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  Porygon-Z 01:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)  

Hey there

Great work!! CuboneKing 04:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, you are awesome. CuboneKing 00:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

In what ways am I awesome, exactly? Additionally...if you are good with coding, I would like you to help me properly format the article I created, on the book 'Prize Pokémon'. Steph 01:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikicode is like a second language to me. I'm just bad with templates. I'll help. Just do your amazing edits and I'll be there to format! :D CuboneKing 01:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually, that article didn't need much editing. It now only needs a synopsis. Great work creating it. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 01:06, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
You can add that on, I'll be there to format for you. CuboneKing 01:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Keep it up! CuboneKing 18:52, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Hey, just saying, you're really good at adding details! CuboneKing 04:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, CuboneKing. I appreciate such cheering comments, and it brightened my day. Do you know when there shall be the awarding of the monthly awards? Are there any particular species articles you are aware of that need more detail? Steph 14:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Actually, they are passed out quarterly, they should be coming out in maybe February. Maybe you could look at the Cubone and Paras articles. Keep it up! CuboneKing 01:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Polite Response

Hello CuboneKing. I am frankly rather impressed that someone who has done so many edits is speaking to me. It is exciting. Although I am polite in replying to you (because the manual said it was polite to do so) I promised myself that I would only have an 'about me' page when I reached thirty-five contributons (and I need to do ten more for that). So, I suppose I bent my philosophy to be courteous. Additonally...I have a Pokémon Reader picture book with me. Is that appropriate to create a suitable article for? Also, is information derived from 'The Complete Pokémon Pocket Guide' suitable to add to species pages? Steph 04:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the late response. I see a great user in you :D As for the book, that would probably be a TTE question. I'd say yes, but... CuboneKing 02:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually it would be a better question here as that covers books. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Your adding info on the Pokedex entries... good! Keep it up, we need more stuff for [email protected] and Linnoone (sp?), etc. You made Zigzagoon very happy. lol, keep adding stuff that needs adding. :) -LūgīāRōcks (Tālk δ Ēdīts) 20:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Asking Turtwig A’s Help

Since your own talk page has much more important priorities to discuss, and because the second section of this would mean my questions are not befitting to put in the Merchandise Talk Page, I ask you (Turtwig A) my questions here. I have checked the Project Merchandise To-do List, and realized that the article (with much help from you) that I created, Get Well, Pikachu!, has been listed as needing a summary. Not only is the meaning of a summary not mentioned or included in the articles for the books, but, if a summary means a synopsis, Get Well, Pikachu! seems to have a suitable synopsis. On this matter, I ask if you could clarify the difference or, if that does not seem a suitable action to perform, that you clarify what exactly I can do to remove some of the articles off the To-do List, completing them or otherwise completing them properly.

Additionally, is it particularly useful to check pages, such as species pages, for spelling mistakes and fix them or are automated bots already working on that, thus rendering my actions useless? Since I frequently work on the Biology sections of the species pages, is Physiology actually meant to include mannerisms and natures or have I placed the sentences in question into Behavior improperly? Steph 00:44, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

You can put it on my talk page, it doesn't really have any important priorities to discuss. Anyways, synopsis and summary are synonyms so that just means that the page hasn't been updated yet and that you should update it. As for removing articles off of the list, all you have to do is create the article and add the synopsis to it. For the spelling mistakes, there are no bots working there so it'd be great if you could change that. For that last question, I don't know as I don't usually edit the biology sections. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 00:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


Hey, i'm just messaging u to tell you i think what you do, add more data to the Pokemon pages by the Pokedex entries is so awesome. I would have never thought of it. Great job! And if you need help, you can message me and i'll try my best to answer any questions you have. Littlmiget123 03:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


when copying and pasting articles, be sure to change everything as in Raichu Shows Off you forgot to change the previous book and next book. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 00:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I was planning on doing that. But, of course you would not have known that, so, thank you for reminding me anyway. I shall attend to that now. - unsigned comment from Steph (talkcontribs)

