Talk:Deoxys (Pokémon)

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Due to special coding in place in the article to illustrate Deoxys's forms, certain displays will change showing Deoxys in its Speed Forme. This will only affect the artwork shown in the infobox, the EV yield shown on the page itself, the anime image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the Pokéathlon stats entry which is unhidden, and the learnset entry which is unhidden. This changes every day, so when the time comes, click here to return to the page and change the display.

Missingno.

I'm not quite sure in Deoxys is supposed to be based of Missingno. or not. Even my Jirachi-is based-off-the-Beanstar theory manages to mak more sense then that.--Pokencyclopedia 13:33, 6 September 2005 (CDT)

Oh, puh-leeze. Deoxys is not based off Missingno. I should know, I'm the self-proclaimed expert on Deoxys. (the key word there being self-proclaimed.) -- PinkDeoxys 15:34, 8 January 2006 (CST)

Not that I added it to the article, but I do somewhat agree that it shares a few traits... the call, kind of... It's like Hypno sounds like Jynx when sped up, only Deoxys you have to play backwards and sped up to make it sound like Missingno.. And the southern island thing. But I dunno, mostly it's just fan speculation unless we go and ask the designers ourselves. Not that I'd imagine they forgot about Missingno. entirely. Tom Temprotran 06:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Deoxys is most likely not based on Missingno.. However, until it can be disproven, it is a valid theory.--Celebi96 02:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Location

How do you obtain Deoxys? Where is it? Also, how do you obtain Jirachi or Mew?

Deoxys requires the ticket(forgot the name). On an island. Jirachi is the Colo bonus disk. Mew requires the old sea chart.

The ticket is called the Aurora Ticket. It was given out at Pokémon Rocks America 2004. -- PinkDeoxys 15:30, 8 January 2006 (CST)

IMO, I think Deoxys is based on it's namesake, DNA. or else viruses, with are just coated proteins like DNA.

Deoxys is based off Deoxyriboneucleic (did I spell that right?) acid, or DNA. Its forms, Defense, Normal, and Attack, form the word DNA. The S in Speed is the last letter of its name. -- PinkDeoxys 15:30, 8 January 2006 (CST)

Transfer from Wikipedia

(Just like the exodus of german scientists to America during World War II!) Since the Wikipedia pokemon articles are in danger of being deleted, I made it my duty to add the info to the Bulbapedia articles from Wikipedia, starting with this one!!! MudkipNDS 19:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)mkds

No worries, you don't have to be so frantic. The old pages are just being redirected; you'll always be able to find old versions of the page through the "history" tab at the top of the page.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 19:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Eggs

It says "no eggs" for the egg group yet specifies a number of steps to hatch. Huh?--SomeoneIKnew 20:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

While it is impossible for a Deoxys egg to exist, every species was given a number of steps to hatch; this information was found through hacking probably. In most cases, impossible eggs are given a ludicrous number of steps anyway.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 21:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not impossible to have it, you just have to hack it. But yes, the hatching steps do come from game data. TTEchidna 04:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The reason Deoxys has an egg step number is to prevent the game crash that happend in Gen II, when people would use cheats to get special eggs the games would crash when a legendary egg is made. This way players could hack legendary eggs without crashing their game. GuyNamedSean 18:29, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

D/P Back sprite

Is it just me or that back sprite looks a little... glitchy? Cause it isn't usual to have a brightly colored outline and then darker colors and shading, but meh. :P TinaTheKirlia ^{♪☆File:Ani281MS.gif} 16:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks as if it was cropped out of a move picture, with a move that slightly changed the area around it. --DarkfireTaimatsu 18:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

It was taken from the original sprite rip which for some reason had this issue for all the Pokémon with form differences. I've fixed it now. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 18:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Possible Error?

My Deoxys is in Attack Form, hit Level 33, and learned Pursuit. The movelist says it should have learned Spikes (which I wanted). Is the movelist wrong? Inker 07:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

You sure it's in Attack form? The other three learn it at 33, so you might be mistaking the form. TTEchidna 08:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

That was indeed an error, and has now been corrected. For the record, this also applies to Taunt, which is Defense Deoxys' exclusive move, rather than Attack Deoxys' (it learns Knock Off along with the other two).

