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Talk:Fennekin (Pokémon)

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Origin

Fennekin is based on a Fennec fox ;) --PenBlooeR 12:54, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Name

i think its fennel and vixen not kitten! Badwolf1234 (talk) 13:11, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree, definetly makes more sense than kitten --PenBlooeR 13:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe more fennec and kind (child in german) Milde (talk) 16:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I think its also possible that the kin part is derived from Kitsune. Drop the Tsu and e and you got kin. It also might be from Kinetic as in Kinetic energy.
Another possibility is that Kin is from Kindred as in Kindred Spirit. We all know Foxes and Sprites go hand in hand in japan. Yamitora1 (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm fairly confident that it's Fennec and Kindle, guys. It's the fire starter, after all, you'd expect its name to reference fire in some way. Aielyn (talk) 00:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Think its Japanese name might be a pun on "focus", the Latin word for "fireplace", or its many descendants in Romance languages which mean "fire", such as the Italian "fuoco". TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 16:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Anyway, because of the template, we don't need its Japanese name in the name origin section. TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 16:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
I think "kin" is from "tele-kinesis" or "psycho-kinesis". It will be confirmed if it's revealed that it's second type is Psychic, however. Tano User talk:Tano 18:26, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
All 3 starters have been confirmed to be pure Fire/Water/Grass types in their first forms so I'm not sure how accurate this is. It's evolution may still be part Psychic-type though so we'll just have to wait and see! Noah★ (talk) 04:11, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
'Kin', also might come from, well, 'kin' as in family/relations/breed (as in your next of kin). Making the name mean more or less mean Fennic family/species. Kin being the word that kindred, akin, and kind (as in mankind) are derived from. senefen

Regional dex number

I think after 5 gens of games, its safe to say that it's Pokedex number will be 004 for its regional dex spot. In all the games, the first fire starter has always been 004 in their regional dex. Yamitora1 (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

We also thought that Snivy must be #494 in the Ndex, and look what happened. - signed comment from GoldenCelebi (pedia talknews talkarchives talk) 22:49, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Snivy may not have been 494 in the National Dex, but he was still 001 in the Unova Dex. Schiffy (talk) 14:31, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Whose to say they won't switch it around? Wait until more information is revealed.--ForceFire 14:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
We're not talking about the National Dex, we're talking about the Regional Dex. After 5 generations, the starters have always followed the same template. The grass has always been 001, 002 and 003, the Fire 004, 005, 006 and the water 007, 008 and 009. Even when Victini came in and messed with the template some to be 000, it still didn't oust Snivy from the 001 spot or Tepig from the 004 spot.
In Gen I, Charmander was 004, Gen II Cyndaquil 004, Gen III Torchic 004, Gen IV Chimchar 004 and Gen 5 Tepig 004 The reason they always give the starters and their evolutions the first 9 spots of the dex is because they're the first Pokémon you get. So with that said, I think its safe to say we can give Fennekin the 004. Yamitora1 (talk) 04:52, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
So what? It may change. It's unlikely but possible. Just wait until it is confirmed. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 06:53, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Stock Image

Can we please put this image instead of the other image? 81px-Fennekin.png the current one looks like it was crushed by two walls.- unsigned comment from Invert™ (talkcontribs)

It's the same file, but for some reason it doesn't update G_G --PenBlooeR 18:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
The server will update the image itself, please be patient. AdynizWanna talk? 18:21, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Type

