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::::I just did a check on all the other Gym Leaders as well, and it seems to me that Sabrina's sprite was also changed in Yellow. Am I right? If I am, could you take care of that too?
::::I just did a check on all the other Gym Leaders as well, and it seems to me that Sabrina's sprite was also changed in Yellow. Am I right? If I am, could you take care of that too?
::::Also, something unrelated to sprites: how are we going to add the special spawns in the Let's Go games to the encounter lists? Like what kind of header we use, what encounter rate we use, etc.? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
::::Also, something unrelated to sprites: how are we going to add the special spawns in the Let's Go games to the encounter lists? Like what kind of header we use, what encounter rate we use, etc.? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
== Adding transfer-only moves to Pokedex pages  ==
I don't know if I can word this better myself, so I'm going to [[Bulbapedia_talk:Project_Pokédex/Structure|quote Nescientist]].
:Sumwun and I believe that, for the moves, an additional section "By transfer from an earlier generation" would be sensible. (Please refer to [[User talk:Force Fire#Transfer-only moves and ability changes]].) The addition of this subsection would enable users to tell what moves <species> can '''''know''''' (in <game/generation>) at one glance.
:It's very well possible even Tiddlywinks is ''under''estimating how difficult it is to answer the "know in <game/generation>" question (as much as I initially did). As Sumwun said at the referenced talk page, currently, you'd have to click at least up to 6 links to learnset pages, assuming you already know by heart how transfer works (and that you can't transfer Pokémon from GO by any means, which is what I actually doublechecked). And additionally, you might have to actually ''neglect'' irrelevant sections on learnset pages (for example, in USUM/GenVII, {{p|Bulbasaur}} cannot ''know'' {{m|AncientPower}} AFAIK). (If there's a faster method, I'd like to hear it.)
:And I can't stress how important I think that question is, for I believe it is the central question to that species and learnset pages should be providing an answer to (the use case). It all boils down to that use case: in Tiddlywinks' words, what's the "concern" species/learnset pages try to address? I can't sketch a question/use case that would include "By events" but not "By transfer from a prior generation". (Well, for USUM, I can sketch the question "What moves can <species> with [[black clover]] know?", but that's arguably a "special" case, and probably comp-centric{{tt|*|I am not a competitve battler, by the way}}.) I would like to know what you guys think that use case should be.
:Regarding Tiddlywinks' comment about this coming from a "specific focus like comp/challenges", I took some time to think about that. Apart from the fact that I don't think the use case is comp-centric even, it is also not subjective, but purely factual, unlike the questions you said "we're never going to do" (and, by the way, I agree we shouldn't). For example, I recall that I once designed a team for my next playthrough, and I was searching possible moves for them. From context, I can recreate it must've been for XY before ORAS came out, because I wanted my Swinub to have a good Special Ground-type STAB and ended up breeding it in an earlier generation so I could teach it Earth Power via move tutor, then transfered (and traded) it to the new save file. I don't think that I ever was, in any point in time, trying to answer a question where I required all current subsections but not "By transfer from a prior generation".
:I would like to know what you guys think that use case should be, and whether you think the suggestion subsection is sensible.
[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)