Talk:Pokémon Trainer's Choice

I think we should make a list of the PTC's of each episode.

Example: EP999 Question:Blah blah blah? Choices:Pokémon 1, Pokémon 2, Pokémon 3 Answer:Blah blah blah!

Yeah, same with Who's That Pokémon. TTEchidna 16:38, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

We have them listed on the episode's pages. Should we move them here? --PAK Man ^Talk 04:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Possible Layout

I've been experimenting with a possible layout for the Trainer's Choices to be listed on this page. This is what I've come up with so far:

Episode	Question	Choices	Answer	Note(s)
A Fan with a Plan	Trainers, which one of these Pokémon evolves into Seviper?	Arbok, Sableye, Suicune	Arbok	Epic fail on 4Kids' part: Seviper doesn't evolve from ANYTHING.
Solid as a Solrock	Trainers, which one of these Pokémon isn't a pure Fighting-type?	Makuhita, Blaziken, Machamp	Blaziken	Blaziken is Fire/Fighting.
Where's Armaldo?	Trainers, which Pokémon was my original choice as a starter?	Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Charmander	Squirtle	Ash first chose Squirtle, then Bulbasaur, then Charmander, and finding all Poké Balls empty, was forced to take Pikachu.

I was thinking the notes column could be used in case the answer was incorrect, and it would be used to explain it. Any thoughts? --PAK Man ^Talk 00:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I like it, it organizes everything a lot better and it brings them all onto one page. Could we do this table on the episode pages? I think it would make the pages look a lot cleaner and consistant. ^Moldy_Orange 00:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Anyone wanna? TTEchidna 22:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Ding-dong. (make a) List of Pokémon Trainer's Choice? Anyone wanna get 'em all together? TTEchidna 02:54, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Until I read this page, I didn't even know that Ask asked the questions. Do you think this needs mentioning in the article? Taromon777 13:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I've created a table for those who are interested..--ForceFire 02:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I just finished putting all the questions on the page, and now I find out people are making tables for it. head desk

should I stick a table around them? it would make the page wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy shorter._Volcronaperson_ 21:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

What about this layout

It's compact and its just specify that the answer is bold

Episode	Question	Choices	Note(s)
A Fan with a Plan	Trainers, which one of these Pokémon evolves into Seviper?	Arbok, Sableye, Suicune	Seviper does not evolve.
Solid as a Solrock	Trainers, which one of these Pokémon isn't a pure Fighting-type?	Makuhita, Blaziken, Machamp	Blaziken is Fire/Fighting.
Where's Armaldo?	Trainers, which Pokémon was my original choice as a starter?	Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Charmander	Ash first chose Squirtle, then Bulbasaur, then Charmander, and finding all Poké Balls empty, was forced to take Pikachu.

--Igor 01:18, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Question

Would it be possible that some of these questions don't only take typing into account, but other factors as well? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 17:49, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Could be, but given that this is intended to be child's trivia, there is little argument for assuming that the writers based some of the questions on stats or other complicated info. Types are the easiest things to remember, and it appears that all of the related questions only deal with typing, even if some are erroneous. --IWannaBeTheVeryBest (talk) 17:37, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Explaining the answers

I have included all of the information regarding why certain answers are so. For example, I changed "Dustox has a double resistance to Fighting" to "The Bug/Poison-type Dustox has a double resistance to Fighting." Should we keep it my idiot-proof way or just assume that people know the types already? --IWannaBeTheVeryBest (talk) 17:37, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

