Talk:GB Sounds
Non-GBC Songs?
What happens if you try to use the GB Player in a place were the music didn't exist in GSC, such as the GTS, or in battle against Ho-Oh or Kyogre or something?--Purimpopoie 18:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- It'll play an 8-bit version. I saw a video of someone in the GTS with it. I'll try to find the video.--Mr.lol 18:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwJ8eoXYCk @ 5:50 --Mr.lol 19:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Battle against Ho-Oh is not giving me the GBC-quality music for some reason with the GB Player... I just tested this out on SoulSilver and it's definetly playing the same version. Unless the differences are so subtle that I can't tell. ▫▪Ťïňắ ♫♥ 18:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwJ8eoXYCk @ 5:50 --Mr.lol 19:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Are they actually the original versions?
I heard that the 8-bit music isn't identical to the original Game Boy versions - similar, but apparently the compositions are a little different. Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? Also, does it only change the overworld music, or does the battle music also alter? --Raylax 17:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Battle music changes with the overworld music. I've only seen videos of the thing, though, so I can't tell 100% if it's the same or slightly different-sounding. D: ZestyCactus 21:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Only the background music changes and that applies to everywhere, considering you're playing your adventure, since the title screen and else similar remains with the HGSS versions. As for being rearrangements, I cannot confirm as some tracks sound exactly the same as in GSC. I think that those that sound exactly as the originals but have some slight changes might be due to the differences in the hardware between the GBC and the DS. Also, don't forget that the GBC only had one speaker so the audio was mono, whereas the DS has two, thus providing stereo audio. ;-)
- And the GB Player version of the Dark Cave and Ice Path theme sounds trashy compared to the original. =P Pokemon lover 10:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- The GB Player version of New Bark Town's theme sounds very different to me. --The Great Butler 03:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that the GB Player music is emulated Gameboy Color music thus some songs may not sound exactly alike from the originals. It's especially evident in some tracks. Game Freak still gets huge kudos for the effort anyway.Chicobo329 05:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- According to the booklet in the soundtrack, they recomposed the entire sountrack from scratch with care to emulate the originals. --FabuVinny 01:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that the GB Player music is emulated Gameboy Color music thus some songs may not sound exactly alike from the originals. It's especially evident in some tracks. Game Freak still gets huge kudos for the effort anyway.Chicobo329 05:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- The GB Player version of New Bark Town's theme sounds very different to me. --The Great Butler 03:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Question
Is this a key item? If so, it's not noted at all... ht14 02:59, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, in the disambig line it is. Other than that.... fail. —darklordtrom 03:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Article Name for "GB Player"
Why is the title name of the article still"GB Player"? I thought they named it "GB Sounds" in the English Games.
--Brock*PWN* 14:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Because apparently Serebii.net isn't reliable enough for Bulbapedia. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 14:20, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Patience is of the essence. It's coming out in less than a month, so... yeah. ht14 14:48, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- It isn't without a known source. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 15:02, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- To be honest, I agree with Ht14. We'll have to wait. Serebii is one for making assumptions on things. Tyro 15:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, we wait. While Serebii typically does give reliable info on these things, we can't add it to the wiki because he can't reveal his source. So until something straight from Nintendo (e.g. the games themselves or the HGSS website) confirms them, names are staying where they are. - unsigned comment from AndyPKMN (talk • contribs)
- To be honest, I agree with Ht14. We'll have to wait. Serebii is one for making assumptions on things. Tyro 15:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- It isn't without a known source. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 15:02, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Patience is of the essence. It's coming out in less than a month, so... yeah. ht14 14:48, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Rocket Takeover Theme Glitch
For those of you that, like me, hacked the GB Player to have it since the beginning of the adventure, expect the game to mess up the instructions when you turn it on or off inside the Radio Tower during Team Rocket's takeover. What happens is that the game's code will give instructions to play both the regular and the 8-bit theme simultaneously. This is actually a minor error and is easily fixed by changing floors. ;-) On another note, y'all should obviously remember that you're not supposed to have it that much early so don't complain, please. ポケモンあいこうか 11:29, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
What took you so long?
When HGSS came out (in fact 2 days before they came out) all of the pages about stuff introduced in HGSS were moved from their japanese names to their english names except this article. The only exception is Magnus. The GB Player wasn't changed to GB Sounds until we could edit Bulbapedia again. This is why I gone through all the trouble of creating an account and Email. SeanWheeler 01:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
- ...And it's a problem now... how? The page has been changed, and... now there's no problem of not having the English name. ▫▪Ťïňắ ♫♥ 01:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
- We're not robots. We don't have an instant "find everything that changed names" code. TTEchidna 03:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Explanation
Despite that the GB Sounds is supposed to sound like the original music from the GB/GBC, none of the songs sound exactly like the originals. The acoustics sound different, many notes have different pitches, and other notes in various songs are not even heard at all.
