User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 3

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User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1 (archived on November 5, 2015)

User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 2 (archived on January 27, 2020)

Mr.Mime (cont.)

I couldn't continue to talk because you have archived it. The point I want to say or hope that I don't understand is, Ash caught Mr.Mime in It's Mr.Mime Time, which is a fully evolved Pokémon. That means he caught it prior to Beedrill, but why didn't you add Mr.Mime instead of Beedrill in the trivia, and also it is 1031 episodes earlier. - unsigned comment from Dhiwakar (talk • contribs)

Why would before be notable? It isn't the last fully evolved Pokémon before Dragonite, and it's not a member of a three-stage family. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 17:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

I understand it now and thank you FinnishPokéFan92 Dhiwakar (talk) 02:58, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

New page

Why can't I create new pages,or why does it say you are denied permission to create a new page? - unsigned comment from Dhiwakar (talk • contribs)

Like I said before, please talk to an admin about things that trouble you. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 04:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you FinnishPokéFan92. --Dhiwakar (talk) 14:51, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Not sure why you couldn't answer this question, Finnish, when you know the answer to it. In any case, Dhiwakar, you can't create new pages because you are not autoconfirmed. To be autoconfirmed, you have to be a user for some time and make a certain number of edits.--ForceFire 15:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

My apologies, FF. I guess I just figured he should ask from a person whose job it basically is to answer to any questions new users may have. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Notability requirement?

Hi, you reverted my edit on the Pokemon HQ Lab page for not being notable enough.

I checked the wiki rules for notability requirements and the only rule I see on notability is this one: "All English and Japanese Pokémon canon material is notable and relevant."

From this page: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Notability_requirements

As this is an encyclopedia, I feel it could be useful - perhaps not to every user, but to some - to have a comprehensive list of Trainers and their Pokemon's movesets. The next battle in the game is the first Chobin battle, and that one Pokemon and one move has its own block there. Later on in the Pokemon HQ Lab page, the battle with Spy Naps is listed along with his Shadow Teddiursa's moves, even though he can never actually use any of them. So, I don't understand where the notability requirement comes in, and it seems inconsistent - is there a policy I'm not aware of? I'm new here.ReturnofVojtoRX (talk) 08:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

He isn't notable enough to receive a detailed list of movesets and Abilities. That's what I meant. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I understood that, but my question is: why not? Or to put it another way, what's the harm in adding more detailed information on Trainer encounters? As I noted above, there are other Trainers from this game that are given a detailed list of moves and abilities when they arguably don't need them either. I don't see why it has to be removed for not being notable enough if it's factual information about the games and it's something players might encounter or find useful. ReturnofVojtoRX (talk) 10:58, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Bulbapedia doesn't see it necessary for adding detailed party info for less notable Trainers. It would easily end up taking too much space if they were added for everyone. I'm pretty sure all party templates we have on location articles are all for Trainers who are notable in some way. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Too much space on the wiki servers or too much space on the page? You have two subpages on your user page relating to your Pokemon teams which use those templates several dozen times, so I'm assuming it's not a wiki space issue. Does more detailed information need to be posted on a subpage for the article, if it's added? --ReturnofVojtoRX (talk) 11:56, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Too much space on the page. Would be inconvenient. Important Trainers are usually ones who have a notable role in the story or are major bosses, like your rivals, Gym Leaders, or villainous team leaders. I recommend you contact an admin, because that's about the best explanation I can come up with at the moment. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:00, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I've done so, it seems prudent to get a proper understanding of how to add this information before I continue doing so. Thanks for the response. --ReturnofVojtoRX (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

No problem. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Template:Drinks

I don't think the drinks are really all that related. Fresh Water, Soda Pop, and Lemonade are related and all can be purchased from vending machines, but the other three really aren't. MooMoo Milk at least can be purchased from vending machines in Orre, but otherwise isn't that similar. The only thing Tea has in common with them is that it replaces the role of the vending machine drinks for satisfying the Saffron guards. Berry Juice just has nothing in common with the others at all.

As a result, personally I'd rather just delete the template entirely and leave "See also" links between the three vending machine drinks. If you would like to make a case for why there should be navigation between them though, please go ahead. --SnorlaxMonster 09:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Sounds sensible to me. I think I'll make the template exclusive to the vending machine drinks. How does that sound? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

My one concern with doing that is that I would want to put the "Vending Machine drinks" as the nav header, but then MooMoo Milk would also be in that category, but only in Colosseum and XD. Which is why I think just "See also" links rather than a formal Nav template would be better. --SnorlaxMonster 11:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Hmmm... Yeah. You're probably right. Could you delete the template for me? Also, should I add all the drinks there, or Tea and maybe also Berry Juice? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Just the three main vending machine drinks should have "See also" links to each other, I think. --SnorlaxMonster 12:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Itemlist/2

Please don't use {{Itemlist/2}} (or 3) for cases like Gym rewards where you receive both at once. That's not what it's meant for and having different uses in different places will only be confusing.

The template is only meant for items that can randomly change. I.e., where you only get one item at a time, and the next day or something you may get something else (and where it's not convenient to separate those out to their own lists like Fishing items or something). Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:53, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

To me, it seems perfectly usable outside of randomly changing items too. And Chosen seems to agree with me. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:57, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

You missed a big point. It's meant for one thing. Using it for something completely opposite is terribly confusing. Please do not. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:04, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I just tried to improvise. And to be honest, I still fail to see what's wrong with this way of using it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

(Sorry, I didn't think you necessarily wanted a response.) We can look at Axew's Eye for a fairly simple example.

In the uses you were putting it to, when you talk to one person, you get multiple items at once, like a TM and a uniform. If someone sees that and then comes to Axew's Eye, they would think that, oh, looks like if I look around the northwest shore, I can get a Pearl, Big Pearl, AND Pearl String (and a second Pearl and Big Pearl).

But, no, I made the template so that we could much more easily link those items in the Wild Area that can regenerate as different things for the same spot (like a Pearl OR a Big Pearl OR a Pearl String).

Do you see that these uses are completely opposite? Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Kinda. I guess I'll be okay with this now. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:59, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Sword/Shield plot

If you'd like, you can adapt the plot summary you posted here for the main Pokémon Sword and Shield page. --Abcboy (talk) 23:05, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. I may very well do so. Thanks! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 05:49, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

"I don't think these description are overly necessary."

Hi, I made a description about Bea and her Pokémon on her page. Why was it not approved? I mean, her anime category is extremely reduced, and the episode showed a lot of her personality and her Pokémon. Isn't the goal to have a wiki with complete and (if) possible detailed information about each element of the franchise? The greatest merit of Twilight Wings is precisely that he is giving depth to some characters. Well, I don't know, you've been in this for longer than me. --Hilaru Wazana (talk) 16:58, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

I readded the character section with a new description. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2020 (UTC)