Link template

[[Ash]] is a redirect to Ash Ketchum, whereas {{Ash}} links to Ash Ketchum. ht14 03:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. The template confused me, but now I am glad I have this in mind to properly apply the character listings. Steph 03:15, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


Hi! Thanks for all your work on the books/merch :D anyways, could you do me a huge favour? If you "discover" a new book, would you mind adding it to Template:Books (or Template:AnimeBooks if it's a chapter book) as well as the List of Pokémon books? Thank you soooo much :) -ZestyCactus 20:11, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the acknowledgement, Zesty Cactus. It brightened my day. Yes, if I happen to "discover" a new book (I regret not buying an apparently "unknown" Pokémon book at a recent book fair..) and figure out how to edit the template, I will do so. Additionally...some years ago, I acquired a 'comic' based on Mewtwo Strikes Back. I shall find it and check if it is relevant to the Pokémon: The First Movie (ani-manga) article, and if it is (which it most likely is) I shall add any relevant information. If possible...can you add the book template to the Giratina and the Sky Warrior (graphic novel--ani-manga) and make some sort of template compromise for both the English and Japanese editions? Steph 20:24, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
There are many books Bulbapedia doesn't have articles about, such as How To Draw the Newest Pokémon. I'm in the process of compiling them. Also, thanks for expanding the article on merchandise that's on a subpage of mine. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
After looking through Amazon, these books don't seem to have articles and aren't on the template:
  1. Deluxe Activity Book: Sinnoh Edition
  2. How To Draw the Newest Pokémon
  3. Pokémon Stickedex
  4. Super Sinnoh Sticker Book
  5. Save The Shieldon
  6. Create and Trace Sinnoh Heroes
  7. All-New Collector's Sticker Book
  8. Become a Pokémon Trainer
  9. Welcome to Sinnoh Activity Book
  10. World'S Best Pokemon Drawing Book
  11. Pokémon Top 10 Handbook
  12. Pokémon Activity Book
  13. You Can Be a Pokémon Master Artist
  14. Pokemon: Greatest Battles

I only looked through 15 of the pages so there are probably a couple more. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

There probably are further unlisted books. It would seem logical to try to add red-links to them on the template, however it cannot be told if they are anime-based simply by their titles (which is to say, some of them may be like Meet Ash, which are not part of a series but anime-based, and I do not want to place the red-links in the wrong sections), so you may have to search for further information--such as if their covers feature Ash---in order for a decision to be made on where to put them.
Also, I have the book Bye, Bye Butterfree from the Pokémon Adventure Series, but I am not sure if a separate article should be made, instead of placing it on the article for the series itself. Additionally, I have currently been unable to find my aforementioned Pokémon: The First Movie book.
Most recently, however, I am compelled to try to add information to the (featured) stub, Dragon Holy Land, (as to balance my work on the user namespace lately, such as my talk page and your subpage) so this may need to wait. Steph 00:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Your Mewtwo Strikes Back comic, if you ever find it, probably is the ani-manga, so if you do find it... that article sucks, you can help it ;) (although you may have one of four individual "issues"? They liked doing that back in the day)
I'm familiar with a few of those books as we carry them at the toy store where I work. I'll add them to the Template:Books for you, and you can sort of learn by example, if you will. You're welcome to edit the template any time, though!
I dunno what I want to do with the Pokémon Adventure Series (I have Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon) since they're so short and hardly notable at all on their own... I was thinking about doing something like the Pokémon Tales article, so you could add the info for Bye Bye Butterfree and I could do Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon. I can get on that tonight, probably.
P.S. If you've been working on "mainspaceable userspace" (i.e. something in the userspace that's intended to eventually make it to the mainspace) you don't really have to worry about "balancing" it, although that's not a bad thing to do anyways :) thanks again for all your help! --ZestyCactus 00:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I added all but 3 of them to the template. Could someone place them in the template they belong in? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 00:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I'll get on that. I might reorganize the template a little too, as you suggested. --ZestyCactus 00:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
BTW, Steph, I added information for Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon to Pokémon Adventure Series. I'm sort of hoping to have the other three books covered similarly - since you own the Bye Bye Butterfree book, would you mind doing that section for me? Thank you ^^ --ZestyCactus 01:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I will make the synopsis for Bye Bye Butterfree now--and, since it both involves books (as a source) and the Pokémon in question, would data from The Complete Pokémon Pocket guide be official enough to include on the species pages? For example, it has been well known that Butterfree has a superior ability to find nectar, but how it does this has not been hinted at in other sources. However, the book states that Butterfree is able to locate nectar by smell. On the Pokémon Adventure Series page, excellent work putting them all there--but, please do not use acronyms (such as BTW) around me. 'By the way' so much better. Steph 03:07, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I'll try and keep that in mind, I just use shorthand/acronyms so often that it's hard not to, haha. :P But I'll try not to when I message you if it bugs you.
As for the Pocket Guide stuff, I don't know 100% how canon the books are considered, so for now I would just add any interesting tidbits to the Trivia sections on the species pages since I don't know if it's kosher to add it to the actual biology/special abilities/etcetera secions. So a good trivia line would be like (stealing your example), "According to The Complete Pokémon Pocket Guide, Butterfree are able to locate nectar by smell". (or you could just ask a random administrator what he/she thinks of the canonocity of the Pocket Guides) --ZestyCactus 04:25, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I was thinking, do the Book references really belong in Trivia? They may be more suitable in the opening paragraph but I don't know. I'm used to trivia being "did you know" kinda things >> Emp 19:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I think that they would more belong in Trivia (books are not important enough to mention in the opening paragraph, at least in the current sense). However, it was Turtwig A who first started this (putting references to derived books in Episode Trivia--starting with the first, second, and third episodes) so you should ask them. Steph 19:56, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


