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=Content from Ashley pre-merge=
== Pronoun ==
Should <s>he</s> <s>she</s> <s>it</s> whatever be classified as male or female?--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|<font color="green">K</font>]][[Gary's Blastoise|<font color="green">kl</font>]][[Blastoise (TCG)|<font color="black">l</font>]][[User:Kkllnn|<font color="pink">nn</font>]] <small>[[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]]</small> 00:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Should <s>he</s> <s>she</s> <s>it</s> whatever be classified as male or female?--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|<font color="green">K</font>]][[Gary's Blastoise|<font color="green">kl</font>]][[Blastoise (TCG)|<font color="black">l</font>]][[User:Kkllnn|<font color="pink">nn</font>]] <small>[[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]]</small> 00:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:I would have to say that this "character" should be classed as male, since it's just Ash in a disguise. Other than the final line before the Trivia section, the entire article uses ''him'', ''he'', and ''his''. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''Kogoro'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''Talk to me'''</span>]] '''|''' 00:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:I would have to say that this "character" should be classed as male, since it's just Ash in a disguise. Other than the final line before the Trivia section, the entire article uses ''him'', ''he'', and ''his''. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''Kogoro'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''Talk to me'''</span>]] '''|''' 00:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
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:No. No need at all. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 22:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
:No. No need at all. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 22:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
::I didn't think there would be. Thank you for clearing that up. [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] 01:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::I didn't think there would be. Thank you for clearing that up. [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] 01:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
== Why do we even need this page ==
Why should there be a whole page for just EP026's Ashley? "She" wasn't even a character of the day, it was just a disguise Ash was wearing. He wasn't even wearing the disguise for most of the episode!
I think a page dedicated to Ash crossdressing as a whole would make a lot more sense. {{unsigned|Tw1nklechu}}
== Delete ==
I feel like this is not notable enough to be its own page. As Tw1nklechu suggested above, a page about Ash crossdressing, or even a page just about crossdressing in the anime in general (looking at you {{TRT}}) would be much more notable than just this one particular disguise from one episode. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 07:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
:Bumping this. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 20:04, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
::A page for crossdressing in Pokémon would be nice, yes.--[[User:MissDelibirda|MissDelibirda]] ([[User talk:MissDelibirda|talk]]) 20:09, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Although [[List of clothing in the anime]] may technically already have that topic covered. A separate article focusing on just crossdressing may be somewhat redundant. It would definitely need to be more detailed to be worth splitting, at least. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 20:18, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
::::I agree that this isn't notable enough to warrant a page. At its core, and for its original intents and purposes, this is just a disguise used in an episode. It wouldn't make sense to have a page dedicated to each disguise used by a character in the anime. If it did, then some of the well-thought-out disguises (like Jessina and Jamesio for referencing Sina and Dexio) would warrant their own pages. I'm in favour of deletion. '''[[User:Dougbro1|<span style="color:blue">Dougbro1</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Dougbro1|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]]) 17:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::A page dedicated to crossdressing sounds good and could cover more characters. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:41, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
::::::The clothing list article is dedicated to clothing in general, not just crossdressing incidents. An article solely dedicated to crossdressing would make it easier to find out about clothes and disguises related to that subject specifically.  --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:45, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::::If there's enough interest and we can create an article with enough detail, I'm not 100% against it. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 20:46, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
::::::::Please don't make me confused. {{unsigned|Taufiq}}
{{indent}} I still think the Ashley article should be deleted, and there appears to be a consensus on that so far, with 3 users explicitly supporting it (including myself). I'd like to hear if anyone else explicitly supports the deletion. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 01:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:Bump. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 07:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
::I'm in support of merging this with a crossdressing page or deleting it entirely. [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
:::I've started {{redlink|User:Landfish7/Cross-dressing (anime)|this}} if anyone would like to help expand it. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 13:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
{{bp|Staff}} decided to mainspace Landfish7's cross-dressing page and merge [[Ashley]] into it. This has been done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:15, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
=Content from Cross-dressing (anime) pre-merge=
== Merge ==
I really don't see the need to maintain the anime instances of cross-dressing as separate from cross-dressing across the whole franchise. While the anime is clearly the most common source for cross-dressing, there's so little content from other media on [[cross-dressing]] that to me it would make the most sense to just merge this page into that page as part of the anime section. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:30, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, I agree about merging. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 12:00, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
=Post-merge discussion=
== Merged ==
The content and page history of Cross-dressing (anime) has been merged into Cross-dressing. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#32b761">'''Land'''</span>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#5f6775"><small>'''fish7'''</small></span>]] 11:31, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:Thank you. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 23:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 23:28, 15 March 2024

