Talk:Dynamax

Latest comment: 18 March by Storm Aurora in topic Dynamax Dragonite Trivia

Gigantamax article in here or seperate?

I don't know, but Gigantamax in seperate article or here?Kirsten Thomas (talk) 23:53, 8 July 2019 (UTC) Kirsten ThomasReply

The way I see it can go two ways. 1, we combined both into one page as the both one but different from each or 2, make a sprat so that it is easy to find and related section. As Gigantamax is now just like the case with Ultra Burst and Primal Reversion.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 00:18, 9 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
From what I can tell it seems to be simply a stronger variant, rather than an entirely separate mechanic. I think we should put Gigantamax information here FOR NOW, and then if when the games come out it seems to be different enough to warrant its own page, we can make that call when we cross that bridge. Besides, this page is a little bit on the small side. --celadonk (talk) 00:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
I second this option. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:22, 9 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Intro Change

I feel that the first sentence should be rewritten slightly. The way it is written could be read as saying that only Gen 8 Pokémon can use it. --HoennMaster 03:20, 16 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

While I do see what you mean, the image automatically contradicts that assumption. Kai * the Arc Toraph 17:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
I understand what Hoenn Master means. The part that says
"Dynamax (Japanese: ダイマックス Daimax) is a temporary transformation affecting Pokémon that was introduced in Generation VIII"
could be rewritten to say
"Dynamax (Japanese: ダイマックス Daimax) is a temporary transformation that was introduced in Generation VIII"
instead. I think that would alleviate the problem.--celadonk (talk) 17:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

More Dynamax information

So this video link https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=5SlzAXoO6CE, revled more information on Dynamax. The Dynamaxed Pokémon is a visual projection. And the Pokémon is in the actual projection. Should this be added in?--Jacob Kogan (talk) 18:12, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Gigantamax?

Why is Gigantamaxing not mentioned on here at all?? Nutter Butter (talk) 20:05, 16 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Because it has its own article? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 01:40, 17 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
It's a highly related mechanic. It should at least be mentioned here, regardless of whether it has its own article or not. --celadonk (talk) 12:56, 19 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hard numbers

We have hard numbers on how much of a max HP increase Dynamax gives you now.

At Dynamax Level 0, the boost is only 50% more. You can feed your Pokemon a Dynamax Candy to increase its Dynamax Level by 1, to a maximum of 10. For every Dynamax Level your Pokemon has, it will gain 5% more max HP, up to doubling its HP at Dynamax Level 10. Fennaixelphox (talk) 16:36, 7 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Regular moves?

I noticed that at least the Pokémon you get to fight one-on-one after becoming Champion can use regular moves (I assume base moves to the Max Moves they're using; I saw Haxorus use four different base moves and three corresponding Max Moves). When this is fully understood (and maybe it already is to others?), the article should reflect that. Nescientist (talk) 17:08, 9 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Magic Bounce + Parting Shot?

Since it seems that dynamaxed pokemon are immune to being switched out unless it is a voluntary decision, I wonder what happens if a dynamaxed pokemon uses Parting Shot due to magic bounce. Does the pokemon stay in? Are they forced to switch out? We need to answer that question.

2nd Slash (talk) 21:27, 15 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Nevermind guys, I found out myself. Turns out that it DOES end up switching out the dynamaxed pokemon. Let me just go add that reak quick... 2nd Slash (talk) 13:23, 25 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Pain Split explanation (What is "non-Dynamax HP"?)

Is it equal to the Pokémon's current HP minus however much their max HP increased by Dynamaxing? Is it something else?

  • Assuming the former: Suppose a Dynamax Pokémon doubled its HP, and then got down to less than half health. Now its "non-Dynamax HP" is negative. Does this actually contribute a negative value to Pain Split's HP total? Can this cause fainting?

If I'm not the only one confused by this, the language there might warrant some clarification. If I am, uh, oops sorry I dumb. Also, the Pain Split page doesn't mention this yet... but I can't really edit that page myself since I don't quite know what to say on it.

Pichugetic (talk) 11:45, 8 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Pokémon Masters EX

I think the section for Pokémon Masters EX is getting a bit too big. Should we put it in its own page like we did with Mega Evolution for Masters?

We could also separate the Gigantamax Pokémon and move them to the Gigantamax page and only keep the Pokémon who only Dynamax on this page. It would make the section smaller. Plus this page barley shows Gigantamax Pokémon except for the cards from the TCG. TBR2001 (talk) 23:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Works for me. Landfish7 03:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Merge list with the VMAX list

So, that list of Dynamax cards...

Okay, so there's all kinds of gaps in it, but hear me out here: why bother filling them in? Because we're treating Gigantamax and Eternamax as subsets of Dynamax, that list is just a list of every VMAX card, only in alphabetical order. Personally, I much prefer a complete list with a fixed sorting method than having both a complete list with a fixed sorting method and an incomplete list with a different fixed sorting method. Why would anyone want to use an incomplete list, and who would want to fix the incomplete list when the other page has a complete list.