Although we obviously can't make any assumptions and put them on the Fennekin page, would it be safe to say that it is a Fire/Psychic type? The move that it used against the Kirlia in the trailer looked a lot like a psychic type move. Cafeolay (talk) 23:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Not yet. Besides, most Pokémon used moves that don't get STAB. PattyMan 23:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
  • I.E. Psyduck and Golduck. They learn Psychic moves and they aren't Psychic-types. Also, is there any confirmation that it was a psychic attack? Seriously, I'm curious if there was. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 23:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Yeah I realize that it may not be a psychic type, I'm just putting the idea out there. The Psyduck/Golduck analogy is actually a great example. Cafeolay (talk) 23:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks. LOL. I'm assuming that this site goes off of confirmed/official info, though it isn't a bad thought. It probably is best to just wait until something official is release on the types and evolutions. But here's to wishful thinking and hopefully not having another Fire/Fighting type starter. XD Until then, I'm guessing we'll have to wait and see. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 23:55, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
  • To break the Fire-Fighting cycle, I could imagine the final evolution as half-ground. Given that Grass-Ground (Torterra) and Water-Ground (Swampert) already exist, it's a no-brainer. FalafelC (talk) 08:17, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Hasn't it already been officially confirmed that Fennekin is a pure Fire type by various official Pokémon sources? As for its evolutions, it is too early to say anyway.--ShinyPatch (talk) 10:12, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Design Origin

Shouldn't we add that it appears to be based on a fennec fox? --CoolDudeAl (talk) 01:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Fennekin evo?

Found this dng07s.jpg obvious speculation, has anything been revealed?Prinben (talk) 20:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Very obvious fake; it says "HeartGold & SoulSilver" in top right.--Den Zen 20:07, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Kitsune may also be likely origin

Besides being based on a fennec fox in regards to its appearance, I also believe that Fennekin may also be based on a kitsune in mind. It's not uncommon in Japanese mythology of kitsune foxes being able to wield fire power, or 'fox fire' as it is sometimes called. Rai Marshall (talk) 21:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe, but weren't Zorua and Zoroark also based off of Kitsunes and they weren't Fire-Types at all. We'll have to see. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 22:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
I also think Fennekin is based off Kitsune. Before Fennekin, there was some Fire-type foxes such as Vulpix, Flareon, and the legendary Victini. However, only Ninetales were actually based off Kitsune, especially Nine Tailed Fox, and I think Flareon was more of a dog, and Victini was more of a rabbit than a fox (although it was also based on a fennec fox like Eevee and Fennekin). Special Stage Route (pit stop) 09:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
In regards to Zorua and Zoroark, yes they aren't fire types. Not all kitsune in mythology are depicted to wield the powers of fire, but 'fox fire' is still a fairly common thing. As for Vulpix, it's still based on a kitsune, but based on a young kitsune that hasn't reached full maturity. Rai Marshall (talk) 22:57, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
  • I'm not saying that you are wrong, I'm just saying we should wait until we get more info. Never was sure if Flareon was a fox or not...or a dog, looked like a fox, I suppose. If so, I guess it can prove the fact that we shouldn't assume any fox-like fire-types are automatically based on kitsunes. Though I do have a feeling that is the direction they will take with Fennekin (really its evolutions more than Fennekin itself), but we'll still have to see what happens. ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 00:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Catch-rate info

How come the article says that there's a -1% catch-rate and not 0% like the other two starters? I feel it should be changed to 0% to match the others. Uncle Edit (talk) 01:13, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

German Name

Its German name "Fynx" is very likely based on the English word "lynx". The first letter "F" could be based on "Fuchs" (fox), "Fennek" (fennec) or "Feuer" (fire). Maybe someone can add "lynx" to the German meaning? --Perlgia (talk) 09:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Special abilities

Should be added that "it can radiate heat from it's ears up to temperatures of 200°C" in the Special Abilities section. Also that it "carries it's favourite food around with it to eat as a snack" in a section (Not sure which). ----samm :) (talk) 11:01, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Should be listed underneath the Diet heading. Also, does it list a specific food or does it just state "it carries it's favourite food"? --Reliジーランス? 17:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Twigs

The official site claims Fennekin likes to eat twigs. Could we add that to it's diet section? --Reliジーランス? 15:33, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Moveset

By ★☆Togetic45☆★ 12:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Recently, the pokemon website added more info on pokemon X and pokemon Y. They gave off a picture of the pokemon X and pokemon Y pokemon summary interface. There, a Lv. 5 fennekin can be seen with the moves scratch, tail whit and ember, and another shot of the same thing, except Fennekin is Lv. 11 and it knows howl. Is it worth it to add a learnset? Something like (and this is just me, being lazy and not changing much);

