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| This is the {{bp|talk page}} for Bulbapedia's {{pkmn|manga}} Project.
| | == Pokémon Adventures overhaul proposal == |
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| ==Previous discussion==
| | '''Problem''': The way we refer to many aspects of the Pokémon Adventures manga does not line up with the way the manga refers to itself, and other aspects of our coverage are lacking. |
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| == Italicised manga titles ==
| | We've been discussing the issue in #project-manga in the Bulbapedia Discord for a while now, and I think we've generally come to agreement on these changes. For the purposes of documentation and expanding the discussion to users that may be wiki only, here's a list of all the ideas we've discussed. |
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| I actually [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Games#Italicised game titles|brought this up recently]] on Project Games' talk page, but I'd like to bring it up here too because it applies to the manga as well. In a formal context (which Bulbapedia is), titles should be italicised, so they should look like ''The Electric Tale of Pikachu'' and ''Pokémon Adventures'' instead of The Electric Tale of Pikachu and Pokémon Adventures respectively. Bulbapedia is so inconsistent with italicisng media titles (all anime titles are italicsed, as well as links to movies, tv shows, and books that are mentioned in trivia sections of various pages, but our games and manga-related titles aren't) and I'm trying to bring out consistency across the wiki. '''<span style="color:#F85888;">—<small>★</small></span>[[User:Reshii|<span style="color:#EE99AC;">レシイラム</span>]]'''<sup>'''[[User talk:Reshii|<span style="color:#F16A81;">talk</span>]]'''</sup> 07:07, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
| | '''Proposed ideas''': |
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| == Pokémon Adventures Moves, Items and Places ==
| | 1. '''Changing all references of "round" to "adventure"''' |
| | : I'm not sure where the term "round" comes from, but it doesn't seem to be official, and the official English translation from VIZ doesn't use it at all. There's currently 60 full volumes released in English, and the table of contents exclusively refers to all "rounds" as "adventures". Up until [[Pokémon Adventures volume 23|Volume 23]], the actual chapter cover refers to "rounds" as "chapters", but starting with [[PS268]], the chapter covers also switch to using "adventure" exclusively. |
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| I was browsing through the website the other day, and thought to myself "I should start adding all the Items, Places and Pokémon Moves present in each of the chapters.
| | 2. '''Modifying the way we refer to [[Chapter (Adventures)|chapters]]''' |
| | : Right now, we refer to chapters (story arcs) in the format "''Red, Green & Blue'' chapter" or "''Yellow'' chapter", but again, the actual manga doesn't refer to itself this way. The actual manga uses the chapter numbering scheme alongside each chapter name, so I propose we change these pages to the format of ''The First Chapter: Red, Green & Blue'', ''The Second Chapter: Yellow'', etc. |
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| I did, but then it got removed (which I totally understand why). | | 3. '''Adding a navigation template to the page for each adventure, and removing the navigation elements from the infobox''' |
| | : Right now, our links to the previous/next "round" are in the infobox, I propose we should add a navigation template to each page to help keep consistency with other types of pages that use navigation templates, like episodes of the anime. I already have this drafted up in [[User:Minibug/Template:AdventurePrevNext]]. |
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| So here I am, officially asking:
| | 4. '''Standardizing head images to use the entire chapter cover page when applicable, and the page immediately after the chapter cover otherwise''' |
| | | : Right now, we have essentially no consistent choice of head image for "round" articles. Sometimes it appears to be the panel on the chapter cover that contains the "round" name, but most of the time it seems to be a panel chosen at random. I think we should standardize this as follows: |
| Does anyone approves the idea of adding these things to the manga chapters? [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 08:07, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
| | # Take the entire chapter cover page, and white out the dialogue, and use that as the head image. After removing the navigation elements from the infobox, the infobox actually stays just about the same size vertically, even when using an entire page as the head image. |
| :I think moves might be neat. Places too, but arguably that's already taken care of in the infobox in the top-right of the page.
| | # Some volumes have chapter covers that use the same image over and over as a template, only changing the "round" name and number. To avoid uploading dozens of copies of functionally the same image, in this case we should use the first page directly after the chapter cover as the head image, again whiting out dialogue bubbles. |
| :Items...just seems pretty trivial to me. But IDK, maybe it could be alright too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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| ::Here's my personnal point of view on every type of content (please don't take my word too seriously, I am very unexperimented here):
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| :::They are most of the time specified when a trainer ask his Pokémon to do so. Sometimes, when a wild Pokémon is fighting, no moves are announced.
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| :::For example: in Pokémon Adventures Volume 1 Chapter 1 (PS001), a wild Mew attacks and damages Red's Poliwhirl. I had to go through all of Mew's moves, I,ve come to the conclusion that only Psychic could be the one since it's the only Gen 1 (Red's time) that deals damage. Is it too far-fetched in assumption? If yes, what should we do? Mention that it's most-lileky an electric move due to the sparks or not mention anything? After all, the Pokémon did attack.
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| :::They are in fact trivial, but picture this, you are looking at a random chapter, in this very same chapter you see that a Master Ball was used (or shown). This can be a major information. (just my opinion)
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| :::Maybe it would be better to mention the chapter in the item's pages maybe? I don't know.
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| ::*Places:
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| :::The main place of the chapter is written in the infobox, that's true, but there's often more that only one place. Pokémon Adventures Volume 1 Chapter 1 (PS001) takes place in Pallet Town, but also in the forest around it, which is cannonly mentionned in the manga itself.
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| ::Anyway, these were my thoughts on the subject. Let me know what you guys think. :) [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 08:32, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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| == Adventures' character ages. ==
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| I think we should add ages from past chapters, like we show ages from past games. | |
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| For example, Red's page would show:
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| 11 (as of [[List of rounds in the first chapter of Pokémon Adventures|the first chapter]])<br>13 (as of [[List of rounds in the second chapter of Pokémon Adventures|the second chapter]])<br>14 (as of [[List of rounds in the third chapter of Pokémon Adventures|the third chapter]])<br>16 (as of [[List of rounds in the fifth chapter of Pokémon Adventures|the fifth]] and [[List of rounds in the sixth chapter of Pokémon Adventures|the sixth chapter]])<br>20 (as of [[List of rounds in the thirteenth chapter of Pokémon Adventures|the thirteenth chapter]])
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| [[User:Ultra Ray|Ultra Ray]] ([[User talk:Ultra Ray|talk]]) 11:19, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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