Ok, I'll explain, back in the early 80's, video game music used something called a soudfont (.sf2) which has collection of instruments that early consoles could easily recognize and also used for the sounds you hear in MIDIs. Soundfonts are still used today (mostly by Nintendo games) to make it easier to produce songs. All songs in Pokémon games so far use soundfonts (which of course are downloadable), but in this case HG and SS's GB sounds uses the same soundfont used in Gen I & II, so the GB sounds swaps the soundfont with the Gameboy soundfont. Pgj1997 16:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Black & White
Does it work in these games? There's no mention of this in the article. XVuvuzela2010X 15:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
- I used a save file editor called Pokésav, I used it to get the GB Sounds in Black & White, and it had no function. I could only either give the item to a Pokémon, toss it or leave the item alone. So, no, it doesn't work in these games. It was meant for HGSS, but I have no idea why this list (for Pokémon Black and White) includes it. Bugmenot 22:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- It is probably on the list because it was programmed into the games' data, but not used. (At least, I can't find it.) The list mentions at the end that some items are programmed into the game but are unobtainable, including most Generation IV key items. --Darth Zekrom 22:26, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Ummm...
...Anyone know why the GB Sounds plays the Cianwood City theme in Ecruteak City? Did Ecruteak have the same theme as Cianwood in Generation II? (I wouldn't know; the oldest game I have is Platinum.) KyuremsIceBlade 02:28, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- ...Ok, so it's because Ecruteak and Cianwood had the same theme in G/S/C. Still though, should it at least be noted that Ecruteak got a new theme in HGSS, but the GB Sounds still plays its old theme, which it shares with Cianwood? I mean, it really confused me... but then again I seem to be easily confused... KyuremsIceBlade 21:36, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
"The GB Sounds or simply GB Sounds"
This beginning of the article seems to specify that the item name can be written with or without a "the" in front of it. Is this distinction necessary? Shouldn't just "The GB Sounds" be enough? -- FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:27, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- I'd say "The GB Sounds" is enough, yeah. Landfish7 12:34, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- On a tangentially-related note, I'm also curious why it's described as "a type of key item" (emphasis mine). Perhaps an awkward attempt to avoid addressing an ostensibly plural noun in the singular? It feels like it just introduces another, odder issue, though. Driftin Soul (talk) 12:39, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- Good shout. It may read slightly clunky, but "The GB Sounds is a Key Item," is grammatically valid. Landfish7 12:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- I added that bit a few months ago - it is referred to as "the GB Sounds" in generic pack text but simply "GB Sounds" in specific in-game dialogue. I prefer just formatting it as "GB Sounds", as it seems like this was the intended writing. Both were included in the first sentence in an effort to appease those who felt the other formatting was more appropriate. Simnonym (talk) 14:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how accurate this is, but the way I see it is that having a "the" at the beginning of the article does not necessarily exclude the possibility of the subject from being referred to without a "the". --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:50, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- The 3DS/Switch games have flags for whether item names/etc. use an article in English, and GB Sounds does not need one (though the data is of course unused in practice). The DS games always include the word "the" in the "<player> obtained the <item>!" text, so I don't think too much should be inferred from that. --Abcboy (talk) 18:11, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- If the most recent data we have says that it shouldn't use an article, then I would think we should change the opening to simply "GB Sounds is a key item..." Storm Aurora (talk) 22:13, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- Would that also affect all the other Key Items? Landfish7 22:16, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- If the most recent data we have says that it shouldn't use an article, then I would think we should change the opening to simply "GB Sounds is a key item..." Storm Aurora (talk) 22:13, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- The 3DS/Switch games have flags for whether item names/etc. use an article in English, and GB Sounds does not need one (though the data is of course unused in practice). The DS games always include the word "the" in the "<player> obtained the <item>!" text, so I don't think too much should be inferred from that. --Abcboy (talk) 18:11, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how accurate this is, but the way I see it is that having a "the" at the beginning of the article does not necessarily exclude the possibility of the subject from being referred to without a "the". --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:50, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- I added that bit a few months ago - it is referred to as "the GB Sounds" in generic pack text but simply "GB Sounds" in specific in-game dialogue. I prefer just formatting it as "GB Sounds", as it seems like this was the intended writing. Both were included in the first sentence in an effort to appease those who felt the other formatting was more appropriate. Simnonym (talk) 14:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- Good shout. It may read slightly clunky, but "The GB Sounds is a Key Item," is grammatically valid. Landfish7 12:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- On a tangentially-related note, I'm also curious why it's described as "a type of key item" (emphasis mine). Perhaps an awkward attempt to avoid addressing an ostensibly plural noun in the singular? It feels like it just introduces another, odder issue, though. Driftin Soul (talk) 12:39, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
(resetting indent)As of Legends: Z-A, these are the only items with the "no article" flag set (bolded items don't match our current intros):
- DS Sounds, GB Sounds
- Azelf's Fang, Mesprit's Plume, Uxie's Claw
- Briar's Book
- Kofu's Wallet
- Koraidon's Poké Ball, Miraidon's Poké Ball
- Lida's Things
- Oak's Letter
- Prof's Letter
- Sonia's Book
- Coupon 1–3
- Data Card 01–27
- Gram 1–3
- HM01–07
- Lab Key Card A, B, C
- Legendary Clue 1–3 (but not Legendary Clue?)
