back up." If the VM is worthy of being deleted, it should be reported first; I don't like doing forum mod stuff despite having powers there because I really don't know their policies and I'm not that active there. --SnorlaxMonster 14:39, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
By let him have it I meant that I won't report him for the moment. But who are the people in charge of the forums ?----DJWolfy 14:44, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
See here for an organised list. There's also this list of everyone with powers (including simply being able to see the staff forum). --SnorlaxMonster 14:52, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
I have one curiosity. How did the staff find out that Sandman and Kuki are the same ?----DJWolfy 18:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
We have our ways. IPs and similarity in behavior mainly. --SnorlaxMonster 00:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Great. Could you add the {{ra}} template ? Also, since I've started this discussion with the stones.. what will happen to that template afterall ?----DJWolfy 07:41, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

{{ra}} added. Also, I realized why you need to type "stone" at the end when using that template; most stones are two words like "Fire Stone", but "Thunderstone" is one. --SnorlaxMonster 08:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
That's a shame.. Oh well. Do we really need the {{en}} template ? It's just a redirect to the real deal {{Eng}}. Plus I've modified it everywhere except for a talk page (because I'm not sure if I'm allowed to change talk pages only for a redirect).----DJWolfy 09:32, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, don't edit talk pages for relinking unless the redirect/template is going to be deleted. Anyway, done. --SnorlaxMonster 09:36, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Great! One last thing before I leave. I've proposed recently to Adyniz that we should have a {{Todd}} template for Todd Snap in order not to link as [[Todd Snap|Todd]]. Would be much easier. What do you say ?----DJWolfy 09:45, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, I believe he has been called both "Todd" and "Snap" so I think it would be better to use his full name when linking to him. --SnorlaxMonster 09:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Not really... The majority of it appears as Todd. (mostly anime). And everywhere it appears, it appears as [[Todd Snap|Todd]], pretty redundant.----DJWolfy 09:50, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

If it's being used in articles as [[Todd Snap|Todd]], then I would say a template is worthwhile. --SnorlaxMonster 09:51, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Yep, that's exactly what I said. That means there are possibilites that a template will be made ?----DJWolfy 09:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Two questions

Hello, SnorlaxMonster! I was wondering:

  1. In the games, when someone refers to a type, it's usually written as "<type's name>-type", like Poison-type, with an hyphen. With the Template:Type this works well, like in Poison-type. This way, the Template:T can be used in cases like "Bug, Fighting and Dragon-type". However, you undid one of my edits to the use of "Fire type", with no hyphen, and Wolfy is following this. What is the correct?
  2. Since you're a senior admin, can't you just split Form differences or do you need approval from other admins, because none of them has stated their views so far.

That's it. =) |) u |( e ® 21:16, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

For the first one, they should only be hyphenated when used as an adjective (e.g. Fire-type Pokémon...). When used as a noun they should not be hyphenated (e.g. Snorlax is Normal type.) This reflects both proper grammar and in-game usage. Werdnae (talk) 21:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Got it! ;) |) u |( e ® 21:31, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for barging in but this explains it better. Also it provides answers for other unclarities.----DJWolfy 11:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  1. I think this was just a typo, but one example Werdnae gave was not entirely correct. Correct usage would be "Snorlax is a Normal type" (used as a noun) or "Snorlax is Normal-type" (used as an adjective).
  2. To a degree, I probably could. However, I generally prefer to run it past other admins first (which I did when I saw this and they were fine with it). Also, I tend to have 10 things I want to do at once, so a lot of things have to get put off. --SnorlaxMonster 02:09, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Ah, now it makes sense. Helpful page, Wolfy, thank you! Thanks, people! |) u |( e ® 20:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Does my userspace violate your copyright?

