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:::So while most VIZ-licensed manga do refer to their sub-volume divisions as "chapters" (EToP, MPJ, DPA, GRT, the movie adaptations [Volcanion/ICY/Zeraora], Journeys), [[Pokémon Horizon]] used the format "Event 01" and [[Pokémon Ranger the Comic: Double Mission]] used "Episode One". Checking some of the manga VIZ hasn't licensed, [[Pokémon Gotta Catch 'Em All]] used the format ゲット１ (Get 1), [[Pocket Monsters Platinum: Aim to Be Battle King!!]] used the format "BATTLE.1", [[Pokémon - The Legend of the Dragon King]] used the format 第１局 (Game 1 [of shōgi]), and [[Pocket Monsters BW: Good Partners]] used the format "EPISODE 01". So for consistency, if we're going to refer to the ones from Adventures as "adventures" based on the table of contents usage, I think we should also refer to the ones from these series as "events", "episodes", "gets", "battles", "games [of shōgi]", and "episodes", respectively. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 06:16, 1 August 2023 (UTC) | :::So while most VIZ-licensed manga do refer to their sub-volume divisions as "chapters" (EToP, MPJ, DPA, GRT, the movie adaptations [Volcanion/ICY/Zeraora], Journeys), [[Pokémon Horizon]] used the format "Event 01" and [[Pokémon Ranger the Comic: Double Mission]] used "Episode One". Checking some of the manga VIZ hasn't licensed, [[Pokémon Gotta Catch 'Em All]] used the format ゲット１ (Get 1), [[Pocket Monsters Platinum: Aim to Be Battle King!!]] used the format "BATTLE.1", [[Pokémon - The Legend of the Dragon King]] used the format 第１局 (Game 1 [of shōgi]), and [[Pocket Monsters BW: Good Partners]] used the format "EPISODE 01". So for consistency, if we're going to refer to the ones from Adventures as "adventures" based on the table of contents usage, I think we should also refer to the ones from these series as "events", "episodes", "gets", "battles", "games [of shōgi]", and "episodes", respectively. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 06:16, 1 August 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::Sure, I think it's a good idea to be consistent about it. Considering there's so many, it might be a good idea to have some kind of dedicated terminology page for all these different chapter-equivalent terms, so "fifth '''battle''' of [...]" and "ninth '''event''' of [...]" all link to a subheading/table on a dedicated article. Maverick Nate also thought it would be worthwhile to document the history of these terms (like when chapter covers switched from "Chapter" to "Adventure") and we could have that on a page like this too. [[User:Minibug|Minibug]] ([[User talk:Minibug|talk]]) 13:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC) | ::::Sure, I think it's a good idea to be consistent about it. Considering there's so many, it might be a good idea to have some kind of dedicated terminology page for all these different chapter-equivalent terms, so "fifth '''battle''' of [...]" and "ninth '''event''' of [...]" all link to a subheading/table on a dedicated article. Maverick Nate also thought it would be worthwhile to document the history of these terms (like when chapter covers switched from "Chapter" to "Adventure") and we could have that on a page like this too. [[User:Minibug|Minibug]] ([[User talk:Minibug|talk]]) 13:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::Something like "in the previous battle" (or event) seems far too ambiguous IMO. To be honest, I was already leaning towards preferring "chapter" when it was just "adventure"—the examples from other series just reinforce that for me. | |||
:::::There are a few options I can see. | |||
:::::* Just call everything chapters. Maybe "Adventure" and "Get" and everything is just part of the chapter title. | |||
:::::* Do everything we can to ''never'' refer to "chapters" in the abstract. Avoid "fifth chapter", "previous chapter", etc; instead: "Chapter 1 - Title Here" or "Get 1 - Some Title" or whatever. Never is perhaps a strong word, there probably are places where it will be required—but if we ''try'' to take this tack, at least we can narrow down the places where "chapter" or "battle"/etc may present its own problems. | |||
:::::* Call chapters "Adventures", "Gets", "Battles", etc, mimicking their manga...but treat them as proper nouns so that the particularly confusing ones plainly stand out as something "special" and are perhaps less ambiguous. I honestly don't think this is a "great" option itself, because I think throwing in all this jargon will mostly make reading pages confusing for readers. If I read "in the first Get", my immediate question would probably be "what in the world is a Get". Even if I read "in the first Battle", I think I'd just be going, "...why is that capitalized?" And sure, maybe there are ways to address this (sorta), like maybe linking the word. But that doesn't exactly make it not confusing—I'd rather have it not confusing from the start, personally. Overall, I feel like it'd be more readable to just use "chapter". | |||
:::::* Call chapters "adventures", "gets", "battles", etc, mimicking their manga. As I said at the start: I do not think this is a good option, primarily because of the ones like "battle" and "event" (and even "adventure" and "game"). | |||
:::::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:45, 1 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
