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Excuse me, but it might be speculation that Caitlin is a member of the Isshu Elite Four. It could be a different Cattleya, ever thought of that? - unsigned comment from Magikarp123193 (talkcontribs)

Whoops, forgot to sign! magikarp123193 19:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
No. In Cynthia's cottage she tells player about Sinnoh Battle Frontier.--でんのう Zえんし 19:17, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, I think she mentions the villa belongs to Caitlin herself, but still, Caitlin mentions that she used to be unable to battle. --Psyライダー 19:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
another tidbit magikarp, why on earth would there be TWO Catteleya's? it makes abosolutely no sense for them to reuese a name of a major character. Ataro 19:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


Is Caitlin the only character in Black and White which spoils that the story of Black and White is going on AFTER DPPt/HGSS? Because if she is, then it could be a bit to the trivia IMO. --Mattii 14:57, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Cynthia and Looker also appear in BW. —darklordtrom 00:25, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't think "spoils" is the correct term. Anyway, Cynthia telling the player about Giratina and the Distortion World and the foreign Team Rocket Grunt from HGSS are the major pieces of evidence showing that BW occurs after DPPtHGSS. --SnorlaxMonster 00:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Related to sleep?

In Pokemon Black and White, she is strangely related to sleeping. All her pokemon during the first match against her are related to sllep. Gothitelle looks like it's wearing a night gown, Ranculus bears a resemblance to a teddy bear, Musharna is almost always asleep and Shinbora looks like a Dream Catcher. She is also first seen in a bed when you face her. absolclaw from youtube noticed this, so i'll give him credit. Is this worthy to be in the Trivia? User:TheBlackPokemonMaster

No...Gothitelle is wearing Gothic Lolita clothing..nothing else. I don't see the Teddy Bear in Reuniclus and Shinbora is based off the Nazca lines..not a Dream Catcher Ataro 21:38, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Reniculus has those small ears around its head. So maybe that's what TheBlackPokemonMaster meant. As for Sigilyph, it looks like a doll or lamp.
It could also look like it resembles those baby toys that hang around the crib that plays music or better yet a wind chime but I guess its ::still too early to make those kinds of assumption. We could wait for the anime series and see if it shows anything that makes them look like those?
Blueknightex 07:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


Is it THAT hard to get quotes, people? Or do we choose to ignore the fact the article is incomplete?--FlareKitsu 13:45, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Whining about it on the talk page doesn't help anyone. If you have quotes, please add them. I want to add them, but I'm not that far in the game yet; I will add the quotes when I get up to it if no one else has, but there is no need to be impatient. --SnorlaxMonster 14:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

14 in Gen 4?

Where does this come from? --Deuxhero 05:22, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a bit of fanon? She certainly doesn't look 14, considering she's as tall as Darach, although it's not out of the question. Aura-Knight 05:28, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
No, it's official Ataro 05:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I believe it came from a magazine (Nintendo Dream IIRC). --SnorlaxMonster 05:53, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

"A minor character in the Battle Castle says hat Darach has feelings for Caitlin "?

Hi, everyone! I saw on the trivia that "A minor character in the Battle Castle mentions that Darach has feelings for Caitlin, but refuses to show these emotions to her. "

Just wondering if she event meant it was Caitlin on the first place? Because on the English version of the game she says "Mr. Darach...Oh, how I pine for thee....". I think she meant that she(herself) cares for him and not Caitlin herself. Like she(who is the maid actually) has a crush on Darach. Not Caitlin? Can someone please clarify this? Thanks :) Blueknightex 07:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

That line is only in HGSS. Platinum has the similar line you refer to. --The Great Butler 07:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
I see. Ok but those 'feelings'..what if they aren't love? What if its anger? because Caitlin often shouts at Darach. Sometimes maybe Darach gets angry at Caitlin but doesn't show it. Well just wondering..Blueknightex 08:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Why won't people here consider Caitlin as a Frontier Brain?

I know a lot of people seem to disagree with calling her a Frontier Brain simply because she doesn't fight. But she still seems to be relevant to the Battle Castle for some reasons. One being that she is still part of Darach's sprite even though she doesn't take part in the battle. The other is that she still appears with Darach on the print that is awarded to the player after beating Darach. If I could find anymore information stating that she is can we put her as Frontier Brain as well? Just asking. Blueknightex 08:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Can we just call her "the head of the Battle Castle" instead? Not the Frontier Brain but the head. Darach takes orders from her right? Well then she's the head. Maybe Darach acts as a Frontier Brain for the facility because Caitlin is unable to battle for her. Makes sense right? So can we just leave it with that? Can anyone here please reply? Blueknightex 12:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
She's the princess of the castle. Darach is her Butler, and basically runs the Battle Castle. Caitlin is still his superior, though. --SnorlaxMonster 12:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
So I guess calling her the head is ok right? She doesn't run the castle but since she's the surperior its alright to call her the head. Blueknightex 11:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Call her what she is: the princess of the castle. --SnorlaxMonster 13:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Trivia Question....

"Caitlin, Lance, Koga and Bruno are the only Elite Four members who have appeared in more than one generation." I'm assuming the latter three are ignoring remakes? Does this need clarification? Ikarishipper900 14:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Appearance links

Has anyone else noticed that the ties in her hair from her Battle Frontier are the floaty things that hold her hair up in her E4 appearance? Not a huge thing, but figured I'd mention it anyways. Soma K. 15:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


Why does the page not have her overworld sprite from the frontier? Or is it impossible to get it?uNsUsPeCtInG fOoL (talk) 22:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Feel free to upload it. That's what a wiki is about, everyone can collaborate. |) u |( e ® 14:20, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Elite Four

"Caitlin is the only Elite Four member who has more than three kana in her name."

Not anymore. - unsigned comment from Poggerius (talkcontribs)

Caitlin's age and her trivia section

I'm kind of curious about where the potential 13-year break between gens IV and V on her age listing came from, where it says that she could be between 17 to 27 years old. Is this sort of drastic jump on any other pages? I remember the age sections for characters introduced in Gen IV or prior but showing up in later generations having their normal age with a plus sign next to it in regards to their post-Gen IV age. Additionally, is it ok if I remove the part of her trivia mentioning that she's one of the only two Elite Four members with a shown in-game home, since the Alolan Elite Four sans Kahili have their homes shown as a result of all Trial Captains and Kahunas having visitable homes, of which three of them are? Azureprism (talk) 05:09, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

The ages come from deductive reasoning based on Sun and Moon. Based on the amount of time Anabel has been in Alola, we know Sun and Moon take place at least 10 years after the events of Emerald (which are contemporanous with the other Generation I and III games). As for the upper boundary, Porygon's Sun Pokédex entry says it was created "about 20 years ago," and since it exists in RBY, this means the gap between RBY and Sun/Moon cannot be more than about 20 years. Therefore, the amount of time between RBY/FRLG/RSE and Sun/Moon must be between 10 and about 20 years, meaning the only unknown spot in the timeline — the gap between Generations IV and V — has about a 10-year range.
As for the trivium, I've removed it. It shouldn't have been on the page in the first place, since our standard is that "one of the only two" is not notable. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 07:11, 4 March 2017 (UTC)