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Talk:In-battle effect item

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Iron Ball

Why is there a point of having an Iron Ball? The only thing that makes it useful is that it gives the most power on the move Fling... Tesh 12:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Trick also combos nicely with it. --DarkfireTaimatsu 19:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
You could have the Pokémon holding it use Trick Room and then the Speed cut would become a good thing. Shiny Noctowl 19:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, it just seems like a pointless object. Never mind. Tesh 19:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Tesh, you're only thinking of beneficial effects from holding an item. Several held items that were added in Generation IV don't actually benefit the Pokémon holding it, but are meant to be used with other strategies that weren't possible with the previous Generations. Examples:
  • Toxic Orb/Flame Orb- These items don't benefit the Pokémon that holds it, but they are useful when combined with certain moves (Fling, Trick, and Switcheroo in particular) and Abilities (Guts (with Toxic Orb at least), Magic Guard (the Pokémon won't take damage from the effect, so they can use a powered-up Facade without taking excessive damage), and Klutz).
  • Iron Ball- Iron Ball can be Flung to cause massive damage, or it can be Switcheroo'd/Tricked onto an opponent in order to weaken them (especially helpful against a Flying-type or a Levitating opponent). A Lopunny or Buneary with Klutz can make the most of these tricks, since they won't suffer from the reduced speed.
  • Lagging Tail- Trick or Switcheroo will put this on your opponent, making them move last every turn. Very helpful if your Pokémon is extremely slow.
Don't judge an item just by what it does; judge it by what you can do with it. Diachronos 16:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, thanks I kind of figured that out after lol. TESHIGIGAS 16:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Black Sludge

I've always wondered, is there any advantage to using Black Sludge on a Poison-type Pokémon as opposed to Leftovers? Blink 17:37 16 August 2007 (GMT)

You could use Trick or Switcheroo. Or, if the opponent uses Thief, Covet, Trick, or Switcheroo on the first turn because they don't know what you're holding, and they aren't a Poison-type, they will get hurt. --Shiny Noctowl 16:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Or, if you're required to give each Pokémon a different hold item, it's the equivalent of being able to use 2 Leftovers. Zurqoxn 00:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
I see. I thought it might restore a little more health or something.
It helps in places like the Battle Tower. TESHIGIGAS 16:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Choice Specs

...the man gives out the Choice Specs during the morning, right? Because I just went to him and he talked about BlackGlasses instead. Is 10:35 REALLY not considered morning, or does the time period for BlackGlasses-giveaway happens to be at 10? ...on the other hand, when does the Specs giveaway start and end? 281Tina☆♥♫δ282 16:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

The Choice Specs are from 8:00 PM to 3:59 AM, so at night. File:164sMS.pngShiny?! 13:37, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Focus Band/Focus Sash

Do they let you have 1HP left even if you're hit by a OHKO attack, such as Sheer Cold? File:164sMS.pngShiny?! 13:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Wide Lens

How much does it raise accuracy by? 20%? 30%? TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 22:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

20% TESHIGIGAS 22:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

So DynamicPunch has 70% with it? TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 23:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Nope, 60% . It's a 20% increase. (50 / 10 = 5. 5 × 2 = 10. 50 + 10 = 60%) TESHIGIGAS 16:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Is that taken into account before or after an ability?(i.e. Compoundeyes)
I'm not sure about that, but I'm guessing that it is done before an ability. TESHIGIGAS RAWR!! 16:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

White Herb

Does a white herb, after curing status, get consumed, or is it reusable? Zapdos 18:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

It is consumed. TESHIGIGAS 18:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
But in PBR and stuff like it (Battle Tower, so on) it returns. TTEchidnaFire echy 07:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Leftovers under sleeping Snorlax in FR/LG.

Do you need to find this before the Snorlax wakes up?

I've also heard of items being under certain key people in the game, but I've never found them in FR or LG. And I'm an Itemfinder fiend, running it nearly constantly. Machinedramon 19:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC) There's a Soothe Bell under where Mr. Fuji was in Pokémon Tower, and a Macho Brace where Giovanni was standing in the gym. And a Sacred Ash under where Ho-Oh perched. I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 19:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

You have to stand right where they were standing and use the Itemfinder for it to work; the items won't show up AT ALL if you're not standing on that exact spot. Diachronos 16:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

EXP. Share

If you have 2 exp.shares in your party do they get 1/3 of the exp or do they both get 1/2? ie. would it be practical to have 5 exp.share's if your first one can ohko almost all? Keirou 01:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

If two Pokémon are holding Exp. Shares, the experience is divided in thirds, then distributed 1/3 to one holder, 1/3 to the other, and the remaining 1/3 is distributed among whoever battled. Having 5 of your Pokémon hold Exp. Shares would be the equivalent of having an Exp. All. TTEchidna 07:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, after experimenting today in Diamond, I discovered that 2 Exp. Shares splits so the pokemon who fought get half, and the sharers get a quarter each. I'll be experimenting with three as soon as I pick it up. Salix 06:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
It appears that the Exp. Sharers get half the exp and the battlers get the other half, or at least in Diamond. Salix 03:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Smoke Ball

Does it work on Pokémon with ability such as shadow tag or arena trap or of the Pokémon used mean look before you decide to press run? TheBlazikenMaster 03:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes. TESHIGIGAS 16:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Focus Band AND Smoke Ball AND Focus Sash

For Focus Band, does it work even when your HP is less than full (i.e. 1 HP can still survive)? if so, what are the odds? For Smoke Ball, how do you use it in DP? It doesn't show up in any of the 4 item menus during battle. For Focus Sash, does it FULLY disappear after use (a one-battle deal, please return to the battle tower for another)? -- Sk8torchic

1. Yes, but I don't know the odds, 2. Make your Pokémon hold it, 3. yes, but you can also get it at the route near Pal Park. Hope I helped!--Kkllnn blastoise 19:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Amulet Coin

If you have multiple Amulet Coins, would you gain 4 times the amount (for 2), and etc.? ht14 19:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

No, as far as I can tell, multiple Amulet Coins and Luck Incenses do not stack. --Shiningpikablu252 19:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
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