Whoever got the movelist wrong must have done so because he expected the three non-Normal forms to each have four exclusive moves. In truth, Attack Deoxys has two such moves (Superpower and Zap Cannon), Defense Deoxys - six (Spikes, Taunt, Iron Defense, Amnesia, Counter and Mirror Coat), and Speed Deoxys - four (Double Team, Swift, Agility and ExtremeSpeed). --Unown Lord 16:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Shiny Artwork

I just uploaded the shiny artwork for Deoxys, but I'm stuck for placs to put it. File:ShinyDeoxys.png TESHTALKFUN 21:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

..he made shiny Deoxys artwork? ..interesting. :0 Tina ^δ♫ 21:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I've actually found all of the shiny artwork... TESHTALKFUN 21:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ooo.. link please? Tina ^δ♫ 21:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... It's basically just another Pokémon site. Oh and just to let you know it's in french. Pokebip TESHTALKFUN 22:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok... I told a white lie... No all of the Shiny Artwork, but some. XD TESHTALKFUN 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Lol. Seems like it's just recolored in Photoshop or something though, but it's cool to look at :0 Tina ^δ♫ 22:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I like how they have the sprite image halfway through the animation. TESHTALKFUN 22:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm that Shiny art orginally came from Poke Beach. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 22:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

They're all just shooped. No need for shiny Sugimori art of all of these things. The normal art and shiny sprites suffice. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 03:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Youtube Fake video

I've seen a youtube video that shows a trainer catching it in pokemon ruby [1] this video is obviously fake, cause it's a pokemon FireRed hack and the battle script is the same as Ho-oh, but the video ends just as the battle begins. This guy has tricked so many people to do what they see in the video.

should be added info on this? Hfc2x 16:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

There's no need to add information on every fan-made video posted, let alone this one in particular. There are tons of videos just like this on YouTube alone. // SzayelAporroGranzFile:Ani282MS.gif 19:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Deoxys' hand?

Why does Deoxys have a hand in his sprite, but in his artowrk he just has tentacles? Buddy Christ 03:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Ask Game Freak. うずまきハルカ 17:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

It's been assumed that Deoxys can willfully form its tentacles into a hand.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon Ranger confirms this. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 19:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Destiny Deoxys did way before Ranger, fyi.Reign 04:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Aeroblast?

I'm not sure deoxys can legitimately get areoblast even from an event I'm pretty sure thats just a rumor User:ShinyMedicham

Well, first of all, where did you hear that it can get Aeroblast, and second, does that seem like a good source? GuyNamedSean 18:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Gamestop Event

Look at this should this be added under events?--CoolPikachu! 20:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's even on Bulbanews. It should get a mention here.BlueJirachiWishMaker 15:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I am gonna get myself a deoxys. WOOHOOEmperor's Cookies 15:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

You too?BlueJirachiWishMaker 15:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, its the week of my brothers birthdayEmperor's Cookies 15:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so the Deoxys will be a birthday gift?BlueJirachiWishMaker 15:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, a very cheap one =]Emperor's Cookies 16:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if you'll still be able to obtain one even if you have a Deoxys transfered over from Gen III... ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 16:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Since, more or less it will be a Wonder Card, yes. tc26 16:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Someone put in the article that this Deoxys doen's obey its trainer. Maybe Gamestop goofed and forgot to set the flag required for their official Deoxys to obey. Or maybe that guy doesn't have the required badge... hfc2X 02:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I found out today that the National Pokedex is a requirement for this event, in order for the wireless transfer to commence. Kinda wish there were more accurate details on Bulbanews beforehand. -Tyler53841 04:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh, yeah, it's a national Pokémon...and, uh, no offense but did you just get the game or something? It's been out a good year by now...--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't be so rude! The guy is new at Pokémon, like most of us have been... and I also just got Pokémon Pearl, but I have played Pokémon for a long time now (8 years =D) hfc2X 06:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Dang, really? Well. All I can say is, Tyler, if you want that Deoxys there's still next weekend. ...that'll be one hell of a busy week.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 16:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I just got my Deoxys yesterday at Gamestop, so I will give you all the run-down on it's stats:

Name: Deoxys

Lv: 50

Pokédex No.: ???