See here. ht14 21:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Bad me. Sorry.....your 'Help' pages were requesting a picture, so I briefly forgot about that particular article....but, in that case, "unable to battle" would not need a picture. Would a picture of a fainted Pokémon (from a Pokétch app) work instead for the "Fainted" article? There is a picture of it in the archives...well, I hope my contribution was not totally pointless, for it is true that depositing one's Pokémon in the PC would heal them. Gah, I feel like I did something wrong....Steph 21:18, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
No worries. Maybe a fainted status would work fine. ht14 21:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

What is your focus?

I.E. What do you work on most at BP? Games, anime, manga, TCG, WikiGnoming, or something else? Just wondering. ht14 16:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

(Beware, my answers may be wordy) Well, my vocation has always been the species pages (Project Pokédex, so to speak), improving and adding information to the Biology sections (such as Physiology). However, since I have completed at least 80% of the Biology sections that were initially lacking, it seems I am done in that area. Since I have collected many (but not the most, apparently..) Pokémon books in time past, I have added information to the Books section of Project Merchandise as well, and added synopsises for the Pokémon Reader---Get Well Pikachu, etc.-- books.(because, as they are short and have comparatively less details compared to other, longer books, making synopsies for them are fairly easy). Once I "discover" further books that are not already listed, I add them.
I do correct small formatting, grammar, and spelling mistakes, but although I essentially am one I prefer not be called a 'gnome' (I find it offending...), and I try to make the stylistic edits only a supplement to more important contributions. I do make the occasional edit to the anime section, but editing there is not truly my vocation, and merely because, due to its sheer size, there are many stubs in it to be improved. Steph 16:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. (Wow, I sound like an interviewer...) ht14 16:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Featured Stubs

I had to put back the stub notice you removed because featured stub notices may only be removed by admins. I think this is because only admins can change the featured stub, though I can't be sure. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

It does say that, yes. The page will no longer be a stub when we have an image of the place, but until then... MaverickNate 22:04, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
(My reply is rather wordy...)All:I am glad that my error has not produced any issues. Speaking of stubs that should not be classified as such, I will shortly remove the stub status of the anime episode Snow Way Out (since there seems to be a quite suitable amount of information to deserve this re-classification).
Maverick Nate: A request I made for a 'this article needs pictures', (or something of the sort) template is meant to specifically indicate such Location Stubs as that needing pictures. (I suppose my request for it to be implemented has been revived?)
Turtwig A:Additionally, please check your user talk: For in the informing of Turtwig A. I have been waiting for you to respond, as today I have been able to locate something that may enable me to add some information to a book article. Steph 22:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I checked it right before you left this message. The article needs pictures thing could instead be a category from an infobox. It would certainly help those looking for places that need pictures. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:21, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