Hi! You may have noticed the message that I have left in the "some questions" section. I've already received the codes from Jo_The_Marten and made many, many changes. I'm going to post the link to that here (please pay attention to the difference in the links, specially in the archive section, where they are completely different; also ignore the hex section, which I think I won't write again; I'll also not post the "random pokemon" part again). Anyways, please pay attention to the differences for you to tell me if all these changes were enough. Well, here is the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?jt2cnq7t1stvbfs TheOriginalOne (talk) 23:22, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Nav looks fine; that is the one I said I didn't mind at all if you copied. Just letting you know that there is no |} at the bottom of it, so if you try and put it on a page it will eat up everything. Your "today" template is an exact copy and completely unnecessary; just transclude mine. And I think you misunderstood what I said about my talk page HP bar; I don't want you copying the code, but I don't mind if you look at the code to see how I did certain aspects of it (hoverexpand, the HP bar itself, etc.) and making your own. There are other users who make talk page HP bars who don't mind you using theirs though (make sure you ask first though). And again, your decimal to hexadecimal converter is exactly the same as mine, so if you want to use one just use mine. Anyway, the reason I complained to Jo was because by taking so much of my stuff you made your userpage look almost exactly the same as mine. --SnorlaxMonster 02:09, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, about the "eat-up" part, I'm going to leave it as it is, because it sounds funny to me to have it as a background (besides, it will look even more different from your page). Also, I was still thinking about having "today" copied because I will then try to ask for more info from "today in history" to The dark lord trombonator, for it to be more complete and for your page not to be affected... or will you do the same thing, so that this part will become really unnecessary? And will adding a picture of a battle with missingno. fighting in the upper part be enought for my HP bar to be original? Also, I've already told you that I won't use the "/hex", tought it is mentioned in the file. Well, I'm looking forward to your answer for me to know what I can do. TheOriginalOne (talk) 13:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

You including /hex in the file made me think you were going to use it. If you want to copy what trom has into a template and use that, go ahead; trom's page is virtually a Bulbapediaspace/templatespace page anyway, so you can copy the code from it if you want (just don't copy the entire page with all of his notes and everything because that's pointless). I think it will just look ugly if it eats the page, but whatever you prefer. --SnorlaxMonster 13:35, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, and what about the HP bar? Did you read that part? TheOriginalOne (talk) 13:46, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I knew I missed a bit. No, that is not what I meant at all. I don't mean copy then change mine, I mean make your own possibly looking at mine to see how I did it. --SnorlaxMonster 13:47, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I was asking if you had read my suggestion in this section about a picture of a battle with missingno. Are you talking about that? Oh, and I've already noticed what you meant with "ugly". I've already reached the limit of 3 edits per day, so tomorrow I'll do things like changing the color of the bottom of the nav. TheOriginalOne (talk) 14:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I meant that simply adding a picture of battling Missingno. to mine is not enough to qualify as original. And that is why you should use the preview button before saving. --SnorlaxMonster 14:07, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

"that is why you should use the preview button before saving."... That's a little ambiguous:

  • If you're talking about the "ugly" part: Remember that I have to work with 2 pages: the nav and the normal one. So, the code necessary for the nav to eat up or not is in the nav section, a page where I cannot preview how it's going to look like in the normal page. Then, I used the preview button when I was editing the normal page, and that was when I noticed that it was ugly. Then I tought "Oh no! But... I can click the edit button (that was the third edit) and then, tomorrow, modify the nav section. I just need some patience."
  • If you're talking about the HP bar... I didn't save it :)

Oh yeah, now I'll try to make major edits to the HP bar. TheOriginalOne (talk) 14:20, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I meant the nav template. And I warned you it would do that anyway. Regardless... if you previewed and saw it looked ugly, you could still have manually put a |} outside of the template. --SnorlaxMonster 14:30, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

No, because as I said, at that time I had already edited the nav, and in the nav page I couldn't preview what was going to happen in the main page... so there's also something I forgot to mention: I deleted a part of the code that I've discovered that in fact it wasn't what you were talking about... but, anyway, I won't search for it again: as I said some time ago, I'll just change it to a lighter color. TheOriginalOne (talk) 14:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Celebi

