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:It'd be great if all of this could somehow be incorporated into the article as well. [[User:Pale Prism|Pale Prism]] ([[User talk:Pale Prism|talk]]) 23:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
:It'd be great if all of this could somehow be incorporated into the article as well. [[User:Pale Prism|Pale Prism]] ([[User talk:Pale Prism|talk]]) 23:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
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[[User:Pikcahu|Pikcahu]] ([[User talk:Pikcahu|talk]]) 10:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

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Dream World abilities

Do they also count for the loss of exclusiveness? Say for example, Slakoth's Truant is available as a DW ability for Aianto, should the note "Prior to Generation V" be included for Slakoth? --Kaoz 19:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Past signature abilities

Most of past signature abilities lost that status in Generation V. Only two did so in Generation IV. Marked +-+-+ 17:23, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Template

I am tired of hovering, we need a template like the one on the signature move page. TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 23:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Made it myself, but Zen Mode is not working. I am not good with templates. TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 23:10, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

A Question

Why are the Abilities being linked to as moves? Reshi643 (talk) 23:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Problem with the template

There is a problem, I see only one ability and not two for the Flabébé line, will anyone fix this? --Cinday123 (Talk) 22:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

There are both abilities listed if you edit the page, but forever reason this one doesn't work like Signature Moves does. It's a question about editing the template, I think. You might have to go directly to the template's discussion page, if that's even a thing. --KiANGLO (TALK) 00:14, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
In my experience, staff can be slow at getting around to updating protected templates. Luckily, since it's the current gen, it's easy enough to hack a fix up. (Even if it weren't the current gen, though, I'd have just written out the code for those rows.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:36, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Ultra Beasts

We need to redefine what "Signature Move/Ability" means. Currently, it's only limited to evolutionary families, but clear "groups" of Pokemon like the Ultra Beasts should qualify. - unsigned comment from Kungfuyu (talkcontribs)

Yeah, I think we should clarify it; I sense an edit war starting. The only reason I added it in the first place was because it said so here. Unowninator (talk) 17:57, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
I feel like ultra beasts should qualify as well (though that's probably obvious given my prior edit)--they're clearly a related group of Pokémon and they are the only ones to have the ability. --Felthry (talk) 21:47, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Signature move considers the Swords of Justice to have a signature move among themselves even though they are not evolutionarily related, so I think this is a similar situation and the UBs' Beast Boost can be considered a signature Ability. However, we need a satisfactory way to draw a line (on both articles) so that actual, legitimate groups qualify and arbitrary ones don't qualify (like starters + elemental monkeys for Overgrow/Blaze/Torrent, or butterflies and moths for Quiver Dance). I'm not sure of the best wording to use to draw that line. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:35, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Here's my two cents... Starters are a maybe, the only thing keeping me from saying "yes" is that they're scattered across every generation. Butterflies and moths are a definite no - they're not really directly linked.
Another thing: I think that if an ability is an ability of one Pokemon and then a hidden ability for another, it should still be here, for example Cloud Nine. Just a suggestion. --Celadonkey 18:28, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Nah, I was saying that both of those arbitrary groups I named are examples of what would not count, because they're arbitrary. (The monkeys disqualify the starter group.)
If we were still back in Gen V I might agree with you on Hidden Abilities, but they're so easily achievable now that I don't personally think HAs should be treated differently than standard Abilities. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:34, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Wait, why would starters not count? --Celadonkey 18:38, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Starters aren't the only Pokemon with Overgrow/Blaze/Torrent. Pansage/Pansear/Panpour and their evolutions have them too, and that's what disqualifies it. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:01, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Oh, that makes sense. --Celadonkey 19:10, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

How do I add protean?

Protean was Kecleon's signature ability in Generation 5. I tried to add it to the table, but it didn't show up. What do I type to get it to show up? sumwun (talk) 05:47, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

No it wasn't; Protean didn't exist in gen 5. Like Plusle & Ferrothorn, Kecleon didn't have a hidden ability until gen 6. Unowninator (talk) 06:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Signature abilities only in X and Y

Mega Pinsir, Tyrunt-Tyrantrum and Amaura-Aurorus have a signature ability (Aerilate, Strong Jaw and Refrigerate, respectively) in X and Y, but not in the other games. Maybe you should edit the template adding an asterisk with "Only in".--Snorlite (talk) 18:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Signature Abilities only in specific games

Not counting event distributions and the Dream World, this is a summary of all Pokémon with signature Abilities only in specific games (only at the time of their release):

Ruby, Sapphire and Colosseum
Ability Pokémon Signature
in Colosseum
Speed Boost Ninjask
Battle Armor AnorithArmaldo
Damp PsyduckGolduck
Volt Absorb ChinchouLanturn
Insomnia ShuppetBanette
Immunity Zangoose
Shield Dust WurmpleDustox
Suction Cups LileepCradily
Effect Spore ShroomishBreloom
Trace RaltsKirliaGardevoir
Hustle Corsola
Overgrow TreeckoGrovyleSceptile
Blaze TorchicCombuskenBlaziken
Torrent MudkipMarshtompSwampert
Arena Trap Trapinch
Vital Spirit Vigoroth
All Abilities in this table are signature Abilities in Ruby and Sapphire.
Only select few were signature Abilities even in Colosseum.
None of them were signature Abilities in FireRed and LeafGreen.
X and Y
Ability Pokémon
Strong Jaw TyruntTyrantrum
Refrigerate AmauraAurorus
Aerilate Pinsir
Sword and Shield until the Crown Tundra
Ability Pokémon
Electric Surge Pincurchin
Psychic Surge IndeedeeIndeedee
Misty Surge Weezing
Grassy Surge GrookeyThwackeyRillaboom

Is there any way any staff member could edit the {{SignatureAbility}} template to list these? --Bfdifan2006something to say? · My work documentation 12:51, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

It'd be great if all of this could somehow be incorporated into the article as well. Pale Prism (talk) 23:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Sword and Shield
Ability Pokémon
Immunity Snorlax
Simple WoobatSwoobat
Truant Durant
Tangled Feet Mr. Rime
Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl
Ability Pokémon
Sand Rush SandshrewSandslash
No Guard MachopMachokeMachamp
Download PorygonPorygon2Porygon-Z
Huge Power MarillAzumarillAzurill
Shadow Tag WobbuffetWynaut
Truant SlakothSlaking
White Smoke Torkoal
Klutz BunearyLopunny
Snow Warning SnoverAbomasnow
Motor Drive Electivire

Pikcahu (talk) 10:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)