User Page

Hey Steph, I've notice your contributions a lot since joining (good work by the way), and I'm wondering why you don't have your own user page yet ^^; --Emp 19:21, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

At first, it was because I was so respecting of the user-edits restrictions, so I would only allow myself to add a userpage when I reached thirty (that is, useful mainspace) edits. However, I have since then thought that I will only allow myself a userpage once I acquire an award--top four of 'most contributions of the month', bronze Pikachu/Bulbasaur/etc. I will only make a trophy hall when there is an actual trophy to display, so to speak. Steph 19:29, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
That sounds reasonable, good luck with that Steph! Although I wouldn't call a member space just a trophy case. It lets people know a little about yourself, I don't know >> I'm trying to help out a lot myself but I'm still finding it hard keeping to the wiki-style of writing. I guess I can just help out where I'm needed and more experienced members can fine-tune any contributions I make. Whilst I'm here, how do you get one of those contribution trophies? I'm guessing nominations have something to do with it? ^^; --Emp 21:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Cutting in here. Ok, listen up. Number one: It's not nomination. Number two: if you're only aiming to get the reward template ("trophy" as you call it), then the motive is wrong... ht14 02:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
That is true, Ht14. Maybe I am misrepresenting my intentions--obviously, the point of such things is to mark users that are willing to contribute more than just information to Bulbapedia (versus just doing it for 'fame', or a related concept), so indeed the motive would be incorrect if I just wanted the trophy/reward template, instead of my ultimate goal being the improving of Bulbapedia in general, 'rewarded' or not. So, it is always possible that my userpage will never be created, one way or another, but that is fine with me. Still, I shall continue with my efforts to improve Bulbapedia in the ways that I am good at doing, and hope that I have not offended you in any way. Steph 02:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Eh, just reading this. I actually think this is a mature way to handle the relationship between userspace edits and mainspace edits. It's nice to see someone with the self-restraint to make substantial contributions to the mainspace before making themselves a huge userpage. At the same time, I have to say that prowling RC and seeing people without userpages does make me more likely to cross-check their edits for correctness. By now, since I often see you on RC, I'd say you've done enough to warrant a userpage for yourself. ^^;;; But then again, that's your decision. --ニョロトノ666 20:28, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
That is rather flattering (and kind) of you, Politoed666, to say that. Yes, it is my decision---and I certainly look forward to the day I fufill my self-imposed policy and make myself a userpage (after official commeration of my consummate efforts, as to avoid negative connotations). Also, I have noticed you were asking if anyone possessed any simple projects that do not involve much coding on your talk page. To be more relevant to a header topic, I shall give you an offer that may pertain to your aforementioned requirements shortly. Steph 20:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


One space is enough after infoboxes. Any more, and the text will be lower than the start of the page and the top of the infobox. MaverickNate 23:50, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh. I was not aware that this was an issue. So....would you advise that I ensure the paragraph starts immediately after the infobox (with no spacing)? Or, otherwise could you give me a compare-and-contrast between a model anime-location article and one with my mistake on it, so I would better see the thing I did incorrectly? Steph 23:54, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
this edit to Yellow Rock Isle and what I did immediately after it. (I assume you can look at the different revisions) Notice how your revision leaves the opening sentence jagged with the start of the infobox? The proper amount is what I left in the coding. It is generally a good idea to separate the infobox with the opening sentence, but not ecstatically. Break them apart so that they are separate in the coding, but not enough to separate them on the actual page. But otherwise, good job. MaverickNate 00:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


