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Name

Does this island have a name? --Maxim 11:48, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it's the Bird Keeper on Route 225 who refers to it as such-- she couldn't have just meant that little area of the route with three trainers. --TTEchidna 17:37, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I know this is a year later, but the sailor who runs the boat between Snowpoint and the Fight Area refers to it as the Battle Zone too.

----HoennMaster 18:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

And a year and a half on another answer comes: a Ranger on route 228 says so too. - unsigned comment from Camzoman (talk • contribs)

Routes colouration

I was wondering why every route in the Battle Zone didn't have the route coloured in/highlighted on the map like all other routes did. - unsigned comment from Blackjack (talk • contribs)

Region

We consider the Battle Zone a subregion of Sinnoh at the moment. Is there any evidence to support this? In the Fight Area, a Battle Girl says "Your Pokémon are from Sinnoh aren't they? They're not what we're used to seeing around here." implying that it is not part of the Sinnoh region. --SnorlaxMonster 05:39, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Russia

Shouldn't the Battle Zone be technically considered the Russia pokemon region because Sakhalin is owned by Russia 実用茶シルバーセージ (talk) 05:09, 10 October 2022 (UTC)実用茶シルバーセージ

Move page to Battle Zone (Sinnoh)

There is an area of Lumiose City called Battle zones in Pokemon Legends Z-A, so I think this page should be moved to Battle Zone (Sinnoh). Even if the capitalization is different, the two could still easily be confused, so I think this page should become a disambiguation page for this page and the Battle zone (Lumiose City) page. Abkwreu (talk) 02:47, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Support. Landfish7 13:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

Actually, want to qualify this. While I agree this page should be moved, I'm not sure if a disambiguation page is ideal. I'd rather "Battle zone" continue to redirect here (as the older, legacy article), with a hatnote leading people to the Z-A battle zones. I could see a case for wanting to change the search to target the newer, more relevant topic though, so I'd be happy to hear what others think. Landfish7 14:09, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

I believe a disambiguation is the way to go here. For the foreseeable future, the Lumiose article would be the one the majority of people would be looking for, while ten years in the future it might be the other way around again.

(Also, I'm wondering: If you believe "Battle Zone" should lead to this article about Sinnoh's Battle Zone anyway, why would you still want to move the article?) Nescientist (talk) 15:39, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Fair point. I wasn't thinking clearly. Landfish7 18:59, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. Because the Battle Zone being part of Sinnoh is fanwank. That's stated nowhere in the games or official material as far as I know. In fact the NPCs treat it as separate from it, and its real world counterpart is part of Russia, not Hokkaido or even Japan. Golden Trainer (talk) 04:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have to correct that. It's confirmed to be part of Sinnoh across official media, as supported by the article's references. Landfish7 05:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

But yeah it is a bit inconsistent. Landfish7 05:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

(resetting indent)To refocus, based on some points made during a discussion in the Discord server, I'm thinking this page should be moved to "Battle Zone (Sinnoh)" and the Lumiose page should be moved to "Battle zone" with a hatnote leading to the Sinnoh page. This puts the focus on the major Z-A mechanic as the primary topic, with this more general article covering various post-game areas still accessible via the link at the top of the page. Landfish7 16:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