I added the delete tag on this page since we already had a page on Celebi. Your revision on the former tells me it is a sample page. Is there a template to place on the sample page? PattyMan 13:23, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

This section is not on the current article in that manner. --SnorlaxMonster 13:25, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
That should be agreeable. By the way, congratulation on your promotion to the Advisory Council on the archives. PattyMan 13:31, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

The two templates

I noticed that the {{Questionable Notability}} has been changed to {{DiscussDelete}} with the notability reason on the other pages. Was there anything wrong? PattyMan 13:42, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
{{Questionable Notability}} states in its description that "This article has been protected due to the subject of this article being of questionable notability." and also places it in the protected pages category. I'm not even sure why we still have it, because we don't protect pages if they have questionable notability anymore. --SnorlaxMonster 13:44, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
I think the template distinguishes the fact that users can choose whether or not if a page is worthy enough to be kept instead of it getting deleted automatically. Placing the DiscussDelete tag would be a reminder to have it deleted immediately, but you do have a good point about the Questionable Notability template being redundant to the DiscussDelete one. I would find it ironic that the latter would be placed on the former (if it did happen). PattyMan 13:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
The {{delete}} tag is for immediate deletion; {{DiscussDelete}} requires discussion first. --SnorlaxMonster 13:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
I think the {{DiscussDelete}} template should be placed on the {{Questionable Notability}} one for that matter. PattyMan 14:00, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

HP bar

Is my HP bar OK like this:

Missingno RB.png 49/∞ HP
 
What will Missingno. do?
Fight
Pokémon
389MS.png 398MS.png 405MS.png 078MS.png
Items Run


I didn't have patience to upload it to another website, so I've posted it here. What about it? For me it seems very different from yours. TheOriginalOne (talk) 14:57, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

No, posting it here rather than uploading it elsewhere is probably easier. Anyway, you still don't seem to understand what I'm saying. Do not use my template as a base and modify it; you can create your own or modify someone else's (that allows you to) and use mine as a reference only. So while it is different from mine, you have still clearly used my template as a base. --SnorlaxMonster 14:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Type - Leaders

So.. I've noticed that if you look on a Gym Leader's page at the charinfobox where it is writen his/her specialization, the type is hypenated. Should it be that way ?----DJWolfy 20:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's bothered me for a while. They should be "Electric types" etc. --SnorlaxMonster 14:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Great, that means I can go right ahead and modify them right ?----DJWolfy 17:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Done. Btw, please add the {{GnB}} template.----DJWolfy 21:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Also, should the {{spoilers}} template be added ?----DJWolfy 15:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Aaaand the {{mdc|<name>|2}} template. Sorry, I keep forgetting them.----DJWolfy 16:17, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Added the GnB and mdc, but {{spoilers}} isn't a link template. --SnorlaxMonster 11:32, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Excellent ! Do we really need the {{spoiler}} (without the s) template ? It's just a redirect. Plus I've relinked the other articles with the exception of Paul's page because it's protected and talk pages.----DJWolfy 11:40, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, there is no problem with template redirects. --SnorlaxMonster 15:28, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Yeah but I see no point in keeping them since I've modified'em all. We've done the same with "E4" and "En". Plus, redirects take longer to load the page. And I get the 503 error more often when using redirects.----DJWolfy 15:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
I do not believe there is any relationship between redirects and 503s. I get them everywhere, from previewing to the main page. --SnorlaxMonster 12:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Movedesc template

Looking through the list of moves and notice that some of the descriptions are the same for RSE and ColoXD, however combining them just gives a blank white space on the template itself. Is there any way to fix this problem or is it intentional? Frozen Fennec 17:14, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Added that combination. If there's any more combinations you need added, just let me know. --SnorlaxMonster 12:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Going to work on these more later today after I get done creating user talk pages for everyone who made an account during the site lockdown. Care to add the combination of RSEColoXDFRLG (I imagine the gen IV and V games will look fine after that) just in case I run into something like that? Thank you. :) Frozen Fennec 13:58, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Hijacking for a moment. Does that table have to be limited to "main games" only? I don't know about any other side games, but Conquest has move descriptions for the one move each pokémon has. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 14:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I would rather restrict it to main and side series game at the moment. Conquest, PMD, and Rumble move descriptions would hopefully go in a separate table (pretty sure those are the only spin-offs with move descriptions). --SnorlaxMonster 14:06, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Oshawott.