Content from Ashley pre-merge

Pronoun

Should he she it whatever be classified as male or female?--Kkllnn blastoise 00:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I would have to say that this "character" should be classed as male, since it's just Ash in a disguise. Other than the final line before the Trivia section, the entire article uses him, he, and his. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 00:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Sprites

Is there any call, need and/or use for a composite sprite depicting Ash wearing this getup? I would assume the answer would be "no", but since I happened to make one a little while ago, I thought I'd ask. This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia 23:50, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

No. No need at all. — THE TROM — 22:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't think there would be. Thank you for clearing that up. This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia 01:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Why do we even need this page

Why should there be a whole page for just EP026's Ashley? "She" wasn't even a character of the day, it was just a disguise Ash was wearing. He wasn't even wearing the disguise for most of the episode! I think a page dedicated to Ash crossdressing as a whole would make a lot more sense. - unsigned comment from Tw1nklechu (talkcontribs)

Delete

I feel like this is not notable enough to be its own page. As Tw1nklechu suggested above, a page about Ash crossdressing, or even a page just about crossdressing in the anime in general (looking at you Team Rocket) would be much more notable than just this one particular disguise from one episode. Landfish7 07:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Bumping this. Landfish7 20:04, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
A page for crossdressing in Pokémon would be nice, yes.--MissDelibirda (talk) 20:09, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Although List of clothing in the anime may technically already have that topic covered. A separate article focusing on just crossdressing may be somewhat redundant. It would definitely need to be more detailed to be worth splitting, at least. Landfish7 20:18, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
I agree that this isn't notable enough to warrant a page. At its core, and for its original intents and purposes, this is just a disguise used in an episode. It wouldn't make sense to have a page dedicated to each disguise used by a character in the anime. If it did, then some of the well-thought-out disguises (like Jessina and Jamesio for referencing Sina and Dexio) would warrant their own pages. I'm in favour of deletion. Dougbro1 (Talk) 17:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
A page dedicated to crossdressing sounds good and could cover more characters. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:41, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
The clothing list article is dedicated to clothing in general, not just crossdressing incidents. An article solely dedicated to crossdressing would make it easier to find out about clothes and disguises related to that subject specifically. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:45, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
If there's enough interest and we can create an article with enough detail, I'm not 100% against it. Landfish7 20:46, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Please don't make me confused. - unsigned comment from Taufiq (talkcontribs)

(resetting indent) I still think the Ashley article should be deleted, and there appears to be a consensus on that so far, with 3 users explicitly supporting it (including myself). I'd like to hear if anyone else explicitly supports the deletion. Landfish7 01:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Bump. Landfish7 07:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
I'm in support of merging this with a crossdressing page or deleting it entirely. Rahl (talk) 12:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
I've started this if anyone would like to help expand it. Landfish7 13:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Staff decided to mainspace Landfish7's cross-dressing page and merge Ashley into it. This has been done. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:15, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Content from Cross-dressing (anime) pre-merge

Merge

I really don't see the need to maintain the anime instances of cross-dressing as separate from cross-dressing across the whole franchise. While the anime is clearly the most common source for cross-dressing, there's so little content from other media on cross-dressing that to me it would make the most sense to just merge this page into that page as part of the anime section. --SnorlaxMonster 05:30, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I agree about merging. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:00, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Post-merge discussion

Merged

The content and page history of Cross-dressing (anime) has been merged into Cross-dressing. Landfish7 11:31, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 23:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)