Type: Psychic

OT: Gamestp

ID No.: 06218

Ball: Cherish

Item: NeverMeltIce

Naive nature.

Jun. 20, 2008

Pokémon Event

Apparantly had a fateful encounter at

Lv. 50

Somewhat vain.

Likes sweet food.

HP: 120/120

Attack: 155

Defense: 57

Sp. Atk: 163

Sp. Def: 61

Speed: 171

Ability: Pressure

Attacks:

Psycho Boost (PP 5/5)

Zap Cannon (PP 5/5)

Iron Defense (PP 15/15)

ExtremeSpeed (PP 5/5)

And all I needed was the Pokédex, so my second Pokémon (after Turtwig) was this Deoxys, thanks to the "Mystery from Space" Event. I picked it up at Sandgem Town WITHOUT the National Pokédex. Of course, it won't listen to me 19 times out of 20, but that's just because I only have one badge. Lord Thunderboom 18:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Forme spelling

Originally, all of Deoxys's different "formes" were thought to be spelled as "form." However, after Giratina's Origin Forme was revealed, fans went back to check Pokémon.com, and the Official Emerald Players guide (published in 2005) to find that "forme" has in fact always been the official spelling"
What exactly does the Player's Guide say? If it's just a random appearance of the word, then my suggestion is revert everything to "Form" until either word appears capitalized in a game, just like "Form" (and never "Forme") appears in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon and Pokémon Ranger. IMO, a Player's Guide or news coverings can't be trusted more than the released games themselves. To be fair, the Prima guides also spell it "forme", but still, it's just paper. Super Smash Bros. Brawl spells it "forme", too, but without a capital "F". --Johans 18:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

So let me get this right - Prima, a player's guide, the official Pokédex website AND Super Smash Bros. Brawl use "forme" and you still think that the official terminology is "form"? It clearly isn't. Cipher 18:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

My point was that Pokémon Ranger and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon spell them "Form", with a capital "F", in the text of the game. They are Pokémon games, more mainstream than any Super Smash Bros. game will ever be, and more digital than any guide will ever be. Bulbapedia is intended to be leaned a bit more toward in-game data from what I know. I remember Zhen Lin telling me to fix the "Electric Squirrel" words and place Pachirisu's species name as "EleSquirrel" for example.

Politoed666, I don't get why my change was reverted specifically here. The current table about Mystery Dungeon is using the in-game spelling, so I was doing the same, in the Pokémon Ranger side game data section, with the names of the Deoxys "formes" (if you wish, outside of the context) as they appear in Pokémon Ranger as mentioned by Solana and Spencer. --Johans 19:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

This is a page from Nintendo's Pokémon Emerald Players guide. [2]

As you can see from the image above, it is not an error, forme is the proper spelling. Trainer-c 18:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope in the future everybody takes into account the dates in which different spellings appear, though (I suppose that's 2005). --Johans 19:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Woah, BIG image. Link amended. Cipher 20:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope in the future everybody takes into account the dates in which different spellings appear, though (I suppose that's 2005).

Yup. The guide is from May of 2005 when Emerald was released. And further proof that forme is the proper spelling has shown up in the Deoxys event info at the Pokémon website today. Trainer-c 20:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I appreciate you ^_^. We should archive the link for future non-believers: http://www.pokemon.com/#news_/XML/news_265.xml --Johans 21:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Changing Problem

How Do we change the Move list?I've found that you can't put a small specific word(such as FR) to that specific forme moves(for the example word must be FRLG) also I checked many website found that Taunt is a Attack Forme only move.--(since English is not my mother language...there may be have grammer mistake) --chungkingpunノ14:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh oh, youre right =) hfc2X 02:40, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

That's easy. I set it up for Deoxys's formes. Instead of FR/LG/E/RS, just put the form of the Pokémon. Attack Deoxys learns a move, put Attack. TTEchidna 05:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks,should the move list like now??--chungkingpunノ12:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Art in the infobox