Generation V
Other generations:
VI
 Level   Move   Type   Cat.   Pwr.   Acc.   PP 
055 Scratch Normal Physical 04040 100100% 35
055 Tail Whip Normal Status 0000 100100% 35
055 Ember Fire Physical 04040 100100% 25
0?? Howl Normal Status 0000 100100% 40
  • A level of "Start" indicates a move that will be known by a Fennekin obtained at level 1 in Generation V
  • Bold indicates a move that gets STAB when used by Fennekin
  • Italic indicates a move that gets STAB only when used by an evolution of Fennekin
  • Click on the generation numbers at the top to see level-up moves from other generations


We never add moveset templates until the games have been released, because there are many things we don't know: The movesets may not be final, Howl and even Ember may be TM/Tutor/Egg moves, Scratch and Ember may have different base power/accuracy, we don't know when it learns the first three moves etc. Also, I altered the template because it had redlinks.--Den Zen 12:20, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Oh. Well, ok. Like I said, that was just me being lazy, wanting to get work done before there is any. Thanks for the notice! ★☆Togetic45☆★ 17:02, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Just pointing out that Ember doesn't have to be an egg move to be learned at level 1, it could just be a regular level up move that they breeded on to it to signify it's type. Also, scratch is almost definitely a basic move, since every starter has either Tackle or Scratch as it's starting move. -EVsandIVsaurs 13:37, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
U-huh. Thanks for explaining that to me! ★☆Togetic45☆★ 15:16, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Would someone please explain why|Tail Whip has a power of 50? higejolly (talk) 20:45, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Boom fixed. ★☆Togetic45☆★ 11:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Korean name for Fennekin

Until the page gets unlocked... here's Fennekin's Korean name: 푸호꼬 Puho'kko -- Nick15 (talk) 02:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Took me a little bit, but here's what Puho'kko's name (most likely) comes from:
  • fuoco (Italian for fire; which would be rendered in Korean as 푸오코)
  • ho (狐, fox)
  • 꼬마 kkoma (a tiny thing, small child)
It's sort of a translation of its Japanese name... though not the English word "fox" part (as "fox" would be rendered as 폭스 pok'seu) -- Nick15 (talk) 04:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Red Fox

Fennekin also shares some traits with the red fox. These are the cat-like eyes, white muzzle and cheek fur, and colored tip on it's tail. Link[1]], Link[2]Robbie (talk) 19:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

For the record...

Fennekin's Kalos Pokedex number is probably #4, and its National Pokedex number is probably #653. - unsigned comment from CrazyMagmar (talkcontribs) 23:25, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

This was also mentioned in Chespin's talk page, but with Victini being a rulebreaker, we don't assume those thingsYveltal-is-roosting (talk) 09:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, that was me that time, too. CrazyMagmar (talk) 22:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Pokedex Sprites

If you look closely at the upper right of the image of the Kalos Pokedex you can see a sprite of Fennekin. Maybe a pixel artist could copy this for the places where this sprite is used. (Not complaining or anything, just an idea). --Ziggyangelo88 (talk) 08:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

We generally prefer sprites to be directly ripped from the games, so human error and palette mistakes aren't issues. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

species name trivia

fennekin has the same species name as vulpix and ninetales 0danmaster0 (talk) 14:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Fennekin's ears

Real life fennec foxes feature their characteristic ears as a means to dissipate heat in their hot desert environments. According to information on this very page, Fennekin releases hot flames from these ears. Would it be a fair proposal to add the inspiration from the real life fennec's ears in the 'Origin' section? Chicobo329 (talk) 01:35, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Question

Would it be okay to upload shinies of fennekin and the other X and Y pokemon? kikaypikachu (talk) 08:17, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Thunder

I saw a picture of five Fennekins, and one of them could learn Thunder by TM, but the other four couldn't. Is it fake? -- Pokemon Trainer Bowser Jr. 15:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes...--Den Zen 15:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Category?

Why is Fennekin in the "Pokémon pages lacking disambiguation notices" category? It has a disambiguation notice at the top of the page already.

Meanscreen (talk) 15:56, 4 June 2014 (UTC) Meanscreen