- Old Verse 1–20
- TM00, TM001–171
- TR00–99
All of the other items will generally use an article depending on the string. Since X/Y, whether "You obtained a/an <item>!" or "You obtained the <item>!" depends on which message is called by the script, but generally Key Items use "the" while regular items use "a/an" for that text. --Abcboy (talk) 07:09, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- In that case I'd support removing the definite article from those articles, though maybe we should add some sort of note? Landfish7 10:48, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be opposed to removing it from the bolded articles above, if that's how it works in-game. The name of GB Sounds previously being mentioned twice at the beginning of the article just could've been confusing for people who don't necessarily understand the importance of the "the" before the item name. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:53, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, I support removing the definite article from those intros. Aside from GB Sounds, all of these items were introduced in the 3DS/Switch era, so I would think they wouldn't require a note about definite article usage (unless the no article flag was only set after their introduction, I suppose). Storm Aurora (talk) 21:24, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- I've updated the relevant intros except for Prof's Letter. This feature wasn't added until Sw/Sh, and the only line that mentions it in X/Y is the "You obtained the Prof's Letter!" text, so my editorial discretion leans towards keeping it there (versus GB/DS Sounds which both have other text/dialogue that explicitly leaves it off). --Abcboy (talk) 12:18, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- I noticed you hadn't edited it yet, so I actually edited it before you made this post, not aware of why it hadn't been edited yet until now. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:23, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Well, now that that's been sorted, wouldn't "GB Sounds is a Key Item" be phonetically correct rather than "GB Sounds are a Key Item", given that this is referring to the singular item itself and not its output? Simnonym (talk) 17:14, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, that was my thought too. "GB Sounds is a Key Item" was my original suggestion haha Storm Aurora (talk) 20:02, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- The item name is marked as always plural, like DNA Splicers or Go-Goggles. It's the same sort of grammatical issue as saying "scissors is" or "pants is". --Abcboy (talk) 23:02, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Good shout. Landfish7 23:12, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- The item name is marked as always plural, like DNA Splicers or Go-Goggles. It's the same sort of grammatical issue as saying "scissors is" or "pants is". --Abcboy (talk) 23:02, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, that was my thought too. "GB Sounds is a Key Item" was my original suggestion haha Storm Aurora (talk) 20:02, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Well, now that that's been sorted, wouldn't "GB Sounds is a Key Item" be phonetically correct rather than "GB Sounds are a Key Item", given that this is referring to the singular item itself and not its output? Simnonym (talk) 17:14, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- I noticed you hadn't edited it yet, so I actually edited it before you made this post, not aware of why it hadn't been edited yet until now. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:23, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- I've updated the relevant intros except for Prof's Letter. This feature wasn't added until Sw/Sh, and the only line that mentions it in X/Y is the "You obtained the Prof's Letter!" text, so my editorial discretion leans towards keeping it there (versus GB/DS Sounds which both have other text/dialogue that explicitly leaves it off). --Abcboy (talk) 12:18, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, I support removing the definite article from those intros. Aside from GB Sounds, all of these items were introduced in the 3DS/Switch era, so I would think they wouldn't require a note about definite article usage (unless the no article flag was only set after their introduction, I suppose). Storm Aurora (talk) 21:24, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be opposed to removing it from the bolded articles above, if that's how it works in-game. The name of GB Sounds previously being mentioned twice at the beginning of the article just could've been confusing for people who don't necessarily understand the importance of the "the" before the item name. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:53, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
(resetting indent)Makes sense. However, one of the articles edited to plural was "Carbos". Is that word a plural or not? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 23:41, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- It's also in the plural form (specifically, "carbos" refers to "carbohydrates"). Abcboy (talk) 23:46, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Got it, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. I've learned English pretty well over the years, but I still sometimes come across some words or phrases that I need help in understanding properly. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 23:54, 28 May 2026 (UTC)