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::::I agree I am going to respect the rules, will not edit anyone else's userspace [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 03:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC) | ::::I agree I am going to respect the rules, will not edit anyone else's userspace [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 03:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::Again, that's not how it works. You were informed of the policy, you were trusted to follow it, and you breached that trust by continuing to violate the policy. Now you have to actually ''earn that trust back'' before we will restore your userspace privileges. Not by saying you will follow the rules, but by actually following the rules and editing solely to help improve Bulbapedia. Your userspace privileges will not be restored, and continuing to ask for your privileges back will only further delay them being restored. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 16:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC) | :::::Again, that's not how it works. You were informed of the policy, you were trusted to follow it, and you breached that trust by continuing to violate the policy. Now you have to actually ''earn that trust back'' before we will restore your userspace privileges. Not by saying you will follow the rules, but by actually following the rules and editing solely to help improve Bulbapedia. Your userspace privileges will not be restored, and continuing to ask for your privileges back will only further delay them being restored. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 16:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
I am following the rules, by editing in the mainspace, by fixing errors, now i need it back, not indefinite. [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 03:45, 31 July 2015 (UTC) | ::::::I am following the rules, by editing in the mainspace, by fixing errors, now i need it back, not indefinite. [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 03:45, 31 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::::I will just edit some pages, then get it back, once, i consistently follow the rules. [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 09:52, 4 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
I will just edit some pages, then get it back, once, i consistently follow the rules. [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 09:52, 4 August 2015 (UTC) | ::::::::Made a lot of mainspace edits, is this editing enough to get it back? [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 13:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::As I told you before, your userspace privileges will be restored when the Editorial Board feels you have earned them back, and asking for them to be restored will not result in them being restored. Do not ask about it again, it will simply happen when it happens. Further comments to this section will not be considered, as the matter is closed. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
I want the editorial board to track my progress, I will get it back once the progress bar is 100%, and will focus on editing game articles, best edit i did is all caps problem with [[Poké Transfer]].[[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 09:55, 27 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Why did you protect [[Tom Wayland]]?== | ==Why did you protect [[Tom Wayland]]?== | ||
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Turns out the new data puller is also getting all of the disruption data and Pokémon who default on the stage as well if support slots are empty, so each area page can now be expanded over time to have individual stage data under the summarized stage info, resulting in very detailed pages, so that will keep me busy provided it's approved. Apparently the updates in the single (huge!) initial report on that pastebin date back to 1.1.5 or something like that, so there might still be something (like Mew) missing; I'll see about that. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC) | Turns out the new data puller is also getting all of the disruption data and Pokémon who default on the stage as well if support slots are empty, so each area page can now be expanded over time to have individual stage data under the summarized stage info, resulting in very detailed pages, so that will keep me busy provided it's approved. Apparently the updates in the single (huge!) initial report on that pastebin date back to 1.1.5 or something like that, so there might still be something (like Mew) missing; I'll see about that. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
:A decision has not been made yet. I will inform you when we have a decision finalized. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 02:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Alrighty, I am eagerly awaiting this either way. Been waiting to do other updates based on the pending decision. (Just so they don't have to all be redone later.) [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:21, 21 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Template:Ytu == | |||
It's currently broken. | |||
<code><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.youtube.com/user/{{{1|Bulbagarden}}} {{{2|{{{1|Bulbagarden}}}'s YouTube channel}}}]</span></code> | |||
Fix: <code><span class="plainlinks">[https://www.youtube.com/{{{1|channel/UC5ukgiFPQ2N1FM_4eYZxiCg}}} {{{2|{{{1|Bulbagarden}}}'s YouTube channel}}}]</span></code> | |||
This issue has priority because [[Template:YouTubeVid]] uses [[Template:Ytu]] and is still in use. A recent example of the issues this causes: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_glitches_in_Generation_I&oldid=2326038 here] and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_glitches_in_Generation_I&oldid=2326040 here]. Links to Google+ YouTube channel IDs are always broken but old YouTube channel IDs are fine, though. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 22:18, 28 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:'''UPDATE:''' Further patched it to use HTTPS URLs (which reminds me [[Template talk:Wp#HTTPS|of this]]; it's 2015 and Wikipedia now strictly uses HTTPS). [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 22:47, 28 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Both YouTube templates are now updated to use the existing 2 parameter for the link needed, whether it be user or channel, and the new '''name''' parameter to allow the link text to be a proper name. I have also updated the wp prefix on the interwiki table to use https. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:53, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Thanks. I still think that the extra work we put on ourselves is not worth it because YouTube videos are direct sources in themselves, and they already link to the author properly. | |||
