Talk:Ash's Greninja
Is this trivia worthy?
Is it worth noting that Froakie is Ash's first Pokémon that was originally own by another trainer before being released that is not a Fire-type? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 13:40, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Frubble
Frubble is dat word from a episode? which the character say this? --Altruis でんき 08:07, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Only Starter
Is it notable that this is Ash's only Kalos starter? The series is really new, so he might get another one. It's unlikely for two main characters to have the same Pokémon, but May and Ash both have Bulbasaur. --Wynd Fox 21:02, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not quite sure; Sceptile was Ash's only Hoenn starter, but that face isn't mentioned, so I don't think we should add it here. ZappaOMati 15:30, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Quick Attack
Shouldn't we wait to add Quick Attack given he didn't actually use it correctly yet?? He hasn't used the full move even once yet.RBK (talk) 04:04, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
- Yes it did, alongside Frogadier, but unlike Frogadier, Froakie was countered by Team Rocket. Plus, Ash commanded it to use it and it did use it a few times, watch the episode!!--Omojuzeforever (talk) 16:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
I've watched it lol. Ash commanded him to use it but he never actually used the whole attack. Not the way Frogadier or Pikachu use it at least. He started to learn in it this episode, he hasn't learned it fully yet.RBK (talk) 11:23, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
froakie IS male
In the episode where ash and friends visit a kindagarten, sylveon uses attract on froakie. Later, meowth falls in love with sylveon. Therefore sylveon is female, meaning froakie must be male. - unsigned comment from Lu-igi board (talk • contribs)
- That's no plausible evidence. We're not (and will never be) 100% sure on that particular Sylveon's gender, even if Meowth fell in love with it. We don't add genders on assumption. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 11:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- But Meowth is obviously a male, and Attract only works on the opposite gender, therefore Sylveon MUST be female and Froakie MUST be male. --SuperPikaBros 14:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Froakie was the one inflicted with Attract. Meowth was never targeted with that move in that episode. Berrenta (talk) 14:20, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Meowth still fell in love with the Sylveon, though, Attract or not. That's gotta mean Sylveon's female, and since the obviously female Sylveon's Attract worked on Froakie, there you go. Or is there a reason it's not that simple? Because I have a feeling that if it was that simple, we wouldn't be discussing this. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 14:36, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Meowth fell in love with a male Purrloin back in BW044, so we can't assume that Sylveon is female. Like the aforementioned Purrloin, it could be male for all we know. He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit! (talk) 14:55, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, forgot about that. Alright, then, yeah I'd say that Froakie's gender remains unconfirmed, though is still pretty likely to be male IMO. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 04:59, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Why does the rules for confirming gender have to be so strict? º_º' Like, why can't we just figure gender out by looking at the behavior of the Pokémon? Or at least verify gender through it's voice? Trip's Snivy and Ash's Snivy had different voices, with Ash's having the girl-like voice and Trip's having the more boyish voice. --リックEO (オープン for discussion) 07:11, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- We don't confirm genders based on behavior or voices because we could still be wrong. For all we know, Trip's Snivy can really just be a very masculine female.--ForceFire 07:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Actually in some cases we can. DuArt has confirmed numerous times that they have Pokémon voices universal. So in Snivy's case, Michele Knotz always is the voice of female Snivy, and so on. However, Froakie is an unconfirmed case, so the same can't apply here until there's more confirmation. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 07:29, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- We don't confirm genders based on behavior or voices because we could still be wrong. For all we know, Trip's Snivy can really just be a very masculine female.--ForceFire 07:27, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Why does the rules for confirming gender have to be so strict? º_º' Like, why can't we just figure gender out by looking at the behavior of the Pokémon? Or at least verify gender through it's voice? Trip's Snivy and Ash's Snivy had different voices, with Ash's having the girl-like voice and Trip's having the more boyish voice. --リックEO (オープン for discussion) 07:11, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, forgot about that. Alright, then, yeah I'd say that Froakie's gender remains unconfirmed, though is still pretty likely to be male IMO. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 04:59, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Meowth fell in love with a male Purrloin back in BW044, so we can't assume that Sylveon is female. Like the aforementioned Purrloin, it could be male for all we know. He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit! (talk) 14:55, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Meowth still fell in love with the Sylveon, though, Attract or not. That's gotta mean Sylveon's female, and since the obviously female Sylveon's Attract worked on Froakie, there you go. Or is there a reason it's not that simple? Because I have a feeling that if it was that simple, we wouldn't be discussing this. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 14:36, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Froakie was the one inflicted with Attract. Meowth was never targeted with that move in that episode. Berrenta (talk) 14:20, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- But Meowth is obviously a male, and Attract only works on the opposite gender, therefore Sylveon MUST be female and Froakie MUST be male. --SuperPikaBros 14:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
When Froakie evolves...
Can someone put in the trivia section that Frogadier is Ash's first Water-type starter Pokémon to evolve? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 03:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- Once the episode airs, sure. --リックEO (My message board) 04:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
It's out
The episode is out now. Could somebody unprotect and move the page now? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Frogadier's moves
With the new release of XY052, Frogadier has learned Aerial Ace, and so far that was only move shown (possibly Cut as well, but I'm not sure about that one), so I changed it to only Aerial Ace being the recent move, however a user, JasonL changed it to Water Pulse, Bubble and Cut also being recent, since a Pokémon can only know four moves, I only put down Aerial Ace as recent since we cannot speculate on the other 3 moves kept until we see them in a episode (I wasn't sure what he meant by "Just think of the moves as so far" in his/her edit summary). Can anyone else confirm if I'm right or wrong since I don't want to start an edit war S 16:38, 12 December 2014 (UTC) - StephenWalker97
- Before Evolution, Froakie only used Water Pulse, Cut and Double Team so far, but didn't use Bubble. After it evolved it used Cut and that other move I'm not sure if its Aerial Ace or something else.--JasonL 23:35, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Not related to JasonL's post (and put :, ::, ::: when you add a new edit/discussion of text), but to those who keep adding Water Pulse and Double Team as recent, don't, even if its confirmed by other sources e.g. CoroCoro in a episode preview, you don't add it as recent until the episode in which Frogadier uses the new move airs. StephenWalker97 (talk) 17:26, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Frogadier's New Move
Did Frogadier learned Aerial Ace? It's hard to tell because I saw one of its arms glow blue and it did some kicks. And I know it used Cut.--JasonL 23:35, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
