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==Farfetch'd==
If anything, a Farfetch'd evo should be a Normal/Dark or Dark/Flying ninja. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the idea, but im not sure where you are comming from...you mean how he is very elusive and attacks with a stick like a sword? '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|<span style="color:#000033;">RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|<span style="color:#000033;">NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|<span style="color:#000033;">DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|<span style="color:#000033;">PT]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the leek would become a sword. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 06:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::i dont think parents would like that, a Pokemon with a sword? '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|<span style="color:#000033;">RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|<span style="color:#000033;">NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|<span style="color:#000033;">DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|<span style="color:#000033;">PT]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:It'd be a leek that looks more like a sword. And that's no more violent than a Pokémon with boxing gloves or one that can pretty much shoot missiles. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 06:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::alright, i like it, a Dark/Flying, keep the name i got, or what do you think? {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 06:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Screw the parents, we have Scyther and is anyone going on about that? No. -[[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Ninjetch'd? It just fits. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 06:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::oooh, i like that. also, i think Mudkipchan put that comment in the wrong section.. {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 06:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

ネギニンジ ''Negininja'' would be its Japanese name, from カモネギ ''Kamonegi''. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 07:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:um.....sure? {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

==Babies==
There should be a baby Pokémon that can evolve into either Miltank and Tauros. Maybe one for the Volbeat... guys too. -[[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 05:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:And a baby Kangaskhan would definitely be both genders, and males would become Kangaskirk. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 05:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the miltank/tauros idea, im not so sure about the Volbeat one (maybe thats because i dont like them) '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|<span style="color:#000033;">RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|<span style="color:#000033;">NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|<span style="color:#000033;">DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|<span style="color:#000033;">PT]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Yes to male Kangaskhan and baby, they would both solve the missing link of Kangaskhan. Why Game Freak, why must you torment us! And I don't like Volbeat too. :P -05:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::alright, a male Kahn it is, but what to name it? i like the idea of "Kirk" but that doesnt really fit the evo line name. unless i changed the baby to "Kangasroo" or somthing. '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|<span style="color:#000033;">RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|<span style="color:#000033;">NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|<span style="color:#000033;">DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|<span style="color:#000033;">PT]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:You ''do'' know the reference is to Star Trek, right? Kirk was the one who said KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 06:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Kirk is also a name for a boy, of course. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::well, i know Kirk, and i know the Kahn line, but not everyone knows that, and it still wouldnt look right. itd be a damn good nickname though '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAGNEDETH</span>]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|<span style="color:#000033;">RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|<span style="color:#000033;">NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|<span style="color:#000033;">DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|<span style="color:#000033;">PT]]</span>[[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::My opinion, Kangaskhan should of never been able to breed.  That would of solved this whole mess. But I guess it's too late for that. --[[Image:048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]'''[[Image:183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]'''[[Image:123MS.gif]] 06:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::maybe ill add that to my [[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|other page]] {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::: I object. If Kangaskhan couldn't breed, then it still wouldn't explain where the child came from in fact it would probably raise even more questions. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::thats an even better point. i think the real prob was that they made it a female only with no male, it makes me wonder how they ever exsisted at all!! {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::No the real problem is not the gender. When a Kangaskhan is born.. as soon as it comes out of the egg, it is an adult that is already bearing another kid. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::What I meant was that the players can't breed them. Maybe Kangaskhan could have mated in secrecy. You know, the same as legendary Pokémon. We can't breed them but there's no doubt that they can mate. Just not in front of humans. There is that baby Lugia in the anime. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 07:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Let the debate begin. :P Joking. Well that is possible... But the Lugias just made me go "Meh." when I first watched the episodes surrounding the two, just being honest here. But I'll give you credit that you do have a point here. But now that Game Freak has made the kanga breedable... that missing link just appeared. And before anyone asks, yes I am too lazy to use my sig. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::::yea, im def putting that on my do over page... {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Evolutions ==

You know, the name of the new doesn't always have to match the old. Examples of Pokémon who's names don't have much in common.