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? TTEchidna 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Well? TTEchidna 02:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm all for combining them, but wouldn't that make the images a tad small? ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 15:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

No need to force the image to be small... It could be high-res and clickable. TTEchidna 23:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Seems to me that it's a good idea TTEchinda... If some one here knows how to do that. GuyNamedSean 18:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Why is it only Attack Forme now? It was fine before when it showed all the formes. Maybe we could do the same thing with this page that the Arceus page has; make it so that each time the page is refreshed it changes the displayed forme.--Celebi96 02:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Deoxys changes every day when the page is refreshed, Arceus every second, Giratina every hour and Shaymin is in its Sky Forme during the hours that it is allowed to be in the games. Also, I think that Unown will change every second like Arceus when we find more artwork (if any exists).--MisterE13 02:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's possible with Unown. There isn't any other artwork.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 07:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I see, thank you. But it is still a little fuzzy, like someone mentioned. I don't know how to correct that, though. Does anyone have a larger image of the official artwork?--Celebi96 11:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, Rotom now changes with the days of the week: Saturday and Sunday are Normal, Monday is Heat, Tuesday is Wash, Wednsday is Frost, Thursday is Spin and Friday is Cut.--MisterE13 02:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Can it be fixed so the moveset shows the forme-exclusive moves? ^ht14 14:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there any possible way to fix the quality of the Defense artwork, or get a better version of it? —βetA ZerØ 07:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, didn't see the discussion about it below...>_> —βetA ZerØ 07:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

GenIII Backsprites

I always thought we could have the sprites cycle through the ones available in each game like the Arceus sprite does on it's page (the GenIII backsprites being a good example). We could even do this for all multi-formed Pokémon - unsigned comment from MisterE13 (talk • contribs)

For Arceus it is ok, 'cause it has many forms in the same game, but it's not the case for Deoxys (as in Gen III has different forms for different games), so all of them must be shown at the same time.

And another thing... if you want to start a new section on a Talk Page, click on the + at the top and sign your user name with ~~~~. hfc2X 18:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I forgot. I just meant instead of cramming all four backsprites into sections of the box, it could cycle the way the Arceus sprite near the top of the page does. I was also thinking that we could do that for the GenIV ones because you can get all 4. We could also do it with Castform, Cherrim, Arceus, Unown, Burmy, Wormadam, Giratina, Shaymin, Rotom... The sprites could even cycle whenever the moving (Emerald + GenIV) sprites animation finishes.MisterE13 19:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I meant this one

File:Arceus Formes.gifMisterE13 19:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

That would be an epic pain. Plus, the only way to do that would be to change the nice, crisp pngs into crappy 256-color gifs, so everyone could see them. And that's a definite no. Anipngs would be for the animation of the sprites, not for showing all of them. The way we've got it is just fine, as far as I'm concerned, since you can click the images anyway to get to the fullsize versions. And we're not doing one of those stupid gifs for everyone. TTEchidna 19:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

"Forme" trivia

The trivia section currently states "fans went back to check Pokémon.com, and the Official Emerald Players guide (published in 2005) to find that "forme" has in fact always been the official spelling". However, this user says that the official FireRed/LeafGreen guide (published in 2004) uses "form", so apparently the "forme" spelling hasn't been "always official". abwayax (t/c) 00:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and change that piece of trivia, since I see no objections. abwayax (t/c) 00:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

What is the point of the trivia stating, "In its Generation III Normal Forme sprite, its arm is on its right side, while in Generation IV the arm is on its left. Additionally, in Generation III, it only is shown with four fingers, while in Generation IV, it has five."? The animé (yes that is how you are supposed to spell it), and Sugomori art show that Normal Forme Deoxys can twist the arm-tentacles together to form a "humanoid" arm. Doesn't that meen that it should be able to have an arm on either side, and probably change the finger number? GuyNamedSean 23:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Then go and add that part to the trivia. hfc2X 01:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Horrible fuzzy pictures!