:::And [[Template:YouTubeVid]] is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:YouTubeVid&oldid=1561295 not really broken]. [[Template:YouTubeEmbed]] thus seems unnecessary, especially when [https://web.archive.org/web/20150524142955/https://www.mediawikiwidgets.org/YouTube the YouTube widget it uses] is far more limited than [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo the EmbedVideo extension] used by "YouTubeVid". I've been playing around with this {{u|SatoMew2/YouTubeVid|here}} and {{ut|SatoMew2/YouTubeVid|here}}. | |||
:::Also, [[Template:Ytu]] is now deprecated and unused so it should be deleted. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 06:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::The YouTube user links are still broken. For Google+ channels, it should be <code>youtube.com/channel/<channellink></code>, and for older accounts (with actual names in the URLs) it should be <code>youtube.com/user/<username></code>. Currently, it's using <code>youtube.com/<username></code>, which usually works for older accounts (not sure if it fails for some of them though), but does not work for Google+ channels. [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:YouTubeVid&diff=55824&oldid=52526 Here] is the fix I did on Bulbanews, if you're interested in implementing it that way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:41, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::Well, you could just add "channel/" yourself but, since you mentioned this, then don't forget that there is a third channel ID URL type, <code>youtube.com/c/<anything></code>. The best solution is to drop the pointless names from the template altogether since they try to solve a problem that doesn't exist. "YouTubeVid" just needs to be fixed and EmbedVideo doesn't have to be replaced with the YouTube widget. [https://i.imgur.com/8UNKH8n.png Here's how my template looks on mobile Bulbapedia, by the way.] Also, there will always be loading issues if a page has too many embedded videos, regardless of template, extension, or widget. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 15:43, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::Here's the code for my template, in case you decide to fix "YouTubeVid", which would be the best call (I don't want my userspace edits to be merged with mainspace): <nowiki><div>{{#ev:youtube|{{{1|1}}}|{{{2|}}}|{{{3|}}}|{{{4|}}}|{{{5|}}}}}</div></nowiki>. Parameter 1 is the ID, 2 is for the dimensions, 3 is for alignment, 4 is for descriptions, and 5 is for wrapping the video player in a MediaWiki thumbnail box using <code>frame</code> ([https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo#Attributes_for_Parser_Tags source]). In a way, it's like what we do with images. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 16:34, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Can you also update the interwiki link table so that [[Template:Jwp]] uses HTTPS as well? [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 16:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::@SnorlaxMonster: While your fix works fine for Bulbanews, it's not something we can use on Bulbapedia as we're trying to avoid extraneous use of parser functions on articles due to their negative effect on load times. The changes I made to the templates work, but require the articles to be modified slightly to get back up to date. | |||
:::::::@SatoMew2: The names aren't pointless, and you really need to drop the crusade against them. Bulbapedia strives to attribute the videos '''before''' the reader uses the play button. The EmbedVideo extension is not to be used, and only remains installed for legacy purposes, the only approved embedding format is {{template|YouTubeEmbed}}. Your "template" will not be used. {{template|YouTubeVid}} will not be updated to include videos again, as it's been replaced by {{template|YouTubeEmbed}} for cases where embedding is necessary. {{template|YouTubeVid}} should be used in cases where there's too many videos, and some have to be relegated to being linked instead of embedded (for load time purposes). The jwp interwiki prefix has been updated. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::::It has occurred to me that {{template|YouTubeVid}} says ''"Videos are currently unavailable on Bulbapedia; instead, you can watch the video on YouTube here."'' However, the embed template does work at this point in time, so they actually are "available". Could YouTubeVid's text be changed somehow? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:49, 20 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::The right thing to do is inform people that the template is deprecated and should be replaced with {{Template|YouTubeEmbed}} or regular links. And {{Template|Ytu}} needs to be deleted since it's not needed anymore. [[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:#4fd9ff">SatoMew</span></b>]] 13:47, 20 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::@Tiddlywinks; I've changed the wording to be specific that the individual videos using YTV aren't available on-wiki, rather than videos in general. | |||
::::::::::@SatoMew2; YTV isn't depreciated. If it was depreciated, it would have the archived template notice on it. It's appropriate to use in cases where a specific video ''shouldn't'' be embedded. {{template|ytu}} is still used in some userspace pages, and doesn't really need to be deleted. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::The only reason I stated it was deprecated is your statement that it's OK to use direct links for videos. Since the only purpose of the template is to embed a YouTube player with some Bulbapedia-esque additions, it makes no sense to keep using it if people are not going to watch videos with it (that's what {{Template|YouTubeEmbed}} is for, after all). There is simply no reason to make this more messy. [[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:#4fd9ff"><span lang="ja">サトミュウ</span> (SatoMew)</span></b>]] 23:19, 24 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Vector skin == | |||
You may or may not be aware but [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector Vector] has become the default MediaWiki skin since 2010. It replaces the old [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:MonoBook MonoBook] that is still used on Bulbapedia. Anyone, particularly non-editors, can use Bulbapedia with Vector ([http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=Vector try it yourself]), effectively getting rid of the ads without registering an account. | |||
My suggestion to you is that you stop using MonoBook and "Bulbafy" Vector so that it becomes the wiki's new look. Here's how [https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor TCRF] looks with Vector since it became their new look a while back ([https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor?useskin=MonoBook old look for comparison]). | |||