#Tyrogue = Hitmon...
#Caterpie = Metapod = Butterfree
#Ekans = Arbok
#Oddish = Gloom = Vileplume or Bellosom
#Meowth = Persian
#Geodude = Graveler = Golem
#Ponyta = Rapidash
#Magikarp = Gyrados
#Nuzleaf = Shiftry
#Wingull = Pelipper
#Ralts = Kirlia = Ga...
#Shroomish = Breloom
#Burmy = Wormadam or Mothim
#Skorupi = Drapion

So vary a little okay?{{:User:Pokemaniac102/Sig}} 07:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:good point, I'm just a stickler for that stuff. it always bothered me when Pokémon evolutions didn't have similar cries in the games {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Clawsir ==
One more thing i can't stand. Pinsir is a pun on Pincer. There is no such thing as a Clawcer. Only a Claw.{{:User:Pokemaniac102/Sig}} 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:i did make a note "the name needs work" that being said, what do you think? and do you like the idea of a Bug/Dark type? {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Well I love darkness. What do you think you're gonna name it? Clark? Claw and Dark. {This is not funny and is not meant to be funny){{:User:Pokemaniac102/Sig}} 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::wow, if it were real, "Clark" would be the best nickname ever. could go the generic route and say "Darklaw" or something {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Hey, Crushir might be a good name.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::not a bad name, but i cant help but feel its a bit generic...i have since renamed it "Guiloreap", i think its still a bit to busy, thoughts? {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 23:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== For Gen II, III, IV ==

I think a {{p|Houndoom}} evo would be cool.  Also a baby form of {{p|Absol}}.  And of course a {{p|Pachirisu}} evo. Maybe it could be a flying squirrel and become Electric/Flying.

Anyway, great choices so far. Can't wait to see more --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 07:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:Pachirisu flying squirrel, thats a really good one, ill get one that one. as for Houndoom? idk, hes pretty awesome, ill think about it. {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Throw it off a cliff LOL!! That's a good one.  Have you ever thought of different Eeveelutions? --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 22:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm all for the idea of a Pachirisu evo, but I'd prefer it to be a pure Electric-type with the Levitate ability.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, I think that Rotom could use an evolved form.  It would basically be more like Pulseman.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

:why would there be a reason for Levitating Pachirisu? a flying squirrel is a real thing. as for Rotom, yea, i was thinking about it, give folks a reason to have to wait until after the E4 to get him. also, i probably wont do Eeveelutions, theres no real work involved in them, just copy and paste types and stats, and give it a generic name. Drageon, Steeleon, Toxeon, etc..{{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 23:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know.  I just like the idea of a pure-Electric type.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 01:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:::well, theres 20 other pure Eelctric-types, im sure almost all of them are better than Pachirisu.. {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 02:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::::With Levitate, it wouldn't have any weaknesses. <span style="background: #000000">[[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080">S<sup><big>h</big></sup>i<sub><big>n</big></sub>y</span>]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080"><sup><big>N</big></sup>o<sub><big>c</big></sub>t<sup><big>o</big></sup>w<sub><big>l</big></sub></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 02:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:::::my stance on '''flying''' squirrel stands. {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 02:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Flying squirrels don't actually fly, they just glide. <span style="background: #000000">[[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080">S<sup><big>h</big></sup>i<sub><big>n</big></sub>y</span>]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080"><sup><big>N</big></sup>o<sub><big>c</big></sub>t<sup><big>o</big></sup>w<sub><big>l</big></sub></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 02:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:I'm for the Flying-type Pachirisu. Why? Cause. No weaknesses are just hax, man. {{User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig}} 02:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::i agree, i dispise Sableye and Spiritomb, and thats comming from a hacker! {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 02:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