Long story short, I think removing the list of this page and directing people on this page to the Pokémon V page that has a list of VMAX cards makes more sense than maintaining two lists with exactly same contents. Salmancer (talk) 13:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would also be okay with removing the Gigantamax and Eternamax entries. Then it's not a duplicate of the VMAX list. Salmancer (talk) 20:02, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm going to remove the Cards with Gigantamax and Eternamax in them, as the rest of this page doesn't show the Gigantamax and Eternamax forms. As the Gigantamax and Eternamax page should only show their respective forms. TBR2001 (talk) 02:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Suggestion: Having a short summary of VMax on this page, then something along the lines of "for more information, redirect here". Maybe removing the table on this page (and sidestepping having to update it /hj). Welkamo (talk) 17:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Move to Dynamax Phenomenon

Well, I don't see any discussion on this suggestion, so I might as well start it off. I agree that this page ought to be moved to "Dynamax phenomenon" in keeping with the way we have the page outlining Terastallization as "Terastal phenomenon." There seems to be enough in-game support for this, and it's consistent with its successor mechanic's page. Any further support for this move? Opposition? Dougbro1 (Talk) 22:13, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hmm, my instinct is to oppose the move because "Dynamax" is synonymous with "Dynamax phenomenon", so they're equally acceptable names for the page and it's easier to stick with what we already have. But while that's what the page claims, I'm struggling to actually think of a situation where the two terms can be used interchangeably. I'm gonna go do some research on how the term is actually used in-game and report back. Storm Aurora (talk) 01:18, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Okay, I'm back with receipts! So the term "Dynamax" is used in canon in a few different ways: as a verb ("When wild Pokémon Dynamax, they become incredibly powerful."), as an adjective ("It's frustratin' that we weren't able to go toe-to-toe with a Dynamax Pokémon for longer..."), and as a noun ("That was an impressive Dynamax... It washed me clean away!"). The term "Dynamax phenomenon", on the other hand, is exclusively used as a noun and always with a definite article ("The Dynamax phenomenon is caused by a special power that originates from within Pokémon, warping the space around them and making them appear far larger than they truly are."). So, the reason they're not usually interchangeable is that they're usually different parts of speech. However, "the Dynamax phenomenon" is interchangeable with "Dynamax" as a noun ("Why is Dynamax possible only in Galar...? Even Professor Magnolia doesn't know why."). With all that said, I think "Dynamax" is the best title for this page because its various meanings encapsulate all the concepts covered on the page.
(For comparison, with the Terastal phenomenon, the verb is "Terastallize", the adjective is "Tera", and the noun is "Terastallization". So there's no single word that covers everything.) Storm Aurora (talk) 02:57, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Though the games sometimes call it the "Dynamax phenomenon", and it definitely sounds more fancy, I don't think that that means it should be the title of the article. Though Wikipedia is obviously not this wiki, I think it makes sense to look at WP:COMMONNAME and see that the Wikipedians find it best to call articles by the name that is in common parlance, even if it is less official. (To read more about the rule, type "WP:COMMONNAME" into the Wikipedia search field and it will take you directly to the appropriate page section. A search engine will just link to the top of the page.)
For example, the Wikipedia page for Twitter is called "Twitter", even after the name change to "X", becuase "Twitter" is still the name that most people use. Similarly, in regular speech, I don't think I've heard anyone ever say "Dynamax phenomenon" under any circumstances, where as "Dynamax" can be used in all cases. I think Storm Aurora's point about the Terastal phenomenon having complex naming just goes to justify the complex-sounding name of its page, but I don't think we should impose complexity on this page as well.
This thread has been dead for a while, so I think if there is no further activity for a while the moving banner should be removed. I'll check again in a couple month's time. TheGnuGod (talk) 20:50, 12 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
We explicitly *don't* have a COMMONNAME policy per BP:TITLE, but I do agree that the current title is fine and better fits the scope of the page. Landfish7 23:43, 12 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Dynamax Dragonite Trivia

In the trivia section it mentions that Dragonite was shown to Dynamax in the animation before it was available in version 1.3.0 of Sword and Shield. Assuming it is referring to the anime then only portrayal of a Dynamax Dragonite that I can recall is in the Masters 8 tournament which was after Dragonite was made available in Sword and Shield. If a specific episode or animation in which a Dragonite is shown Dynamaxed before the release of version 1.3.0 of Sword and Shield is found then then it should probably be linked in the trivia and if it can't be found then it should probably be removed. Mrnothing (talk) 16:43, 18 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Did some digging to see when the trivia point was added to the page, in case that gave any additional context, and it was added last year long after Sword and Shield 1.3.0 came out. I also can't find evidence of any Dragonite Dynamaxing before Lance's in JN116. So I think the person who added the trivia point either didn't compare the airdate of that episode to the release date of SwSh version 1.3.0, or they think the giant Dragonite from the original series counts as a Dynamax Pokémon (it doesn't). Either way I'm in favor of removing the trivia point. Storm Aurora (talk) 23:36, 18 March 2026 (UTC)Reply