I've noticed that you've been starting many talk page sections with a colon. The proper way to start a section is with no colon, and a colon is to be added with each new comment. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:07, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I suppose I took your advice on adding colons to messages too seriously, and thus used them incorrectly. Thank you for informing me of its proper usage. Steph 02:15, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

different wording

I am neutral on this matter. This is because many of the book articles are currently inconsistent. Please leave the wording as is for now and I'll bring up the matter on the project talk page. I'll also try to make a policy to make the articles consistent. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Turtwig A. I shall leave the wording on the intros be for the moment until the optimal wording is able to be decided on the Project talk page, and I am glad a consistency policy shall be decided.
Incidentally, I noticed that the green banner that appears on the top of the page when one's talk page is edited by someone else has changed. Would you have any idea why this is? (I liked the previous one more.) Steph 02:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
I haven't seen any difference. I saw the same bulb and green background. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Article pics

I just want to let you know that I managed to just about clear both lists and get pics for those location articles and the header pics. There's 4 locations that were never seen in the anime so it just isn't possible to get pics for the ones still on the list.--Hmdwgf 07:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Excellent work! Obviously we are not going to get pictures for locations never seen in the anime, so they might as well have the categories removed. Steph 14:19, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I was going to ask you about that. --Hmdwgf 17:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

High Voltage Collection

Are all of the videos as you know in the Johto region or are they widespread throughout the original series? Do you also know the names of all of the videos? If you do know, I could put some more research into these things. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 00:32, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Some (or possibly all, I am not sure but most likely) can be found with their information on Amazon, so that should help. Yes, all of the ones I have found, and most likely all of them, are from the series in the Johto region, not widespread. Amazon also the names for the three-episode cassettes---I shall list them: (in no particular order, since Amazon's order is not the most precise) Big Air (Vol. 58, 2003), The Moonlight Showdown (Vol. 53, 1998), Fire and Ice (Volume 54, 2002), The Quest for the Hidden Temple (Vol. 55, 1998), and Learning to be the Very Best (Vol. 57, 2003). I could procure the episodes encompassed within them momentarily, but would this be a helpful start? Steph 01:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes. Are the numbers random or are there more than 50 volumes in the collection? Later edit: In most of the research I can't find High Voltage Collection information, but I found volume 59: Tea'd Off and the episodes in it. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 12:18, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

About the epicode change

I've asked already and they said it was okay, since they're in the process of moving those old epicode formats to the new ones. Jello 05:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I suppose I was suffering from an aversion to red links---(Dr. Brown's article is on my watchlist). Would you be able to tell me why it is SS now, through? Steph 05:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Bulbapedia:Epicode, I think it may have been to due to the new Ranger special, just because the new format name fits better. So basically its H### → SS###. Jello 05:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


Now, regarding the popsicles, are you sure you didn't mean these or were you referring to a second type of popsicle? :S they sound really similar. --ZestyCactus 05:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we talked about it here. But I just realized that the link is a STICKER and not a BOX (how did I miss that!?). Therefore, I'm inclined to believe that this was a sticker used to advertise the sale of Popsicle Pokémon singles in a store, as they WERE for sale singly. There also seems to be an area to write in the price. With all this, I'm going to remove it. Virtual-Z 06:00, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


Hey. The position of the reference you added to the 2009 cereal was fine. But do you have any links to the 2008 version you speak of? I can't find anything on it. Virtual-Z 03:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I do have a link. It must have been confusing for you that I did not provide one earlier. Unfortunately, it proves difficult to give a link to you now, as I first found the link whilst browsing on a different computer. I will most probably have to wait until I have access to that other computer before I add links to the 2008 version. Additionally...I plan to archive my talk page soon, so could you tell me how to do it? Steph 03:50, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
To archive your talk page just click "move" at the top (up by history, edit, and so on) and move it to User talk:Steph/Archive 1 (or whatever you want to call it). Then you go back to User talk:Steph and remove the redirect and then link to the archive. I hope my instructions made sense :S --ZestyCactus 03:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Right on. It also is a good idea to add {{Template:TalkArchive}} to the top of the archive. Virtual-Z 03:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Found it! Oddly I was checking that particular site repeatedly but was not observant enough to notice it before....<>. Soon as the link is added to the article, I should proceed to archiving my talk page. Steph 05:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I will add it in a bit (doing a sorta big user page edit right now). You can still archive this, though; I can still access the link. Virtual-Z 05:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)