== Separating the charts? ==

Why not do that, for evos and prevos? Prevos get one section, evos get another. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 07:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:the idea had come to me, i suppose ill do it tomorrow, its almost 3:00AM {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::Oh boy, three AM! *grabs a burger and chomps on it* {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 07:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::well, i have no idea what that was about, but i do have a full time job and i get up at 7, so, i think ill be going now....btw, thanks for cleaning up my page. {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 07:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Speedix ==

How about this. Speedix could be Steel and Dark type, with Dark being the secondary type. I mean think about it, a giant metal drill that moves around on its own seems more like a dual Dark type to me. And it must learn Horn Drill of course. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 17:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the idea, but, if hes digging around underground, i think itd make more sence to be ground-type. btw, please tell me you have an idea for a better name, this one is killing me. {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 17:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::True that. But Pokemon can't have three typing anyhow.... and battle-wise, he would probably get a 4x weakness to Fighting if he were Steel and Dark type. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno.  I always thought that {{p|Onix}} needed a pre-evolution.  Onix is '''''WAY''''' to big to be an unevolved Pokémon.  Satoshi Tajiri managed to avoid making a pre-evolution for {{p|Rhyhorn}} by giving {{p|Rhydon}} an evolution, and I'd hate for that to happen with Onix.[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::::thats a really good point...hows about Speedix be an alternative to Onix? (like bellossom) {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 21:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mawile ==

Evolve The Kucheat! And don't name it Bawile. DO NOT. Or else I will harm you. REALLY. REALLY. BADLY. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 07:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:that would be terrible, and it does need an evolution {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 18:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::toss me some ideas here {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 20:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Japanese name could be Krakcheat. English, Jaworn. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 07:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, and don't forget: Steel/Dark plz. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 07:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::you dont mind a 4x weakness? {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 23:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

==Sableye==
There should be an evolution of Sableye if there's an evolution of Mawile! And it should have Wonder Guard. <span style="background: #000000">[[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080">S<sup><big>h</big></sup>i<sub><big>n</big></sub>y</span>]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080"><sup><big>N</big></sup>o<sub><big>c</big></sub>t<sup><big>o</big></sup>w<sub><big>l</big></sub></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 21:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
:yes to evolution, no to Wonder Guard..hehe {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 21:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::Why shouldn't it have Wonder Guard? <span style="background: #000000">[[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080">S<sup><big>h</big></sup>i<sub><big>n</big></sub>y</span>]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080"><sup><big>N</big></sup>o<sub><big>c</big></sub>t<sup><big>o</big></sup>w<sub><big>l</big></sub></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 21:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::You can see some of my other ideas [[User:Shiny Noctowl/New evolutions|here]]. <span style="background: #000000">[[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080">S<sup><big>h</big></sup>i<sub><big>n</big></sub>y</span>]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #808080"><sup><big>N</big></sup>o<sub><big>c</big></sub>t<sup><big>o</big></sup>w<sub><big>l</big></sub></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 21:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Didn't I already explain to you why NO Wonder Guard? Because a Dark/Ghost type Pokemon has no weakness, and one having Wonder Guard would be entirely unfair and IILEGAL in the metagame. Goodness. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 22:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

==Breloom==

I think there should be an evolution of breloom, with less weaknesses. Just spitballing. --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]]{{Ani|471}} 01:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:idk, theres not much that can be done there. Breloom is a Grass/Fighting type. theres been no pokemon that gains a type, then gets rid of it. if anything, i was considering a middle evolution because Shroomish is some tiny blob with no limbs and suddenly its a full size FIGHTING type! it didnt even have arms before!! {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 06:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::Never any middle-intermediate evos, and besides... why mess with it when the final product is the same...? {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 07:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::so on that basis, Breloom is untouchable. {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 21:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::It could have another evolution, or Shroomish could have an alternate evo. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 22:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::yea, i suppose, but grass types are so unuseable... {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 23:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== How? ==

Thr... Thr... Throw it off a cliff!? Are you just being funny are have you gone mad?{{:User:Pokemaniac102/Sig}} 23:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:maybe both? {{:User:MAGNEDETH/Sig}} 23:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)