I've checked entry in White 2, and it seems to identical to what someone put in Black 2. However, I can't find any field for that. And yes, I managed to get White 2. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 09:55, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Just use "b2w2dex=" --SnorlaxMonster 10:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and it seems that exp yield, or formula, has been changed once again, as I got 94 EXP from rival battle (Lv. 5 Snivy vs Lv. 5 Oshawott), and that should be - {[(1.5*28*5)/(5*1)] * [(2*5+10)^2.5/(5+5+10)^2.5]} * 1 * 1 * 1 = (1.5*28) * 1 = 42; I got about 2 and 1/3 as much as that. Also, in BW it took me two fights to get Lv. 6, against both Cheren and Bianca, but here only one. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 10:39, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

AIM

Could you get back on AIM, some things need discussing. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 09:30, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

templates

Yeah, hello, long time no see. Now let's get down to business. Since no page leads to the {{mo}} template which is only a redirect for the mov, and the same with the {{spoiler}} which is a redirect of spoilers, could you delete them as you did with the previous unused templates ? ----DJWolfy 15:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll delete them, but please don't worry with template redirects right now. They aren't doing any harm. --SnorlaxMonster 13:49, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Well, I could swear I get most 503's from redirects. At least me...----DJWolfy 17:49, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Focus Punch charging

Seems to be priority +8 or something, it outspeeded Pursuit's user, despite being slower than it. Now we need to check Generation IV and V.Marked +-+-+ (talk) 19:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Since it even outspeeds switching of the Pokémon using it, that was expected. Now we just need to test other gens (I guess BW wouldn't be too hard for me to do). --SnorlaxMonster 11:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

GB Sounds glitch... AGAIN!

Hey, remember that long conversation we had about the GB Sounds glitch after I discovered it? Remember when at the end we said "case closed"? Well... it's not case closed; the saga goes on! I've made a new discovery, but it is a little confuse, so I guess we should talk about that. Well, here is it:

Some time ago I've published a video with a tutorial about how to perform the glitch, and then I've noticed a weird video about what could possibly be another version of the glitch. Here's the description:

So... I was online with my friend doing the Battle Frontier. We finished, we go offline. The moment I go offline, I press Y to turn off the GBA Player (an object used to change the BGM to play the 8-bit versions of the songs, for those who don't know) at the same time that Cooltrainer Reena calls me. The message "Turned off the power for GB Sounds" shows up, but instead of the usual pokemon center music returning to play...

(she says "Battle Frontier", but in fact the video shows the Pokémon Center in B1F; also, she said GBA instead of GB; "BGM" means "Background Music".)

Analysing what she said, and what happened in the video, I came up with the idea that I was looking at a new type of the glitch, because in fact I did not discover the GB Sounds glitch, instead I've just discovered what I call the "Cinnabar type". Well, I was facing a second type, which I call... this is where our problems begin: I don't know if the cause of the glitch was really what she said, I mean, if it was because the GB Sounds was turned off at the exact moment someone was calling her (the "Pokégear type"), because she turned it on before she was connected and off after that (the "Wi-fi type"), or because of any other unknown reason. There is another non-investigated mystery about this: she mentions an interessing thing about the glitch, which is the fact that, contrary to what happens in the Cinnabar type, this time you can use the Y feature. What if we use it from the bag?

Or maybe she fooled us and this new type doesn't even exist... I think we should both fully investigate this, don't you agree? TheOriginalOne 14:43, 14 July 2012 (UTC)