On the other hand, "Battle Zone" is mentioned by various NPC characters in BDSP, including when you first arrive on the island (and don't really know what it is - remember, you're initially blocked from going anywhere but the Fight Area, and this is an area that wasn't in the original DP). I imagine a majority of curious BDSP players would search "Battle Zone" here. I doubt it'd be a "visit from elsewhere only" kind of page. Nescientist (talk) 11:06, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Well, and to your point, an additional consideration is that this is the legacy target for this search. So people used to finding this page when searching "Battle Zone" may be a little surprised to have that search suddenly change to a different topic. External links to this page from other sites would also then lead to a different page. These probably aren't major factors—the primary topic should still take precedent, but it seems there isn't a consensus here on which topic that would be, so I could understand not wanting to upset the status quo at this time. Landfish7 20:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken, I believe there is consensus to move this page either way, and we're just discussing whether Battle zone (Lumiose City) should be moved to just "Battle zone" (or whether that should be a disambiguation between the two). Nescientist (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Apologies if I wasn't clear but that is essentially what I was saying, yes. If the Sinnoh page is the primary topic, both pages should stay as-is. If the Lumiose page is the primary topic, then both pages should be moved to reflect that. If both pages are just about equally important, then a disambiguation page, such as we do with Poison, may be necessary. Though I'd still prefer to avoid the final option, if possible, but I understand if it can't be helped. Landfish7 23:56, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Something being a "legacy topic" isn't an argument that holds much water in my opinion. The brand changes and evolves as time goes on, and it's valid to adapt to that. I think if someone who is used to this page being the primary topic suddenly reaches a different topic on this page that includes a hatnote explaining what is going on, any reasonable person would understand and be okay with it. A resonable solution at this time would be to prioritize the recent topic (aka, the one that will have the most relevance with a new game coming out; one that could very well sell more than BDSP), and then re-assess later if that needs to change. ^Maverick_Nate 02:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Right, but I likewise don't feel that relevancy should be much of a factor either. The Lumiose City mechanic would be the primary topic here not because it is recent, relevant, or popular, but because it is a major game mechanic that will be core to a main series title's gameplay, as opposed to the Sinnoh topic, which is a subregion hosting a collection of post-game areas. Landfish7 03:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Relevancy is mostly important as a meta reason because we're a website that covers breaking topics, so we need to have breaking information that people want to read readily available. Not that it's an ideal reason, but that convenience trumps out all consideration as a legacy topic, in my opinion. We want our website to be easy to use, after all.

Another flag in favor of Lumiose City battle zones being the primary topic is that Legends ZA will almost surely sell more copies that BDSP (which only just barely surpassed Legends Arceus), so there will literally be more people in the world encountering the Lumiose City topic than there are people encountering the Sinnoh topic, so we should prioritize that instead. ^Maverick_Nate 03:26, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Sanity check, but now that the game has been out for a bit, do we still think it's sound to move this page to "Battle Zone (Sinnoh)" and move the ZA topic to "Battle zone"? Seems reasonable to me, fwiw. Landfish7 13:00, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Personally im not sure that we should be prioritizing any article. I see 2 options:

• 1: We move this and throw a disambig on "Battle Zone"
• 2: We move the Lumiose one to "Battle zone" (which would be supported since they have different capitalizations) and have hat notes to either going back and forth. This would remove the need for disambigs.

Personally i'd rather have 2 but either is a viable option. I think we have to look at this also from the perspective of "in 5 years, when neither Z-A or Sinnoh are the new games on the block which will be the more sought topic" and I'm not sure thats a distinction we can currently assess. 4iamking 13:18, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

I'm really not sure that the Z-A feature is definitively the primary topic over the Sinnoh location. I think there's a reasonable argument that the two topics are equally relevant (and so this page should be moved and "Battle Zone" should become disambig), but I really don't see the Z-A feature meriting the primary page title.

Personally, I strongly dislike having pages that differ only by capitalization, as it makes navigating to them via search unintuitive (in the sense that it's not obvious to readers which page searching "BATTLE ZONE" would lead to, for example). I would rather just use dabtags than rely on capitalization to distinguish page titles. SnorlaxMonster 13:27, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Also, while "battle zone" is the capitalization used in sentences in Z-A, there are several cases where it ends up being presented as "Battle Zone" due to being in a title case context. And the pop-up text that players are most likely to see presents "BATTLE ZONE" in ALLCAPS. So I don't think it's reasonable to expect readers to know the exact capitalization of the term (even other fansites seem to be erroneously capitalizing the Z-A feature as "Battle Zone"). SnorlaxMonster 13:34, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

If there's no clear primary topic, then "Battle Zone (Sinnoh)" and "Battle zone (Lumiose City)" works, yeah. Landfish7 13:57, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Though I keep forgetting that would necessitate a disambig page, which I still don't love. Landfish7 12:41, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

I don't think there's a need to shy away from disambigs where they make sense. I think if we want to avoid the disambig though, I think we would have to do option 1. (though there are search implications to that which SnorlaxMonster outlined). 4iamking 21:42, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. - theyre inconsistent if this is part of sinnoh or not, sometimes it is abd sometimes it isnt.Roserade57 (talk) 18:43, 4 March 2026 (UTC)