More than type advantage

Note that Ash doesn't ask which has a type advantage...
AG132, Arcanine vs Kirlia: Who has the advantage?
"Neither choice is correct based on type match-ups because Fire-type Pokémon and Psychic-type Pokémon have a neutral effect on each other. Also, this is the first and only Trainer's Choice that has two choices instead of three."
I really think this question was about more than type match-ups, but a match where two types "seem" on equal ground, but really aren't. Kirlia has rather unremarkable stats, with low HP, Spd, both Atk and Sp.Atk, and both Def and Sp.Def. Arcanine, on the other hand, has notably higher stats in each. While neither has type advantage over the other, Arcanine is clearly correct in that it could deal more damage, resist more damage, and take more damage until being knocked out, as well as attacking first with higher speed. Also to note, Kirlia learns no offensive moves with type advantage over Arcanine (only Rain Dance, a status move); Arcanine learns Bite, a dark move Kirlia is weak to.
If you take the strongest move(s) Kirlia can learn (90 power Psychic and 100 power Dream Eater and Future Sight, STAB 135 and 150), with the strongest Kirlia's stats can be at lvl 50, vs the weakest an Arcanine can be at lvl 50 (95 Flamethrower, 120 Fire Blast, 140 Overheat, 145/180/210 each), Arcanine still does more damage in % than Kirlia can. Regardless of who attacks first, Arcanine has a VERY clear advantage. Proof in math can be provided. (And proof = fact, not opinion)

AG053, Best to fight Kirlia: Togetic, Combusken, Graveler?
"This is incorrect due to the part Fighting-type Combusken's weakness to the Psychic-type Kirlia. None of the choices has an advantage over Kirlia."
A tough call, I can only really say Graveler is best choice between Togetic and Graveler to battle Kirlia, here. Kirlia's psychic attacks are all special, with only 5 TM physical moves - Combusken is weak by type; Graveler has incredibly low Sp.Def. with a base stat of 45; Togetic has a Sp.Def. base stat of 105, meaning it would take the least amount of damage from Kirlia's attacks. However, Kirlia has incredibly low Sp.Atk. with a base of 35, so while Togetic would be able to absorb more hits, Togetic and Graveler have the same HP with a base of 55. Togetic takes until about lvl 50 to start learning offensive moves, and only a handful of TMs are worth having, including Hyper Beam, Return, and Giga Impact. It also has a base Atk of 40, compared to Kirlia's base Def of 35, which is enough for a stat advantage. Graveler, on the other hand, has a base Atk of 95 with great ground/rock moves like Earthquake or Stone Edge, which could double Togetic's damage easily.
Considering Graveler is a physical fighter and Togetic is a special defender, in terms of stats, it really comes down to who can knock out who first. Kirlia has a base speed of 50, while Togetic and Graveler have 40 and 35 respectively. Kirlia could hit Graveler for 65% before it acts using Psychic, but Togetic's Sp.Def. would protect it to take only 25%. Kirlia's 38 base HP means Graveler could hit with an attack with a power of 75 and still one-shot it (115%), so the 65% dmg would mean nothing (unless Psychic crits). Togetic, however, would have a tougher fight, dealing only about 25% dmg with one of its common attacks, or almost exactly 100% with one of its strongest attacks. As a note, Giga Impact, its strongest physical attack, would only one-shot an incredibly weak Kirlia, and only if the Togetic was above average.
Just for fun, Kirlia could potentially hit Combusken first for about 90-100%, but Combusken would likely hit first with a higher base Spd of 55, and strike for 85% physical or 100% special with common/weak moves (or more, with TMs and its strongest moves, pushing 120% phys and 170% special, on average). Combusken could be able take out Kirlia with no damage taken, or (if it's slow) the same as everyone else. Funny that means Combusken is the best choice to fight Kirlia...

Kinda makes me want to review other ones marked as "incorrect" (except seviper/arbok... really 4kids?) and see if the pokemon they chose really had an unnoticed advantage. --Kiomadoushi (talk) 01:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Addendum
AG052, Best to fight Shiftry: Swampert, Taillow, Torkoal?
Taillow, a part Flying-type, would also be a good choice against Shiftry, who is part Grass.
Taillow has abysmal stats, and likely wouldn't survive the first round. Low defenses (30 each) combined with low attacks (55 and 30) means it's suicide against Shiftry, with high Atk and Sp.Atk. (100 and 90). Razor Leaf for 100% dmg before Taillow could attack. If Taillow attacks first, 30% special with Air Slash, 40% physical with Aerial Ace... Then weak Razor Leaf to knock it out. Once again, it didn't ask for what has type advantage, but which is best to fight it.
I knew looking for more was a good idea... --Kiomadoushi (talk) 01:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)