Why is the Deoxys picture used at the top of article always enlarged, so that it is horribly pixelated? I think it would be better just to make it smaller, which I would do if I knew how, but I'm not very familiar with Wiki code. Taromon777 20:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I've been wondering that too, but I don't have any artwork to replace it with. Also, is there a reason that the Speed Forme sprite in the Gen III evolution line is the one from Gen IV? It looks out of place since the Normal, Attack, and Defense Forme sprites there are from Gen III.--Celebi96 15:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

It's because the only Speed GenIIIwe have moves, which would look even more out of place. Feel free to upload another.--MisterE13 15:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, let me see if I can crop a sprite from somewhere. I'm not familiar with the code, though, so it may take me a few tries to make it work...--Celebi96 14:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I found a sprite at PKMN.net. We are allowed to use it, since it's a sprite, right? I don't know how to upload it, though.--Celebi96 14:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Color change

Has anyone else noticed that Deoxys's Gen III sprites are different colors than its Gen IV sprites? Its Gen III sprites are orange, while its Gen IV sprites are darker and more reddish. Should this be added to the trivia?--Celebi96 13:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

No...it's not important...because it's the same color. -Sketch 13:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it's darker in Gen IV, if you compare the back sprites. Also, the gem in its chest is a different color in Emerald than it is everywhere else; it's pink in Emerald, but purple in all other games and formes, even its Gen IV Speed Forme. And is it just me or is its gem bigger in its Defense Forme than in its other formes?--Celebi96 17:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Trivia error?

This might be me being stupid, but the trivia says "Deoxys was the first Pokémon to have its own unique battle music", but didn't Suicune in Pokémon Crystal have unique music when you battled it? I haven't played Pokémon Crystal in a while, so I might be wrong. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 18:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I think Suicune's music was shared with Entei and Raikou, as before this, all Pokémon had the same wild encounter theme. Deoxys was the first to have its own music, without sharing. — THE TROM — 21:22, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I know it was shared in Gold and Silver, but I think it might have been different in Crystal. I'm not 100% sure though. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 15:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

No, the trio all definitely had the same music in Crystal. —βetA ZerØ 07:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Formes between games

Just asking, if I have a Speed forme of Deoxys in Emerald, and I trade it to FireRed, will it still have his Speed forme or will it change to FireRed's forme? If the answer is the second option, shouldn't this be in the article? --Dr. James 15:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

The second option is true. Turtwig A Contributions Talk 15:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Deoxys in the Anime

Looking back, that was a pretty bad edit. Long, rambly, save for grammar, spelling, and capitalization. Still, someone should do something, it is not right as it is. The purple Deoxys did not just appear and go to Larousse city, it was in the same meteor as the green Deoxys. Rayquaza did not simply appear out of nowhere either, it had a previous battle and current motive to track down and attack the Deoxys. Worst of all, it wasn't because Emerald had not come out yet that the Speed forme had not appeared in the movie, it was because it had not been created yet. It had come out in Emerald because by that time, they had made Speed forme Deoxys and needed a third generation game to contain that data. Can someone correct this while keeping it short?--QX Deoxys 00:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

New picture?

I believe that we should use a different picture for Deoxys. I don't mean to nitpick, but the picture we have up right now is a tad pixilated and shows only one Forme (Defense). I've found a clearer picture that shows all four of Deoxys' formes (Speed, Attack, and Normal, as well as Defense). So, what say you? Link 486 16:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

No, that looks pretty ugly tbh. Also, read the notice at the very top of this talk page. 梅子^❄_❅ 16:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Forme Change

In heartgold and soulsilver. How do you do it? SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 17:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Route 3. Just like the article says. There are rocks on Route 3, similar to the ones in Veilstone. ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 18:02, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Fake Groudon

Is it just me, or does Fake Groudon look like a Deoxys forme? He has the tentacles, the colours, but no one seems to see it but me... - unsigned comment from Megadog (talk • contribs)

There's not enough similarity to even think about mentioning it. When I commented on similarities between the Lake Trio and the GSDS prefixes on the GSDS talk page, I got shot down, hard. That had a bit more substance than this. Also, your attempt at actually writing it into trivia had multiple errors. Finally, sign when you post on talk pages. All it takes is four ~s. --エルレイド 05:57, 2 May 2010 (UTC)