Additionally, please get rid of the right-sidebar ads as they continuously break the wiki's layout, especially templates. The pop-up ads at the bottom (like the ones advertising Bulbanews) are obnoxious too. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 23:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:We have no interest at this time to use Vector as our default skin, we're happy with Monobook. As for issues & complaints regarding adverts, you will need to take that up with <span class="plainlinks">[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/members/1.html Archaic on the BMGf]</span>. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:53, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::OK, but could you apply [[Template:Bulba color]] or its variants to the background of both MonoBook and Vector? It will fit with the wiki's identity better. As to the ads, can't you at least enable them for Vector? [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 06:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Changing the background colors of the two skins is quite minor, but we'll consider some options if we have time to spare on it. As for ads, I am not able to add them to Vector, as the ads are handled by our server techs. If you want to suggest ads being on Vector, you will need to go to Archaic. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Shuffkle Reorg So Far == | |||
[[Pokémon Shuffle]] is now down to 48,578 bytes from a peak of 158,052 bytes at 02:25, 5 September 2015. The last edit removed 53,622 bytes for special stage data alone (this does not count the regular and expert stages, which initially removed 41,696 of data to replace it with a table of areas). I do have a concern, once I get around to expanding stage data onto that page (in the manner I'll be expanding the area pages), that the [[Special Stages]] page will itself come close to or exceed the 100,000 bytes mark; this and the large volume of related information is the reason why I determined that Escalation Battle (also now a [[User:CycloneGU/Escalation Battle|userpage]] I will be independently working on to organize information off of the live page for later use on the live page) and Competitive Stage, at a minimum, needed separate pages, and why I wanted to treat Pokémon Safari and The Daily Pokémon as if they were areas due to having 15 and 20 Pokémon respectively. In total, there are 68 unique events, more than twice as many as just stages in either [[Wacky Workshop]] or [[Pedra Valley]]. It's all right for now, and this is a good start, but the expansion will be needed later or we'll have another huge and complex page for users to find their way around when it's fully expanded and with even more events on the page. There will be no problem expanding the table to later include various special stage pages, even those that anchor to a miscellaneous events page, or even creating a separate special stages table with those links, but one thing at a time. =) | |||
Other than configuring data around Escalation Battle, I'll be working now on individual area page expansion and can finally go ahead with updating sidegames data. I'll discuss that project further with Ht14, whom I discussed it with previously, before going through every page; I have all the data already entered into a Notepad document for the first 649 Pokémon and can continue editing 650-719 for any formatting changes. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:04, 5 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Pokemon in South's Asia == | |||
Since you have protected [[Pokémon in South Asia|this page]]... I want to draw you attention toward the changes needed on the page... on 31st August... Hangama TV started airing new episode from where it left... and on 16th September it aired [[AG001]]. Someone has to edit it.[[User:Epsilon Master|Epsilon Master]] ([[User talk:Epsilon Master|talk]]) 06:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:It appears that the mentioned requests have been handled by {{u|abcboy}}. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Creative Commons license == | |||
I'm curious. Is there anything preventing Bulbapedia from updating the license to [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/ its current version] that is [https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_are_the_international_.28.E2.80.9Cunported.E2.80.9D.29_Creative_Commons_licenses.2C_and_why_does_CC_offer_.E2.80.9Cported.E2.80.9D_licenses.3F better suited for international operations] (which Bulbapedia certainly has, otherwise it'd be inaccessible or at least more limited for those [https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=bulbagarden.net outside the US] such as myself)? [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ It is even recommended that the new version of the license be used.] [[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:#4fd9ff">SatoMew</span></b>]] 17:36, 18 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I've passed this onto Archaic, he'll look into it when he is able. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
::OK, thanks. [[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:#4fd9ff"><span lang="ja">サトミュウ</span> (SatoMew)</span></b>]] 23:19, 24 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Template:J== | |||
Would it be possible to make its usage in regular text obligatory or at least recommended? We use it to style Japanese text but I don't know if Bulbapedia is using any particular CSS for it. The most visible advantage of using the template is in Blink-based browsers like Chromium and its derivatives (Google Chrome, Opera, etc.). Take [[Serena's Eevee]] article as an example. Here's how it looks [http://s18.postimg.org/52wu6zxyx/before.png before] and [http://s7.postimg.org/t1zc3rr97/after.png after] styling the Japanese text in the lead with the template. Notice how {{Template|AnimePokémonInfobox}} is already using the same code as {{Template|J}} anyway (the HTML span tag with the lang attribute set to "ja"). This assures that the presentation of the text is consistent. [[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:#4fd9ff"><span lang="ja">サトミュウ</span> (SatoMew)</span></b>]] 23:19, 24 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Trevor, Shauna and Tierno == | |||
Hi, i made this for Kalos rival's in the anime: | |||
* http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Shauna_(XY_series) | |||
* http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Tierno_(anime) | |||
* http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Trevor_(anime) | |||
Is good enough for approval?? You have the power for put in a mainspace?? --[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 14:00, 1 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Pokemon Conquest == | |||
I've picked it up again and wanna ask someone - any hope of [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/pokemon-conquest-templates-170706/ getting this project off the ground] at last? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 14:40, 3 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
== page titles as redirects == | |||
For pages that got their move nominations rejected, would it be okay to leave the pages that were suggested titles as redirects since they aren't going to be moved at anytime? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 22:53, 5 October 2015 (UTC) |
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